H5N1 avian flu that Jeremy Farrar at the WHO keeps moaning about. Not even 1000 human infections ever--and now, mutated, it just causes fatigue or pink eye
Pardon me, Ma'am, but there seems even more likelihood of the false targeting of foul as a means to deny food availability; its source, which is preliminary to "famines." We are not told in Matt. 25 the nature of the "famines" eg their origin, whether man-made or no. Neither are we given the scoop on the "plagues" whether they too are produced and intentionally spread by man's inventive mind.
But Jesus was quite focused on the answer given to His Disciples re the end times being severe and dangerous for it being "deceitful."
Our common enemy, the devil, is not interested per say in the death of chickens, other than to secure an end by these false means of deception. In the coming "end" the playbook will include the seduction of the masses by the measures which the devil has both employed in the past with success, and those which have never been implemented as his grand finale: The grand delusion, which he knows will rob billions of their God-given right to eternal life through the merits of Christ, will be overpowering in its ability to deceive "if possible, even the elect."
So, don't get too comfortable! The Times they are a Changin." RAZ
Does anyone know what test is used to detect avain flu? Is it a RT-PCR type test? According to Tom Cowan, MD and Andrew Kaufman, MD, no virus of any name has ever been isolated anywhere in the world; so, how can there be a test for "avain flu"?
Are we talking about millions of chickens supposedly dying of "avain flu"; or, are we talking about millions of chickens being purposely "culled"/killed, because someone in the government thinks they've tested positive for "avain flu"?
It was in about every Substack the last time they were killing every chicken in the USA. Also, showing clips from the actual articles about that murderous time.
Where were you that you missed all that reporting?
I obviously was not following the reporting at that time...didn't even know about Substack.
I didn't become interested in this until the summer of 2020 when I had the white shepherd in my avatar (see the link at the bottom of this post for a full view) inoculated against leptospirosis and two weeks later he started showing bilateral hind limb paralysis which progressed to him being in a wheel chair for the next three years, until I lost him.
That woke me up such that in January of 2021, I questioned whether I should receive a Covid-19 jab and learned in about 15 minutes the mRNA jabs are bioweapons. My interest accelerated from that moment. But, I've only so much time to catch up with what is now known, plus with what is now being discovered. Plus, although, I've probably an above average background in the sciences, this area is not where I concentrated during my dissertation.
it sounds to me like you've read enough to understand what's happening. The pathogenic virus scam is some of their best work. As good judo artists they do well by making the collective "us" imagine what they have suggested might be possible. We are mostly underestimating the power of believe and even worse, the power of disbelief.
At some point I'll have to go back through this Cowan, Kaufman, Ardis, Monzo discussion again (see the link in my post immediately below); but, I believe the H5N1 avian flu "virus" may have been specifically mentioned as one of the many "viruses" (along with AIDS and others) which has never been isolated and proven to exist.
CHEERS 🍻Will watch from now. On my lunch break. Nice timing!! Wanted something good to watch. Was great to see you take a pop at Merylls virus BS narrative. 👍👍👍
I'm not criticizing Meryl. After all, she wrote, "Gov'ts around the world culled over 100 million chickens for a bird flu of no concern--I told you this last year and now the media are begrudgingly admitting it."
However, the fact that no "virus" of any sort has ever been proven to exist needs to be made widely known among researchers, doctors, and healthcare professionals; and, all of these professionals need to start calling BS on organizations like the WHO and agencies like the CDC, FDA, NIAID, NHS, etc. who state the existence of "viruses" as fact and the make pronouncements based on such lies.
There is a 2 sided view in science just like that of politics and media
Each fails to see the legitimate issues of the other side. One side states that the other never isolated a virus or contagion outside the lab before it was detected in the populous
The other after the fact admits to having engineered it in a lab using AI, they then say it somehow leaked out…
But how?
