Thank you Dr Meryl! I have followed all of this and heard the interview where the Breggins smeared Dr Malone terribly and I was in shock. Yes, they need to make amends! Then Dr Alexander took sides and has some other issue with the “backers” of Dr Malone years ago. It is disheartening to read fights among professionals while Rome burns and millions die. But you have stated the situation very well and thank you!
Alexander's accusations of "backers" is ignorant and uninformed. I have received no funding or "backing" from the bitcoin community. This is just yet another lie.
Hey, I did the same with Robert Yoho's substack. So many trolls writing their D.o.D. "5G U.S. military grade" bullsh!t these days, and it's not even that "good," hah hah! Too bad we can't dose the parasites with ivermectin and rid the blogosphere of them!
it is, but like all other diseases it has a REASON.... Neglecting the reason/s is idiotic, and those reasons have little to do with common man, but all to do with the powers that be and the violent gang that has induced this state of "mass formation"...
Dr. Alexander has lost touch with reality.. He has become so toxic and dark - repeatedly engaging in unfounded, damaging ad-hominem defamatory attacks replete with profanity and now, racist and homophobic slurs. Yet with his rightful focus on the poisonous vaccines, horrific Covid policies and the fallout we may never recover from
, he continues to defend and absolve Trump of all wrongdoing… as well as his own opportunity while a member of Trump’s admin to speak out.
It’s getting old.Now he’s dragged Meryl Nass, RFK Jr., Risch, Mehmet, Kirsch into it. Exactly what his Golden Calf does. Let’s see… Breggins or Malone, Mehmet, RFK Jr, Nass. Tessa Lena… I’ll take the side of the six. That I supported Trump sickens me.And as Alexander continues his blind worship, the fate we will all suffer is his to ponder.Trump is heinous, vindictive and cares not about America or We The People” . Only his insatiable ego and lust for attentjon at any cost
The CIA and the rest of the Deep State couldn't be happier with the divisions you write about. Thank you for bringing sanity to this attempt to split up the Medical Freedom movement.
As always Meryl is the most well balanced and informed voice in the room. I, for one, am so grateful for your inputs on this subject. Always spot on and attentive to the relevant details. Thank you!
It's all human nature but they forget that in different conditions us mammals act differently. Psychology is how the predator class has been controlling the masses for millennia.
From what I've seen of this, I agree wholeheartedly with Meryl's take. The targeting of Malone isn't limited to this circumstance; Berenson did it, among others. There's something really rotten about people that makes them target the clearly decent. I hope Robert and Jill know that many of us recognized this for what it was almost immediately.
A major problem on this topic is that if this plandemic and mass cull has taught us anything, it’s that no one can be trusted. The most genuine-seeming could be the most sinister criminal. Hard to know who and what to believe.
I’m not talking about friends and neighbors. I’m talking about politics, news, media, those in the public eye who say they are one thing but are another.
Oh, so what Corinne says just doesn't count-- as if any of that couldn't be applicable to D.o.D. special ops trolls....they're not anyone's friends, neighbors or family, ohhh noooooo: "We're Special" ;-)
Unfortunately, it's true. I'm grateful for you doing those good deeds anyway, and I assure you, they will ultimately be rewarded, regardless of the current flak. I'm especially grateful to you for coming out on behalf of Chris Langan's CTMU. The world needs God more than ever, and that's the battle we have to win if we're going to win the war.
PS
I made an amateur explainer video on the CTMU that got recognized by Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal on YouTube. It's not perfect, but you're welcome to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwgepVI98Hs
Berenson’s a little bitch. too.And the bizarre shredding of Mattias Desmond. Arent,Huxley. Jung, Pavlov, Milgrim. Stockholm Syndrome, MK Ultra. The cluster of mass shootings, the transgender cult movement,Holocaust, Marxism, Stalinism, Maoism, Inquisition , Ho Chi Min, Salem Witch Trials, gangs , fraternity/sorority hazings, Jonestown, Rwanda, Iranian Revolution, Fall of the Roman Empire, Heaven’s Gate,David Koresh, Charles Manson. ISIS. Choking Game. Covid hysteria and worship of the monsters who ruined so many lives Warren Jeffs Mormon COmpound, the Ant Hill Gang in Canada led by sadistic sociopath “ Moises”, Darfur , Idi AminUganda, lBaby Doc Duvalier. Pink vet Marcos , Farrakhan, Reverend Wright, Antifa, BLM, Weather Underground… famous novels and films- Clockwork Orange, Lord Of The Fles, 1984, Animal Farm, Network Wag The Dog, V is for Vendetta, Minority Report, Cabaret, Island Of Dr Moreau, religious fundamentalism, The Sinner, Brave New World, The Devils Advocate, Network,Obsolete Man, To Serve Man , political partisan extremism, Climate Change hysteria, eating bugs
Huxley described propaganda as convincing at least half the population that the other half is less than human
I have read Desmet’s book and was never under the impression that he blamed anyone for anything. I have no idea what started this spat between Malone and Bregin and I really don’t want to know know and neither do I give a rats ass what it was. But I do see people with influence taking sides and speculating about motive and getting all gossipy and judgemental and making the situation much worse.
I did have reservations once I got into chapter 8, and didn’t finish the book. Mass formation or whatever you might call it is clearly a real phenomenon and produced millions, maybe billions, of Covidians. I did however understand Desmet to say that the leaders of totalitarian societies drink their own koolaid, and that the mass formation is a collective societal creation.
I disagree with those contentions. Lenin and almost all the others knew it was about power and not the greater good. And the population has no idea that their leaders are involved in genocidal policies, some knowingly, so how can they be co-creators of this policy?
That said, I’m open to someone rebutting with specific quotes from the book if his message was demonstrably different.
Pre-existing bias. This is the same argument levied against Hannah Arendt by the American Jewish community. Mattias' work is an update of Hannah's work. And the same attack line is now being recycled against him. Arendt is generally considered one of the top political philosophers of the 20th century and one of the definitive voices concerning the holocaust.
Arendt would be relevant in this if Desmet had understood what she was saying. Instead Desmet takes her “ideology”— literally the logic of a single specific idea, as she herself defined in her book— and butchers it by presenting us with the ideology of mechanistic thinking. This concept is so broad one can spin any number of fantasies around it, such as Desmet’s central idea that Covid response was due to the impersonal steering of mechanistic thinking, and this idea then allows him to dismiss conspiracy because as chapter 8 argues clearly, there was no conspiracy and people who believe there was are psychologically disturbed. This IS his central point.
Criticisms, that's what they are. So what if they criticize you? that is called freedom of speech. You criticize a lot of people, and they are not suing you.
