Are we talking about the same thing? get a frickin' grip. Trump did what was needed and was actually more patient than any other POTUS I have ever lived to see.
DJT did not take this action for BN. He took it for our own safety and the well being of the Persian people who overwhelmingly are in support of his actions.
Yet keyboard warriors with the Derangement Syndrome believe their assessments are accurate. They are not.
Okay, I’ll admit it...yesterday was a sugar + ADHD moment and I went full emoji goblin. 😆
But there’s a real point: People build entire identities around political figures. Challenging that can often go beyond a disagreement and can feel like ego death. This is where pure cognitive dissonance lies (along with cognitive bias too)
It’s like trauma bonding. They defend their abuser because it gives them meaning, even if it causes harm. 'Deprogramming' is hard, and 'the horse' not only has to find the water - it has to drink it too.
Yes, I am aware. Was hoping to avoid giving Benji exactly what he wants all wrapped up with a bow on top. Looks like justice will find him later rather than sooner.
The BIS is in Switzerland, but the most powerful bankster cartel is in the City of London, the Rothschild cartel. MI6, the CIA, and Mossad do the dirty work for them, helped walong most U. S. Presidents, who are as stupid as Trump, and most British Prime Ministers, who are equally stupid.
No offense, but this is old news for people that have been following Netanyahu’s playbook for years. He is not fooling anyone that matters; least of all Donald Trump. He’s just a better chess player than Trump, unfortunately.
And yes, I do read; that’s how I know it was more important to Netanyahu’s political well being than to America’s well being that we get involved in Benji’s long dreamed for Iranian war. Makes me sick that he gets what he wants, yet again.
yes, what you say may be accurate about the direct benefit however there will be no "war" and it has nothing to do with that goon getting what he wants. Freeing the Persian people from radical Islam happens to be more important as is stabilizing the Mid East without the threat of insane radical muslims.
It is true that BN is a criminal. His own people also despise him.
However the strikes benefit Israel, they benefit the people of Iran far more, and the stability of the mid East. Radical Islamists are about 30% of the Iranians. They are despised by the rest.
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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The only mental dwarf here is the one who doesn’t realize everything in this intelligent post is already baked in to the equation, obviously.
The problem is Netanyahu is backed into a corner; he not only wants this war, he needs it. He was far less desperate when he orchestrated 9/11, and now that we have struck Iran, he has carte blanche to launch as many false flags as he wants until we do exactly what he wants, since he can blame them all on Iran. And the actual mental dwarfs, like yourself, will continue their chorus of “It had to be! We had no choice!”
And when you see Tehran and every other city or town of consequence reduced to the rubble that became Iraq, let’s revisit your assertion that this was a good thing for Iranians, and for the unfortunate 1,500 - 2,000 American troops and/or citizens that will lose their lives and loved ones. Brilliant thinking, that.
You are apparently convinced I’m some kind of leftist? LOL. I’m a three time Trump voter, Buddy. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything he does or believe he walks in water. Trump has shown before his vulnerability to group think - and this time it’s not the Covid Commies bending his will, but the Zionists and NeoCons.
Netanyahu is the same guy that convinced Bush to go to war against Iraq - just had to do 9/11 to make it stick - and now he’s pulling the same crap with Trump. Ridiculous.
Sweetheart, Dear; you honestly don’t know that 9/11 was an Israeli operation greenlit by BN??? Still?? 🤦🏼♀️
The documentaries, the eyewitnesses, the thousands of breakdowns of all the experts - this is so mainstream even Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson talk about it openly now. This hasn’t been in the “conspiracy” column for long past a decade.
Listen, if you’re a serious person, and want to be taken seriously, you can’t keep demanding people “drop you a link” as if we’re all in class and you’re the teacher assigning homework, lol. You have to do the work yourself. Truth is not sold on grocery store shelves, and it certainly isn’t handed out like Halloween candy. You have to want to find it, first of all, and then you have to look for it. Do the work, Bud. By the grace of God, it’s easier than ever to find the truth as more and more people begin to share it.
Do you approve of what happened Oct 7th?? That was iran funded by our last administration. The world will be better off with a nuclear armed terroristnation.
No, that was IsraHELL itself, they needed that to invade and finish Gaza... that is already proven. Similar , but not quite like /to Pearl Harbor, US govmt knew it will happen, let it happen - so allowed Americans to be killed so it can enter the war... They had the knowledge that P H will be bombed!!
Trump 01 tore up an agreement in 2018 that was working. In spite of that Iran allowed inspections. Trump 2.0 went through motions negotiating a new agreement but in reality planned a sneak attack by IT. They killed civilian scientists and their families and neighbors. And to make it clear negotiating was never honest they killed the lead negotiator.
The hope is Iran will attack US military and provide an excuse to do regime change which is the real goal.
What Trump has done is shown the world he has zero interest in honest dealing and abiding by National or international law.
you do know that being an American is an accident of birth. You could have been born an Iranian/Libyan/Syrian/Iraq or any one of a dozen countries we consistently threaten
put yourself in other peoples shoes for once in your pathetic life. these people arent attacking us. we have ringed them with 80 military bases. you dont think thats weird? we have sanctioned them since 1980, participate in routinely assasinating their military and scientific leadership.
Look we cant be on on top forever. Rome isnt on top. Greece isnt on top, Hell even Britain (once a world power) isnt on top.
When (not if) we fall - the blowback is going to be a bitch
I agree with you, not that my opinion matters. But still it is a sad day, and granted all of the war and bombing that has gone on for so long over there I can't imagine what it would be like to be living there. I have seen some pretty hideous videos of the violence as well as other violence in many other countries, California😢
Indeed. Bibi has been repeatedly warning about Iran being on the cusp of nuclear weapons since 1992. The list of presidents who had more patience than Trump who had more patience than Trump2 is: Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump1, Biden.
No one knows where we will be in 5 years - and Netanyahu has been spewing this same BS for the past 30 years. Absolutely did NOT have to be done now, and certainly not for your imagined inevitability.
Had to be done, there’s no proof that atomic or nuclear weapons even exist that’s absurd. They’ve been claiming Ron was trying to build a nuclear bomb for the last 35 years.
BS. North Korea developed a nuclear bomb against the wishes of the U.S and has not used it against the U.S. - However, the U.S. will no longer aim toward regime change in N. Korea because of N. Korea having nuclear weapons.
Iran should do the same asap to protect itself from the U.S. and Israel. Iran would be wise to get a nuclear bomb from Pakistan.
Now we will wait to see how Iran responds to this attack, now that the U.S. is at war with them. One has to wonder how many Iranian sleeper cells are now in the U.S.
5yrs? He'd be damn lucky if its one year. They already have enough 60% enriched uranium stored safely away for dozens of nuclear weapons. Not hard to boost that up to 90% weapons grade.
No they haven't, they pegged it at 60% which is classified below weapons grade and the IAEA was very aware of it and monitored it. They could easily enrich that to 90% with the same centrifuges.
I wonder if you’d be singing that same tune if the commander in Chief were Obama or Biden…give me a break. I voted for Trump all 3 times he ran; I believe 2020 was stolen, but I’m still smart enough to know 9/11 was an Israeli false flag and Covid was a scam - all part of the plan to keep Trump from winning. But NONE OF THAT means we had to fall for yet another Netanyahu BS war. That man is evil and even his own countrymen despise him. He is literally headed to prison as soon as there is no “emergency” in Israel, so expect him to continue finding reasons for emergencies for the foreseeable future. Hopefully Iran gets lucky and he gets a taste of his own medicine soon. Then the world truly would be safer.
It doesn’t require any critical thinking to hear him say he wants peace, he advised Israel against military action, and even now he is saying he wants to talk. So clearly he is against the war in concept, but he is still allowing us to be drawn into it inexorably.
Do you not recall him “cutting communication” with Netanyahu ahead of his Middle East tour? He didn’t invite Bibi to be a part of that trip and didn’t visit Israel at all.
I think it’s pretty clear Trump doesn’t want a war - JD Vance reiterated that this morning as well. They don’t want a war, but yet we bomb facilites inside a sovereign nation and assist in fueling up Israeli aircraft as they assassinate the lead Iranian negotiator.
Trump knows what he wants; but so far he appears to be getting out maneuvered in getting it.
What track record? Trump was totally subdued in his first term by the Deep State. What's Trump done beside borrow U.S. taxpayer dollars to give tax breaks to his base, which increased the national debt.
Trump is essentially a buffoon who has been bought by the Zionists. Now he's repaying these Zionists back by putting Israel first, not America first. We can now expect Iran to retaliate against America.
He wasn't totally subdued he did kill the TPP, TISA & TTIP which the Deep State wanted, wanted bad. He did quite a bit on Energy/Climate change scam as well which the Deep State hated. Energy is important. One more term of the Biden figurehead and everyone would be suffering under energy poverty.
I will agree that Trump is much preferable to another term of the Dumbocraps, even if only because of the uncontrolled illegal immigration; but, I am hoping that he doesn't continue with the warmongering. However, I have a feeling that, when Iran retaliates, Trump won't be able to resist continuing in this war. He appears to be harboring a propensity for that macho feeling.
I disagree with you regarding Ukraine. Trump has done nothing there but be a pain in the butt; and, is continuing to provide money and weapons, which prolongs Ukraine's ability to fight. Trump appears to have been briefed misinformation on Ukraine by the CIA. He thinks Russia has lost 1 million troops. Putin has had to make Trump realize that Putin's special operation is not going to cease until Putin's original goals of that operation are reached. Putin is not going to give Trump any say in how that war proceeds.
Kohmeini was, and still is an extremely dangerous person who wants the entire world that isn't Muslim to either be dead or to BE Muslim, and the people in his own country hate him and are in rebellion as we speak. What would you expect Trump to do? Perhaps he should go to K and say "Oh please supreme leader, don't make any nuclear weapons and destroy the world?" He's the CIC of the United States of America, and he knows EXACTLY what needs to be done and he's doing it.. and btw, this had NOTHING to do with Israel.. that is going to be dealt with later.. and it is going to be God's doing. All DT did was to protect the US first and foremost. Look at what Muslims are doing worldwide.. guess who is funding that chaos and murder? It certainly isn't Trump.
The rule of law? Iran funding terrorists? Biden DOJ lying to go after Trump, his allies, and even his lawyers? They even put Tulsi Gabbard on the terrorist watch list. Biden illegally letting in illegals to the tune of 30 million just to have more votes? Biden taking money from foreign governments? Rule of law?
He was within the law. As Commander in Chief he has a lot of latitude in what he does, including aiding an allie. The world will be a safer place without a nuclear armed terrorist nation.
Rule of law that allows for rights of illegals to overrun the US wit little recourse for citizens rights. The Follow the science that called for 85% of world population to be jabbed, locked down n wear Chinese made masks
I think the rationale was explained pretty clearly as to why it was done by a retired Colonel, Trump and Nass. It still doesn't make it any easier. It lessons the nuclear threat supposedly by Iran now but I hear it would pretty much be over if Russia decides to get involved? I guess the barking dogs are so trivial, compared to having the United States of America bomb three nuclear sites in three different cities, Destroying people? Their homes? it doesn't make me feel really GREAT. It makes me feel pretty hollow?
You do realize that some 30 million Americans never file a tax return each year, right? And they are never harassed like the 300 million who do. You might want to look into it.
Now the world is a safer place? What do you expect Iran to do, sit back and cry? China, India, and Russia would come to Iran's aid, maybe there's an exchange of nuclear weapons. How is that safer? Wouldn't it have been safer to get the peacemakers instead of the warmongers $$$ at the table? Big money in war.
I don't have OCPD so I don't give a fuck about sentence structure. Get back to spreading your ass cheeks for Fauci. I'm pretty sure he's a grammat nazi too.
Haven't you been listening to the many retired U.S. military officers and other well know analysts and reporters who have labelled Trump a liar? - Major. Scott Ritter, Col. Douglas Macgregor, Judge Napolitano, John J. Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson, Tucker Carlson, Jeffrey Sachs, etc.
I'm a life long independent. Have never been a Democrap nor a Repuglican.
I accumulate evidence over time before the preponderance of evidence forms an opinion. I do not need traitorous libtards to form an opinion for me.
For your information DJT is closer to your own affiliation. RFK defected as it is impossible to get traction outside of one of the parties. That does not make a person a devotee. It does allow them to reform as DJT has without question accomplished.
Have dispatched a Mac truck to the Par'e residence. The driver has a harness and will help you into it. He is trained on skillfull extractions but of course it depend on how far the head has burrowed. Trust the extraction.
Not only Trump but past administrations as well. Remember then Secretary of State Baker’s “NATO will not expand one inch eastward” promise to Gorbachev in 1990 while steadily doing just that since, culminating in the US provoked Russia-Ukraine war when the admission of Ukraine to NATO would put missiles on Russia’s border.