Were the swabs and/or the jabs infected with a contagion
Were there worldwide towers that some claim to have filmed as marked as having a box with the name of the contagion on it
Did it come from our cellar phones
Chem trails
Our water supply
Food supplies
Medical Supplies
Did it even exist
All of the above
There are many perspectives in every situation, not just one
Who has admitted to engineering a "virus" which then "somehow leaked out..."? I do not believe anyone has made such an admission. If they did, there should currently be lawsuits to make them be financially responsible for the monetary losses that were then caused.
Additional reviews of news sources and media reports and articles pre and post “investigation period” of the initial event would be beneficial
You may recall there is a group that claims to own the research and science of everything on line
People seep to think they are joking when they speak about their goals every January
These goals are outlined in various reports published by the UN, and other international organizations
While the wording sounds very lovely to the average reader, few understand the concept behind their writing until they are living with the consequences
I fail to see the benefit of culling infected poultry. A person does not catch influenza from a Chicken McNugget or (even if you are a hysterical Democrat, and less so if you are a non-hysterical Democrat) Chick Fil A sandwich. Or even an undercooked barbecued chicken. Nor from preparing any of those entrees. There is some very low likelihood of catching it from slaughtering and cleaning chickens, but avian flu is really not very directly contagious to people.
All this has done has been to waste taxpayer's money, and increase the price of chicken.
There’s no such thing as avian flu. No virus has ever been found to cause any disease, including the one John Franklin Enders said he isolated, but didn’t, because his Nobel winning trial had no control and can not be duplicated.
Well, opinions differ on that point: Small pox, chicken pox and shingles, hepatitis A, B, C, D, and E; measles, mumps, rubella, human papilloma virus: warts and cervical and penile cancer, Epstein Barr Virus, have been associated with specific viruses, or so rumor has it. But I could be wrong. The older I get the less likely I am to make such bold assertions as that.
Then what is it about the various HPV types that are associated with cutaneous warts, genital warts, and genital cancers? How have those associations been made with different types of something that doesn't exist?
I don't have a lab or do that kind of research work but have been reading what the no virus people have to say. I started looking into vaccines in '76 when there was the first swine flu false episode. I have found no one to refute their basic assertion that a virus has never been isolated in vivo. Also I have not found refuted their assertion that no virus has isolated directly from living organisms even though it is asserted their are viremia causing illness. Small DNA and RNA segments associated with various 'viruses' are found using PCR or rt PCR. Also various proteins are associated with specific viruses and these can be found in ill people. I assume the terrain theory people are saying these are the result of the illness and not the cause. It is only recently that exosomes have been acknowledged. They are much like viruses but are not contagious and are made by the bodies own cells. They also can enter into other cells. Like most every body I believed the germ theory of disease. Being a horny male I was surprised to learn one could have sex with a women with gonorrhea but not get infected. At some point I read we have all kinds of alleged illness causing bacteria in our bodies but do not get ill. Allopathic medicine has only taken one hundred years to notice how important the state of our gut bacteria are to our health. I think everybody knows that if our gut isn't happy there is no way for us to be happy. Allopathic medicine is very reductionist and big pharma is always looking for the magic bullet. Lately, more and more big pharma is looking for, as Goldman Sachs said, the most profitable drug is one that alleviates the symptoms for a short while and doesn't cure it but keeps it chronic. Much of germ theory is just accepted as there are many anecdotal experiences where the contagion paradigm seems to work. While this latest covid scam has made me a total anti-vaxxer I do believe that some microscopic organisms are pathogenic. Exposed to them when in a debilitated state one will become ill in a specific way.
There are other causes for symptoms. They’re called toxins. There are many that we are subjected to every day. There are also any things that we do not know about the mind/body connection, the ways bodies communicate with one another to name a few.
What toxins cause what symptoms and what is the means of exposure and why do they cause localized signs and symptoms, e.g., why does the varicella vaccine (btw, do you know what is in the varicella vaccine?) cause signs and symptoms at specific locations (different places in different people) in spite of the vaccine being given in one specific location per standard protocol (so if there is a local reaction at the site of injection it can be traced back to that injection (if there were more than one vaccine given at a time). Riddle me that, please.
