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Crixcyon's avatar

The FDA and CDC trying to outdo each other for jokester of the decade award. As I recall, these are the same clowns who demanded everybody get a mRNA poison injection without a sprig of evidence that they were safe and effective. Never trusting either of these bozos.

Mick From Hooe (UK)'s avatar

With dodgy 'in-house' Safety and Efficacy tests and trials being undertaken, along with their 'in-house' rules that like; "You're regarded as unjabbed until 14 days after the poison is injected". What insane nonsense! Unjabbed Mick (UK).

Truth Seeker's avatar

In order to further illustrate your point, the lastest from these ABC goons:

BREAKING: FDA Goes Rogue — Approves Moderna’s Next-Gen COVID-19 mRNA Injection Without Placebo-Controlled TrialThis move directly contradicts a recent HHS statement: “All new vaccines will undergo safety testing in placebo-controlled trials prior to licensure — a radical departure from past practices.”Nicolas Hulscher, MPHMay 31

Ludmila Lavrova's avatar

The Russian authorities also recommended iatrogenesis - vaccines against Covid.

Mari Glading-Ho's avatar

When I think of all the years of my life that I had such TRUST in the "rock solid concern" that the CDC, FDA, NIH, NIAID, etc, had for me and all citizens of our country, I feel like such a naive fool.

It astounded me in 2020, 2021, to learn just how little care, precaution, investigation or actual clinical proof has gone into their decisions and approvals of drugs, food and products.

Boy, have we been hoodwinked, lied to, and actually even poisoned? When I first heard RFK Jr mention about these agencies being "captured" by corporate interests it was "no, really?" That was about 2021.

No doubt anymore.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

Don’t get mad. Get even. There are a lot of people who belong behind bars and stripped of all the $$ they were paid to lie.

Eagle's avatar

I agree with taking away all the $$ that they have extorted--- BUT putting them behind bars is such a waste of space, time, food, manpower etc ... there has to be another way! How about dropping them off on a faraway island is a wonderful idea - an island where no one can ever get to - and just leave them there to fend for themselves. They can eat sand, Zee-Bugz or perhaps each other!!! :-) Oh yes! ... and cameras can be placed all over the island for the world to watch The Best Show on Earth! This would be truly a Great Reset.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

When I mentioned behind bars, consider putting them in a zoo. Charge admission to watch them fend for themselves against animals of prey and give the proceeds to the victims they’ve harmed with their cruelty and greed 🙈

Eagle's avatar

Yes - we have all been poisoned by these psychopathic parasites for decades. Time and chance for DJT and RFK to STOP being afraid and do the right thing for the country. Just STOP IMMEDIATELY all poison - jab must be #1 on the list then of course the food additives, water, air etc.

Ludmila Lavrova's avatar

Russian officials are also captured by genocidal globalists.

Leynia's avatar

I like your wording, “Boy, have we been hoodwinked, lied to, and actually even poisoned?” It rocks a foundation. For me, at around the same time as for you. There was a recent discussion, quite good imo, about having the rug(s)pulled out from under. Neil Oliver with John Campbell: End of age of deference

Sue's avatar

Yes, we have been lied to repeatedly … a couple months ago I was flabbergasted when I learned that there is a natural way to prevent cancer! Not one person had mentioned this WONDERFUL, very inexpensive way to prevent cancer and I have had to deal with breast cancer 2 times! Urrrrr! There was a big cover up at Sloan-Kettering back in 1977. Three doctors hid the truth! Vitamin B17 is what we need and it is found in many foods, but it is especially concentrated in bitter apricot seeds. I want to tell the world! I absolutely love my apricot seeds. ♥️

sherri's avatar

All you need is like 5 or so a day, It has been hidden from us ,I find that criminal

Sue's avatar

Yes, Sherri … if you have never had cancer, you are to slowly build up to 5 per day, but if you have had cancer in the past, like me, you are to slowly build up to 10 per day. If you are currently fighting cancer, you need much more … you actually need Laetrile (the liquid form of Vitamin B17). Exact protocols are found on RNCstore.com. Plus, you don’t even need a prescription because Vitamin B17 is not a drug … it is a natural substance!