DJT is the Art of the Deal person. Recently re the tariffs EVERY country clamored to negotiate. Your assertions are that of a fool with tertiary Derangement Syndrome.
Hit and run? Seriously? Trump just told the world what the US did. You suppose maybe we'll be a target? You suppose that the Islamic world might hate America even more?
That ... president (I refrain from cursing) has put the world in a dangerous position and played right into the hands of the globalists. And I supported him. No more.
No I do not suppose that, and question your reasoning skills.
However keyboard warriors are not hesitant to suggest what should happen with no real information.
The radical Islamic world hated this country long before they heard of DJT.
It is only about 30 % of Iran, reread and do no assume!!
Further is it hardly about offending Islamic extremists it is about freeing the people of Iran who celebrated the precision stikes taking out the installed puppets controlling the country.
Trump's been accepting hundreds of million of dollars from people who are aligned with the globalists...he's owned by them and is repaying those debts. Most of us knew this; but, Kamala would have been worse. Our problem now is all of the ignorant, clueless Trump sycophants who worship him like he's their daddy.
They have hypersonic weapons that have probably been held back for just this occurrence and US hypersonic weapons are still in the testing and development stage. You have to remember that the US is rank 31 for mean IQ in cross national comparisons which is nit much smarter than the Iranians who were at least smart enough not to use mRNA shots.
You are a simpleton. It is not Iran, it is the Iranian regime, that has held the Persians is a chokehold for 40 years. The head of the snake has been decapitated.
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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Why do you brag about it? It's like the unique constitutional right of Americans to be sodomized, as determined by the SCOTUS in Lawrence v Texas. You can wave as many pride flags as you want but it is nothing to be proud of and the same applies to you being a fool.
This is all from Israel's playbook. The zionist imperative has been itching to pull the US into a catastrophic war with Iran for decades. Israel's move is to start a way they cannot finish, and the risk to them is so great that the US must engage. It must be considered that if Iran does not retaliate vigorously enough, that Israel will stage (and already has plans A, B and C in place) a false flag attack. Most likely a missile attack on US bases, or US ships - and blame Iran for it. Currently a huge portion of the US fleet is within range of Israeli missiles. Or torpedoes perhaps. If they do this it will go down in history as the Sitting Duck strategy. December 7, 1942 all over again. Iran has shown restraint so far. They actually have already defeated Israel, and could have done much more damage. There is no upside for Iran to be at war with Israel, or the US for that matter. This war is one that only Israel wants. We must stay out of it.
There's a reason why Isreal is being saved for last. Do you not think Trump doesn't know about Netanyahu for years? He compitulated to Trump back in his first term. 😉
Netanyahu looks different, Putin looks different, and if people couldn't tell that was a fake Biden the last four years, then people need to get their eyes examined. Things are NOT what they seem. 😉
Iran has plenty of weapons and no one in the Middle-East should trust the US or Israel. Diplomacy died with the murder of the Iranian negotiators. The Trump administration has a bunch of second-rate pinheads and cultists. People will more and more celebrate hits against Israeli and US interests.
The US created the emigration pattern through its mass murdering of civilians in their countries of origin. They have poured in as a result of the destabilization in that region.
The US may be rank 31 in cross-national mean IQ comparisons but even Americans know this.
According to an epidemiological study that was published in The Lancet in 2006 when The Lancet was still a reputable journal the US butchered up to nearly a million elderly, women, children and other mainly civilian Iraqis in less than 3 years.
The efficiency and scale of the butchery the US carried out in Iraq dwarfed anything the Nazis did in a comparable time frame during their occupation of any individual country in Europe.
On the day Bush announced the intention to invade due to alleged WMDs I turned to a friend and said "Anyone who for one nanosecond believes this bullshit about Saddam still having an active WMDs program is dumber than mentally retarded."
That said, I was surprised when the US did not fabricate evidence of them after the invasion like the US did when it framed Saddam beforehand with the forged document purporting to show that he had tried to purchase uranium from West Africa.
I was familiar with James Bacque's work, which was subsequently validated by KGB records after the fall of the Soviet Union, showing that the US intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around a million German prisoners held without access to the protections of the Geneva Convention in a network of primarily US concentration camps in Europe during 1945-1946 so I knew what the Iraqis were in for and the results of the study in The Lancet did not surprise me when they came out.
America's greatest ally is repeating with the Palestinians what the US did to the Germans in American concentration camps.
The Iranian people, who might previously have been pro-American will consolidate behind their leadership as a result of the air strikes that are taking place against them now.
Now, based on the lie that Iran was about to acquire nuclear weapons illegally, like America's greatest ally and North Korea both did, the US has struck Iran and Moslems will pour into high IQ Europe as well as the IQ rank 31 US.
The Persians have been liberated and have already "come out" in support of
the surgical strikes. Spoke directly with 2 today. Conflating other conflicts is broad brushing and inaccurate. No idea about the '06 issue you reference.
Definitely concure re: the Sadam frameup.
No idea what you are trying to convey in that last sentence?
You do not know whether the about to acquired issue is accurate or not despite prior claims, neither do I.
However DJT is no war monger by his consistent history for the first 4 years and brokering peace consistently. For that reason I trust him and refrain from being an opinionated keyboard warrior with only assertions.
I do worry that although I fully agree w this action and am thankful our pilots got out alive - nonetheless I expect cells in the us to begin attacking us from
Sheila England Shame on you for your support of western empire hegemony, Intellectual-Cowardice & murder of 100s of 1000s in Gaza & now 10s of millions dead in every unwarranted war started by Israel over the past 70 years of hell making as a colonial invader into the once peaceful middle east. Most of those killed are women & children along with men who stood up to protect their homes. This is the once beautiful world our cousins chose to make our foreign European colonial Isra-hell in.
FORMAL BOTH-SIDES-NOW, EQUAL-TIME, RECORDED & PUBLISHED DIALOGUE ALTERNATIVE TO KILLING WAR The Holiness of Palestine-Israel LAND-BRIDGE between the Mega-Continents of EurAsia & Africa has been in its peoples' stewardship with long welcoming reception & economic inclusion as hosts to the inevitable traveler, trades-person & refugee. Given the movement of peoples between the Mega-Continents & re-affirmed by UNESCO's 'Out-of-Africa' genetic studies, practically all peoples of the Mega-continents have ancestors who’ve lived-in or passed-through Philistine-Canaan-Amalek-Palestine over many millennia, perhaps least of all the Ashkenazi Jew who’ve invaded over the past 100 years. Muslims, Christians & Arab or Sephardic Jews were collaborative neighbours. At 1st Palestinians welcomed, included & protected the Ashkenazi (Some of my family in 3 branches), but soon after repeated land-theft & massacres by Irgun-Lehi, Stern-gang, Hagenah soldiers, Mossad etc. realized the conquest intention of the Ashkenazi.
INTELLECTUAL COWARDICE OR TRUTH & RECONCILIATION? European Ashkenazi could’ve & still can engage with their Palestinian neighbours & governments in BOTH-SIDES-NOW, Equal-time, Recorded & Published DIALOGUES in-order-to lay the foundation for understanding, collaboration, working-relationships & Conflict-resolution /c Palestinians. No bloodshed required. Refusal to engage in formal dialogue is intellectual-cowardice, although common in our western Oligarch institutional MONOLOGUES. However there is a problem of Intellectual-Cowardice to breach such honesty rather than remain hidden in violence.
'Indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') people refer to formal Dialogue as COUNCIL-PROCESS, Socrates as 'Dialectic-Rights, Mohandas Gandhi as 'Satyagraha' = 'Truth-Search' as-part-of India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'Indigenous' aka 'Self-sufficiency') movement as the Economic Engine which asserted Independence. Formal Dialogues or Dialectics mimic the functioning of the human mind.
DIALECTIC NEURAL PHYSIOLOGY Both eyes for example see in 2-dimensions, but the images are joined in the Neural Cortex for their differences in order to construct a 3-D working model of the world we live & act in. All senses of Smell, Hearing & Kinetic body movement from our 2 arms, legs & sides add 'dialectic' ('both-sided') dimensions to the world we perceive. When people are recorded & held responsible for what they say, reputation is put out into the public & hence becomes more collaborative & engaging. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
In human Psychology, INTELLECTUAL-COWARDICE often has more pull, than physical-cowardice, hence citizens are compliant & soldiers would rather be killed in a senseless war, than be embarrassed to have revealed they’ve submitted & are living by our fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') Oligarch system of dependence & lies.
PATHOLOGY OF OLIGARCH 'DOMINANCE' In our fake Oligarch system, the higher up one goes, the more dependent one is on the 'exogenous' (L. 'other-generated') Oligarch fake: Finance, Media, Religion, Education, Military-Industrial, Legislative, Judicial, Pharma-med & Agri-business COMPLEX. "Permit me to issue the currency of a nation & I care not who makes its laws", attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744 to 1812. What does it take to convince people that we 'subjects' live in an Oligarch 'designed-to-be' totally captured, inappropriately scaled fake 'democracy' held in a fake COMPLEX. "It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it", attributed to Upton Sinclair
RECOGNITION & EMPOWERMENT OF ALL: During all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (L. 'self-generating') heritage worldwide RELATIONAL-ECONOMY, 10s of 1000s of years old Time-based equivalency distributed decentralized worldwide accounting system before Babylon. String-shell (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island - N. America, Quipu in S. America & Cowrie in once indigenous Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands) provides memory record, attribution & empowerment for every collective contribution, buying, selling, investment & exchange in the once worldwide ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complexes & specialized Domestic (mostly women), Commercial & Industrial (mostly men) economies. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy
REMEMBERING: Individual loneliness, detachment & isolation is built into fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') amnesic Oligarchy's long 7000 year colonial empire rule since Babylon (5000 BC), Phoenician-Empire (4000 to 0 BC) terrorism across the Mediterranean & Black Sea regions. Their miscreant design is for dominance, war & destruction. Its helpful for folks to be able to go a step before the colonial Oligarch Trillionaire narrative & recall each our ancient 'indigenous heritage of 'community' (L 'com' = 'together' + 'munus' = 'gift-or-service'). Jeffrey Epstein as an Oligarch puppet, used sexual-compromise & reputation-fear to control $$ vulnerable Politicians, Bureaucrats & Business-people into Oligarch agenda.
"I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardice. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness." Mohandas Gandhi in Harijan, 15-7-'39, p. 201 Hence most soldiers, who refuse to challenge Oligarchy $$ & politicians, intellectually, are $$ compliant-cowards as are the greater part of the Mainstream war & inoculation compliant population.
LEVANT BIO-REGION's EVICTION OF ZIONISTS (When life itself has the last say) Ashkenazi multi-trillionaire Oligarch invasion, genocide, occupation & destruction of Palestinian Villages, Polyculture Orchards (eg. Olive, Pinion-Pine etc) along with Biosphere-based Solar-absorbing infrastructure, replaced by Suburban car-dependent: detached-home, Industrial & Shopping Centre Solar reflecting Sprawl & Mass Highways has led to the longest drought & emptying of the water-table in the Levant region's history. Polyculture's nearly complete ~95% photosynthesis of solar energy into food, materials, energy & water-cycle, creates an energy vacuum which drives warm moist ocean winds inland. 60% of Moisture transfer from ocean to continent is through condensation of these winds upon quadrillions of square kilometres of fractal leaf & bark surface. Only 40% of moisture transfers as rain-snowfall. 2-D Agriculture only photosynthesizes 2-8% of solar energy, creating High-pressure airs which push wind from continent towards the sea, creating permanent desert. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/b-ecological-design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies
In your Monologues, you are not a 'Truth Seeker', as truth requires parsing through the rigour of dialogue, facts, figures, logic, emotion etc. Hence Mohandas Gandhi's 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'Truth-search') requiring individuals to sit down together (or online) in the tradition of Both-sides-now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogue. Would your so-called 'loyal' indoctrinated 'beliefs' stand up to the scrutiny of equal-time or text? Are you so afraid of dialogue that you must use violence, like Mossad Epstein's Lolita-Island Trump & most of my cousins in Isra-hell? I await your engagement. When people are recorded & held responsible for what they say, reputation is put out into the public & hence becomes more collaborative & engaging. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues TRANSFORMING SOCIAL 'MEDIA' (Latin 'medium' = 'middle' i.e. 'obligatory presentation of both sides') FROM MONO TO DIALOGUE https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-communication-converting-social-media-from-mono-to-dialogue-libya
If only such a simple minded statement were true. See Iraq. Do you consider all the American lives lost due to Iraq to be an ideal model for v2.0? Disgusting.
