There’s a better answer to this. Stop using the stuff. I haven’t used such nonsense for decades. My skin is elastic. Smooth. No wrinkles. My hair just starting to thin a wee bit. Late 60’s. I decorate myself in other ways besides cosmetics and shampoos and body lotions and soaps can be had that are natural without fragrances or one can make them oneself. It’s not hard. We The People are complicit in what is happening. We’ve not paid attention and have humiliated and laughed at those who tried to educate. We have developed an unwholesome desire to look forever young because maintaining some male (or femal) interest is more important than being oneself a d healthy which is always more attractive, anyway. We need to stop buying big Ag-grown food: pharmaceuticals; cosmetics from chemical companies; etc. we need to spend our money on healthy alternatives and let those bloody corporations know what we want vs what we do not. That is free trade and true capitalism. If we woukd just walk away from them, they would have no money and thus, no power. Because we do not, they do, and naturally, they are going to ignore the “rules.”
My friend in Vancouver told me had invested in a company that had a patented non-chemical treatment for bed bugs. The FDA was not even interested as they only dealt with approved dealers. They want us in fear all the time.
We need to learn to protect ourselves with self-education and voting with our actions and pocketbooks. Eternal vigilance compels the government to shift away from control and corruption. There are already forces carving out "new" govt P3 agencies handing over duties to corporate cronies. Criminal justice is at the top of this heap and the reason Soros funded DA candidates.
- PEG is now in vax, so allow PEG back in cosmetics where it was banned for good reason?
- Fluorine in toothpaste:
1500ppm F is common “dosing”.
Can’t read anywhere what amount diffuses insides mucosa and gets resorbed later. ZnF, NaF, all mixed, sometimes in one product. To enhance diffusability or what?
F accumulates and the poisonous dose is equal to the recomended dose elsewhere, in the same country, some get Fluouridosis from 0.1mg/kg, and it has NO use, need or beneficial effects.
It is a neurotoxin. Period. And more.
Our Elmex gelee has 12.5mg per gramm!
Given to our girl as she has some spots without enamel. When she was wuite young.
Now I wonder how to revive her amygdala.
I recommended to her daily use of inorganic antiseptics as oral hygiene and some Detox by healing earth, but she is deaf if it involves regular taking something…
There is a many years old extensive report on Fluoride detailing the damages but the government refuses to release it. They keep putting it off to “someday”. One wonders why? There are toothpastes without it. I use a xylitol and coconut oil one I get at Amazon or health store. I’ve used it for almost 5 years and my teeth are noticeably better.
Speaking of toothpaste, fluoride in toothpaste and mercury amalgams and states weren't concerned about our health. Earlier it was the Feds and leaded gasoline.
I'm told by a friend in OR that CA and WA have begun openly moving together in lockstep with OR on policy issues (regionalism for 4IR). I wonder if we're being trained to accept many new policy changes at the state level that would have stalled at the Federal level. Newson's ban on gasoline vehicles being an example.
2 good resources for assessing personal care and cleaning products: the Think Dirty app and the Environmental Working Group’s website and app Healthy Living. Both give ratings based on safety of the ingredients and explantations as to why the ingredient is problematic. Think Dirty allows for barcode scanning while shopping so you can compare products.
FDA and CPSC has many great regulations but for the most part they all mfr and importers to self assess. Enforcement only comes following a consumer complaint and the product is then tested by a law firm or retailer at an independent lab and then forward the complaint to FDA or CPSC for recall and fines.
I have always felt the burden of regulatory compliance should be on the retailer selling the product to the consumer. They can have the product tested. Some might argue thats expensive, but they can always pass on the cost to the mfr and consumer (deduction from purchase price and increase of selling price).
Mfr will always cheat. In many cases they use sub-contactors who will cheat them, its the Wild West. I kid you not, 30+ years testing and inspecting product made in Greater China /China for retailers taught me that.
In a lot of cases the tests done by retailers before being shipped means nothing because the mfr or agent sends a clean product to a lab where they are the customer, and the lab business is competitive. Those who cooperate with the mfr/agent get the business.
The only real way to make sure the product they sell is safe is to test product on their shelves, or better yet, test before selling it , but that can be a problem since testing takes time and you lose sales with the delay.