Alice Goodall is an RN that is willing to help … please consider reaching out to her at goodallsherbs@gmail.com.

Sue's avatar

Yes, and I agree … I find all this CRIMINAL!

Sue's avatar

Yes, Dr. Naomi Wolf interviewed John Richardson, Jr on here September 5, 2024 … I found the video riveting! His father was a doctor and was helping many of his patients beat cancer, but he was arrested! And, eventually he even lost his medical license … how WRONG!!!

Go to RNCstore.com, then drop-down menu, then Resources, then Podcasts or Documentaries to learn lots more. My favorite is Second Opinion, the documentary by Ralph Moss on the cover up at Sloan-Kettering in 1977. Wow!

Leynia's avatar

Thanks. I will look at these.

Troll Hunter's avatar

Yes, good discussion amongst the trio, but I can't for the life of me why they were so differential to "authorities" for so darn long. A fluoroquinolone anti biotic derailed my career for two years and that experience showed me that "they" really could NOT care less about us. Had to go outside The System (and out of pocket..) to find someone who put me (mostly) back together again.

Leynia's avatar

Oh my goodness. Good work, and what a relief, finding help. That it was at great cost, and a cost that never should have happened,....Good wishes to you.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

Just a suggestion here. Maybe someone in the CDC can get up and make it clear that face masks don’t protect anyone from viruses ever. And while they are at it, mention that wearing these face nappies for hours at a time is counterproductive - they have caused a lot of sickness and discomfort. I still see plenty of people walking around stores or even outdoors with them on. And they happen to be awful for communication.

Meryl Nass's avatar

I went into 3 large stores today and saw no one masked--in eastern Maine

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

I find the most popular stores for the masking crowd are Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s. They seem to attract folks who got heavily spooked by the narrative and choose to always be extra cautious. But they tend to become very sensitive when you question their intentions. If they wish to suffocate themselves, hey it’s a free country.

Truth Seeker's avatar

local Costco here in "paradise" has at least a third employees still wearing the face diaper though they avoid eye contact. Pharmacists included.

Elderly (usually Asian mix) shoppers also trotting around with cheapest masks (not even N95) though it wanes.

Truth Seeker's avatar

The alleged "virus" is a few Nanometers (1x10 neg 9) in size. The best correctly worn N95 cannot possibly do anything useful even for that scenario as its filtration ability is

~ 3 microns (1x10 neg 3)

N95 was designed to protect patients from surgeons bacteria in surgical field.

Suggesting the mask may be useful for alleged virus is like suggesting a gnat could be filtered by a mask with football field size holes.

Again: Virus as agents of infectious disease DO NOT EXIST

Original Owner's avatar

A couple years ago I found on the NIOSH website that the reason the diameter of 3 microns is specified in many places is that it is the most difficult diameter to filter out. Larger and smaller diameters are both easier to filter, due to the way particles behave when interacting with gases.

As a separate issue, I know that a number of people disbelieve in viruses as pathological entities, but that doesn't amount to disproof.

Truth Seeker's avatar

I precede your recent knowledge by over 30 years. The 3 micron size is simply the capability of N95. The interaction with gases statement is grossly unscientific

adding nothing except obfuscation. We are discussing particulates not gases.

It is not a matter of belief, it is a matter of evidence. No virus has ever been isolated or conforms to Kochs postulates which are used for every other infectious microbe. Dis proving something that does not exist is a conundrum that is yours not mine. You and countless others were donkeyed.

So was I indoctrinated with doctorate level education...

The only thing on offer is the willingness or lack of to admit false beliefs.

The discussion on filtration capacities has to do with a factor of 6 difference.

If you do not understand that, it further explains the appeal to "beliefs"

Original Owner's avatar

Simply asserting that your knowledge supersedes everyone else’s may satisfy some, but facts and logic are still facts and logic. NIOSH has been in the business of scientifically evaluating workplace safety issues for decades, and their guidelines are not intended for any particular industrial sliver on the pie chart, they’re for all workplaces.