When rejecting rape is somehow hateful, it speaks a lot. But some people with sociopathic aggressive greedy minds just cannot co-exist with others in harmony and be emphatic. They need to dominate through force and reject any dialogue as if the planet belongs to them only
Sure. Now that Americans have become a target and Israeli civilians are hiding in bomb shelters, while civilian planes flying through Middle East risk being caught in fire exchanges. Thank you, all the vile stupid warmongers with luxury bunkers for endangering our lives
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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The implication of your second sentence is that Iran was peacefully at peace when Israel, and now the US, attacked it. I guess that’s what people here and around the world have to sort out.
The process should start with the basic principle that peace is much more than absence of war.
Well its down hill from here.. Netanyahu is laughing, they got the US involved in another war.. Now these EVIL people who are behind this can do any terror attack they want in the US and they will blame it on Iran.. This country just does injustice after injustice and never learns, so I am afraid what is in store for this country now..
Vietnam Vet here.. Did not wear any masks or get any needles during the plandemic, because we knew from the beginning it was BS... You worry about man and his technology, he needs his technology to make him feel powerful, just like a wizard needs his wand, without either they are nothing.. Those who cannot create, destroy..
Clueless dolts took the jab, the stupidest of which stuck it into their childrens arms. There are still people driving around alone in A/C cars with masks on competing for the lowest level of stupid.
Unfortunately you are right.. That cook just died from a heart attack they said at first report, she had a couple of jabs and bragged about it on social media, people were posting she died from the jabs, then all of a sudden the story changed and they found drugs while she was in the SHOWER LOL, so she died from an overdose LOL.. Like I always say.. WE do not know what she died from but we do know what she did not die from LOL..
Thank You.. Just wish the millions of doctors and nurses during the plandemic would have served us domestically against ALL LIES and defended the American People with TRUTH and stood up to LOL, just losing their Jobs by telling the TRUTH like us Veterans did with giving our lives on foreign soil.. Cowards all, have no more respect for any of them, except for the few that stood TALL and spoke TRUTH to ALL LIES.. Money was more important to them and their families then Lives of others..
Because we destroyed a nuclear facility!? For Iran to use nuclear capabilities on us or some other country? It HAD to be done! The world is a safer place now! 🤦♀️
pretty sure the threat was not imminent? Why would you say that without real knowledge? DJT has not done anything like this before. Why would he suddenly change course? Further if the past years did not garnish trust where is your assessment skills?
The real knowledge was gained by the people and agencies that look for weapons. Israel has used the same argument for years that Iran is getting it, getting it getting it.... RE: DJT, on which day did he not change a course?
So you say and believe. Nuclear enrichment capabilities are destroyed.
3 of them.
You benefit regardless of ignorance.
Conflating that with BN (not Israel) is disingenuous and the error or equivalency. Keeping fools guessing takes senior level skillset as we just witnessed for the benefit of all but mostly the Persians living under the Mullahs. Iranian people are overwhelmingly in support.
What else ya got? (Other than tertiary Derangement)
who knows ? will not keyboard warrior an opinion however I most definitely trust DJT as he has not been wrong and is willing to make the toughest decisions
Take your condescending a$$ somewhere else! It absolutely HAD to be done! I could give 2 💩💩 about Netanyahu. Israel is being saved for last. Now go pound sand.
Leave the witty banter and attempts at sky digs to others, Sheila, it’s clearly not your thing. Neither is insightful commentary, but hey, it’s your face - slather it with egg if you wish.
The keyboard warriors have retreated in haste. They are searching for another issue to crow about with indignation. Thanks to the few rational people exposing the foolishness.
I had to get rid of two very nasty commentaries. I don't see the reason to be vicious, hateful and disrespectful. Ask a simple question and you get a mouthful of hate. You cannot rationalize with them.
It seems to me completely added to say of the bombing, "It had to be done, the world is safer now." Funny, we've had decades of proxy war after proxy war, spent prodigious amounts of our blood and treasure on these military 'solutions,' yet our world seems never to be "safe" enough to stop what appears to be the goto resolution of all the world's problems, i.e., more war.
Tomorrow is not promised, for ANYONE! But WE do NOT wait like sitting ducks either and hoping THEY don't! Hope is NOT a method! 🤦♀️ Obviously, you know nothing about military tactics. President Trump has been saying for 10 years, actually longer that "Iran must not have a nuclear bomb", PERIOD!
What I’m saying is, it sucks that those who care to know little about military tactics,, and engaging with life always on the offensive- - have to reside in the same world with those of you who do.
You only ever think with your dick first and clean up the mess later.
You offered nothing new TS. The point is not what clean points they targeted and bombed accurately. It is, how are we still at this point in the first place?
In Izraela. Lastniki prvega dvojčka v NY je bil Izraelec, žid , ki ga je kupil mne več kot par mesecev pred napadom. In so bile slike kako so v tem dvojčku bili nastavljeni eksplozivi kmalu po nakupu.
I’m very sad. I’m no fan of any of this. I pray that he weighed and prayed about all of the options and this will now de-escalate. In the name of Jesus, Father God let it be so.
Go pound sound, little man. Do you not ever pray and weigh the options that you are making the right decision, about ANYTHING in life!? What is the matter with you?? Of course, President Trump weighs ALL of the options and TRUSTS his team and if they say a prayer, great even better! The man has the weight of our country, the world on his shoulders! The man gets very little sleep, doesn't need it, unlike sleepy Joe. 🙄
It's about trust, and I have that trust in him. It seems to me you know a whole lot about nothing. 🤦♀️
And this is how those on the other side devolve into the same childishness as those we fight against. You disagree with the MAGA crowd you are a hater. No, I think with my brain. You made the comment “Trump prayed over his decision.” YOU don’t know that. Don’t make definitive statements which are not based in fact. If that hurts your little feelings, then too bad for you. Keep following in lockstep. Keep not thinking for yourself. YOU are no different than those you claim to fight against. You have chosen to worship a false god. That isn’t going to end well for you.
God is Sovereign, but allows very evil things to happen. Satan has temporary dominion on this planet to tempt and ruin those who Rebel against God. Trump may still be the better of 2 evils, but the name of God uttered by him, sounds as hypocritical as when the Bushes did. It's becoming more obvious why Trump was allowed to win. Woe to the US. Pray brothers and sisters.
I do understand that and why you feel this way. Evil is having its way. But remember, God wins this war between good and evil. I think we will be alive to see it. It’s going to get worse before it gets better as the old adage goes. The US plays a pivotal role in the end times and it’s not going to be pretty. We are no longer “one nation under God”. We are no longer doves. Got to keep close to Jesus, the savior. It’s the only way.
It's called "peace through strength" - a term that weak Liberal/Democrats are unfamiliar with. As demonstrated by Obama, pallets of cash don't accomplish anything.
No, it's called "the warmongers won this round." We need the peacemakers on board.
Trump has proved himself to be a blustering, boastful, braggart who claimed he could end the Ukraine and Gaza wars "in days." Didn't happen, and instead we get an escalation of war.
I express my opinion, and criticize the ruling powers. That's what free speech is supposed to be about: to call out bad ministers. It appears that Trump is one. Saying so is neither disloyal or traitorous.
The only peace that the United States brings to the world is the peace of the cemetery. Iran has done nothing illegal or immoral. They have been illegally attacked and are defending themselves because they are not pushovers . All the US does is exploit, plunder and murder all over the globe to uphold wealth in this country that doesn't produce anything. We are a decadent empire in its last throes. Trump is very much like Nero.
Should we have waited for them to create a nuclear weapon, and look back in retrospect? They were very close in completing it, within days or weeks! Trump has been saying for 10 YEARS, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, PERIOD! These people are terrorists!! 🤦♀️
North Korea developed nuclear weapons against U.S. wishes and has not used them on us. And, now, the U.S. will not attempt regime-change of N. Korea because of them having those weapons.
Iranians are now gathering in large numbers to support their government. Pakistan could simply give nukes to Iran. Pakistan has already stated that if Israel nukes Iran, Pakistan will nuke Israel.
Why not (let them have a nuclear waapon)? They are good people. If even terrorist Israel has nukes....The terrorists are the Anglo-American Zionist Empire. PERIOD! While the US, Israel, and the UK have nuclear weapons, no one is safe on this planet.
inaccurate assessment but worse giving voice to highly undesirable outcomes
Iran has been decapitated, it apparently had to be done. You or I am not privilege to the details thus a strident opinion is actually stupid. If you have no hope you are hopeless,
No. He's not standing up for anything; he's buckling to the warmongers. Israel started this: we should've let them end it on their own and eat their own cake. But the word on the street is that Israel couldn't stand up to Iran on its own, it wanted to draw US in and Trump fell for it.
Trump isn't standing up for us. He's betraying us, and the world, to the warmongers. This is disgusting.
??? are you insane? "DJT buckles not" ... right. Blustering and bragging about how he would end this war and end that war in a matter of days -- 48 hours even!! The magic of DJT! A peace president! Finally. But now the warmonger buckles not.
I think a lot of people are seeing they did NOT get what they voted for, because people want peace and not war. Only the warmongers want war.
Cool down it effects the cerebral hemispheres. DJT has been the Peace President until very recently. What about that FACT do you not comprehend? Your assessment is premature as you do not have the facts.
Oddly that does not stop you from asserting... Hang on for incoming information, it will not be long in coming...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. HOWEVER. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts. If you disagree on the war mongering or Zionists turning their back on God and in support of them any nation does the same, they lose the kingdom for aiding those against Christ. You would be wrong
If I had voted, I would definitely have voted for Trump. I believed he was a good man, but now all that "goodness" is evaporating in the fog of war. This is insane.
Trump is repaying the Zionists who gave him billions for this election campaign. The Adelsons, alone, gave Trump $280 million. Trump is bought and paid for. He's Israel-First.
Either your bait is weak and reveals your imperfections, you're not Christian or just willfully ignorant of pretty much anything relevant. I assume you think Israel is our ally. Ok, I'll bite. What have they done for Us since 1954 with Our $10BN a year? Besides sink the USS Liberty when they KNEW it was Our boat and the Israeli skipper replied "I don't care".. We (Americans) are the SOLE reason the illegitimate land of Israel exists AT ALL.
We need a true spiritual evolution. All minions in the nefarious MIC behemoth should stand down. Don't participate in the slaughter of innocents for the plutocracy. Don't execute orders that violate the sanctity of life. (Rhetorical comment)
Exactly, David 1260. There is no evidence whatsoever that they are attempting to develop a nuclear weapon, and if they did, they would be in their right to do so, like all the other countries that have them. This whole operation has always been about regime change, and not because they are "terrorists" but because the US cannot allow BRICS....it's about US world hegemony.
Exactly. It's pushback against BRICS, which just completed a railway from China to Iran. That offers a geostrategic alternative to the Straits of Malacca, which had been a a huge constraint on China's access to energy.
What's odd is Hegseth painting the U.S. in a corner by saying "This isn't about regime change." Where do they go from here? Either they've got some super duper secret plan, or they've just failed at power politics.
David 1260, this would be the case in a sane and logical universe ("Where do the go from here"). I have no doubt that they will use propaganda and rely on general amnesia in the public to trump up some other threat...If you look at the NYT and PBS and NPR headlines, everything is already being spun in ways that are completely devoid of reality.
The US-Anglo-Zionist Empire is in deep trouble and the train line from China to Teheran is the obvious sign of that. They have already lost Eurasia, and their deceptive, aggressive, and mendacious games are losing them the majority of the Global South as well, and therefore control over the vast majority of energy and natural resources. China has very intelligently built a lot of infrastructure in Africa (instead of building military bases and bombing the crap out of them, like the US does). The Anglo-American-Zinonist Empire's leadership is lost in dangerous arrogance, ignorance, and doomed entitlement. Pride comes before the fall.
Simple: The U.S. Intelligence Community reported that Iran hasn't had a nuclear weapons program since 2003, and wasn't pursuing one now. They previously had been in the JCPOA, which Trump cancelled, and have been continuously inspected by the IAEA. As signers of the Non-Proliferation Treaty--unlike Israel--they are entitled to use nuclear science for power and medicine. Except that Israel decided they didn't want it to. Trump did a 180 away from the negotiated agreement with Iran (that was an updated JCPOA) to the maximalist demands of Israel. In fact, Trump added that Iran would have to give up its ballistic missiles and unconditionally surrender. That's something no nation would do.
It's clear the U.S. and Israel refuse to allow Iran's current government to exist.
So you assert.Athough he has distanced himself from Is (BN)
suddenly it makes perfect sense to you that he would do this.
I study people very carefully. Character assessment is actually my forte.
Have not been wrong. Therefor am calling absolute BS on your simple claims. One of us is a fool. I find it interesting that so many have zero character assessment skills.
For instance many RFK devotees were blindsided when he joined team Trump. I was not, disclosed the obvious long before the announcement.