Consumers can always test on their own if they have the money. They might even make some money if they find out a product they bought is unsafe. Just find a lawyer and negotiate.
Unlike Pharma these mfr, importers and retailers have liability. Just go out and test this stuff and nail them to the ground and they will clean up their act quick.
I am retired so not pimping business for test laboratories, but thats the only way to keep mfr/importers honest
The FDA goes after the Amish and after supplement providers WITHOUT ANY COMPLAINTS BEING FILED. It's as blatantly involved in revolving doors as the CDC. There were complaints about the many more products FDA approved as EUA beyond the Covid-19 injections, and they haven't begun to take any action in the order the complaints came in. The Amish farmer from near the East Palestine area didn't have anyone complaining about his products, but FDA prioritized that over remdesivir and COVID-19 injection complaints which had thousands of complaints.
Up until the 1990s, the reputable retailers took back products returned by customers and dealt with the distributor or the manufacturer about product defects. Almost no retailer is willing to do that today, and they tell the customer to contact the manufacturer who usually blows the complaint off without making good for it.
Unlike drugs and vaccines FDA does not approve supplements or cosmetics. They do have general regulations regarding safety and they do approve color additives used in cosmetics. Retailers do extensive testing, especially on goods they import. They may require domestic importers or mfr to how test reports or certify their product and might do limited testing on high liability items on their shelves. This is not ideal since corporations are professionals about doctoring reports. However, since they have liability and are in a competitive pricing market they are more careful about safety than Pharma.
Many returns are quality defects that FDA/CPSC don’t regulate. Returns that are safety related the retailer is required by law to report to FDA/CPSC who will investigate and recall/fine if necessary.
I am not defending FDA and its revolving door. Its a political agency as much as a safety agency and they may pursue whatever they wish. However, its not their job to test every product for safety, nor do we want them to have that power.
Their performance in drugs and vaccines is criminal, I wont defend them there, and they could probably do a better job on cosmetics and supplements, and certainly with Food. But giving them more power is not the solution.
Consumers have to exert their collective power. We used to have consumer advocates. No more. Corruption like cancer has spread and pervades our society from top to bottom. However, consumer individualism is the norm now, and you are on your own. FDA is not going to save you. States have to lead the way if they are not too far gone....
The fda is going after supplements. I get action alerts quite often. My useless Senator Durbin is at the top of these bills to restrict our freedoms to use supplements. He was behind the NAC removal attempt I recall but it never really went away. This guy is way behind his smell date.
Simple solution. All organ drug/cosmetic makers must publish ingredients to blockchain codex. Makers must follow “do no harm” principles by helping fund independent research fund inspecting said products based on revenue. Crimes are punishable up to death but usually seize owner assets and jail owners for life. Is that enough of incentive not to dump crap into/on our bodies?
The FDA comes out of the Agricultural Division in the Patent Office in 1848, the roots as a federal consumer protection agency began with the passage of the 1906 Pure Food and Drugs Act. The Flexner Report is from 1910. The rise of the agency’s oversight over drugs closely parallels the rise of Rockefeller medicine and the pharmaceutical complex.
Gotta cut the FDA some slack, they’ve been busy focusing on the REAL danger: Homeopathy!
Ain't that the truth.
😂
The FDA might have a sweetheart deal with the cosmetics industry like it does with pharma.
"pay me and I is blind"
There’s a better answer to this. Stop using the stuff. I haven’t used such nonsense for decades. My skin is elastic. Smooth. No wrinkles. My hair just starting to thin a wee bit. Late 60’s. I decorate myself in other ways besides cosmetics and shampoos and body lotions and soaps can be had that are natural without fragrances or one can make them oneself. It’s not hard. We The People are complicit in what is happening. We’ve not paid attention and have humiliated and laughed at those who tried to educate. We have developed an unwholesome desire to look forever young because maintaining some male (or femal) interest is more important than being oneself a d healthy which is always more attractive, anyway. We need to stop buying big Ag-grown food: pharmaceuticals; cosmetics from chemical companies; etc. we need to spend our money on healthy alternatives and let those bloody corporations know what we want vs what we do not. That is free trade and true capitalism. If we woukd just walk away from them, they would have no money and thus, no power. Because we do not, they do, and naturally, they are going to ignore the “rules.”