Shingles was because of the chicken pox (varicella) vaccine. Dr. Gary Goldman, working for the CDC did a study in Antelope Valley and found that an explosion of shingles cases was going to be the result of administering the varicella vaccine. He was correct. It’s exploded in all demographics, including children, and is much more dangerous than chicken pox, thought to be a developmental condition ever was. Dr. Goldman sought to publicize this but his paper was pulled by the CDC and this information didn’t come out till the vaccine was entrenched in the schedule.
Shingles existed before the varicella vaccine. I am old enough to have treated cases before the vaccine, and that doesn't prove that it isn't caused by varicella, as the varicella vaccine is a live attenuated version of the wild type varicella virus (if varicella virus exists).
The fact that the vaccine lead to an increased incidence of zoster(shingles) just says that it does. I have heard a couple of explanations/theories as to why.
BTW, what is your background education to make these assertions and interpret these papers?
Shingles existed before the varicella vaccine but the cases were mostly in the aged who were never around children and didn’t get a booster from being around the children. Look up Dr. Goldman and read the story…
There’s a problem with the methodology on all of the papers claiming isolation which is never done. No one can take the snot from a child with measles and say it contains the measles virus when the measles virus has never been isolated much less found to cause the disease. No one can take the mashed up spinal cord of a child who died from spinal lesions on the cord and say it contains the polio virus.
Stefan Lanka, virologist, but refuses to be called that, won a case in the German high court in 2017 when he offered a large sum of money for the isolation of the measles virus. One of the six papers that was submitted by the challenger was the paper that John Franklin Enders won the Nobel Prize for in 1954. Enders’s paper was not allowed as evidence.
Polio was a disease of summer. It was initially caused by lead arsenate and then by DDT, when insecticides were applied to trees. It hasn’t gone away either. The name was just changed.
I am somewhat familiar with the issue of the etiology of acute flaccid paralysis from my reading of Turtles All the Way Down, and I understand the skepticism around that, given what I read in there.
Still, I have seen too many scanning electron micrographs of various virus particles, particularly those that have been 'discovered' in the last few decades. Not to mention DNA and RNA isolations from the various particles and the proteins that they coded for to agree that no virus has been isolated or associated with a specific disease.
Most health modalities like Ayurveda, ancient Chinese medicine, homeopathy do not even mention ‘diseases.’ They treat symptoms. Even Florence Nightengale wrote a definition of disease as symptoms. And many people before Drs. Kaufman, Cowan, the Baileys questioned these incidences of blaming sickness on invisible microorganisms, when we should be looking for the real causes of disease-like cell phones, 5G towers, chemtrails, poisoned food and water, toxic vaccines. No one makes people well by injecting poison into their body, animal DNA, etc.
I have long been familiar with what I now understand is called Terrain Theory. The radiation from cell phones is no more visible than microorganisms. I don't doubt that there may well be an association and even causal of cell phone radiation with illness: brain tumors (glioblastomas as suspected to be from them).
You are barking up the wrong tree with me, I am no longer a vaccine supporter, so don't waste your. pixels (also invisible).
Lung cancer can be caused by cigarette smoke, environmental pollution, radon in dwellings, and external radiation.
With Chem trails, 'poisoned food' and water, you are venturing into things that Maya be a problems but are no more or less real than microorganisms, so be careful that you don't lose your credibility.
Well, allopathic medicine has been accused of just treating symptoms as if that is always a bad thing, and you now are implying that it is a good thing (if it is Ayurveda).
It used to be that all that anyone treating anything was just treating symptoms, or clusters of symptoms; then people recognized repeated patterns of symptoms and signs , and even noted the spatial and temporal associations and called them different names: e.g., to use an obvious example: a burning object contacting your skin causes red painful blistering rash in the shape of the object is a second degree burn and caused by thermal energy transfer to the skin damaging it and causing that reaction, which then is so named. Similarly a poison ivy rash, or a knife wound.