I'm jewish and I hear a lot of criticism of jews. I want to know who is anti jewish, freedom to express opinions is fundamental in an open society. I do not agree with the Bregins for writing about Desmet's brilliant work or with their attacks on you but they are free to write their opinions. Free speech should be absolute, and I believe you agree with this.
Yes, I’ve read his response. I don’t buy it for reasons I outlined in my own substack.
I don’t think Desmet is a bad person, nor you. But I also don’t think people are playing close attention to the structure of his argument. Something is very wrong with it.
This is the same argument deployed by members of the American Jewish community against Hannah Arendt for her 20th century work on the Nazis and the Holocaust. Which was the precursor of Mattias' work.
Desmet shouldn’t be compared to Arendt. Arendt is a profound thinker. Desmet is, at best, confused even though yes, I agree with pieces of what he says. People are seduced by those pieces without understanding the overall argument, which argument makes no sense at all. That’s why some of us are so dead-set against him and it has nothing to do with professional jealousy because I can see it but it’s a matter of logic, pure and simple.
Desmets wants to say and not-say things at the same time. That’s how people are seduced but the actual argument in his book is clear, even though disguised as doublespeak.
Saying and not-saying things at the same time is a trademark of psychologists. It comes with their professional duty to consider anyone and everyone as a worthy human being, a philosophical burden they had to endorse ever since they stole/took on the role of priesthood. That essentially makes them a bunch of money-making hypocrites who, bar very few exceptions, will always go with the flow, in whatever societal frame they navigate - from rubberstamping the transitioning of six years old kids to deporting dissidents to gulags. In that regard, Desmet is not even an issue. His one business asset is replacing the words "friggin' ignorance" with "mass formation".
Is there any possibility, in the spirit of good will, that issue between you and the Breggins could be settled in arbitration, in a mediated conversation instead of the courtroom? I think I understand why you have taken a legal route for redress, and certainly apologies and retractions from ill-considered statements are in order. They may come if given the chance. Things were said that should never have been said, but that genie is out of the bottle and a settlement won't put it back. In fact, a settlement and the legal maneuvering leading up to it may prolong the conflict, further muddy the waters, and make things much much worse in the long run. So many have been harmed in the last few years, in so many ways, and all of us have had our lives upended. We all still need each other and we especially need you, and others like you and the Breggins, who are in positions to influence opinion and elevate understanding, to set an example of how to navigate differences of opinion and resolve conflict. I'm in my 68th trip around the sun. I know how hard it is to turn the other cheek when wronged. But that just may be the prescription needed for the best outcome for all. In Washington last year you closed your address with that powerful and beautiful quote from Augustine of Hippo “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.” I would add that the truth will not forsake you and will defend you too if you give it the chance to do so, in its own way and time.
Dr Desmet came to Maine last summer. His lecture was right on the mark. I agreed with every word. And I read the book as well. It is brilliant. He never "blames the victim". He offers a path forward. I suspect the Breggin Malone street fight is just a distraction.
I have no idea where Breggins is coming from either. I’m Jewish and no longer recognize what were once considered “My People”.. They’ve become a case study for Mass Formation/Psychosis.Anybody who is not an antisemite is and those who are. aren’t.
They will emphatically deign Tucker, Giuliani DeSantis,Glenn Beck,Bannon,Trump,Bolsinaro,Larry Elder,Mike Flynn, Frank Gaffney,Devin Nunes,Ric Grenell,Rick Scott,Jordan Peterson, Jim Jordan,Jeanine Pirro, Lara Logan,Hannity,Tulsi,Asra Nomani, Ayaan Hirsi Al, Leo Terrell,Drs McCollough,Hatfill,Risch,Gild,Ladapo,Atlas,Cole,Oswui,Battacharaya,Kuldorff,Mikovits,Shiva,Yeadon,Jasser,Makary…. You get the point… antisemites all! Without a scintilla of proof,
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Their favorite doctor? Mengele Moreau Faustus Fauci
When people are incapable of free thought, instead, become a mindless mass of mockingbirds, there is no getting through to them.
what was 'mass formation' called before that term was coined? maybe crowd behavior or mob behavior, etc.... it doesn't pt to the perpetrators but to the victims as responsible... I listened to a vid with Malone and Desmet.... so boring and academic and thought this could never put any fire under anyone to create any justice
I suggest you read the book, because the juxtaposition you have created here is not accurate. Mass formation is not the same as mob behavior, but to the extent they are the same, you are incorrect that either is a situation where the victims are blamed. The issue is that psychologically, for very good evolutionary reasons, humans tend to group together. Often that helps them survive. But that means it is relatively easy to manipulate people with fear and propaganda if you want to achieve that effect. Desmet does not blame the victims--all he does is talk about the phenomenon and what made it happen in the last three years. Talking about the human tendency to react in a certain way is not BLAMING them for it. JFC.
nothing new in what he presents, just a new term, a newly spin turn useful to distract the public mind from the criminal and blame peple for their human nature and vulnerability to be harmed by those who know how to use this.... he's ushered out and given wide exposure... the sort of thing done by intel agencies to manipulate the public
This is pure ignorance and paranoia. The term comes from the 19th c. and has been used ever since by psychologists. Not one of them has blamed people for a human evolutionary characteristic. Desmet just today republished an essay he wrote in March 2020. I suggest you go over to his Substack and read it, because you clearly did not read the book. If you can find "victim blaming" in the essay from March 2020, then I salute you for your rich fantasy life.
I've seen it called "collective behavior" in the literature, though there are other names. Curiously, Desmet ignores most of the 20th century social science literature in favor of a strange mix of Le Bon, Hannah Arendt, and Solzhenitsyn. It's a funny thing — last year I stumbled across a book from the '60s called "Collective Dynamics" written by sociologists Kurt and Gladys Lang. The book is about crowd behavior, social movements, mass panics, social contagion, rumor, etc, and it's exactly the kind of thing you'd expect Desmet would cite. But maybe there's a reason he didn't: its development was supported by the CIA. What Desmet's theories around "emergence" ignore is that the intelligence agencies and the military's psychological warfare researchers have long had an interest in developing techniques to manipulate the masses. It's in that history and the ways the ruling class deceive us where I think we should look to understand what happened.
This whole thing honestly smacks to me of jealousy. If I had to guess, those who are attacking Dr Malone are envious because he is such a prominent and respected figure getting more attention and media time than they are. Who knows. But it indeed is a giant waste of time and completely counterproductive. Those who demand 100% perfection and purity of anybody better be prepared to have the same standard applied to them.
Well, and little people who need a lightning rod to ground all their "anger," which isn't, because they're very likely really trolls-- paid, or not-- placed here by eithr insanity or D.o.D./ Pfizer et al to make Dr. Malone's life miserable.
