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Skupe's avatar

I have been commenting about this for the past few weeks! I think Elon Musk and the President should hit the health insurance companies for huge amounts of fraud for doing this and pHARMa too!

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Meryl Nass's avatar

I think it comes from CMS (Medicare)to the QIOs ("quality" organizations set up to interface with hospitals and keep Medicare at arms' length) who have specified vaccinations as quality measures.

The insurance companies feel obliged to exert control, nd this is an easy metric to follow. They did this to me back in 1999 when I opened a private practice. Been going on a long time. They withhold a few percent of your reimbursements when you don't do what they want to enough patients.

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Steve  Mitzner's avatar

The pharma cartel has already paid over 50 to 60 billion in fraud fines to stay in business! BUT without jail time for the fraudulent leading cause of death [and Murder] as the book, What The Nurses Saw, documented! Granting fraudulent pharma power to kill and not be sued is why pharma medicine is now killing *684.9 to *2191/ iatrogenic deaths each day in the USA! No other business could get awaw with that, could they? (See: *Johns Hopkins [low-ball] Iatrogenic study, claiming patent medicine only kills 250,000 a year [who knows how much harm?] The more accurate book, *Death By Medicine, by Dr. Null he has it at 800,000 annual iatrogenic deaths!

I think it's all to teach us, "Death is the wages of sin...."

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Truth Seeker's avatar

more accurately The Wages of Sin... is Death

Iatrogenesis is an interesting word. It is deliberate obfusation as most have no idea as to its meaning. G Null has been a truth teller for at least 35 years, his radio show has exposed the criminals consistently...

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Steve  Mitzner's avatar

Iatrogenesis just means physician or doctor caused! Iatros [Latin for Doctor] Genesis as in generate or beginning As in the book of Genesis! The reason medicine and law use a dead language is definitions [like boy & girl] don't change! I.e., anti-obfuscation."

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Truth Seeker's avatar

I know, happen to be one...

but not an allopath

The word doctor also means teacher.

Latin pre and suffix's are very useful.

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Skupe's avatar

It's hard to teach nutrition when the doctor doesn't know about it! That's even more important than medicine IMHO! If people learn about and follow good nutrition, they rarely need drugs!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

very interesting, and actually much worse

Medical Doctors historically had a HUGE bias against any and all nutritional or herbal therapeutic in fact were trained to call it quackery.

In any case it is possible to use that high level of education to learn basic nutrition very quickly. It was easy even as an undergrad.

However understanding what to use, who is a candidate, and when to employ requires much experience, that is why one opens a "practice"

After a few decades knowledge accumulates especially when combined with interest to include the expertise of hundreds of other qualified professionals.

Pharmaceuticals clearly have their place, however as you mention it is rare. It is best to have a handful of them around from emergencies.

Better yet if they are never used.

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Skupe's avatar

I totally agree with you! Then all these jacks need to be jailed for the rest of their lives or killed like they tried to do to all of us with C19! Gary Null is always correct on his iatrogenic numbers.

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Dee's avatar

As time drags on more and more we can/will see what side Trump and Kennedy really are on.

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R. Elliott's avatar

Bobby just said in Cabinet Meeting that by September, we should know what causes autism.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

are you serioius??? There is no single cause for Autistic Spectral Disorder

however it has been 100% evident for anyone remotely capable of reasoning and comprehension that the vaxs now quaxs (mRNA) are front row and center.

That was not news 25 YEARS AGO!!!!!!!!

However let us not forget Fluoride decreasing IQ by about 20 points where it has been added to the public water supply with the blessings of the Dental Cartel

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Truth Seeker's avatar

except that time is not dragging on.

More has been accomplished in the first 10 weeks of this Presidency than in the past several administrations. If you wink, you will be behind on the latest

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Truth Seeker's avatar

everyone is entitled to think whatever they choose however there are those who know a million times more... and you mentioned two of them

The fraud is being exposed at lightning speed at levels far north...

Do not ever think the fake news echo chamber will report

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Skupe's avatar

Never listen to fake news because of this and I mute these portions of podcasts that feature nonsensical fake news BS!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The % of us that know this to be true has never been higher

One day the normies will turn on their daily dose of programming to see a black fuzzy screen. That day comes not soon enough.