If they are evaluating the safe breathability of workplace air, they’re not limited to hospitals, or welding shops, or pesticide factories, or producers of audio discs. And they’ve been doing it since well before the recent contagion hysteria.

I’ve known for years, because I’m a nerd, that when you scale down, things don’t behave the same. If you were ten times your height and kept the same proportions, you’d be a thousand times heavier, because mass would vary with volume, rather than with height.

If you observe winged creatures, you notice that large ones have differently-shaped wings than small ones. Eagles and condors have a certain kind of wing, hummingbirds have a different kind. Fruit flies have wings that are almost scoop-like, because the behavior of air around a very small flying creature is, at that scale, more like a liquid than it is like a gas. It’s still a gas, but at that scale, it “feels” more like a liquid, and if you propel yourself through it, your survival chances are better with fruit-fly wings than with condor wings.

That is what the NIOSH document was talking about. Air flowing through a chain-link fence behaves differently than air flowing through a structure that’s a thousand, or a million times smaller.

NIOSH changed the wording enough between when I first found the paragraph and when I had to look it up again that it took a long time to find it, and you are free to call me a liar if you want, but It’s going to be a while before I have time to look it up again. They might have removed the language because cranks like me were quoting them (unlikely, they don’t care about cranks). But it’s probably still there, and anyone still reading this can find it if they want to.

Truth Seeker's avatar

No interest in calling you a liar, none.

However true those observations, they are irrelevant to the discussion.

Totally irrelevant, and I do not care about your self nerd observation.

I have no addiction to agencies as the discussions are always more and more about less and less.

Original Owner's avatar

Assertions are covered under free speech, which we still appear to have to some degree in the USA, but while you are allowed by law to say anything, that doesn't mean that what you say is necessarily true.

Proof is something else, and apparently you just don't care about that.

Who said anything about being addicted to agencies? They exist, and some of them seem more credible than others, because some are less incentivized to fabricate and misrepresent. NIOSH appears to me like a place where really boring things happen, and stodgy scientists arrive at unexciting conclusions, which I find credible partly because there don't seem to be corrupting motivations.

But ignoring people who support their assertions with facts and logic is your privilege.

Leynia's avatar

Too true. The flip side might be that it could diminish The Scare. That would be bad for the businesses of masking and jabbing.

David 1260's avatar

Despite the disapproving tone of this post, who ever thought we'd get to this point, considering how bad things were up through November? This is a milestone, even if somewhat lame.

Rob D's avatar

That's a good point David 1260. We are up against the most powerful (and evil) industry in the world, not to mention generations now who have been brainwashed and told they are going to get sick and die if they don't get shots all the time.

Original Owner's avatar

Yes, I have been noticing that many people seem to believe that we are *obviously* naked and defenseless against infectious diseases *unless* we get a vax. That there are no other effective approaches to maintaining a healthy life.

Also, that vaxes are unquestionably safe.

That's some powerful Kool-Aid.

Truth Seeker's avatar

What I have noticed about 35 years ago just as true today as then, is that many people have no idea what health is or from where it arises. Somehow they falsely believe it comes from needles. It really is that simple.

Original Owner's avatar

A practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine told me that ideally, "first, we teach 'em how to breathe, then we teach 'em how to eat, then we teach 'em how to move, and when something gets out of balance despite all of that, then we start using herbs and needles."

Truth Seeker's avatar

Very wise, assuming that its possible to teach with the tone deaf.

The tenets of health have not changed, there are details.

nymusicdaily's avatar

entire childhood schedule is being pivoted to a mRNA platform. same with flu shots. we're in 2025. at this point, anyone who's injecting their kids with anything is complicit in murder

Joseph A Gorski's avatar

I agree they need to go a lot further. Unfortunately politics and big pharmaceutical companies stand in the way. Plus so many Americans still believe these vaccines are wonderful and safe. It seems like the best we are getting is incremental changes over time. Still disappointing.