My friend in Vancouver told me had invested in a company that had a patented non-chemical treatment for bed bugs. The FDA was not even interested as they only dealt with approved dealers. They want us in fear all the time.
ha, the FDA "approves" Generally Recognized As Safe status for all sorts of food additives that are outright banned in Europe.
They, along with the other alphabet agencies, are owned and operated by the companies they are /supposed/ to be regulating.
Is anyone protecting Americans? We need a new FDA and while we're at it, CDC NIAID and few more
We need to learn to protect ourselves with self-education and voting with our actions and pocketbooks. Eternal vigilance compels the government to shift away from control and corruption. There are already forces carving out "new" govt P3 agencies handing over duties to corporate cronies. Criminal justice is at the top of this heap and the reason Soros funded DA candidates.
We’re on our own it seems.
What lies ahead? Maybe:
- PEG is now in vax, so allow PEG back in cosmetics where it was banned for good reason?
- Fluorine in toothpaste:
1500ppm F is common “dosing”.
Can’t read anywhere what amount diffuses insides mucosa and gets resorbed later. ZnF, NaF, all mixed, sometimes in one product. To enhance diffusability or what?
F accumulates and the poisonous dose is equal to the recomended dose elsewhere, in the same country, some get Fluouridosis from 0.1mg/kg, and it has NO use, need or beneficial effects.
It is a neurotoxin. Period. And more.
Our Elmex gelee has 12.5mg per gramm!
Given to our girl as she has some spots without enamel. When she was wuite young.
Now I wonder how to revive her amygdala.
I recommended to her daily use of inorganic antiseptics as oral hygiene and some Detox by healing earth, but she is deaf if it involves regular taking something…
Problem is: F kills amygdala function, like spike and probably other injections (I suspect Hepatitis being just as bad. Just read retracted papers for uptake of eg autism per injection like https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674/htm or visit Dr. Thomas there: https://justthinkthepodcast.substack.com/p/dr-paul-thomas-the-real-story-uncensored
).
I more and more tend to mormonic life, and more and more admire them.
Toothpaste? Some soap and or baking soda will suffice.
Any humanistic intervention or cosmetic or medical product has to come from simple people, we have to teach ourselves.
And extend our distrust to caltured regulators working for eugenistic psychopathic cabal burning their karma forever right now.
Also let us train ourselves methods to do analysis of batches of cosmetics, brewery outputs (BG owns Heineken now; guess why) and medical products. We
since you mention fluorine:
I share this one whenever it comes up as relevant.
https://origins.osu.edu/article/toxic-treatment-fluorides-transformation-industrial-waste-public-health-miracle
There is a many years old extensive report on Fluoride detailing the damages but the government refuses to release it. They keep putting it off to “someday”. One wonders why? There are toothpastes without it. I use a xylitol and coconut oil one I get at Amazon or health store. I’ve used it for almost 5 years and my teeth are noticeably better.
The Act is also where the Emergency Use Authorization regulations reside. Totally independent of The PREP Act.
Very interesting, given that Kaiser makes so much money from Pfizer jab trials.
Is toothpaste still covered under "Cosmetics".
Speaking of toothpaste, fluoride in toothpaste and mercury amalgams and states weren't concerned about our health. Earlier it was the Feds and leaded gasoline.
I'm told by a friend in OR that CA and WA have begun openly moving together in lockstep with OR on policy issues (regionalism for 4IR). I wonder if we're being trained to accept many new policy changes at the state level that would have stalled at the Federal level. Newson's ban on gasoline vehicles being an example.
Would not surprise me at all
No thanks...I don't want the FDA regulating anything. They are worthless and anti-humanity.
Buyer beware.
Do we really want the FDA involved? In anything? Ever?
Noh. Hard pass. F those guys.
2 good resources for assessing personal care and cleaning products: the Think Dirty app and the Environmental Working Group’s website and app Healthy Living. Both give ratings based on safety of the ingredients and explantations as to why the ingredient is problematic. Think Dirty allows for barcode scanning while shopping so you can compare products.
FDA and CPSC has many great regulations but for the most part they all mfr and importers to self assess. Enforcement only comes following a consumer complaint and the product is then tested by a law firm or retailer at an independent lab and then forward the complaint to FDA or CPSC for recall and fines.