Thank you Dr. Nass. Beautifully said. I have spent time with the Malone’s. I trust them and am truly grateful for the sacrifices they have made. And I am grateful for your sacrifices as well. God bless you.
you are incredibly ignorant and biased in your comment. You have no idea what my consulting practice was. Or how I travel. Or my personal wealth. Or anything else about me.
Can you explain how a seasoned vaccinologist like you who knows about antibody dependent enhancement decided to get the vaccine after infection?
Vanderbosche knew the basic premise that getting a vaccine after infection causes issues.
Also, why did you know of issues for so long and decided to come out later after the train was already steamrolling into mandates?
I almost lost my job because people like you stayed quiet. I know people who are injured because people stayed quiet.
What did you have to lose? Your job? I'm sure you aren't living in debt like most of us are. We were coerced and you somehow knowing the issues went and got the jabs? It doesn't make sense at all.
Great. Next up, the nattering naboobs are now going to start blaming Malone for their own financial decisions that have left them mired in debt. Just wait.
all we know about your travel is what you tell, let's see...something about a yacht, something about a campfire down on the finca, something about fancy horses and a 25 acre horse ranch, you poor guy, what's it like to be living in poverty?
i would have given you a heart, but for the last word. i cannot endorse blaming pigs for any of this. they are some of the most maligned and victimized beings on earth.
Not saying that there are not many dark forces against you and your message but in this case, It just seems like you are going after easy prey, which gives off the bully vibe. For one, the dear Breggins who are historically guardians of humanity in the psychiatric field and have taken on Big Pharma and Jane Ruby, a lone reporting woman who just wants to get to the bottom of this mess. May God bless us all!!
The right to think differently is not in question. The consequences of thought and support of one theses over the other that carries so much damage is beyond comprehension.
I have followed somewhat all of these "experts" and have doubts about fidelity of their individual position on plandemic. Malone's backing of Desmet suggests that all this was not done intentionally and we collectively are responsible for the situation like the Jonestown effect is difficult to accept.
And Meryl's saying many PhD and MDs were and are fooled does not excuse any of this "experts" including Malone from the responsibility and accountability for the massive damage the plandemic causes. It also says much about the level of education and granting of degrees to these esteem individuals over the last century. But then Obama got his Nobel price. Says it all.
The fact is "the plan" continues and not much has changed with the brainwashing. Modified 1984 but the chapters roll at even faster pace than in the book.
The same people running the world with higher pay grade, more people are playing supportive roles and we the people, the simpletons are dyeing or being injured. Amen.
just making a distinction that might indicate something important as food for thought...... with other facts that could accumulate there might be something important to know or conclude
again, the lawsuit has nothing to do with the work of Mattias Desmet. This is deflection. A strawman argument. The lawsuit is about a last ditch effort to stop repeated, ongoing malicious defamation.
Wow! What civilized person talks like this when criticizing other’s positions Hedgewood? I feel sorry that you’ve been put through this grinder Dr. Malone. My heart is sad about all the wonderful people trying to push back the darkness and then this sad situation occurring. Praying for healing and forgiveness for all. Take care.
Very well said and I have read books of all three. They all have valid things to say. I don't understand the necessity of criticizing the concept of "mass formation." It is unlikely that a judge will grant a victory to a public figure on such an issue. Just a lot of wasted time an energy when the real villains are still killing people with their jabs and the media is covering the scam up.
You, according to Desmet, are a conspiracy theorist and therefore should be handled psychologically. Conspiracy theorists are dangerous.
It’s absolutely astonishing to me that people can read Desmet and yet not understand what he says so clearly, but this is because it’s cloaked in doublespeak. Look beyond the doublespeak.
I don’t mind being called a conspiracy theorist, that’s just a nasty word for people that understand the truth I’ve been a conspiracy theorist all my life started out when I was a kid and figured out the Vietnam war was a scam
I think what jim was getting at is that the real villains and criminals you speak of with concern, are dismissed by desmet as just figments of the imagination of conspiracy theorists, who are unwell people. And maybe that Malone by extension supports this thesis. And that's why the thesis should be challenged
OK, now I understand, but when I read Desmet, I didn't get the idea that his perception of "mass formation" required or even necessarily implied that the intellectual stimulus of the mass formation did not exist. I don't see why the concept of mass formation implies that the stimulus is imaginary.
I love Catherine and have learned immensely from her. I also have learned life altering things from Peter Breggin. When I first read the Breggins' attacks on Malone I thought they were extreme and unfounded. I was confused that Catherine defended him. I like your article and agree completely with your conclusions. I hope they stop attacking each other soon.
Malone has never attacked the Bregginses. All he has done is over and over patiently answer all the claims they've made about him. It was a long time before he filed the lawsuit, and it is not about money, but getting them to stop defaming him, which they are doing to get attention.
They are doing it to dilute his influence. I can see no good reason and the most likely is that they are getting paid or played to speak ill of him for flimsy reasons.
The book was a pamphlet. The first author was Jill. It was general SARS infectious virus preparedness information, urging people not to panic. It was marketed more in England than in the US because they were hit earlier than we were. I am perfectly familiar with the chronology of events. The Chinese claimed the virus took hold late in 2019, but we now know it was earlier. The intelligence and scientific communities were well aware of it by December. The fact that Jill's pamphlet came out in February is a non-issue. And the fact that you don't believe COVID is a real virus is an issue between you and your brain.
I agree with everything you've said. It's sad to see this animosity. I am surprised Catherine Austin Fittts got involved considering how level-headed she is. I'm hoping she and some of the others can sit down on CHD and put this to bed. I would expect Catherine to do the right thing
Hear, hear. A reflection my thoughts well said, thanks. I always felt mass hysteria. But others can call what happened however they wish. Watching learned people attack each other over slights is sad, beneath them both.
"But before I knew the regulators were bought criminals, I vaccinated an awful lot of people." - I was duped into the first two shots, as many other elders, because I trusted. Once data arrived, I saw hazards and refused boosters. My trust is gone.
Hi, for what its worth, having stood behind a prescription counter for 21 years, it is common feeling among the pharmacy community that psychiatrists seem to be both the most psychologically troubled individuals prescribing drugs and as a group sadly know little or nothing about the medications they themselves prescribe. This may seem off topic but an article on the latest school shooting in Tennessee off handedly mentions that this trans individual was going thru depression and was "under a doctor's care". OOh OHhh The alarm bells went off and my guess would be she/he was taking a witches brew of SSRI meds and benzos like Klonopin, a combination regularly "prescribed" by psychiatrists but almost always designed to cause severe adverse effects and dependency in the patient. The patients swing between anxiety and depression and BOTH meds have the potential of aggressive flare ups to suicide/homicide! Add them together and wow... you get everything from Columbine to the German plane crash in the Alps. We have known about the dangers of such meds for decades but instead of addressing them, the doctors brush them off and write more scripts for them.