Not a single Beaconite had any clue whatsoever. Either these same RFK all the way peeps have terrible assessment skills or... RFK the "only" one who could save the county sold them out.
You are very likely one of these peeps and if so have very little credibility.
Meanwhile the people of Iran overwhelmingly support taking out the Mulloh's and generals that have held them captive for 40 years. The fact that Is benefits is not evidence for what you assert.
Making it a giveaway to BN is simple, as in simpleton.
THIS just published by Dr. Brighthope of Australia
(not you Bolton assertion)
"Iran, she reminded us, is a nation whose people are shackled not just by a regime, but by the world’s indifference. It is easy, too easy, for foreign leaders to condemn Iran’s government. Harder is the reckoning that every missile strike, every economic sanction, often lands hardest on the backs of the innocent. Hodge described the impossible calculus faced by ordinary Iranians: how do you rise up when your revolution might end not in freedoms, but in funerals?
Her prose caried the chill of truth. Young Iranians, hungry for change, are caught in a cruel paradox. If they rebel, they are crushed. If foreign powers intervene, they may be obliterated. “We must live between bullets and betrayal,” one anonymous activist told her. “Between the guards and the ghosts.”
As I wrote earlier from Martin Luther King's acceptance address:
“Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. I am not unmindful of the fact that violence often brings about momentary results. Nations have frequently won their independence in battle. But in spite of temporary victories, violence never brings permanent peace. It solves no social problem: it merely creates new and more complicated ones. Violence is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding: it seeks to annihilate rather than convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends up defeating itself.”
This will not bring peace. Expect more Israelis and Iranians to die...perhaps in numbers we cannot even imagine. How said that so many believe in the myth of redemptive violence. How sad!!
Redemptive violence? Redeeming what? Iran hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve "redemptive violence." They were unlawfully attacked by Israel and are defending themselves. Trump is a puppet of Empire. It's all about destroying BRICS and continuing the racket.
Please, please, please read what I've written. Redemptive violence is not what you're thinking. I've written about "the myth of redemptive violence" on another substack by Meryl today. I've written about "the myth of redemptive violence" in my substack. For God's sake!! What is wrong with you people? I in no way support Trump's action. In fact, Trump has unleashed hell upon this country.
Iran is a sovereign nation who has been wrongly attacked and vilified. Today's actions by the President of the U.S. shows that he is, as I said BEFORE this attack, A MAN NEVER TO BE TRUSTED. HIS NEGOTIATIONS ARE A SHAM. HE IS NOT A WINNER; HE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE GREATEST LOSER IN HISTORY.
These actions arise because HE believes in "the myth of redemptive violence." Not me. I'm pointing out the basis for HIS thinking.
In SHORT, "the myth of redemptive violence" conflates religious tenets with the very WRONG idea that "God" supports violence and, thereby, exonerates your violence. The myth embraces these ideas: "Peace through war, security through strength..." Exactly what Trump has done. Much of Judaism and Evangelical Christianity thinking is based on "the myth of redemptive violence."
A sad day. The rule of law has been extinguished.
Are we talking about the same thing? get a frickin' grip. Trump did what was needed and was actually more patient than any other POTUS I have ever lived to see.
Why was that needed? Because Benji said so? Why now? Do you ever think critically at all?
DJT did not take this action for BN. He took it for our own safety and the well being of the Persian people who overwhelmingly are in support of his actions.
Yet keyboard warriors with the Derangement Syndrome believe their assessments are accurate. They are not.
lmao! there's only one deranged person here! Oh wait... I see there are a few more 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Okay, I’ll admit it...yesterday was a sugar + ADHD moment and I went full emoji goblin. 😆
But there’s a real point: People build entire identities around political figures. Challenging that can often go beyond a disagreement and can feel like ego death. This is where pure cognitive dissonance lies (along with cognitive bias too)
It’s like trauma bonding. They defend their abuser because it gives them meaning, even if it causes harm. 'Deprogramming' is hard, and 'the horse' not only has to find the water - it has to drink it too.
LOL Awesome comment Kamii
General Wesley Clark talks about the PLAN after 9/11 to TAKE OUT 7 countries w/ IRAN LAST!
"starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."
2007
https://rumble.com/v6v1jtt-general-wesley-clark-talks-about-the-plan-after-911-to-take-out-7-countries.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o
General Wesley Clark, Democracy Now, Full Interview, 2007
https://rumble.com/v6uxb6b-general-wesley-clark-democracy-now-full-interview-2007.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_o
Yes, I am aware. Was hoping to avoid giving Benji exactly what he wants all wrapped up with a bow on top. Looks like justice will find him later rather than sooner.
Benji is just a little toadie boy, like his buddy, Zelinski, obeying the orders he gets from the Bankster cartel in Switzerland.
The BIS is in Switzerland, but the most powerful bankster cartel is in the City of London, the Rothschild cartel. MI6, the CIA, and Mossad do the dirty work for them, helped walong most U. S. Presidents, who are as stupid as Trump, and most British Prime Ministers, who are equally stupid.
Please help spread the word
No offense, but this is old news for people that have been following Netanyahu’s playbook for years. He is not fooling anyone that matters; least of all Donald Trump. He’s just a better chess player than Trump, unfortunately.
NetanYAHOO has added more.. Pakistan is now next on the list..
Why was Obama allowed to drone strike a 16yo American citizen? Where were you, you fascist?
Julie, Christard has twice the "likes" say something already!
Certainly keyboard warriors have more brilliance to display.
https://youtu.be/CfUa5_UoQhI
who knows? he was hardly cozying up to that Goon
do you read??
Which goon are you referring to? Netanyahu?
And yes, I do read; that’s how I know it was more important to Netanyahu’s political well being than to America’s well being that we get involved in Benji’s long dreamed for Iranian war. Makes me sick that he gets what he wants, yet again.
yes, what you say may be accurate about the direct benefit however there will be no "war" and it has nothing to do with that goon getting what he wants. Freeing the Persian people from radical Islam happens to be more important as is stabilizing the Mid East without the threat of insane radical muslims.
Getting rid of genociding psychopaths in ITsville is first and foremost what is needed.
There will not be a "war" Iran radicals are debilitated, they have very few options
It is true that BN is a criminal. His own people also despise him.
However the strikes benefit Israel, they benefit the people of Iran far more, and the stability of the mid East. Radical Islamists are about 30% of the Iranians. They are despised by the rest.
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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The only mental dwarf here is the one who doesn’t realize everything in this intelligent post is already baked in to the equation, obviously.
The problem is Netanyahu is backed into a corner; he not only wants this war, he needs it. He was far less desperate when he orchestrated 9/11, and now that we have struck Iran, he has carte blanche to launch as many false flags as he wants until we do exactly what he wants, since he can blame them all on Iran. And the actual mental dwarfs, like yourself, will continue their chorus of “It had to be! We had no choice!”
And when you see Tehran and every other city or town of consequence reduced to the rubble that became Iraq, let’s revisit your assertion that this was a good thing for Iranians, and for the unfortunate 1,500 - 2,000 American troops and/or citizens that will lose their lives and loved ones. Brilliant thinking, that.
You mean genociding psychopaths like IT? No US president looking after the interests of his people would have anything to do with IT
You are apparently convinced I’m some kind of leftist? LOL. I’m a three time Trump voter, Buddy. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything he does or believe he walks in water. Trump has shown before his vulnerability to group think - and this time it’s not the Covid Commies bending his will, but the Zionists and NeoCons.
Netanyahu is the same guy that convinced Bush to go to war against Iraq - just had to do 9/11 to make it stick - and now he’s pulling the same crap with Trump. Ridiculous.
Sweetheart, Dear; you honestly don’t know that 9/11 was an Israeli operation greenlit by BN??? Still?? 🤦🏼♀️
The documentaries, the eyewitnesses, the thousands of breakdowns of all the experts - this is so mainstream even Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson talk about it openly now. This hasn’t been in the “conspiracy” column for long past a decade.
Listen, if you’re a serious person, and want to be taken seriously, you can’t keep demanding people “drop you a link” as if we’re all in class and you’re the teacher assigning homework, lol. You have to do the work yourself. Truth is not sold on grocery store shelves, and it certainly isn’t handed out like Halloween candy. You have to want to find it, first of all, and then you have to look for it. Do the work, Bud. By the grace of God, it’s easier than ever to find the truth as more and more people begin to share it.
NOT needed by the world Needed by israHELL
Do you approve of what happened Oct 7th?? That was iran funded by our last administration. The world will be better off with a nuclear armed terroristnation.
No, that was IsraHELL itself, they needed that to invade and finish Gaza... that is already proven. Similar , but not quite like /to Pearl Harbor, US govmt knew it will happen, let it happen - so allowed Americans to be killed so it can enter the war... They had the knowledge that P H will be bombed!!
Mostly true in most countries I've visited, including USA, Britain, Iran, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, ...
More or less true. Mostly true!
Small hat wearing, Zionist, fucking shill. Spin your dreidel somewhere else
Angry little one-note fuckwit Jew hater says what, now?
Heil Hitler, SShole!
Trump 01 tore up an agreement in 2018 that was working. In spite of that Iran allowed inspections. Trump 2.0 went through motions negotiating a new agreement but in reality planned a sneak attack by IT. They killed civilian scientists and their families and neighbors. And to make it clear negotiating was never honest they killed the lead negotiator.
The hope is Iran will attack US military and provide an excuse to do regime change which is the real goal.
What Trump has done is shown the world he has zero interest in honest dealing and abiding by National or international law.
That agreement was a joke that allowed Iran to have nukes one day
That stupid, Roman wall, humping small hat, wearing an idiot probably just started World War III. I hope you fools are happy
are you insane ?
you do know that being an American is an accident of birth. You could have been born an Iranian/Libyan/Syrian/Iraq or any one of a dozen countries we consistently threaten
put yourself in other peoples shoes for once in your pathetic life. these people arent attacking us. we have ringed them with 80 military bases. you dont think thats weird? we have sanctioned them since 1980, participate in routinely assasinating their military and scientific leadership.
Look we cant be on on top forever. Rome isnt on top. Greece isnt on top, Hell even Britain (once a world power) isnt on top.
When (not if) we fall - the blowback is going to be a bitch
I agree with you, not that my opinion matters. But still it is a sad day, and granted all of the war and bombing that has gone on for so long over there I can't imagine what it would be like to be living there. I have seen some pretty hideous videos of the violence as well as other violence in many other countries, California😢
Lock him, Secretary Hegseth, and perhaps yourself, too up in the DC jail to await the arrival of Tsar Bomba!
Agree! I stand with the President! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
you're a warmonger and not very smart
"Are we talking about the same thing?"
Indeed. Bibi has been repeatedly warning about Iran being on the cusp of nuclear weapons since 1992. The list of presidents who had more patience than Trump who had more patience than Trump2 is: Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump1, Biden.
What a blind fool you are… get a grip, no correction, take your hand off it…
Tuff, but had to be done…or we’ll be here again in 5 yrs….
No one knows where we will be in 5 years - and Netanyahu has been spewing this same BS for the past 30 years. Absolutely did NOT have to be done now, and certainly not for your imagined inevitability.
Had to be done, there’s no proof that atomic or nuclear weapons even exist that’s absurd. They’ve been claiming Ron was trying to build a nuclear bomb for the last 35 years.
Stupid is as stupid does, my mom always said. Might be time for another MRA booster shot, cuckold.
BS. North Korea developed a nuclear bomb against the wishes of the U.S and has not used it against the U.S. - However, the U.S. will no longer aim toward regime change in N. Korea because of N. Korea having nuclear weapons.
Iran should do the same asap to protect itself from the U.S. and Israel. Iran would be wise to get a nuclear bomb from Pakistan.
Now we will wait to see how Iran responds to this attack, now that the U.S. is at war with them. One has to wonder how many Iranian sleeper cells are now in the U.S.
more than likely...
I don’t know what kind of truth you’re seeking, but it sounds like bullshit to me
Mental dwarfism is just like this...
Yes, it's still a sad day. Stephenville Texas
5yrs? He'd be damn lucky if its one year. They already have enough 60% enriched uranium stored safely away for dozens of nuclear weapons. Not hard to boost that up to 90% weapons grade.
No they haven't, they pegged it at 60% which is classified below weapons grade and the IAEA was very aware of it and monitored it. They could easily enrich that to 90% with the same centrifuges.
The US has shown contempt to the rule of law for decades and decades.
Ever since the Bankster coup that occurred with the CIA assassination of JFK. After that the USA became a Fiefdom rather than a Republic.
By the rule of law I mean established international law, this isn't left or right you imbecile.
Peaceniks are former Dems or libtards incapable of asking good questions but happy to
assume the role of keyboard warrior. Some of us have learned to trust the commander in chief due to his track record. Hang on to foolish assertions...