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denise ward's avatar

It's not really lightening speed because we've known this for a couple of decades and still the cover up continues and who knows how long before it is covered by the mainstream lying news.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

It is lightening speed and faster. That is simply because this

administration has been at the helm a couple of months and

"normies" would not hear it earlier. The fake news echo chamber

will NEVER report. Waiting for that to happen is foolish.

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Toddy's avatar

Yes. Being exposed. But what about justice and judgement? I pray its soon and complete. Regardless, if caught and charged now. Or not. Sooner or later, they will be judged from God, in His time.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

as you point out expecting justice to occur in a timely fashion just does not seem to be tenable, life is not fair

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Kurt's avatar

Pay-per-jab financial incentives must be banned. Outright. That blinds the doctor’s medical judgment.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

sort of / that allows the Medical Deities another get out of jail free pass for genocide.

Already in international courts it have been ruled that MD's HAVE LIABILITY

for administering the quaxs. Stateside fed courts have repaid those fired for refusing.

Once the legal cartel secures a judgement against a private company the lawyers will

clamor to get the cases that will be innumeral. That will cause massive bankrupcies.

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David O'Halloran's avatar

This is a travesty of medicine - doctors should "get paid" based on how many sick people they cure, not how many drugs they push. Least of all how many drugs they push on the healthy. That this can be considered acceptable is a testament to the corruption of much modern western science based medicine by money blinded, unethical, often criminal, drug makers and assorted for profit enablers and propagandist. Vaccination is medical barbarism. The only good vaccine is no vaccine.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Once a jab injures you, they gaslight, deny and neglect you. And it keeps the huge autistic population at higher & higher levels every year. Ironically I got injured while working for an autistic kindergarten class in Guilderland New York. Back then it was one in 148 children diagnosed with autism spectrum in 2001. We thought that was terrifyingly high numbers. Today it’s one in 38 children diagnosed.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

and the false belief was???

that health comes from needles or... that it won't cause harm

A greater lie never told...

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David O'Halloran's avatar

1. They push drugs the healthy to prevent bad things in the future and "protect others" - makes taking their useless dangerous drugs sound somehow our duty. 2. We get injured 3. They deny it was their drugs. 4. We can't prove it was. What can we do? Never take any drug, if we are healthy. If we do, only a old tried and tested drug that we know about and then only for a specific thing like pain killing at the dentist or for a cut or broken bone. Tell all we love and any who love us not to take drugs if healthy. Stress that for healthy people the risks are not worth any alleged benefit some single drug might provide for some single risk - there are a million risks - we can't take "vaccines" for them all. Only elect to office openly anti drug taking politicians. Stop drug companies giving money to regulators, universities, legislators and influences. Stop advertising drugs on TV. Sorry for your injury and its cowardly denial.

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denise ward's avatar

It really is up to us to inform the ones we care about to not take drugs or vaccines. It's up to us to do everything. That is reality, government is illusion.

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David O'Halloran's avatar

I agree with you. We homeschooled most of the way to university. We did not vaccinate. We did not take our kids to doctors. We did not follow standard state pushed curriculums. We taught our children to be independent minded, brave, honest, forthright, bold, kind, trusting in family, scornful of lies, open minded, ever questioning. It has always been up to us and even more now. Now we have to fight to get the truth we know ( vaccines are poison and a medical barbarism) out to more and more brainwashed victims of state backed drug pushing rackets backed up by he false religion of science.

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denise ward's avatar

Much honor to you. I think it would be good to have a database of people who refused corporate medicine so that we could for one, see the numbers and two, be a reference to how much healthier the children grow up. Thank you for taking the effort to do that for your children. You deserve a medal!

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David O'Halloran's avatar

Thanks - very kind of you to say so - the Amish people serve as a good example of a group who grow up without drugs or much state propaganda. I agree that a comparison of children who did not take drugs compared with those who did would be very revealing. Our second son is a world class ballet dancer and our first daughter almost made national standard in figure skating. Our three children are too busy enjoying life and doing things to be worried about getting sick or taking any risky drugs to "prevent" things that haven't happened. Copy wild life. Stay drug free. Good luck.

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Toddy's avatar

Pretty close to proving it if you just find out how many doctors give vaccines to their kids.