So I don't know either Breggin or Malone but have seen them on videos and think they are both very smart, but feel the attack on Malone is more than a bit unhinged and makes me wonder if Dr Breggin all that stable.... either way it serves no positive purpose to the World at large but I can't blame Dr. Malone for taking it personally. As I once said "Nothing Personal" should have been the "motto" over the gates at Auschwitz..
Follow you here, but it's my understanding that Breggin, though a psychiatrist, has made his name bashing the use/overuse of psychiatric pharmaceuticals and has thus been seen as an outlier by that community itself. "Toxic Psychiatry" is one of his best known works.
Breggin has a long history of provoking controversy. Back in the 1960s it was with an attack on lobotomy. (That he was probably correct is presently immaterial.)
Meryl, Malone started the Unity Project whose whole goal was to protect kids against these shots. I’ve never heard him say anything at any time that undermines the medical freedom views of you or CHD. He is, I believe an integral man and these attacks against him are sickening and childish. Gayln Perry,MD
Meryl, I highly recommend reading this substack by Dr. Paul Alexander about his own experiences with Dr. Malone, Dr. Cole, Dr. McCullough, the Breggins, and others in the truth movement. No one else is dividing the movement more than Malone has. The lawsuit should be a huge red flag for everyone.
If that's the case, then have a public discussion about it. I'm sure all of us would like to see this movement united instead of divided.
As many others have also requested, please just drop the lawsuit and have a conversation with the Breggins like grown adults. It is the easiest way to clear all of this up instead of this constant back and forth. What kind of example do you think you're setting by suing the Breggins for $25 million?
Thank you Dr Meryl! I have followed all of this and heard the interview where the Breggins smeared Dr Malone terribly and I was in shock. Yes, they need to make amends! Then Dr Alexander took sides and has some other issue with the “backers” of Dr Malone years ago. It is disheartening to read fights among professionals while Rome burns and millions die. But you have stated the situation very well and thank you!
Well said Judy. I couldn't agree more.
Same here!
Alexander's accusations of "backers" is ignorant and uninformed. I have received no funding or "backing" from the bitcoin community. This is just yet another lie.
Dr. Alexander has become so toxic that I ended my subscription to his newsletter. But not before blasting him in a line item rant.
I ended my subscription to dr Alexander’s newsletter too. The language and the rant was disgraceful. No facts at all.
Hey, I did the same with Robert Yoho's substack. So many trolls writing their D.o.D. "5G U.S. military grade" bullsh!t these days, and it's not even that "good," hah hah! Too bad we can't dose the parasites with ivermectin and rid the blogosphere of them!
Alexander is out of his effing mind. Empirical proof that Mass Formation/Psychosis is not a theory. It’s a proven fact!
it is, but like all other diseases it has a REASON.... Neglecting the reason/s is idiotic, and those reasons have little to do with common man, but all to do with the powers that be and the violent gang that has induced this state of "mass formation"...
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Is Dr. Paul Alexander lying about Malone's backings then? He and others seemed legitimately concerned about Malone's ties.
yes he is. And about many other things also.
Dr. Malone: Do you have any thoughts about valid detox protocols?
And also about the existence of LNP, GO, venoms and whatever else is said to be in the Covid19 vaccines?
Is it possible once injected, transmitted and/or virally infected there are ways to purge the various toxins from the human or animal body?
FYI Dr. Malone had ZERO to do with inventing the spike protein. You'll have to talk to Ralph Baric about that, hah hah haaah!
There are docs out there that talk about detoxing the spike protein, I've seen posts. But you'll need to do your research.
Curious about the Crypto story???
I have received no money (or crypto) from the crypto community. This is yet another lie.
Who is funding your trolling bullsh!t??
Covid recover from ivermectin is really helpful. i suggest buying ivermectin online www.buy-ivermectin-suppliers.com is trusted source.
Dr. Alexander has lost touch with reality.. He has become so toxic and dark - repeatedly engaging in unfounded, damaging ad-hominem defamatory attacks replete with profanity and now, racist and homophobic slurs. Yet with his rightful focus on the poisonous vaccines, horrific Covid policies and the fallout we may never recover from
, he continues to defend and absolve Trump of all wrongdoing… as well as his own opportunity while a member of Trump’s admin to speak out.
He just uses everyone else's research to pump up his Trumpian agenda with endless spam emails
--neither republocrat nor demonican
It’s getting old.Now he’s dragged Meryl Nass, RFK Jr., Risch, Mehmet, Kirsch into it. Exactly what his Golden Calf does. Let’s see… Breggins or Malone, Mehmet, RFK Jr, Nass. Tessa Lena… I’ll take the side of the six. That I supported Trump sickens me.And as Alexander continues his blind worship, the fate we will all suffer is his to ponder.Trump is heinous, vindictive and cares not about America or We The People” . Only his insatiable ego and lust for attentjon at any cost
Agree Judy D … the divisiveness needs to stop. Respect differences of opinion… 🙏
The CIA and the rest of the Deep State couldn't be happier with the divisions you write about. Thank you for bringing sanity to this attempt to split up the Medical Freedom movement.
As always Meryl is the most well balanced and informed voice in the room. I, for one, am so grateful for your inputs on this subject. Always spot on and attentive to the relevant details. Thank you!
May you have a peace-filled weekend ahead...
Meryl is lovely. The yin to Neil Oliver’s yang . Shelter in a storm
Uniting is a control system to silence opposing voices.
https://miriaf.co.uk/do-i-want-to-divide-the-movement-absolutely/
Yes! Worth reading all of Miri's articles.
they have so many ways... they are professional and have been studying human nature for generations and how to manipulate it
It's all human nature but they forget that in different conditions us mammals act differently. Psychology is how the predator class has been controlling the masses for millennia.
https://robc137.substack.com/p/the-milgram-experiment-and-how-we
they've dumbed us down so society as a whole is more naive and vulnerable to their psychologicl attacks.... 24/7 electronic propaganda
In some ways yes, in other ways no.
The propaganda that was 24/7 decades ago was only from TV, newspapers, and the radio.
Now we have a lot more noise in the signal that they're anplifying onto us.
Notice how there's a lot more conspiracy theories getting media attention?
You can only fool people with trauma once in a while, keep repeating it and it ends up going numb to it.
I think that's why they wanted to pretend they were coming clean with the Twitter files haha.
a lot have tuned out because they really can't sort out the facts from the fiction.... which probably emboldens our enemies
No, the Twitter files EXPOSED "Their" bullsh!t goings-on. Read Matt Taibbi. Gawd, but you D.o.D. guys ARE getting stupider 🤭🤭
Ppl, there's some things to think about in that link.