I wonder if you’d be singing that same tune if the commander in Chief were Obama or Biden…give me a break. I voted for Trump all 3 times he ran; I believe 2020 was stolen, but I’m still smart enough to know 9/11 was an Israeli false flag and Covid was a scam - all part of the plan to keep Trump from winning. But NONE OF THAT means we had to fall for yet another Netanyahu BS war. That man is evil and even his own countrymen despise him. He is literally headed to prison as soon as there is no “emergency” in Israel, so expect him to continue finding reasons for emergencies for the foreseeable future. Hopefully Iran gets lucky and he gets a taste of his own medicine soon. Then the world truly would be safer.
You can wonder all you want. I was never a JoBama witness unlike many fools.
Not trying to sell you another BN war. The fact that you believe that is the consequence illustrates myopia. Traitors belong in prison, Julester.
Does it fit?
You end by the stupidest "own medicine" comment on offer.
Clearly you circle the bowl.
My tune hasn’t changed at all - it’s just disappointing that Trump didn’t keep his promises to stand against this foreign war.
It doesn’t require any critical thinking to hear him say he wants peace, he advised Israel against military action, and even now he is saying he wants to talk. So clearly he is against the war in concept, but he is still allowing us to be drawn into it inexorably.
Do you not recall him “cutting communication” with Netanyahu ahead of his Middle East tour? He didn’t invite Bibi to be a part of that trip and didn’t visit Israel at all.
I think it’s pretty clear Trump doesn’t want a war - JD Vance reiterated that this morning as well. They don’t want a war, but yet we bomb facilites inside a sovereign nation and assist in fueling up Israeli aircraft as they assassinate the lead Iranian negotiator.
Trump knows what he wants; but so far he appears to be getting out maneuvered in getting it.
What track record? Trump was totally subdued in his first term by the Deep State. What's Trump done beside borrow U.S. taxpayer dollars to give tax breaks to his base, which increased the national debt.
Trump is essentially a buffoon who has been bought by the Zionists. Now he's repaying these Zionists back by putting Israel first, not America first. We can now expect Iran to retaliate against America.
He wasn't totally subdued he did kill the TPP, TISA & TTIP which the Deep State wanted, wanted bad. He did quite a bit on Energy/Climate change scam as well which the Deep State hated. Energy is important. One more term of the Biden figurehead and everyone would be suffering under energy poverty.
I will agree that Trump is much preferable to another term of the Dumbocraps, even if only because of the uncontrolled illegal immigration; but, I am hoping that he doesn't continue with the warmongering. However, I have a feeling that, when Iran retaliates, Trump won't be able to resist continuing in this war. He appears to be harboring a propensity for that macho feeling.
Definitely when it comes to Israel, he is owned body, mind & soul by the pervasive Israeli lobby / AIPAC like 90% of the US federal politicians.
Outside of that we can hope for continued restraint from Trump. He did a good one on winding down Ukraine. And Iran is minor compared to Ukraine.
I disagree with you regarding Ukraine. Trump has done nothing there but be a pain in the butt; and, is continuing to provide money and weapons, which prolongs Ukraine's ability to fight. Trump appears to have been briefed misinformation on Ukraine by the CIA. He thinks Russia has lost 1 million troops. Putin has had to make Trump realize that Putin's special operation is not going to cease until Putin's original goals of that operation are reached. Putin is not going to give Trump any say in how that war proceeds.
The tax breaks Trump gave in his first term were reported to benefit primarily the rich.
those who take their Programming from the Fake News Echo Chamber post non science thinking it intelligent
Do your own research, chump.
Kohmeini was, and still is an extremely dangerous person who wants the entire world that isn't Muslim to either be dead or to BE Muslim, and the people in his own country hate him and are in rebellion as we speak. What would you expect Trump to do? Perhaps he should go to K and say "Oh please supreme leader, don't make any nuclear weapons and destroy the world?" He's the CIC of the United States of America, and he knows EXACTLY what needs to be done and he's doing it.. and btw, this had NOTHING to do with Israel.. that is going to be dealt with later.. and it is going to be God's doing. All DT did was to protect the US first and foremost. Look at what Muslims are doing worldwide.. guess who is funding that chaos and murder? It certainly isn't Trump.
The rule of law? Iran funding terrorists? Biden DOJ lying to go after Trump, his allies, and even his lawyers? They even put Tulsi Gabbard on the terrorist watch list. Biden illegally letting in illegals to the tune of 30 million just to have more votes? Biden taking money from foreign governments? Rule of law?
He was within the law. As Commander in Chief he has a lot of latitude in what he does, including aiding an allie. The world will be a safer place without a nuclear armed terrorist nation.
one liners sound 'bout right and are highly endorsed...
However they are not factual nor accurate
Evidence convinced no fool...
Rule of law that allows for rights of illegals to overrun the US wit little recourse for citizens rights. The Follow the science that called for 85% of world population to be jabbed, locked down n wear Chinese made masks
I think the rationale was explained pretty clearly as to why it was done by a retired Colonel, Trump and Nass. It still doesn't make it any easier. It lessons the nuclear threat supposedly by Iran now but I hear it would pretty much be over if Russia decides to get involved? I guess the barking dogs are so trivial, compared to having the United States of America bomb three nuclear sites in three different cities, Destroying people? Their homes? it doesn't make me feel really GREAT. It makes me feel pretty hollow?
there are 43 libtards that seem to think your comment is accurate
Stupidity is just like that.
What's Wrong with the Government: (Explained.)
https://open.substack.com/pub/jamiea811023/p/whats-wrong-with-the-government-explained?r=2mxnno&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Straight out of Islamist propaganda
Here, here! And I am here for that. Done.
You do realize that some 30 million Americans never file a tax return each year, right? And they are never harassed like the 300 million who do. You might want to look into it.
Ii is incongruous. Bomb a country and then ask for peace.
It's peace through strength. Now the world is a safer place.
Now the world is a safer place? What do you expect Iran to do, sit back and cry? China, India, and Russia would come to Iran's aid, maybe there's an exchange of nuclear weapons. How is that safer? Wouldn't it have been safer to get the peacemakers instead of the warmongers $$$ at the table? Big money in war.
No country is going to negotiate with the U.S. - Trump and his administration are proven liars.
No country trusts the US, except for "mRNA shots are good."
stupid people offered their arms or even worse stuck it into their children
That is 100% on them as it was always voluntary.
Your attempt at sentence structure is sophomoric at best. Perhaps illiterate better describe the above...
I don't have OCPD so I don't give a fuck about sentence structure. Get back to spreading your ass cheeks for Fauci. I'm pretty sure he's a grammat nazi too.
All Americans are Zionists.
You just won stupidest comment of the day, congrats.
more stupidity from EP, you are actually the liar for asserting that DJT is a liar. You are also either a libtard or a former Dem
Why are you so ignorant?
Haven't you been listening to the many retired U.S. military officers and other well know analysts and reporters who have labelled Trump a liar? - Major. Scott Ritter, Col. Douglas Macgregor, Judge Napolitano, John J. Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson, Tucker Carlson, Jeffrey Sachs, etc.
I'm a life long independent. Have never been a Democrap nor a Repuglican.
and if you are a hammer everything is a nail.
I accumulate evidence over time before the preponderance of evidence forms an opinion. I do not need traitorous libtards to form an opinion for me.
For your information DJT is closer to your own affiliation. RFK defected as it is impossible to get traction outside of one of the parties. That does not make a person a devotee. It does allow them to reform as DJT has without question accomplished.
Have received well over a hundred likes to my recent commentary.
One of us is a fool... Just saying
Have dispatched a Mac truck to the Par'e residence. The driver has a harness and will help you into it. He is trained on skillfull extractions but of course it depend on how far the head has burrowed. Trust the extraction.
Was the extraction successful? Did the Mack truck arrive as scheduled??
Not only Trump but past administrations as well. Remember then Secretary of State Baker’s “NATO will not expand one inch eastward” promise to Gorbachev in 1990 while steadily doing just that since, culminating in the US provoked Russia-Ukraine war when the admission of Ukraine to NATO would put missiles on Russia’s border.
Yes. I remember it well; but, our MacDonald's-chomping Trump likely has no knowledge of it; and, none of his controllers are about to tell him of it.
Libtardia, and the Derangement Syndrome on full display
15 clueless people agree with you Ed, do continue to expose all
Oink just Oink
DJT is the Art of the Deal person. Recently re the tariffs EVERY country clamored to negotiate. Your assertions are that of a fool with tertiary Derangement Syndrome.
maybees do not matter with decisions like this
Strongly suspect it is a hit and run operation and not a hit and wait for
retaliation...
Hit and run? Seriously? Trump just told the world what the US did. You suppose maybe we'll be a target? You suppose that the Islamic world might hate America even more?
That ... president (I refrain from cursing) has put the world in a dangerous position and played right into the hands of the globalists. And I supported him. No more.
No I do not suppose that, and question your reasoning skills.
However keyboard warriors are not hesitant to suggest what should happen with no real information.
The radical Islamic world hated this country long before they heard of DJT.
It is only about 30 % of Iran, reread and do no assume!!
Further is it hardly about offending Islamic extremists it is about freeing the people of Iran who celebrated the precision stikes taking out the installed puppets controlling the country.
I suggest you listen to the two interviews of people who know what they're talking about regarding Iran and Israel, that Celia Farber posted a few days ago. https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/adults-in-the-room-two-grounding
Then maybe you can get some "real information," as you say.
Trump's been accepting hundreds of million of dollars from people who are aligned with the globalists...he's owned by them and is repaying those debts. Most of us knew this; but, Kamala would have been worse. Our problem now is all of the ignorant, clueless Trump sycophants who worship him like he's their daddy.
DJT did not "tell" the world anything
He demonstated superior stategy and implementation.
Re read that several times . Do not refrain ask better questions.
Iran already said in advance that it would hit US interests after this happened. This will obviously escalate, as was entirely foreseeable.
and you assume they have that capability and that DJT does not know that? I find that a sure sign of slumber at the keyboard.
They have hypersonic weapons that have probably been held back for just this occurrence and US hypersonic weapons are still in the testing and development stage. You have to remember that the US is rank 31 for mean IQ in cross national comparisons which is nit much smarter than the Iranians who were at least smart enough not to use mRNA shots.
You are a simpleton. It is not Iran, it is the Iranian regime, that has held the Persians is a chokehold for 40 years. The head of the snake has been decapitated.
Any remaining tributaries will be annihilated...
the error of equivalency, though clueless people reside both places
yes most of the free world is rejoicing
Radical Islam just got served its lunch, 40 years of
their reign of terror is over
so far no aid forthcoming
soooo JR fearmongered on record
Maybe thou art a fool? Just saying
Maybe we'd take you seriously if you didn't resort to name-calling, a cheap form of non-argument that puffs up your own elevated opinion of yourself.
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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where are the keyboard peacenik warriors? have they fled?
where are all the fools??
ya think?? wait and see
One of us is a fool
Why do you brag about it? It's like the unique constitutional right of Americans to be sodomized, as determined by the SCOTUS in Lawrence v Texas. You can wave as many pride flags as you want but it is nothing to be proud of and the same applies to you being a fool.
Jim there are 27 peaceniks that agree with you! Do continue to expose all fools.
And so it begins ...
Another country has been dragged in and the conflict has escalated.
Iran vowed to strike back if this happened.
The world just became a much more dangerous place.
This is all from Israel's playbook. The zionist imperative has been itching to pull the US into a catastrophic war with Iran for decades. Israel's move is to start a way they cannot finish, and the risk to them is so great that the US must engage. It must be considered that if Iran does not retaliate vigorously enough, that Israel will stage (and already has plans A, B and C in place) a false flag attack. Most likely a missile attack on US bases, or US ships - and blame Iran for it. Currently a huge portion of the US fleet is within range of Israeli missiles. Or torpedoes perhaps. If they do this it will go down in history as the Sitting Duck strategy. December 7, 1942 all over again. Iran has shown restraint so far. They actually have already defeated Israel, and could have done much more damage. There is no upside for Iran to be at war with Israel, or the US for that matter. This war is one that only Israel wants. We must stay out of it.
There's a reason why Isreal is being saved for last. Do you not think Trump doesn't know about Netanyahu for years? He compitulated to Trump back in his first term. 😉
Netanyahu looks different, Putin looks different, and if people couldn't tell that was a fake Biden the last four years, then people need to get their eyes examined. Things are NOT what they seem. 😉
it already began, it may be finished
Time will tell
You're an idiot.
Iran is now fully justified in hitting US bases and ships! That's the law!
We can bomb them … they don’t get to bomb us
When you are in violation of a treaty you signed, yes we can attack you. There a consequences- just ask Iraq.