I have always felt the burden of regulatory compliance should be on the retailer selling the product to the consumer. They can have the product tested. Some might argue thats expensive, but they can always pass on the cost to the mfr and consumer (deduction from purchase price and increase of selling price).
Mfr will always cheat. In many cases they use sub-contactors who will cheat them, its the Wild West. I kid you not, 30+ years testing and inspecting product made in Greater China /China for retailers taught me that.
In a lot of cases the tests done by retailers before being shipped means nothing because the mfr or agent sends a clean product to a lab where they are the customer, and the lab business is competitive. Those who cooperate with the mfr/agent get the business.
The only real way to make sure the product they sell is safe is to test product on their shelves, or better yet, test before selling it , but that can be a problem since testing takes time and you lose sales with the delay.
Consumers can always test on their own if they have the money. They might even make some money if they find out a product they bought is unsafe. Just find a lawyer and negotiate.
Unlike Pharma these mfr, importers and retailers have liability. Just go out and test this stuff and nail them to the ground and they will clean up their act quick.
I am retired so not pimping business for test laboratories, but thats the only way to keep mfr/importers honest
Cant rely on federal government for everything.
Pete;
The FDA goes after the Amish and after supplement providers WITHOUT ANY COMPLAINTS BEING FILED. It's as blatantly involved in revolving doors as the CDC. There were complaints about the many more products FDA approved as EUA beyond the Covid-19 injections, and they haven't begun to take any action in the order the complaints came in. The Amish farmer from near the East Palestine area didn't have anyone complaining about his products, but FDA prioritized that over remdesivir and COVID-19 injection complaints which had thousands of complaints.
Up until the 1990s, the reputable retailers took back products returned by customers and dealt with the distributor or the manufacturer about product defects. Almost no retailer is willing to do that today, and they tell the customer to contact the manufacturer who usually blows the complaint off without making good for it.
Unlike drugs and vaccines FDA does not approve supplements or cosmetics. They do have general regulations regarding safety and they do approve color additives used in cosmetics. Retailers do extensive testing, especially on goods they import. They may require domestic importers or mfr to how test reports or certify their product and might do limited testing on high liability items on their shelves. This is not ideal since corporations are professionals about doctoring reports. However, since they have liability and are in a competitive pricing market they are more careful about safety than Pharma.
Many returns are quality defects that FDA/CPSC don’t regulate. Returns that are safety related the retailer is required by law to report to FDA/CPSC who will investigate and recall/fine if necessary.
I am not defending FDA and its revolving door. Its a political agency as much as a safety agency and they may pursue whatever they wish. However, its not their job to test every product for safety, nor do we want them to have that power.
Their performance in drugs and vaccines is criminal, I wont defend them there, and they could probably do a better job on cosmetics and supplements, and certainly with Food. But giving them more power is not the solution.
Consumers have to exert their collective power. We used to have consumer advocates. No more. Corruption like cancer has spread and pervades our society from top to bottom. However, consumer individualism is the norm now, and you are on your own. FDA is not going to save you. States have to lead the way if they are not too far gone....
The fda is going after supplements. I get action alerts quite often. My useless Senator Durbin is at the top of these bills to restrict our freedoms to use supplements. He was behind the NAC removal attempt I recall but it never really went away. This guy is way behind his smell date.
Simple solution. All organ drug/cosmetic makers must publish ingredients to blockchain codex. Makers must follow “do no harm” principles by helping fund independent research fund inspecting said products based on revenue. Crimes are punishable up to death but usually seize owner assets and jail owners for life. Is that enough of incentive not to dump crap into/on our bodies?
Crazy! The skin the largest organ of the body. All modern assault is ruining this external barrier and the related inner gut.
The FDA comes out of the Agricultural Division in the Patent Office in 1848, the roots as a federal consumer protection agency began with the passage of the 1906 Pure Food and Drugs Act. The Flexner Report is from 1910. The rise of the agency’s oversight over drugs closely parallels the rise of Rockefeller medicine and the pharmaceutical complex.
Coincidence? I think you can guess…
Agreed, a legacy of conceit and malignancy wearing a disguise of virtue…