Question is, what to do with "united we stand, divided we fall"?
Whaaaat??? That's just crazy.
happened just by chance?
From what I've seen of this, I agree wholeheartedly with Meryl's take. The targeting of Malone isn't limited to this circumstance; Berenson did it, among others. There's something really rotten about people that makes them target the clearly decent. I hope Robert and Jill know that many of us recognized this for what it was almost immediately.
A major problem on this topic is that if this plandemic and mass cull has taught us anything, it’s that no one can be trusted. The most genuine-seeming could be the most sinister criminal. Hard to know who and what to believe.
Honest people can be trusted. Fortify your discernment!
“You will know them by their fruits.”
I’m not talking about friends and neighbors. I’m talking about politics, news, media, those in the public eye who say they are one thing but are another.
Oh, so what Corinne says just doesn't count-- as if any of that couldn't be applicable to D.o.D. special ops trolls....they're not anyone's friends, neighbors or family, ohhh noooooo: "We're Special" ;-)
You're either a bored teenager or just a plain old idiot. Go troll somewhere else you moron.
"No one can be trusted."
Nope. NOT "true." Statements like that are just more disinformation. This is the 2% bullshit in the 98% ice cream.
You've missed the point. Go back to sleep.
Woe unto the 'clearly decent' and the 'dearly cleaved' to...
common DC saying - "no good deed will go unpunished".
Unfortunately, it's true. I'm grateful for you doing those good deeds anyway, and I assure you, they will ultimately be rewarded, regardless of the current flak. I'm especially grateful to you for coming out on behalf of Chris Langan's CTMU. The world needs God more than ever, and that's the battle we have to win if we're going to win the war.
PS
I made an amateur explainer video on the CTMU that got recognized by Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal on YouTube. It's not perfect, but you're welcome to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwgepVI98Hs
God bless you, Dr. Malone.
What are you talking about?
Somebody get the hook, please 🙄
Interesting read https://ia904609.us.archive.org/1/items/dr.-robert-malone-dark-vaccine-wizard/DR.%20ROBERT%20MALONE%20-%20DARK%20VACCINE%20WIZARD.pdf
very interesting
Oh BEHAVE, Troll 🙄
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Huxley described propaganda as convincing at least half the population that the other half is less than human
I have read Desmet’s book and was never under the impression that he blamed anyone for anything. I have no idea what started this spat between Malone and Bregin and I really don’t want to know know and neither do I give a rats ass what it was. But I do see people with influence taking sides and speculating about motive and getting all gossipy and judgemental and making the situation much worse.
Totally agree about the Desmet book. How anyone could think he was blaming the victims is beyond me. Very poor reading skills and extreme paranoia.
Disagree 100%. I’ve read the book carefully and took extensive notes.
Desmet’s is saying exactly what the psych-ops division of the WEF would want him to say.
People are reading the words but not paying attention to the underlying logic.
I did have reservations once I got into chapter 8, and didn’t finish the book. Mass formation or whatever you might call it is clearly a real phenomenon and produced millions, maybe billions, of Covidians. I did however understand Desmet to say that the leaders of totalitarian societies drink their own koolaid, and that the mass formation is a collective societal creation.
I disagree with those contentions. Lenin and almost all the others knew it was about power and not the greater good. And the population has no idea that their leaders are involved in genocidal policies, some knowingly, so how can they be co-creators of this policy?
That said, I’m open to someone rebutting with specific quotes from the book if his message was demonstrably different.
I’ve dealt with Desmet in some detail on my substack.
What is your Substack’s name?
It follows my name here.
Pre-existing bias. This is the same argument levied against Hannah Arendt by the American Jewish community. Mattias' work is an update of Hannah's work. And the same attack line is now being recycled against him. Arendt is generally considered one of the top political philosophers of the 20th century and one of the definitive voices concerning the holocaust.
Arendt would be relevant in this if Desmet had understood what she was saying. Instead Desmet takes her “ideology”— literally the logic of a single specific idea, as she herself defined in her book— and butchers it by presenting us with the ideology of mechanistic thinking. This concept is so broad one can spin any number of fantasies around it, such as Desmet’s central idea that Covid response was due to the impersonal steering of mechanistic thinking, and this idea then allows him to dismiss conspiracy because as chapter 8 argues clearly, there was no conspiracy and people who believe there was are psychologically disturbed. This IS his central point.
have you actually spoken or written to him about your interpretation, or read his responses to the Breggin's criticisms?
Criticisms, that's what they are. So what if they criticize you? that is called freedom of speech. You criticize a lot of people, and they are not suing you.
I'm jewish and I hear a lot of criticism of jews. I want to know who is anti jewish, freedom to express opinions is fundamental in an open society. I do not agree with the Bregins for writing about Desmet's brilliant work or with their attacks on you but they are free to write their opinions. Free speech should be absolute, and I believe you agree with this.
Yes. No reply.
Yes, I’ve read his response. I don’t buy it for reasons I outlined in my own substack.
I don’t think Desmet is a bad person, nor you. But I also don’t think people are playing close attention to the structure of his argument. Something is very wrong with it.
Thank you. It’s not relevant to the issue of course but I’ve never felt much warmth coming from Peter Bregin.
This is the same argument deployed by members of the American Jewish community against Hannah Arendt for her 20th century work on the Nazis and the Holocaust. Which was the precursor of Mattias' work.
Desmet shouldn’t be compared to Arendt. Arendt is a profound thinker. Desmet is, at best, confused even though yes, I agree with pieces of what he says. People are seduced by those pieces without understanding the overall argument, which argument makes no sense at all. That’s why some of us are so dead-set against him and it has nothing to do with professional jealousy because I can see it but it’s a matter of logic, pure and simple.
Desmets wants to say and not-say things at the same time. That’s how people are seduced but the actual argument in his book is clear, even though disguised as doublespeak.