Really ?? what law are you citing??
National security is the issue, why would you assume otherwise?
Based on what evidence? Did you suffer from Derangement Syndrome or are
you still a patient?
Rachel Madcow has already started her fear mongering, lol. Let's see what the 4 am talking point will be. 😂🤣
Iran has ALREADY done this you dufus. You must have an IQ of zero.
They do not have much of anything left. What Isreal took care of is what allowed us to go in this way.
Iran has plenty of weapons and no one in the Middle-East should trust the US or Israel. Diplomacy died with the murder of the Iranian negotiators. The Trump administration has a bunch of second-rate pinheads and cultists. People will more and more celebrate hits against Israeli and US interests.
Oh, really? The world is a safer place when muslims have poured into so many Western countries. Who do you think was pouring over our borders?!
Who do you think invited them in?
The US created the emigration pattern through its mass murdering of civilians in their countries of origin. They have poured in as a result of the destabilization in that region.
The US may be rank 31 in cross-national mean IQ comparisons but even Americans know this.
that comment takes the lead for the stupidest of the day, though the
competition is fierce
There's an abundance of hard evidence.
According to an epidemiological study that was published in The Lancet in 2006 when The Lancet was still a reputable journal the US butchered up to nearly a million elderly, women, children and other mainly civilian Iraqis in less than 3 years.
The efficiency and scale of the butchery the US carried out in Iraq dwarfed anything the Nazis did in a comparable time frame during their occupation of any individual country in Europe.
On the day Bush announced the intention to invade due to alleged WMDs I turned to a friend and said "Anyone who for one nanosecond believes this bullshit about Saddam still having an active WMDs program is dumber than mentally retarded."
That said, I was surprised when the US did not fabricate evidence of them after the invasion like the US did when it framed Saddam beforehand with the forged document purporting to show that he had tried to purchase uranium from West Africa.
I was familiar with James Bacque's work, which was subsequently validated by KGB records after the fall of the Soviet Union, showing that the US intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around a million German prisoners held without access to the protections of the Geneva Convention in a network of primarily US concentration camps in Europe during 1945-1946 so I knew what the Iraqis were in for and the results of the study in The Lancet did not surprise me when they came out.
America's greatest ally is repeating with the Palestinians what the US did to the Germans in American concentration camps.
The Iranian people, who might previously have been pro-American will consolidate behind their leadership as a result of the air strikes that are taking place against them now.
Now, based on the lie that Iran was about to acquire nuclear weapons illegally, like America's greatest ally and North Korea both did, the US has struck Iran and Moslems will pour into high IQ Europe as well as the IQ rank 31 US.
The Persians have been liberated and have already "come out" in support of
the surgical strikes. Spoke directly with 2 today. Conflating other conflicts is broad brushing and inaccurate. No idea about the '06 issue you reference.
Definitely concure re: the Sadam frameup.
No idea what you are trying to convey in that last sentence?
You do not know whether the about to acquired issue is accurate or not despite prior claims, neither do I.
However DJT is no war monger by his consistent history for the first 4 years and brokering peace consistently. For that reason I trust him and refrain from being an opinionated keyboard warrior with only assertions.
And who did that?? 🤦♀️
You are suffering from fatigue, it clouds reasoning skills.
Fear not and get some rest.
I do worry that although I fully agree w this action and am thankful our pilots got out alive - nonetheless I expect cells in the us to begin attacking us from
Within
Safest place on Earth is a graveyard, unless you are still alive.
Safer for who?
Sheila England Shame on you for your support of western empire hegemony, Intellectual-Cowardice & murder of 100s of 1000s in Gaza & now 10s of millions dead in every unwarranted war started by Israel over the past 70 years of hell making as a colonial invader into the once peaceful middle east. Most of those killed are women & children along with men who stood up to protect their homes. This is the once beautiful world our cousins chose to make our foreign European colonial Isra-hell in.
FORMAL BOTH-SIDES-NOW, EQUAL-TIME, RECORDED & PUBLISHED DIALOGUE ALTERNATIVE TO KILLING WAR The Holiness of Palestine-Israel LAND-BRIDGE between the Mega-Continents of EurAsia & Africa has been in its peoples' stewardship with long welcoming reception & economic inclusion as hosts to the inevitable traveler, trades-person & refugee. Given the movement of peoples between the Mega-Continents & re-affirmed by UNESCO's 'Out-of-Africa' genetic studies, practically all peoples of the Mega-continents have ancestors who’ve lived-in or passed-through Philistine-Canaan-Amalek-Palestine over many millennia, perhaps least of all the Ashkenazi Jew who’ve invaded over the past 100 years. Muslims, Christians & Arab or Sephardic Jews were collaborative neighbours. At 1st Palestinians welcomed, included & protected the Ashkenazi (Some of my family in 3 branches), but soon after repeated land-theft & massacres by Irgun-Lehi, Stern-gang, Hagenah soldiers, Mossad etc. realized the conquest intention of the Ashkenazi.
INTELLECTUAL COWARDICE OR TRUTH & RECONCILIATION? European Ashkenazi could’ve & still can engage with their Palestinian neighbours & governments in BOTH-SIDES-NOW, Equal-time, Recorded & Published DIALOGUES in-order-to lay the foundation for understanding, collaboration, working-relationships & Conflict-resolution /c Palestinians. No bloodshed required. Refusal to engage in formal dialogue is intellectual-cowardice, although common in our western Oligarch institutional MONOLOGUES. However there is a problem of Intellectual-Cowardice to breach such honesty rather than remain hidden in violence.
'Indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') people refer to formal Dialogue as COUNCIL-PROCESS, Socrates as 'Dialectic-Rights, Mohandas Gandhi as 'Satyagraha' = 'Truth-Search' as-part-of India's 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'Indigenous' aka 'Self-sufficiency') movement as the Economic Engine which asserted Independence. Formal Dialogues or Dialectics mimic the functioning of the human mind.
DIALECTIC NEURAL PHYSIOLOGY Both eyes for example see in 2-dimensions, but the images are joined in the Neural Cortex for their differences in order to construct a 3-D working model of the world we live & act in. All senses of Smell, Hearing & Kinetic body movement from our 2 arms, legs & sides add 'dialectic' ('both-sided') dimensions to the world we perceive. When people are recorded & held responsible for what they say, reputation is put out into the public & hence becomes more collaborative & engaging. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
In human Psychology, INTELLECTUAL-COWARDICE often has more pull, than physical-cowardice, hence citizens are compliant & soldiers would rather be killed in a senseless war, than be embarrassed to have revealed they’ve submitted & are living by our fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') Oligarch system of dependence & lies.
PATHOLOGY OF OLIGARCH 'DOMINANCE' In our fake Oligarch system, the higher up one goes, the more dependent one is on the 'exogenous' (L. 'other-generated') Oligarch fake: Finance, Media, Religion, Education, Military-Industrial, Legislative, Judicial, Pharma-med & Agri-business COMPLEX. "Permit me to issue the currency of a nation & I care not who makes its laws", attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744 to 1812. What does it take to convince people that we 'subjects' live in an Oligarch 'designed-to-be' totally captured, inappropriately scaled fake 'democracy' held in a fake COMPLEX. "It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it", attributed to Upton Sinclair
RECOGNITION & EMPOWERMENT OF ALL: During all humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (L. 'self-generating') heritage worldwide RELATIONAL-ECONOMY, 10s of 1000s of years old Time-based equivalency distributed decentralized worldwide accounting system before Babylon. String-shell (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island - N. America, Quipu in S. America & Cowrie in once indigenous Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands) provides memory record, attribution & empowerment for every collective contribution, buying, selling, investment & exchange in the once worldwide ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complexes & specialized Domestic (mostly women), Commercial & Industrial (mostly men) economies. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy
REMEMBERING: Individual loneliness, detachment & isolation is built into fake 'money' (Greek 'mnemosis' = 'memory') amnesic Oligarchy's long 7000 year colonial empire rule since Babylon (5000 BC), Phoenician-Empire (4000 to 0 BC) terrorism across the Mediterranean & Black Sea regions. Their miscreant design is for dominance, war & destruction. Its helpful for folks to be able to go a step before the colonial Oligarch Trillionaire narrative & recall each our ancient 'indigenous heritage of 'community' (L 'com' = 'together' + 'munus' = 'gift-or-service'). Jeffrey Epstein as an Oligarch puppet, used sexual-compromise & reputation-fear to control $$ vulnerable Politicians, Bureaucrats & Business-people into Oligarch agenda.
"I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardice. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness." Mohandas Gandhi in Harijan, 15-7-'39, p. 201 Hence most soldiers, who refuse to challenge Oligarchy $$ & politicians, intellectually, are $$ compliant-cowards as are the greater part of the Mainstream war & inoculation compliant population.
TRANSFORMING SOCIAL 'MEDIA' (L. 'medium' = 'middle' i.e. 'obligatory presentation of both sides') FROM MONO TO DIALOGUE https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-communication-converting-social-media-from-mono-to-dialogue-libya
LEVANT BIO-REGION's EVICTION OF ZIONISTS (When life itself has the last say) Ashkenazi multi-trillionaire Oligarch invasion, genocide, occupation & destruction of Palestinian Villages, Polyculture Orchards (eg. Olive, Pinion-Pine etc) along with Biosphere-based Solar-absorbing infrastructure, replaced by Suburban car-dependent: detached-home, Industrial & Shopping Centre Solar reflecting Sprawl & Mass Highways has led to the longest drought & emptying of the water-table in the Levant region's history. Polyculture's nearly complete ~95% photosynthesis of solar energy into food, materials, energy & water-cycle, creates an energy vacuum which drives warm moist ocean winds inland. 60% of Moisture transfer from ocean to continent is through condensation of these winds upon quadrillions of square kilometres of fractal leaf & bark surface. Only 40% of moisture transfers as rain-snowfall. 2-D Agriculture only photosynthesizes 2-8% of solar energy, creating High-pressure airs which push wind from continent towards the sea, creating permanent desert. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/b-ecological-design/1-indigenous-welcome-orchard-food-production-efficiencies
stop with the essays that you cut and paste from somewhere
Cast the shame on thyself for disloyalty and posing as something that you are not
In your Monologues, you are not a 'Truth Seeker', as truth requires parsing through the rigour of dialogue, facts, figures, logic, emotion etc. Hence Mohandas Gandhi's 'Satyagraha' (Hindi 'Truth-search') requiring individuals to sit down together (or online) in the tradition of Both-sides-now, Equal-time, Recorded & Published Dialogue. Would your so-called 'loyal' indoctrinated 'beliefs' stand up to the scrutiny of equal-time or text? Are you so afraid of dialogue that you must use violence, like Mossad Epstein's Lolita-Island Trump & most of my cousins in Isra-hell? I await your engagement. When people are recorded & held responsible for what they say, reputation is put out into the public & hence becomes more collaborative & engaging. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues TRANSFORMING SOCIAL 'MEDIA' (Latin 'medium' = 'middle' i.e. 'obligatory presentation of both sides') FROM MONO TO DIALOGUE https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-communication-converting-social-media-from-mono-to-dialogue-libya
Blah, blah, blah. Thanks for the copy and paste that I scrolled on by. 🥱🥱🥱
If only such a simple minded statement were true. See Iraq. Do you consider all the American lives lost due to Iraq to be an ideal model for v2.0? Disgusting.
what are you talking about? You are assuming an outcome that does not exist...
I find disloyalty to be disgusting, disingenuous, and stupid.
Don’t worry; we all find your bootlicking to be disgusting and stupid as well.
Ne odprli ste pekel in vas in nas v EU bo doletel pogrom, neumneži zavedeni
Peace through strength sounds like a rapist logic.
Wow, aren't you a sad little hateful person.
When rejecting rape is somehow hateful, it speaks a lot. But some people with sociopathic aggressive greedy minds just cannot co-exist with others in harmony and be emphatic. They need to dominate through force and reject any dialogue as if the planet belongs to them only
you may be right, however it still sucks
Is that your idea of a joke?
Peace through strength? That sounds like a line the CIA, arms industry and warmongers out out.
SAFER place?
Jesus wept.
Beyond Orwellian. You people are clinically insane.
Sure. Now that Americans have become a target and Israeli civilians are hiding in bomb shelters, while civilian planes flying through Middle East risk being caught in fire exchanges. Thank you, all the vile stupid warmongers with luxury bunkers for endangering our lives
RIGHT.
Inaccurate Assessment. The country was not bombed.
Nuclear capabilities were destroyed. Do you not comprehend the difference???
Madness.
THINKING CAP ON PLEASE. praying helpxs
What an insightful comment. It shows critical thinking and not just buying all the propaganda, lies and official stories. Thank you.
a country was not bombed
Nuclear enrichment facilites were surgically removed.
