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Lynn Lewandowski's avatar

I'll bet it the food, Dr Nass. I'm guessing many of other countries do not use any processed foods in their restaurants or in their homes. What do you think?

Meryl Nass's avatar

The Spanish eat lots of pastry and coffees. Even though thye grow beautiful vegetables and fruits, they seem to eat less of them. The pigs eat acorns, are brined, no chemicals, and Spanish pork is alleged to be the best in the world. They eat very little beef, lamb. Pig carcasses hang in most of the cafes and don't go bad.

NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Friend of mine in Seville had a TINY apartment back in the 90s

He was a shoemaker living in the gypsy neighborhood - one of his siblings married a gypsy - but what stands out from his apartment was a pig leg hanging in the tiny kitchen.

frankly's avatar

Would the brine be a source of Iodine? Read a book about longevity. Mountains, not a lot of money, making your own wine.

Odd in the US we equate plenty with success, being able to afford health care is not always a good thing!

aj's avatar

Just watched a brief video of how fast a head of grocery store cauliflower would go bad, next to one from an organic farm. The standard one was completely consumed by mold while the organic one only had some discoloration from drying.

Sam's avatar

Sounds very yummy...

JoanBalone's avatar

I think the Spanish life expectancy mimics much of the European countries which revere mealtime and using fresh ingredients to make each meal (other than breakfast which is almost always bread/pastry, butter, coffee). I’ve lived in France and traveled there extensively and every meal is curated. And talk about healthy habits…they walk everywhere and get plenty of sunshine. It’s a different lifestyle. They’re not fast food junkies. I will say it has changed over the past 40 years, but not drastically. I even found Croatia to be a super healthy country, not accepting most processed food exports from the U.S…smart!

Sam's avatar

I used to live in France, the processed food aisle in the supermarket was one or two shelves! Now I live in the USA and it's most of the shop that is taken up by processed foods!

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

But never blame the mass jabbing kids with "safe & effective" aluminum mercury and other toxic additives! Because Pharma makes money treating that harm! Businesses need advertising money, and don't forget our beloved politicians need$!

Mackinac's avatar

I lived in Europe for 4 years. I suspect food is a substantial difference.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

The basic issue in my view is that more Americans have compromised immune systems than other countries due to nutrient deficiencies and the chronic ingestion of some of the 10,000 chemicals found in our food supply deemed GRAS, most of which are not. So, when GOF Covid 19 hit, followed by mRNA injections, a higher percentage of Americans succumbed to the preplanned bio warfare operation. Low Vitamin D blood value in my opinion would have been a marker, if they would have tested the concept. Of course, we ignore the role of a vibrant immune system to ward off all pathogens. If we did we would dampen the bottom line of Big medicine.

TDoug's avatar

Our medical system is a fraud and people are eating too much garbage processed foods.

David O'Halloran's avatar

Healthy people need no ''care''. The term "healthcare" is contradiction in terms. Leave the healthy alone, doctors have no business bothering them. We need care if we are sick and in most cases the best care is rest, comfort and freedom from stress. This allows our body to heal itself which it is excellent at doing. The wild life on our mountain is healthy is everyway. No drugs. No doctors. No "healthcare". The Spanish are a wise old people; not so easily persuaded by drug pusher's propaganda. The USA must be the most drug addicted land on earth, hence all the poor health. Vaccine uptake rates, no doubt, were massaged for political expediency in lands where the propaganda to take drugs was less. I doubt the uptake rate was even above 50%, if that. In Mexico it seemed below that and friends of mine who did take it only did so to travel and never took it four times. The feeling down here was different; covid vaccines were seen as just another gringo fad, best avoided.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

@David: No Drugs, No doctors, means No Money! I.e. why for-profit medicine dumped that no-profit, god based, "First do no harm" ideology for a more profitable Satan based, "First do harm," by injecting aluminum, mercury & other toxic additives into kids to raise that once 1 in 40,000 kids with disorders to our now, [using forced Rockefeller jab medicine,] to a more profitable 1 in 36 kids with disorders needing pharma's medicine! It's all to teach us about death being the wages of sin, and what Satan's Hell is going to be like!

David O'Halloran's avatar

Indeed. "First do harm". Then get the contract to continue poisoning/profiting for a life time, until death time, and then profit some more. That is certainly as good a definition of satanic as I have heard. We need an almost total rejection of modern science based medicine and a self help revolution. Our mantra and rallying cry must be " Protect Your Health - Don't Take Drugs". Repeat ten million times.