Saying and not-saying things at the same time is a trademark of psychologists. It comes with their professional duty to consider anyone and everyone as a worthy human being, a philosophical burden they had to endorse ever since they stole/took on the role of priesthood. That essentially makes them a bunch of money-making hypocrites who, bar very few exceptions, will always go with the flow, in whatever societal frame they navigate - from rubberstamping the transitioning of six years old kids to deporting dissidents to gulags. In that regard, Desmet is not even an issue. His one business asset is replacing the words "friggin' ignorance" with "mass formation".
he did not blame anyone. This is a false narrative. Mattias has repeatedly responded to the Breggins criticisms in writing. This all started because neither Mattias or I would record a podcast with the Breggins. I tried to stay out of it, and just directed the Breggins' ire towards Mattias and asked that they sort this out between themselves. And then the attacks against me began. I recommend that readers review Mattias' own responses to these criticisms of the Breggins and others, and then make your own assessment- do his words and ideas merit these attacks: https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/am-i-an-expert-in-mass-formation https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/some-notes-on-the-tragicomic-attempt https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism-70c https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/hypnosedation-mind-over-matter-in
And most recently, a re-publication of a prescient 2020 article
https://mattiasdesmet.substack.com/p/the-fear-of-the-coronavirus-is-more
Is there any possibility, in the spirit of good will, that issue between you and the Breggins could be settled in arbitration, in a mediated conversation instead of the courtroom? I think I understand why you have taken a legal route for redress, and certainly apologies and retractions from ill-considered statements are in order. They may come if given the chance. Things were said that should never have been said, but that genie is out of the bottle and a settlement won't put it back. In fact, a settlement and the legal maneuvering leading up to it may prolong the conflict, further muddy the waters, and make things much much worse in the long run. So many have been harmed in the last few years, in so many ways, and all of us have had our lives upended. We all still need each other and we especially need you, and others like you and the Breggins, who are in positions to influence opinion and elevate understanding, to set an example of how to navigate differences of opinion and resolve conflict. I'm in my 68th trip around the sun. I know how hard it is to turn the other cheek when wronged. But that just may be the prescription needed for the best outcome for all. In Washington last year you closed your address with that powerful and beautiful quote from Augustine of Hippo “The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.” I would add that the truth will not forsake you and will defend you too if you give it the chance to do so, in its own way and time.
Tried, Breggins not interested.
That’s a shame. I’m so sorry.
When Defendants are not interested in mediation, that tells me something else is afoot.
There is clearly something weird going in with the Breggins from their very first public disparagement - clear to any objective observer!
They are digging in and it is bizarre.
Dr Desmet came to Maine last summer. His lecture was right on the mark. I agreed with every word. And I read the book as well. It is brilliant. He never "blames the victim". He offers a path forward. I suspect the Breggin Malone street fight is just a distraction.
I have no idea where Breggins is coming from either. I’m Jewish and no longer recognize what were once considered “My People”.. They’ve become a case study for Mass Formation/Psychosis.Anybody who is not an antisemite is and those who are. aren’t.
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Their favorite doctor? Mengele Moreau Faustus Fauci
When people are incapable of free thought, instead, become a mindless mass of mockingbirds, there is no getting through to them.
Well, at least SOME people are using it as a distraction, for sure ;-)
what was 'mass formation' called before that term was coined? maybe crowd behavior or mob behavior, etc.... it doesn't pt to the perpetrators but to the victims as responsible... I listened to a vid with Malone and Desmet.... so boring and academic and thought this could never put any fire under anyone to create any justice
I suggest you read the book, because the juxtaposition you have created here is not accurate. Mass formation is not the same as mob behavior, but to the extent they are the same, you are incorrect that either is a situation where the victims are blamed. The issue is that psychologically, for very good evolutionary reasons, humans tend to group together. Often that helps them survive. But that means it is relatively easy to manipulate people with fear and propaganda if you want to achieve that effect. Desmet does not blame the victims--all he does is talk about the phenomenon and what made it happen in the last three years. Talking about the human tendency to react in a certain way is not BLAMING them for it. JFC.
nothing new in what he presents, just a new term, a newly spin turn useful to distract the public mind from the criminal and blame peple for their human nature and vulnerability to be harmed by those who know how to use this.... he's ushered out and given wide exposure... the sort of thing done by intel agencies to manipulate the public
This is pure ignorance and paranoia. The term comes from the 19th c. and has been used ever since by psychologists. Not one of them has blamed people for a human evolutionary characteristic. Desmet just today republished an essay he wrote in March 2020. I suggest you go over to his Substack and read it, because you clearly did not read the book. If you can find "victim blaming" in the essay from March 2020, then I salute you for your rich fantasy life.
Whaaat??
look in a mirror for someone who is very naive....
go back and read his book... I reviewed some of it a moment ago.... what I'm saying as its used as a spin tactic is highly likely
I've seen it called "collective behavior" in the literature, though there are other names. Curiously, Desmet ignores most of the 20th century social science literature in favor of a strange mix of Le Bon, Hannah Arendt, and Solzhenitsyn. It's a funny thing — last year I stumbled across a book from the '60s called "Collective Dynamics" written by sociologists Kurt and Gladys Lang. The book is about crowd behavior, social movements, mass panics, social contagion, rumor, etc, and it's exactly the kind of thing you'd expect Desmet would cite. But maybe there's a reason he didn't: its development was supported by the CIA. What Desmet's theories around "emergence" ignore is that the intelligence agencies and the military's psychological warfare researchers have long had an interest in developing techniques to manipulate the masses. It's in that history and the ways the ruling class deceive us where I think we should look to understand what happened.
Yep.
This whole thing honestly smacks to me of jealousy. If I had to guess, those who are attacking Dr Malone are envious because he is such a prominent and respected figure getting more attention and media time than they are. Who knows. But it indeed is a giant waste of time and completely counterproductive. Those who demand 100% perfection and purity of anybody better be prepared to have the same standard applied to them.
Yup. Professional jealousy. We've seen it all too often. Our arguments become merely the clothes with which we dress our precious egos.
Well, and little people who need a lightning rod to ground all their "anger," which isn't, because they're very likely really trolls-- paid, or not-- placed here by eithr insanity or D.o.D./ Pfizer et al to make Dr. Malone's life miserable.
Bingo
yep- he's not 'sus' in the least - no more "purity tests"- instead, a new bell curve...
The Bible’s Commandments have this type of behavior covered.... I believe it’s that basic.. envy , coveting, false witnessing...
This and big egos.
Thank you Dr. Nass. Beautifully said. I have spent time with the Malone’s. I trust them and am truly grateful for the sacrifices they have made. And I am grateful for your sacrifices as well. God bless you.
Please, tell me about all about the Malone's sacrifices... let's see how they compare-
with the destruction wrought by the false narrative of 'Covid' and the havoc it has sown.
Malone is an Op - go figure... (legal parsing here-" IMO ")
Look, they had to sacrifice making more crappy vaccines.
They can't make money on that scam anymore so they gotta live in only one mansion.
Also instead of flying first class, they fly business class...
Joking but not joking.
🤑
you are incredibly ignorant and biased in your comment. You have no idea what my consulting practice was. Or how I travel. Or my personal wealth. Or anything else about me.
Can you explain how a seasoned vaccinologist like you who knows about antibody dependent enhancement decided to get the vaccine after infection?
Vanderbosche knew the basic premise that getting a vaccine after infection causes issues.
Also, why did you know of issues for so long and decided to come out later after the train was already steamrolling into mandates?