I realize its difficult but try to comprehend the difference.
No loss of life. What is incongruent is your faulty reasoning
Cross posting an intelligent commentary, something mental dwarfs with "one liners" ought consider:
I think the biggest fear for most people, is that this strike on Iran could potentially escalate into WW3 or another prolonged conflict.
But as of now, Russia and China have shown ZERO interest in defending Iran or supplying any military support. Iran’s other allies are limited to Syria and their own proxies like Hezbollah and the Houthis, who are all already weakened due to earlier strikes from Israel and the US. Not to mention, they are all significantly outmatched militarily and rely on Iran for their funding and weaponry.
So as of now, WW3 does not appear to be on the table. Iran are on their own.
Now the question is, can Trump navigate this without getting the US into another drawn out conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan? Luckily, he’s already proven with Syria in 2018, that he can pull off precision strikes while avoiding any further escalation.
All of Trump’s messaging has been consistent that he does not want a war, and he essentially ruled out any talk of boots on the ground. Trump’s main objective is already accomplished with Iran’s nuclear capabilities allegedly neutralized. Trump has no need for troops in Iran.
So while I know many are concerned about this situation and the potential for escalation, WW3 does not appear to be happening any time soon, and Trump has a proven track record of navigating very similar situations without creating broader conflict or prolonged war.
The overall stance from Trump and his administration is that this is the end of a decades-long war, rather than the beginning of a new one.
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The implication of your second sentence is that Iran was peacefully at peace when Israel, and now the US, attacked it. I guess that’s what people here and around the world have to sort out.
The process should start with the basic principle that peace is much more than absence of war.
Well its down hill from here.. Netanyahu is laughing, they got the US involved in another war.. Now these EVIL people who are behind this can do any terror attack they want in the US and they will blame it on Iran.. This country just does injustice after injustice and never learns, so I am afraid what is in store for this country now..
And now Palantir has ALL your dara as well.
Who cares.. Man is not GOD.. You worship man I wont..
Vietnam Vet here.. Did not wear any masks or get any needles during the plandemic, because we knew from the beginning it was BS... You worry about man and his technology, he needs his technology to make him feel powerful, just like a wizard needs his wand, without either they are nothing.. Those who cannot create, destroy..
Clueless dolts took the jab, the stupidest of which stuck it into their childrens arms. There are still people driving around alone in A/C cars with masks on competing for the lowest level of stupid.
Unfortunately you are right.. That cook just died from a heart attack they said at first report, she had a couple of jabs and bragged about it on social media, people were posting she died from the jabs, then all of a sudden the story changed and they found drugs while she was in the SHOWER LOL, so she died from an overdose LOL.. Like I always say.. WE do not know what she died from but we do know what she did not die from LOL..
Thank you for your service.
Thank You.. Just wish the millions of doctors and nurses during the plandemic would have served us domestically against ALL LIES and defended the American People with TRUTH and stood up to LOL, just losing their Jobs by telling the TRUTH like us Veterans did with giving our lives on foreign soil.. Cowards all, have no more respect for any of them, except for the few that stood TALL and spoke TRUTH to ALL LIES.. Money was more important to them and their families then Lives of others..
We already have them all over our country.
there really are fools,there really are
They believe it useful to make downhill from here statements.
Why not dig a 6' hole and beg someone to shoot??
The terrorist possibilty has always existed. WTF do you thing the recent riots were about or the Summer of Love???
Heart broken 💔!
Disgusted, 🤮 again! 😔😖😫😭🤬
I agree. What a punch in the gut to hear this distressing news!
Because we destroyed a nuclear facility!? For Iran to use nuclear capabilities on us or some other country? It HAD to be done! The world is a safer place now! 🤦♀️
Uh, the nuclear weapon that Iran doesn't have?
pretty sure the threat was not imminent? Why would you say that without real knowledge? DJT has not done anything like this before. Why would he suddenly change course? Further if the past years did not garnish trust where is your assessment skills?
The real knowledge was gained by the people and agencies that look for weapons. Israel has used the same argument for years that Iran is getting it, getting it getting it.... RE: DJT, on which day did he not change a course?
So you say and believe. Nuclear enrichment capabilities are destroyed.
3 of them.
You benefit regardless of ignorance.
Conflating that with BN (not Israel) is disingenuous and the error or equivalency. Keeping fools guessing takes senior level skillset as we just witnessed for the benefit of all but mostly the Persians living under the Mullahs. Iranian people are overwhelmingly in support.
What else ya got? (Other than tertiary Derangement)
😆😆😆
Uhhh, that they've spent years building and were days/weeks away from completion? What a dumb comment! 🙄 🤦♀️
Baloney is cheap and popular. Israel has been feeding it to people for years. (Also preventive attacks happen to be illegal.)
who knows ? will not keyboard warrior an opinion however I most definitely trust DJT as he has not been wrong and is willing to make the toughest decisions
Nary a keyboard warrior has 1/100th the tenacity.
Have a seat, Dear; you’re embarrassing yourself. It absolutely did NOT have to be done - you have believed too many of Bibi’s self-sustaining lies.
Take your condescending a$$ somewhere else! It absolutely HAD to be done! I could give 2 💩💩 about Netanyahu. Israel is being saved for last. Now go pound sand.
Leave the witty banter and attempts at sky digs to others, Sheila, it’s clearly not your thing. Neither is insightful commentary, but hey, it’s your face - slather it with egg if you wish.
one person slathered, the one devoid of knowledge who was only capable of parroting the fake news echo chamber
Congrats on self congrats! To qualify for the insightful banner one requires insight that is made up of knowledge and hopefully some wisdom.
Jules did not make the cut....the bird went south
where did ya go Jules, find a new cause to champion without knowledge?
Has exactly nothing to do with BN. You conflate and blather.
The only country to ever drop a nuclear bomb was the USA on Japan.
Not North Korea. Not India. Not Pakistan. Not France. Not Russia. Not China. Not the UK. And even not Israel.
Nukes have become MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Libya disarmed and was destroyed. No doubt Iran will have nukes at some point.
The keyboard warriors have retreated in haste. They are searching for another issue to crow about with indignation. Thanks to the few rational people exposing the foolishness.
Lol, they're on to their next victim. 🤣
I had to get rid of two very nasty commentaries. I don't see the reason to be vicious, hateful and disrespectful. Ask a simple question and you get a mouthful of hate. You cannot rationalize with them.
Amen!
How is the world safer now?
Because you live another day?
I’m not interested in agreeing to a world where we bomb because they might bomb.
Why/how is that ok?
It seems to me completely added to say of the bombing, "It had to be done, the world is safer now." Funny, we've had decades of proxy war after proxy war, spent prodigious amounts of our blood and treasure on these military 'solutions,' yet our world seems never to be "safe" enough to stop what appears to be the goto resolution of all the world's problems, i.e., more war.
I feel less safe...
So you don't agree that Iran's nuclear capability had to be ended?
I don’t agree that that is even a worthy question to be asking. We don’t agree that is even the right question to be asking in these circumstances.
Megalomaniacs acting alone.
Tomorrow is not promised, for ANYONE! But WE do NOT wait like sitting ducks either and hoping THEY don't! Hope is NOT a method! 🤦♀️ Obviously, you know nothing about military tactics. President Trump has been saying for 10 years, actually longer that "Iran must not have a nuclear bomb", PERIOD!
Exactly.
What I’m saying is, it sucks that those who care to know little about military tactics,, and engaging with life always on the offensive- - have to reside in the same world with those of you who do.
You only ever think with your dick first and clean up the mess later.
Such an old and tired story you are proud of.
howz that roller coaster workng for ya?
Try waiting for information. Nuclear capabilities were taken out with precision.
The country and citizenry were not attacked.
I’m on skates, thanks.
You offered nothing new TS. The point is not what clean points they targeted and bombed accurately. It is, how are we still at this point in the first place?
Ask Obummer and his fake demented sidekick, Joe Blow.
It goes back much further than that, honey.
For some reason, this whole scenario reminds me of “weapons of mass destruction destruction”…that were never there.
Bush was a liar. Both he and his daddy were and are evil. 9/11 was an inside job.
No question.
In Izraela. Lastniki prvega dvojčka v NY je bil Izraelec, žid , ki ga je kupil mne več kot par mesecev pred napadom. In so bile slike kako so v tem dvojčku bili nastavljeni eksplozivi kmalu po nakupu.
You could elect Greta Thunberg US President and she would be convinced to bomb some countries.
Eisenhower was so right about the Military Industrial Complex.
I’m very sad. I’m no fan of any of this. I pray that he weighed and prayed about all of the options and this will now de-escalate. In the name of Jesus, Father God let it be so.
Please hear our prayers...Amen
Of course he did. 🤦♀️
Shelia, you have no idea what you are writing about. How in the world do you know he prayed about anything? You don’t. Stop worshipping a man.
Go pound sound, little man. Do you not ever pray and weigh the options that you are making the right decision, about ANYTHING in life!? What is the matter with you?? Of course, President Trump weighs ALL of the options and TRUSTS his team and if they say a prayer, great even better! The man has the weight of our country, the world on his shoulders! The man gets very little sleep, doesn't need it, unlike sleepy Joe. 🙄
It's about trust, and I have that trust in him. It seems to me you know a whole lot about nothing. 🤦♀️
And this is how those on the other side devolve into the same childishness as those we fight against. You disagree with the MAGA crowd you are a hater. No, I think with my brain. You made the comment “Trump prayed over his decision.” YOU don’t know that. Don’t make definitive statements which are not based in fact. If that hurts your little feelings, then too bad for you. Keep following in lockstep. Keep not thinking for yourself. YOU are no different than those you claim to fight against. You have chosen to worship a false god. That isn’t going to end well for you.
has nothing to do with worship, and everything to do with trust
Trust must be earned, DJT has earned it and is consistent
Your emoji says everything. Have a little faith sister. God is sovereign over all of the earth.
God is Sovereign, but allows very evil things to happen. Satan has temporary dominion on this planet to tempt and ruin those who Rebel against God. Trump may still be the better of 2 evils, but the name of God uttered by him, sounds as hypocritical as when the Bushes did. It's becoming more obvious why Trump was allowed to win. Woe to the US. Pray brothers and sisters.
I do understand that and why you feel this way. Evil is having its way. But remember, God wins this war between good and evil. I think we will be alive to see it. It’s going to get worse before it gets better as the old adage goes. The US plays a pivotal role in the end times and it’s not going to be pretty. We are no longer “one nation under God”. We are no longer doves. Got to keep close to Jesus, the savior. It’s the only way.
The Everlasting Covenant requires showing up AS GIVEN
One Nation Under God did not miraculously dissapear.
The Truth was never meant for the many, but the few.
But that is not the topic at hand. Demonstrate thy knowledge.
Evil is defeated by those that refuse it.
Inaccurate Assessment, hold thy tongue
Woe to a fool
Me too😊 You have Jesus. He’s all you need.
It's called "peace through strength" - a term that weak Liberal/Democrats are unfamiliar with. As demonstrated by Obama, pallets of cash don't accomplish anything.
No, it's called "the warmongers won this round." We need the peacemakers on board.
Trump has proved himself to be a blustering, boastful, braggart who claimed he could end the Ukraine and Gaza wars "in days." Didn't happen, and instead we get an escalation of war.
you have proven yourself to be a public fool, disloyal and traitorous
I express my opinion, and criticize the ruling powers. That's what free speech is supposed to be about: to call out bad ministers. It appears that Trump is one. Saying so is neither disloyal or traitorous.
the manner in which you expressed your "free" speech is both disloyal and traitorous as mentioned
Your attempt at reframing the blatherfest is also sophomoric.
Look that up yeah?
Iran is a CIA creation. It's being dismantled. That's not just a good thing, it's absolutely necessary.
The only peace that the United States brings to the world is the peace of the cemetery. Iran has done nothing illegal or immoral. They have been illegally attacked and are defending themselves because they are not pushovers . All the US does is exploit, plunder and murder all over the globe to uphold wealth in this country that doesn't produce anything. We are a decadent empire in its last throes. Trump is very much like Nero.
Very stupid comment. You conflate the entire US with the current president demonstrating a lack of knowledge.
You got that right! Screw all the liberals. They can run off the mouth all they want. 🙄
“ now is the time for peace” what a joke. i’ve been a major supporter of Trump since 2015. And I am not happy with this.
Should we have waited for them to create a nuclear weapon, and look back in retrospect? They were very close in completing it, within days or weeks! Trump has been saying for 10 YEARS, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, PERIOD! These people are terrorists!! 🤦♀️
North Korea developed nuclear weapons against U.S. wishes and has not used them on us. And, now, the U.S. will not attempt regime-change of N. Korea because of them having those weapons.
