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My daughter in law is due to have our first grandchild in Oct. I read about this last night and just beside myself with worry. Three of our four young adult kids aren’t as awake as I wish they were, and was planning to send all info I have on Vax to them before due date. Now much earlier due to this for pregnant women. I pray they will be open to info. I also know it’s a fine line to inject my opinions too much, so I will give info and then remove my emotions and opinions as it’s their baby not mine to make decisions for. God help us all.

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I was pregnant late in life so it had been a long time since I had been asked to get a vaccine. My OB/Gyn was insistent that I get the whooping cough vax while pregnant. That immediately struck me as insane. And this was long before I had any clue.

These MDs are following strict AMA protocols. Push the vac on the pregnant! Why? The pregnant are incredibly vulnerable. They practically dangle the life of your unborn baby in front of you. She was visibly irritated when I declined.

I will add that my children (now 10 and 14) just had a regular doctor appt. I found it so strange for the first time. Undressed fully, the doctor listened to heart and lungs for about 2 minutes total, then, to their horror, stuck her hand under their testicles and felt around. It struck me so odd that this was the sum and substance of the whole exam--a demonstration of the power of doctors. They get to touch you with full permission in your most vulnerable areas (so hard for kids) to establish rank, file and trust. And why? Is it because testicular cancer is rampant in 10 year olds? No. It is solely because the APA dictates the essentials of the exam. This is exactly how we are all *trained* to treat doctors as gods. It is literally by design to establish this very strange relationship, reminiscent of grooming, allow a stranger to touch you in your most vulnerable places while your parent nods and smiles, validating the act. Message: Doctors are 100% trustworthy whether we know them or not and are all powerful.

Other than this 3 minute exam, I was given the full update on their vaccines, which thankfully none of them were due for. Perhaps I should do them early she suggested--it wouldn't really matter. (My biggest regret in life will be submitting to the childhood vaccine schedule---my children will never get another vaccine in their lives if I can help it). I feigned interest and casually declined and said "next time." She didn't press but when she came back to the room, she gave me the same talk as if she hadn't already done so. Very gentle, no hard press. My guess is that she hadn't been successful in getting any more vax in them this visit and that was a failure. It's the system that is evil--she's doing her job well, trusts her mentors, and is warned of the crazy people. That's me, I just wore a disguise to get what I needed done that day.

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