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denise ward's avatar

That would be a very interesting inquiry. RFK says he gave his children the vaccines but I wonder if he's lying. If he's telling the truth then he's a dumb ass who didn't do his due diligence and sentenced his own children based on ideology alone.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

yes of course, however it requires people who comprehend little about health

to comply... Where to point the finger. Am making the case that two fingers are necessary...

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Truth Seeker's avatar

It is hardly science, it is pay to play fraud posing as "science"

the false belief that the clueless bought is that health comes from a needle.

Yes those that "took" the vaxs and quaxs are that clueless.

Other descriptors fit as well.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Doctators still be killing folks for a small fee with small minds and small needles, the scamdemic Harmacide never stopped despite ScKamala Harris lost, but the guy in there now seems happy to kill us all too, like she would have could she get the chance

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Steve  Mitzner's avatar

But what should one expect in Satan's world, honesty and fair play? Or a 50 billion in fraud fines and leading cause of death/ Big Pharma's "medicine"? Don't you know that "Death is the wages of sin." And what better demonstrates that than Big Pharma "medicine's" death count? God protect us from the evils of Big Pharma! Amen.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Yes, apparently Divine intervention gave us Trump 2, but he seems to have forgot God already

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Steve  Mitzner's avatar

Yes young Grasshopper; IF you can put your trust in God, Jesus, he is all the intervention you need, in this short life & the next Long one! I can remember how my hero, Republican, Ronald Reagan, stole our Creator-inspired, 1st Amd. Right to sue, and gave a license to kill & not be sued, allowing forced, toxic, immune-destroying jabs, to promote more sickness, for evil pharma to sell drugs to! I.e. so don't put to much trust in politicians, put it in God Jesus, he allowed himself to be tortured to death just to save You & me! I.e. something no politittion would ever do!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

completely inaccurate assessment

He did not forget what you never knew

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Yes Grasshopper. However the small fee is not so small. A woman pediatrician disclosed that her Pfizer income for vaxxing 6000 patients during the fraudulant Covidiocy days

would have be 1.5 mil. We need to Pay Attention and accurately assess.

The guy in there is a team of patriots playing the long game and expertly.

Camel Hair did not loose, the election theft could not possible overcome DJT's landslide

think "too big to rig"

The team is exposing the criminals in expert fashion. Hang on

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Honey Bee's avatar

This world is in a sad state. Almost everyone I know got the jab. One friend died from it. I miss how life used to be.

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MBP's avatar

Except that many more people are now aware of vaccine harms and ruthless big Pharma.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

It is sad you know so many normies. These individuals know zilch about health.

That is the fundamental problem. The only remedy is to begin learning.

If you know of only one death that is rather amazing...

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bagel with a schmear's avatar

I was just thinking the exact same thing!

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Irunthis1's avatar

Yeah my last “doctor” got nasty with me bc I said no to every single thing on the list above and finally spat out well why do you even come here? I said well I will remedy that right now and immediately took myself off of the last RX drug I was currently taking (the “reason” I was there to start with). I’ve not noticed its lack and haven’t seen a regular doctor since. The next open season I bought the cheapest high deductible (basically catastrophic) health insurance available to me thru my job saving myself at least $7,000 a year in premiums. I’m done with all of it.

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David O'Halloran's avatar

Me too. I never liked buying insurance and being healthy why would I wish to. The quickest way to ruin your health is go to a doctor and take his noxious potions. Twas ever thus.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

so your "doctor" was a really poor choice

Just say NO and find a health advisor

Now that you are done with the grift, spread the word as you are doing

and FIND the right advice. When the student is ready the teacher appears...

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TruthAndLight's avatar

Yes, doctors MUST be held accountable and go to jail

For pushing this!! They get more money when their patients are 70 percent vaxed I read in new book “Americas Soul Under SiEge; the implosion of the middle class” by L Cohen. It has the details about all this and an easy to understand brilliant book

Every American and every Patriot should have a copy!!! Hope is found in the last brilliant chapter.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The Medical Cartel must be disbanded...

There are and have been thousands of books

not to diminish the one you advocate.

Americans must actually learn something about health,

most know precious little. There is no way to circumvent

Knowledge on the way to Wisdom...