Jan Barendrecht's avatar

Having lived in Spain (Canary Islands) for about 15 years, fruits and veggies were prominent even in supermarkets. For instance when cherry season started, you had to wait for your turn as everyone wanted to buy some.

Initially (early 1990s) people there were slim, good-looking and strong but WEF & WHO tyranny plus introduction of hyper-processed industrial crap caused the population to become obese, more diseased (and ugly). While the situation still is much better than in the US, it isn't what it used to be.

Production of healthy food crops should be number 1 priority for every country if just because sick people aren't very motivated "to do their best". It's well understood in China where food production already is AI-supported (in case some are wondering, "whence the meteoric rise in Chinese science & technology?").

SteelJ's avatar

Thanks for the first-person take. It's a shame people have gotten so much uglier. We're lucky to be motivated to stay fit and healthy, and smart enough to recognize the BS as soon as it appears - like avoid the sun, avoid eggs, eat PUFAs not sat-fats, avoid red meat, take your meds especially flu and COVID shots. People are so dumb to fall for the propaganda and think the liars care a lick about them. My wife's 69 and still looks like a goddess, especially in cutoffs. People like her shouldn't be rare, but they are. That's a big loss.

Jan Barendrecht's avatar

In the West, disease has become a business model, as witnessed by the amount of people with chronic disease (over 50%). Traditional diets developed over time, depending on climate, soil etc. and generally provide enough nutrients to stay healthy and enjoy many productive years. While genetics play a role, early tests can indicate a personal priority so everyone can stay healthy.

But you'll know too that wisdom comes with age, and as a rule, not in the interest of an oligarchy. So in the West the elderly (WEF) "should die when over 60" whereas in China they're treated well and can continue to contribute to society. It's what Western regimes don't want their populations to know.

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Robots play growing role in elderly care

With a rapidly aging population, technology is being used to make up for shortfall in resources

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202504/01/WS67eb3937a3101d4e4dc2bf25.html

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SteelJ's avatar

I'm not sure how important the depletion of nutrients in farmland is, as far as reducing uptake of vital nutrients into our food. But it might be very important. Modern cultivars which maximize yield and shelf life are supposedly less nutritious. We source over half our food ourselves, hunting, fishing, growing, and gathering. We know that's food as is should be. We even get our drinking water at the spring where it comes out of the ground. Unfortunately our way isn't practical for most, and most aren't interested in all that anyway. For those who can and will, probably a good idea though.

Jan Barendrecht's avatar

Depletion of farmland is a major issue, and already on the agenda ~1970s in China. The idea was to use humanure as a way of recycling. It failed because back then, humanure contained so many "medicines" that the food crops developed tumors (!). Chemical fertilizers aren't a solution because they destroy "soil life" which results in the need to apply more chemicals. At least one has to supply what's taken in the form of harvest, and in a way that supports "soil life". Partial solutions were to add trace elements to chemical fertilizer. During my youth it was custom to rotate crops, some of which improving the soil (lupin, nitrogen) as a way to slow down depletion.

A mark of nutritious crop is the taste and lack of it is caused by depleted farmland. I remember a holiday in Dubrovnik, visiting the market and being tempted to buy red (ripe) bell peppers. They were very sweet to the extent that it defined as "snack" so I ate many, while the farmer who sold them was laughing, thumbs up. The difference with the crap sold back home as "bell peppers" couldn't be more hence I didn't forget.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

Dr Weston Price's [D.D.S.] book told of remote islanders in the 20's with perfect health & teeth! But their offspring coming home to reunions after 20 + years of Western diet, were fat, in ill health & with ugly, misshapen teeth!

Jan Barendrecht's avatar

If only I had known about Dr. Price's pioneer work 60 years ago ;-)

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

I read about him 50 years ago, the book Your Doctor is a Liar, tell you how to decode insert packet disclaimer warnings that your doctor will never tell you about. But just know that our 50 billion pharma cartel also lies & is, a or the leader in cause of death & harm!

Jan Barendrecht's avatar

When I discovered that under proper conditions, teeth were self-healing, my teeth already were close to or beyond repair (drilling, mercury). The required food and evt. supplements were unavailable, and (of course) dentists would not cooperate. I wouldn't be surprised if the net effect of "big pharma gang" is more deaths and suffering than there would be without it: people then would have no choice but to prioritize healthy lifestyle and food.

joe jacovino's avatar

we are what we eat ! my own health kick started over 50 yrs ago , hearing a dr on tv saying that sugar is worse for you than cocaine , had never heard anything prior to that but "sugar and spice and everything nice" ...