I almost lost my job because people like you stayed quiet. I know people who are injured because people stayed quiet.
What did you have to lose? Your job? I'm sure you aren't living in debt like most of us are. We were coerced and you somehow knowing the issues went and got the jabs? It doesn't make sense at all.
https://gingerbreggin.substack.com/p/could-this-man-have-saved-the-world
I have addressed this many times, and also wrote an essay specifically about this nasty attack piece. Go away, troll.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/regarding-covid-19-pseudo-mrna-vax
Great. Next up, the nattering naboobs are now going to start blaming Malone for their own financial decisions that have left them mired in debt. Just wait.
nattering nabobs of malicious defamation. ouch.
Hi,
I have already asked this in vain. Could you make your first book "The novel coronavirus" published on February 12 2020 available?
In the synopsis you refer to a coming epidemic.
I bet you have a crystal ball, right?
no, Jill does not want to do that because people will grab little fragments and weaponize them just like they try to do with my CV.
Publication date: February 2020. This is all what people should know.
https://rosemaryfrei.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Novel%20Coronavirus%20A%20Practical%20Guide%20for%20Preparation%20and%20Protection%20Robert%20W.%20Malone%20MD%20and%20Jill%20Glasspool%20Malone%20Phd%20Trade%20Paperback%209781648267031%20Powell's%20Books.pdf
You are gatekeeper.
a little like decontextualized fragments of rna, blown way out of proportion by 100% false pcr...?
;)
all we know about your travel is what you tell, let's see...something about a yacht, something about a campfire down on the finca, something about fancy horses and a 25 acre horse ranch, you poor guy, what's it like to be living in poverty?
That's why in the past, it was only the court jesters that could state the truth.
Everyone else was worried about destroying the movement that they invested in.
Where's the "thumbs down icon?"
i like your questioning. but not
name calling.
i would have given you a heart, but for the last word. i cannot endorse blaming pigs for any of this. they are some of the most maligned and victimized beings on earth.
Wow! When they round y'all up for Nuremberg II I'm sure they'll remember you 😉👍
replying to myself: "With great power comes great responsibility" - Spiderman
Malones book describes most of this situation
The lawsuit does absolutely nothing constructive.
I fear you are remiss in discounting lawyers fees, subscriptions, and "Gain of Go Fund Me's"...
;)
The lawsuit is a last ditch attempt to get the Breggins and Ruby to stop their malicious defamation. That is all that it is.
The rest is deflection and attempts to try to case in the court of public opinion.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/just-the-facts
Malicious defamation is wrong, and it is agains the law.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/purveyors-of-hate
Then why aren’t you filing suit against others having done the same?
Ah, the "peanut" gallery!
if you're not "trying the case in the court of public opinion" yourself, what do you call putting your lawsuit on blast?
You have my utmost respect Dr Malone. Stay Strong and may Gods Blessings fall upon you and your family,always.
Not saying that there are not many dark forces against you and your message but in this case, It just seems like you are going after easy prey, which gives off the bully vibe. For one, the dear Breggins who are historically guardians of humanity in the psychiatric field and have taken on Big Pharma and Jane Ruby, a lone reporting woman who just wants to get to the bottom of this mess. May God bless us all!!
it remains to you to prove defamation.
Deserves a million likes, thank you.
Both can be true. Psychopaths engineer conditions to cause mass formation hypnosis so as to more easily implement Totalitarianism.
I haven't followed the debate but children, its ok to disagree. Intolerance to those who think differently has really gone off the charts.
The right to think differently is not in question. The consequences of thought and support of one theses over the other that carries so much damage is beyond comprehension.
I have followed somewhat all of these "experts" and have doubts about fidelity of their individual position on plandemic. Malone's backing of Desmet suggests that all this was not done intentionally and we collectively are responsible for the situation like the Jonestown effect is difficult to accept.
And Meryl's saying many PhD and MDs were and are fooled does not excuse any of this "experts" including Malone from the responsibility and accountability for the massive damage the plandemic causes. It also says much about the level of education and granting of degrees to these esteem individuals over the last century. But then Obama got his Nobel price. Says it all.
The fact is "the plan" continues and not much has changed with the brainwashing. Modified 1984 but the chapters roll at even faster pace than in the book.
The same people running the world with higher pay grade, more people are playing supportive roles and we the people, the simpletons are dyeing or being injured. Amen.
Permit me to reiterate, please.
CHILDREN, ITS OK TO DISAGREE!
So, let them.
just making a distinction that might indicate something important as food for thought...... with other facts that could accumulate there might be something important to know or conclude
issues are reframed and terms are created to direct minds away from causes and culprits
again, the lawsuit has nothing to do with the work of Mattias Desmet. This is deflection. A strawman argument. The lawsuit is about a last ditch effort to stop repeated, ongoing malicious defamation.
and my dead mother used to wear army boots when she was not having sex with a goat, yeah yeah.
Wow! What civilized person talks like this when criticizing other’s positions Hedgewood? I feel sorry that you’ve been put through this grinder Dr. Malone. My heart is sad about all the wonderful people trying to push back the darkness and then this sad situation occurring. Praying for healing and forgiveness for all. Take care.
it already has. bob and jill wear brass knuckles under their riding gloves.
May I include a wish that Paul Alexander also bow out of this fight and apologize to Dr. Malone. His attacks have been awfully personal.
Pretty much daily since about last Christmas.
Very well said and I have read books of all three. They all have valid things to say. I don't understand the necessity of criticizing the concept of "mass formation." It is unlikely that a judge will grant a victory to a public figure on such an issue. Just a lot of wasted time an energy when the real villains are still killing people with their jabs and the media is covering the scam up.
You, according to Desmet, are a conspiracy theorist and therefore should be handled psychologically. Conspiracy theorists are dangerous.
It’s absolutely astonishing to me that people can read Desmet and yet not understand what he says so clearly, but this is because it’s cloaked in doublespeak. Look beyond the doublespeak.
I don’t mind being called a conspiracy theorist, that’s just a nasty word for people that understand the truth I’ve been a conspiracy theorist all my life started out when I was a kid and figured out the Vietnam war was a scam
I don’t think you understand what I (really) said.
Ok
I think what jim was getting at is that the real villains and criminals you speak of with concern, are dismissed by desmet as just figments of the imagination of conspiracy theorists, who are unwell people. And maybe that Malone by extension supports this thesis. And that's why the thesis should be challenged
OK, now I understand, but when I read Desmet, I didn't get the idea that his perception of "mass formation" required or even necessarily implied that the intellectual stimulus of the mass formation did not exist. I don't see why the concept of mass formation implies that the stimulus is imaginary.
Where did Mattias say that? This is called a strawman argument. It reveals your bias.