Iran would be wise to do the same.
Iran is not N Korea. The mulloughs of Iran were despised by Iranians who celebrated their recent deaths. Not their capabilities are decimated.
Iran attemted to employ your advice, they failed.
Iranians are now gathering in large numbers to support their government. Pakistan could simply give nukes to Iran. Pakistan has already stated that if Israel nukes Iran, Pakistan will nuke Israel.
Why not (let them have a nuclear waapon)? They are good people. If even terrorist Israel has nukes....The terrorists are the Anglo-American Zionist Empire. PERIOD! While the US, Israel, and the UK have nuclear weapons, no one is safe on this planet.
no one is happy, it is anything but a joke
Wait for information, it will most definitely be forthcoming
He is a a Rothschild puppet!
Stupidest comment thus far
LOL, the Rothschilds have been taken down. 🤦♀️🙄
In Izraelcev
This is terrible news. The United States is now officially at war with Iran. Iran will retaliate against the United States.
A war against Iran will impair what is left of the United States economy.
Furthermore, this will hinder the attempts by the United States to end the Ukraine war.
All hope is lost for the United States. This is a sad day.
And they have millions of muslims in place inside our country.
That was Obummer's doing.
Even if Iran doesn't retaliate, the CIA / FBI will likely stage a false flag attack on the United States, and blame it on Iran.
inaccurate assessment but worse giving voice to highly undesirable outcomes
Iran has been decapitated, it apparently had to be done. You or I am not privilege to the details thus a strident opinion is actually stupid. If you have no hope you are hopeless,
do not attempt to spread your dis-ease.
You are the one who is hopeless, Genius.
You are very foolish.
Truth Seeker, you are 100% wrong.
Iran does not pose a military threat to the United States.
For decades, Israel has wanted Iran to be bombed. Iran is an obstacle to Israel's Greater Israel project, Genius.
Furthermore, Iran opposes the Palestinian genocide.
By the way, Iran has a right to defend itself from countries which threaten its existence.
We do have hope being that there is a ceasefire.
I do not want the United States to be involved in a war against Iran.
Are you being paid by the Israeli government?
Are you being paid by Mossad?
Tell me, Genius.
Very sad indeed.
Iran is not the enemy of the American people, Liberman.
Thank God we have a president that stands up for us and Israel .
No. He's not standing up for anything; he's buckling to the warmongers. Israel started this: we should've let them end it on their own and eat their own cake. But the word on the street is that Israel couldn't stand up to Iran on its own, it wanted to draw US in and Trump fell for it.
Trump isn't standing up for us. He's betraying us, and the world, to the warmongers. This is disgusting.
and out comes a frightful keyboard warrior. DJT buckles not.
It may be disgusting but hold thy tongue
??? are you insane? "DJT buckles not" ... right. Blustering and bragging about how he would end this war and end that war in a matter of days -- 48 hours even!! The magic of DJT! A peace president! Finally. But now the warmonger buckles not.
I think a lot of people are seeing they did NOT get what they voted for, because people want peace and not war. Only the warmongers want war.
Cool down it effects the cerebral hemispheres. DJT has been the Peace President until very recently. What about that FACT do you not comprehend? Your assessment is premature as you do not have the facts.
Oddly that does not stop you from asserting... Hang on for incoming information, it will not be long in coming...
What's your real name, butt seeker? Why do you hide behind a pseudonym? You afraid of something? Me thinks your gonads are decrepit.
Fix your grammar.
Butt out.
I guess we can disagree while we still can.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. HOWEVER. Everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts. If you disagree on the war mongering or Zionists turning their back on God and in support of them any nation does the same, they lose the kingdom for aiding those against Christ. You would be wrong
It doesn’t matter at this point. People would be screaming if Obiden had done this.
the senile dotard did absolutely nothing
His controller did and nearly destroyed the country.
In case you had not noticed everything is alot better in a few months.
If I had voted, I would definitely have voted for Trump. I believed he was a good man, but now all that "goodness" is evaporating in the fog of war. This is insane.
He is a good man so your judge of character was accurate.
Not voting in an election of this magnitude an act of cowardice.
It is insane, therefor correct yourself and await further information...
no you may not and should not
Trump is repaying the Zionists who gave him billions for this election campaign. The Adelsons, alone, gave Trump $280 million. Trump is bought and paid for. He's Israel-First.
the 280 large helped secure victory. Favor it did not buy.
Clear thy head, await information and then digest it.
Of course it bought Trump's loyalty and favor. Everyone (but you, apparently) knows this.
one of us is a fool, yeah?
this sub is full of libtard fools
Hi dipshit. I thought you had died.
Either your bait is weak and reveals your imperfections, you're not Christian or just willfully ignorant of pretty much anything relevant. I assume you think Israel is our ally. Ok, I'll bite. What have they done for Us since 1954 with Our $10BN a year? Besides sink the USS Liberty when they KNEW it was Our boat and the Israeli skipper replied "I don't care".. We (Americans) are the SOLE reason the illegitimate land of Israel exists AT ALL.
So I am a Christian. How bout you? I hope so.
Standing up is not the best reasoning loyalties aside.
DJT would not have taken this action if the safety of Americans were not an issue.
There will be details incoming but only after fools play their best hands...
Still true—no matter who we vote for we get John McCain
No one was held to account for the 911 false flag and the ensuing "War on Terror," estimate of 5 million dead. This is why we are at this juncture...
and it may be that these events and many more are inter related
The same bad actors strike many times in many ways....
Stay vigilant, you have no other option.
This is true, Dr. Gilani.
We need a true spiritual evolution. All minions in the nefarious MIC behemoth should stand down. Don't participate in the slaughter of innocents for the plutocracy. Don't execute orders that violate the sanctity of life. (Rhetorical comment)
Well who is going to take the nukes from all the other countries holding them - including Israel? This smacks of regime change.
It was never about nukes. They were just a cover story...
Exactly, David 1260. There is no evidence whatsoever that they are attempting to develop a nuclear weapon, and if they did, they would be in their right to do so, like all the other countries that have them. This whole operation has always been about regime change, and not because they are "terrorists" but because the US cannot allow BRICS....it's about US world hegemony.
Exactly. It's pushback against BRICS, which just completed a railway from China to Iran. That offers a geostrategic alternative to the Straits of Malacca, which had been a a huge constraint on China's access to energy.
What's odd is Hegseth painting the U.S. in a corner by saying "This isn't about regime change." Where do they go from here? Either they've got some super duper secret plan, or they've just failed at power politics.
David 1260, this would be the case in a sane and logical universe ("Where do the go from here"). I have no doubt that they will use propaganda and rely on general amnesia in the public to trump up some other threat...If you look at the NYT and PBS and NPR headlines, everything is already being spun in ways that are completely devoid of reality.
The US-Anglo-Zionist Empire is in deep trouble and the train line from China to Teheran is the obvious sign of that. They have already lost Eurasia, and their deceptive, aggressive, and mendacious games are losing them the majority of the Global South as well, and therefore control over the vast majority of energy and natural resources. China has very intelligently built a lot of infrastructure in Africa (instead of building military bases and bombing the crap out of them, like the US does). The Anglo-American-Zinonist Empire's leadership is lost in dangerous arrogance, ignorance, and doomed entitlement. Pride comes before the fall.
what evidence do you have for that assertion??
Simple: The U.S. Intelligence Community reported that Iran hasn't had a nuclear weapons program since 2003, and wasn't pursuing one now. They previously had been in the JCPOA, which Trump cancelled, and have been continuously inspected by the IAEA. As signers of the Non-Proliferation Treaty--unlike Israel--they are entitled to use nuclear science for power and medicine. Except that Israel decided they didn't want it to. Trump did a 180 away from the negotiated agreement with Iran (that was an updated JCPOA) to the maximalist demands of Israel. In fact, Trump added that Iran would have to give up its ballistic missiles and unconditionally surrender. That's something no nation would do.
It's clear the U.S. and Israel refuse to allow Iran's current government to exist.
So you assert.Athough he has distanced himself from Is (BN)
suddenly it makes perfect sense to you that he would do this.
I study people very carefully. Character assessment is actually my forte.
Have not been wrong. Therefor am calling absolute BS on your simple claims. One of us is a fool. I find it interesting that so many have zero character assessment skills.
For instance many RFK devotees were blindsided when he joined team Trump. I was not, disclosed the obvious long before the announcement.
Not a single Beaconite had any clue whatsoever. Either these same RFK all the way peeps have terrible assessment skills or... RFK the "only" one who could save the county sold them out.
You are very likely one of these peeps and if so have very little credibility.
Meanwhile the people of Iran overwhelmingly support taking out the Mulloh's and generals that have held them captive for 40 years. The fact that Is benefits is not evidence for what you assert.
Making it a giveaway to BN is simple, as in simpleton.
I think it's you. Where do you get your information about widespread dissatisfaction with the Islamic Republic? John Bolton?
THIS just published by Dr. Brighthope of Australia
(not you Bolton assertion)
"Iran, she reminded us, is a nation whose people are shackled not just by a regime, but by the world’s indifference. It is easy, too easy, for foreign leaders to condemn Iran’s government. Harder is the reckoning that every missile strike, every economic sanction, often lands hardest on the backs of the innocent. Hodge described the impossible calculus faced by ordinary Iranians: how do you rise up when your revolution might end not in freedoms, but in funerals?
Her prose caried the chill of truth. Young Iranians, hungry for change, are caught in a cruel paradox. If they rebel, they are crushed. If foreign powers intervene, they may be obliterated. “We must live between bullets and betrayal,” one anonymous activist told her. “Between the guards and the ghosts.”
Good question. Two Iranian citizens living stateside, directly.
Two others from a trusted friend who twice weekly works at the Iranian's biz establishment.
But also several online sources seen inadvertantly.
Really we are discussing ideology and trust.
You clearly have no trust of DJT and are likely a liberal.
I am clearly a DJT supporter but a more recent swithover previously not wanting anything to do with political musings.
None the less you ignore the other commentary, because it is spot on???
what it smacks of is protecting the interests of Americans
Israel got a free ride... The people of Iran despised their gubmint...
and celebrated the recent killings
An ill wind blows.
As I wrote earlier from Martin Luther King's acceptance address:
“Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. I am not unmindful of the fact that violence often brings about momentary results. Nations have frequently won their independence in battle. But in spite of temporary victories, violence never brings permanent peace. It solves no social problem: it merely creates new and more complicated ones. Violence is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding: it seeks to annihilate rather than convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends up defeating itself.”
This will not bring peace. Expect more Israelis and Iranians to die...perhaps in numbers we cannot even imagine. How said that so many believe in the myth of redemptive violence. How sad!!
Redemptive violence? Redeeming what? Iran hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve "redemptive violence." They were unlawfully attacked by Israel and are defending themselves. Trump is a puppet of Empire. It's all about destroying BRICS and continuing the racket.
puppet of empire?? what an incredibly stupid assertion
DJT had peace his entire first term. Unlike his goon predecessors.
Iran had an option, they choose to ignore it. Bad choice.
There are consequences for bad choices. We are most definitely not privilege
to the details.
Please, please, please read what I've written. Redemptive violence is not what you're thinking. I've written about "the myth of redemptive violence" on another substack by Meryl today. I've written about "the myth of redemptive violence" in my substack. For God's sake!! What is wrong with you people? I in no way support Trump's action. In fact, Trump has unleashed hell upon this country.
Iran is a sovereign nation who has been wrongly attacked and vilified. Today's actions by the President of the U.S. shows that he is, as I said BEFORE this attack, A MAN NEVER TO BE TRUSTED. HIS NEGOTIATIONS ARE A SHAM. HE IS NOT A WINNER; HE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE GREATEST LOSER IN HISTORY.
These actions arise because HE believes in "the myth of redemptive violence." Not me. I'm pointing out the basis for HIS thinking.
In SHORT, "the myth of redemptive violence" conflates religious tenets with the very WRONG idea that "God" supports violence and, thereby, exonerates your violence. The myth embraces these ideas: "Peace through war, security through strength..." Exactly what Trump has done. Much of Judaism and Evangelical Christianity thinking is based on "the myth of redemptive violence."
https://medium.com/along-the-way/peace-be-with-you-6707d6fa5d76
https://www2.goshen.edu/~joannab/women/wink99.pdf
Iran was not attacked as the people of Iran were unharmed.
The mullohs were dethroned and their nuclear capabilities destroyed.
That is why it is time for peace.
Do not need your attempts to reference the Bible...
Excellent, Honeybee. Thanks for clarifying. I agree with you completely!
Expect what you choose, I choose other
DJT is no ones fool, Check a few more flowers. Violence is not an entity, as you suggest.
However it is sad, details will emerge. They always do...
Wouldn’t be quoting anything that the socialist MLK said.