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Denise's avatar

This is directly contributing to HARM on these babies! Why isn’t this practice of numbers of vaccines given equals big checks from government banned yet? This needs to happen ASAP! The pediatricians ARE doing HARM to our children! Shame on all pediatricians pushing vaccines! Shame on you all! All these kids having to grow up with brain damage & on the autism spectrum. Shame on them all! They took an Oath! First, Do No Harm! We shouldn’t need a law banning this practice because decent human beings & pediatricians no less should police themselves! They know damn well they’re causing harm. I can’t wait for this practice to be banned. 😡

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Crixcyon's avatar

What? Did you actually believe it was going to change? The ONLY way to get Pig Pharma to give up the vaccine ghost is to rescind the 1986 vaccine laws and no one in the HHS or congress has the spine to even discuss it. That idea is surrounded by kryptonite and is sacrosanct.

Pig Pharma is still going to push for 100 childhood injections by the age of 18 by 2030. Who has the balls in this country to stop them? Even question them? Prosecute them for mRNA murders?

Prove that ALL vaccines are poisons and useless? Prove that all drugs are poisons?

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David O'Halloran's avatar

We have stopped all my immediate family taking vaccines. We did it by repeating the news from the medical freedom leaders to them daily for the last twenty years. They are pretty sick of hearing about it of course but a heck of lot less sick than they would be if they had taken the poison. We have used every last penny of their trust in us on this one issue. I told them, kids do anything you like but please DON'T take any vaccines. I believe vaccines are the single greatest threat they face.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is the definition of long suffering

Now with 20 million dead world wide increasing daily those family members have heard this information from countless sources, something they will not admit.

Unfortunately damage has already occurred. Mitigating that damage is one way to pursue health. If they choose to ignore this choice its on them.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

there is another way

If enough people just say NO, they will go bankrupt

Hoping to legislate human behviour cannot and will not work.

Removing assumed liabilty shields is already in the crosshairs.

Fraud vitiates contracts. Therefor when some high powered mouthpiece succeeds at proving Big P knew ( the evidence is huge) the liablity waivers cease to exist

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sifubernie's avatar

This is a crime against humanity

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Leslie's avatar

AMA, the Insurance Companies, are not your friends.

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bagel with a schmear's avatar

Thank you. Unreal. They traumatized 5 innocent kids FOR LIFE. What a world...

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bagel with a schmear's avatar

This is a story that needs to go viral.

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Gaye's avatar

The brakes on the gravy train 🚂 are ALWAYS stiff!

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Jewell's avatar

Insurance companies have access to all the medical info on their subscribers, regardless if they reimburse for expenses. As such they no doubt run all sorts of statistics on outcomes from drugs and vaccines from effectiveness to adverse events. They have to know the truth on vaccines and statins and these other questionable treatments. One would think their logical goal would be to have healthy subscribers and endorse effective treatments so they could provide lower rates than competitors. They act just the opposite. If auto insurance companies, instead of rewarding good drivers with clean records, had some sort of financial agreement with repair shops and part providers and provided them with incentives based on the # of repairs for those insured with the company and promoted bad driving practices to their drivers - we would call that behavior insane and criminal. But that is exactly what is going on here. They don't take a loss they adjust the insurance costs for everyone and have arrangements with the government to cover most of the costs for seniors through Medicare. Blue Cross/Blue Shield and Kaiser Permeate are non profit organizations. United Health and Humana major shareholders are Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street.

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Lisa Bolek's avatar

It's even worse than just paying doctors for vaxxing-if they don't hit minimum vax percentage targets, they will lose their jobs with the big hospital networks. My D.O., who was fine with no vaxs for my family for years suddenly flipped her script back in 2012 and was trying to force my daughter to get Gardasil, and a bunch of booster shots. She was relentless. To shut her up, I finally said to her, "Have you lost your f'ing mind??!!" She finally told me her job was on the line after a big hospital group took over. Well, there was no way my daughter was getting Gardasil, so we walked out and never went back. EVER. To anyone.

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Rob D's avatar

There's no law that says a person has to take their children to these monsters... yet. Parents need to start making the same decision mine did and stop taking their kids for all of these insane "well visits". We went to the doctor if we broke an arm. Otherwise, our medicine was always food, exercise, fresh air, etc. If it's a schooling issue... there are hundreds of options out there now to keep your children out of these government schools. If we don't find our courage and start taking back the education and "health care" of our children, we deserve what we get. WE HAVE THE POWER.

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