Goeff's avatar

So that explains my attitude. I've long been eating nettles and can't wait for some fresh ones!

frankly's avatar

We are so far from this, but a lofty goal. Only pay our physicians when we are healthy. Forget which country had that.

Suddenly our health would be top of agenda.

Bottom line for me? Until we understand and control psychopaths no one is safe or free. Their mission statement seems simple enough.

Turn everything into a profitable weapon.

Thomas J. Piccone's avatar

More people died in the U.S.A. in hospitals "with COVID" because the government recommended protocols that killed, and the Congress passed laws giving increasing reimbursements for worse outcomes: money for positive COVID "tests" (with or without symptoms), more money for hospital admission, still more money for giving remdesivir, yet more money for intubation, and the most money if the patient died. Hospitals were strongly incentivized to kill, government recommended the kill protocols, and the hospitals followed the protocols and killed. It was done so efficiently and legally, just like totalitarian regimes in the past have murdered people. It was all based on lies and was very profitable.

Steve  Mitzner's avatar

Dee the book, What the Nurses Saw: An Investigation Into Systemic Medical Murders That Took Place in Hospitals During the COVID Panic and the Nurses Who Fought Back! As you will learn from the eye-witness accounts and technical information presented in this book, calling the failed COVID protocols “errors” is not accurate.

What The Nurses Saw — It was Murder.

Thomas J. Piccone's avatar

Thank you for the recommendation. I already have the book and read it. Hopefully, others will get it and read it also.

Karen Bracken's avatar

Could it be that Spain spent less per person because their costs are lower. I know in Costa Rica for example you can get XRays, blood tests and most other medical care far cheaper than what Americans are charged. Higher income levels will breed higher charges. They charge what the market will bare. Life expectancy is probably due to better quality food as is the case in most of Europe but this too is declining from a health official I recently heard in an interview talk about the decline in pure food v. processed food. And in the European countries I have visited they surely have a much layed back lifestyle. They open their shops when they feel like it, close when they feel like it and take very long afternoon breaks. And have a lot of vacation time.

SteelJ's avatar

Median income would be a better number for this topic than per capita GDP, which is skewed much more toward the top 1% in the US, I'd wager. Even median income is misleading, actual buying power is what matters. What the average person needs and wants is probably cheaper in US dollars in Spain.

Meryl Nass's avatar

When I was in Spain for 3 months in 2017, food in the markets and shops cost half what it does here. I bought a bottle of shoe polish and it was 1 euro--over here about $5-6. I have gone to Europe on and off since 1969 (in those days I hitchhiked) and things used to be more expensive than in the US. Now things are cheaper in Europe. Profit margins are likely higher in the US.

Martin's avatar

Excellent article, it is my experience that most useful scientific advances come from basic observation of simple examples of truth and error, such as this.

Marlene Mc's avatar

Besides these obvious differences I wonder if the level of toxicity in the US shots exceeded those of Europe?

KP Stoller's avatar

Medical Care in Post Collapse America.... for your reading entertainment:

https://primerascientific.com/pdf/pssrp/PSSRP-04-145.pdf

Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

scAmerica is a terrorist state.

We support Isra Hell , another terrorist we hang out with. To the great shame of any jewish man.

American health care means terror.

It means having your sex cut off.

I am thoroughly traumatized by the scamdemic since 3/2020,

But before that my mom was killed by the doctators over the course of decades....she left the evidence of literally hundreds of pills bottles. Her small apartment looked like an empty pharmacy stockroom of pill bottles of plastic shade.

I am convinced what they mean when they say health care is killing as many as they can.

Worst of all. Although peripheral, I am forced to do the dealings of these killers just to collect a Paycheck, to keep my poor housemate in a home....

Of course this December one of their checks bounced and I was frozen out from the sffcu and had to bank elsewhere now.

They say twas my fault for cursing....

I noticed one of their former employees works at the bank I had to move to now, good riddance to all the terrorists and their terrorist institutions, none more killer sic than health care, should be called health Scare

Joe Rodriguez's avatar

The food, the sun, the air, the water and beaches, the childhood friendships that last a lifetime. All those things do not require a huge income and yet give you a good quality of life. I traded most of those things for the safety of a large income for many years living abroad, and now I'm kicking myself. Good thing I kept the friends and can't wait to retire back to my homies