Bjay25's avatar

Seemingly, that would be a reason for a poll to determine how many Americans "believe"(or more realistically, are still mentally falsely propagandized) that the Covid shots are "safe and effective". Has anyone seen this such pol or similar?

Joseph A Gorski's avatar

That would be a good poll.

Mick From Hooe (UK)'s avatar

Well, it's a start, but Kennedy implied he would reinstate LIABILITY upon all drug, medicines and most importantly, vaccines, even the DEADLY mRNA depopulating injections called 'vaccines'.

Only then could we consider trusting the medical and pharmaceutical criminals who enjoy the existing Licence to Kill with zero culpability.

LIABILITY is the only discipline that will impact their corrupt Cavallier practices.

Unjabbed Mick (UK) Until then, we'll all live longer and healthier lives by avoiding corrupt Big Pharma.

Meryl Nass's avatar

Congress voted the liability shield in in the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act so Congress will need to get rid of it. But with surprising support for a similar pesticide liability shield (in states and a draft in the pending Farm Bill), we probably don't have the votes yet. We need more evidence to come out and be reported by major media and when the whole country understands what took place our elected officials will be trampling each other to get rid of the 1986 Act and the PREP Act.

Mick From Hooe (UK)'s avatar

Thanks Meryl! The mountain of evidence has reached its capacity because the 'establishment' (corrupt Big Pharma) has bought off all remaining 'agnostics' who are satisfied to remain blind to 5 years' worth of corruption and proven abuse of responsibility. We've got as much acknowledgement as we can get. It's time to take the gloves off! Unjabbed Mick (UK).

Truth Seeker's avatar

RFK and the team of collaborators are expecting the people to wake from their slumber. Complacent and Complicit describes the people of the UK and Canada very well.

Somehow you realized to use your own knowledge and wisdom.

Spread that around.

Mick From Hooe (UK)'s avatar

Thanks Truth Seeker! My response to Meryl applies to your accurate analysis of where we are today!

"The mountain of evidence has reached its capacity because the 'establishment' (corrupt Big Pharma) has bought off all remaining 'agnostics' who are satisfied to remain blind to 5 years' worth of corruption and proven abuse of responsibility. We've got as much acknowledgement as we can get. It's time to take the gloves off"!

By the way, I'm a big fan of what Meryl has been trying to achieve. We're winning - slowly! Unjabbed Mick (UK).

Lionkiller's avatar

Can someone explain this sentence to me as if I were a 5 year old :

"For preventative vaccines, the underlying maternal condition is susceptibility to disease prevented by the vaccine"

To my mind, this does not make sense in English, but others may disagree.

David 1260's avatar

"Strong laboratory evidence supports the efficacy of tautology."

Leynia's avatar

It's an excerpt from their application to write for a Saturday Night Live parody on Government Speak.

Tim Pallies's avatar

It's too crazy for me! I only hope when they wrote this "prevented by the vaccine" they weren't talking about covid.

Truth Seeker's avatar

It is word salad designed to obfuscate.

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD's avatar

We have come so far! Watch for a call to action tomorrow AM on Popular Rationalism. You will absolutely want to act on this.

Gill's avatar

Thank you so much Meryl for sharing the Irish book. It can be purchased here for anyone interested www.healthfreedomireland.com/shop

Jason Brain's avatar

Meanwhile, in totally regressive wannabe-totalitarian Washington State...

https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House/1531%20HBR%20HCW%2025.pdf?q=20250224133227

From page-2 of the bill:

“Local health jurisdictions are also required to institute disease control measures, including testing, counseling, treatment, and vaccination.

The state and its political subdivisions may not enact statutes, ordinances, rules, or policies that prohibit the implementation and promotion of such measures. Any such statute, ordinance, rule, or policy is declared null and void.

The bill contains an emergency clause and takes effect immediately.”

Meryl Nass's avatar

Will it pass? AWFUL but sounds like Washington will do it.

Hazel's avatar

The average doofus living there keeps electing these people. The Marxists in the legislature make up these totalitarian bills and they get passed without any real consent.

Jason Brain's avatar

WA is lost. Too many drones to fight back the totalitarian tide. We are Canada here in the “upper left” now, it would seem, sadly.