I love Catherine and have learned immensely from her. I also have learned life altering things from Peter Breggin. When I first read the Breggins' attacks on Malone I thought they were extreme and unfounded. I was confused that Catherine defended him. I like your article and agree completely with your conclusions. I hope they stop attacking each other soon.
Malone has never attacked the Bregginses. All he has done is over and over patiently answer all the claims they've made about him. It was a long time before he filed the lawsuit, and it is not about money, but getting them to stop defaming him, which they are doing to get attention.
They are doing it to dilute his influence. I can see no good reason and the most likely is that they are getting paid or played to speak ill of him for flimsy reasons.
Interestingly on February 12, 2020 the Malones published a book called "The novel coronavirus", which is now unavailable.
February 12, 2020!
And? Would not any scientist, especially a well-connected one, have known about this virus from December 2019 onward?
You mean $cientist? He got wind of a new coronavirus and quickly wrote and published a book about it.
You don't seem to be familiar with the chronology of events. There are excellent records of it
FYI. There is NO virus and there was no epidemic, it's a psy op. For what you may ask, eyes wide open.
Sasha published her distilled version of what some smart folks have been saying for 3+ years. You might want to read that.
Oh and you may want to read and listen to Prof Denis Rancourt too.
You are welcome :)
The book was a pamphlet. The first author was Jill. It was general SARS infectious virus preparedness information, urging people not to panic. It was marketed more in England than in the US because they were hit earlier than we were. I am perfectly familiar with the chronology of events. The Chinese claimed the virus took hold late in 2019, but we now know it was earlier. The intelligence and scientific communities were well aware of it by December. The fact that Jill's pamphlet came out in February is a non-issue. And the fact that you don't believe COVID is a real virus is an issue between you and your brain.
You seem to be privy to them and have read the book. I'd love to read it, do you have it?
"Covid is a real virus". This alone disqualifies everything you say. (I bet you also think that AIDS is a real virus too. :D )
You still have a long way to go! Good luck.
I agree with everything you've said. It's sad to see this animosity. I am surprised Catherine Austin Fittts got involved considering how level-headed she is. I'm hoping she and some of the others can sit down on CHD and put this to bed. I would expect Catherine to do the right thing
many of the Breggin defamatory pieces quote or are directly derived from Austin-fitts' writings about me, which were also unprovoked.
a very thoughtful and mature analysis. Thank you for sharing that with the world.
Oh please. Enough.
I have never attacked either of them.
Very sensible and even-handed, with a comprehensive background. Thank you for coming to this with respect for both the Breggins and the Malones.
Hear, hear. A reflection my thoughts well said, thanks. I always felt mass hysteria. But others can call what happened however they wish. Watching learned people attack each other over slights is sad, beneath them both.
"But before I knew the regulators were bought criminals, I vaccinated an awful lot of people." - I was duped into the first two shots, as many other elders, because I trusted. Once data arrived, I saw hazards and refused boosters. My trust is gone.
Hi, for what its worth, having stood behind a prescription counter for 21 years, it is common feeling among the pharmacy community that psychiatrists seem to be both the most psychologically troubled individuals prescribing drugs and as a group sadly know little or nothing about the medications they themselves prescribe. This may seem off topic but an article on the latest school shooting in Tennessee off handedly mentions that this trans individual was going thru depression and was "under a doctor's care". OOh OHhh The alarm bells went off and my guess would be she/he was taking a witches brew of SSRI meds and benzos like Klonopin, a combination regularly "prescribed" by psychiatrists but almost always designed to cause severe adverse effects and dependency in the patient. The patients swing between anxiety and depression and BOTH meds have the potential of aggressive flare ups to suicide/homicide! Add them together and wow... you get everything from Columbine to the German plane crash in the Alps. We have known about the dangers of such meds for decades but instead of addressing them, the doctors brush them off and write more scripts for them.
So I don't know either Breggin or Malone but have seen them on videos and think they are both very smart, but feel the attack on Malone is more than a bit unhinged and makes me wonder if Dr Breggin all that stable.... either way it serves no positive purpose to the World at large but I can't blame Dr. Malone for taking it personally. As I once said "Nothing Personal" should have been the "motto" over the gates at Auschwitz..
Re: SSRI’s. This is another great Substack author to subscribe to.
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/the-decades-of-evidence-that-antidepressants?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Follow you here, but it's my understanding that Breggin, though a psychiatrist, has made his name bashing the use/overuse of psychiatric pharmaceuticals and has thus been seen as an outlier by that community itself. "Toxic Psychiatry" is one of his best known works.
Breggin has a long history of provoking controversy. Back in the 1960s it was with an attack on lobotomy. (That he was probably correct is presently immaterial.)
Your parentheses do not hold water.
Is provoking controversy, in itself, a bad thing?
Meryl, Malone started the Unity Project whose whole goal was to protect kids against these shots. I’ve never heard him say anything at any time that undermines the medical freedom views of you or CHD. He is, I believe an integral man and these attacks against him are sickening and childish. Gayln Perry,MD
I did not start Unity Project, but I was involved in its founding
Meryl, I highly recommend reading this substack by Dr. Paul Alexander about his own experiences with Dr. Malone, Dr. Cole, Dr. McCullough, the Breggins, and others in the truth movement. No one else is dividing the movement more than Malone has. The lawsuit should be a huge red flag for everyone.
https://open.substack.com/pub/palexander/p/ryan-cole-you-took-a-shot-at-me-in
It is BS. When they start up with allusions to pedophilia, that should be a red flag Vee
So you had the conversation with Dr. Paul Alexander and others that were in Miami with Malone to confirm that it is BS?
It is total paranoid BS because he was excluded from various discussions. Which was because he is not an MD.
If that's the case, then have a public discussion about it. I'm sure all of us would like to see this movement united instead of divided.
As many others have also requested, please just drop the lawsuit and have a conversation with the Breggins like grown adults. It is the easiest way to clear all of this up instead of this constant back and forth. What kind of example do you think you're setting by suing the Breggins for $25 million?
The Breggins are not interested in a "conversation". Many have tried to intervene. You have no clue what you are talking about.
So if I can get the Breggins to agree to have a conversation with you, do you accept? I'll be more than happy to help facilitate this.
Thanks for weighing in. I don't have a dog in this fight, but Meryl's essay seemed spot on. I admire her work.
Your time is too precious for this nonsense.
Meryl, you would do well to interview Dr Alexander.
except for his 'belief' in viruses...
;)
Haha wrong substack to be suggesting such heresy! Meryl has written many a logical fallacy ridden article on that issue.
It seems the conflicts get even more confusing. Pedo stuff? DMED - The Defense Medical Epidemiology Database? Malone's company? So confusing.
don't expect clarity any time soon...
I have and still do...its filled with distortions.