And the pro-vax energy is huge out here in western WA. Masking is back up as well (I’d say 1/3 of people in the store are masked again). Inasmuch as vaccination has become entirely politicized (as a kind of atheist's eucharist of state submission) being outright anti-vax is now baseline conscientious objection. Until informed consent is sanctified (with manufacturer liability), I’m straight-up anti-vax. ☮️

KB's avatar

So glad this shot has been removed. But how many doctors will still push it? Also, they have to stop pushing all these shots for kids. There are still states that require all the CDC recommended shots or kids can't go to school. How many more kids have to die before this insanity stops???

Angelina's avatar

Pregnant women, children, inmates, soldiers, immigrants were always considered as "vulnerable populations." In clinical trials, pregnancy is a major reportable event, followed till termination/resolution and even after. I watched in shock, how suddenly, it was okay to vaccinate pregnant women?!

Truth Seeker's avatar

You are pointing out the obvious. If you noticed this so did countless others.

The resolve, JUST SAY NO TO ALL OF THEM. Health did not, does not, and could not come from needles.

Angelina's avatar

What exactly do you know about clinical trials? My guess is next to nothing. It's tiresome to hear from people who thing they know:-)

Truth Seeker's avatar

Let me assure you that my knowledge about said trials exceeds yours.

That is irrelevant. thing they know? Try proof reading

Health does not come from needles. Reread a few times.

Angelina's avatar

Really? What relationship to clinical trials you have?

Truth Seeker's avatar

Cogs in the wheel cannot consider their well intentioned efforts

were for naught. Dimest bulb in the room award goes to?

The clinical trial lackey...

Now for the thousands of lurkers: Consider that evidence convinced no fool. RFK is doing an excellent job dismantling false beliefs about the once prestigious journals, all of them. It has always been pay to play schemes. The best educated drank the kool aid, some set up kool aid stands. Foot soldiers, dime a dozen.

Angelina's avatar

Your platitudes are pathetic. It's not a conversation; you regurgitate without comprehension what you read. Not my level of conversation.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Try relevance:

RFK today:

"This includes “The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and those other journals because they’re all corrupt.”

Kennedy pointed to the testimony of Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, who warned the public that it is “no longer a science journal.”

Instead, she called it a “vessel for pharmaceutical propaganda.”

“We’re going to stop NIH scientists from publishing there,” he said. “And we’re going to create our own journals in health in each of the institutions.”

Angelina's avatar

I don't care re.: above. Don't quote articles to me. I know clinical trials' kitchen in and out.

Cy Lanced's avatar

I hope this is a start and that initiatives to remove COVID shots and ban the mRNA platform altogether are in place. This had best not be the end result of the efforts. The cat is out of the bag now, nobody who took the time to learn carefully about these shots will ever trust the corrupt CDC or FDA again. I want to live my life free of coercion and gaslighting from malevolent power grabbing profiteering actors pretending to be concerned about my health. They jumped the shark on this one and once people wrapped their heads around the fact we were LIED to, we realized we've been lied to all along. There's a whole lot of justice that needs to be meted out.

Amy Williams's avatar

Those 3 are the “COVER UP SQUAD”- Nothing to see here’”. Its like saying, “Sorry we INTENTIONALLY tried to KILL you and your Baby(and the rest of your family)”. Fauci and crew need to be convicted of their MASS MURDER crimes! 🤮👿

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

"I have been informed that President Trump and his Chief of Staff made the decision to leave the COVID mRNA-based products on the recommended CDC vaccine schedule and related guidance. Not Kennedy or Makary." - Dr. Robert Malone

Leynia's avatar

This is most informative. Thank you, Dr. Malone. Few people will have a chance to read this. Kennedy and Makary will be taking the rap, and that will have consequences This does not constitute an opinion about either of them. My comment is specific to your post.

Truth Seeker's avatar

and you believe that??? Maloney is a virologist. That title is an academic one, having nothing to do with practicing Medicine. Do not drink the kool aid... and certainly do not set up a kool aid stand.