Similarly, but more complex reasoning leads to understanding why the swelling from heart failure is different from that from kidney failure, is different from a blood clot in a limb and different from that caused by kwashiorkor, is different from anaphylaxis, is different from erysipelas or phlebitis.
And each calls for a very different treatment depending upon what the cause is determined to be.
The problem with COVID 19 is/was that the psychopaths inhabiting the DOD and the Federal Bureaucracy and TPTB, ignored everything known by allopathic & other medical systems and imposed a nihilistic approach to the disease in furtherance of profit, control, undermining the Orange Man, covering for the guilty parties, & advancing the NWO of the WEF and their cronies.
Almost all physicians were/are employees and therefore not free to exercise independent thought, judgment, and action for fear of their job, career, ability to practice their profession, feed their families, and even to remain free.
Some bought into the delusion & were active participants, some just followed orders thoughtlessly, and some went along because they felt that they had no choice, in spite of having reservations.
The bad news is that the whole medical profession has lost credibility and trust and what part that is true and effective has been called into question along with the stuff that is wrong and wrongheaded & corrupted.
The good news is that what had been marginalized but effective treatment approaches have become more acceptable to many people that were not open to them before (both practitioners and patients and people in general.
The other bad news is that TPTB are fighting tooth and nail to resist change, maintain control and power and people are getting hurt in the cross fire.
i have to wonder if certain Dept of Agriculture or Health officials enjoyed several months of free chicken nuggets, since they probably knew those facts.
GOD DIDNT MAKE NATURE TO POISON US. UNITE WITH GOD AND LIKE MINDED THATS WHY HE GAVE US BRAINS SO WE DONT KISS SORPIONS OR VIPORS OR WILDLIFE THAT EATS LIVE FOOD, THESE GLOBALLASSED DAVOS MURDERDEROUS DEMONIC DERANGED NEED TO CULL THEMSELVES.
In my chicken group on Facebook someone mentioned how it’s now mandatory in the UK to report how many chickens backyard chicken keepers have. The answers from the people in the UK-and ones potentially facing the same in the US were hilarious. In short no one was going to register their flock and some of the answers were very creative!
Well of course. When you have way to many chickens causing the price to drop you simply declare they have the bird flu H5N1 and now you have permission to create scarcity in the market by dumping them.......this method to control the market does not risk the ire of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Nothing to see here folks..
We simply do not have any prevention of cruelty to all creatures on our planet.
We can measure and research a lot, need proof of everything. Go to a judge and ask him to convict somebody to pay you 20 dollars, and he will ask you to proof your claim, because otherwise the judge will not convict anyone to fullfill your claim
Where is the law that allows who to kill whatever a whole lot of creatures, globally or enormous amounts, like everywhere they like, but it must be gigantic, because a lot of fear to potential opposers must make them silent, like the believe-it-all kind of people, always happy to help the good cause by doing even less than usual. Ofcourse the killing can take place in the way that suits the people who obviously kill whatever creatures while claiming to save them, the most for most financial gain, and proof is not required?
That means the judges and governmental leaders think they are all a member of the killing club.
I do not think they are. I think they are being abused by others but getting well paid for it, and there will be a moment in future their satanic behaviour will be revealed. If they do survive at all up to that moment, because I do not think that it is in het best interests of the very little members of the global-dictator club. I think they need to get rid of people who know what they needed to deceive all people globally
Knowing this, helps me going on
Everybody pays a price of earning money the wrong way. The only question is 'when'
That is absolutely true Rob, as long as the deadly theather earns money and power, and every day getting even bigger with bigger nonsense, it is never enough and doesn't come even close to that
It always amazes me when the culling begins, the story ends with zero follow up. The fear is the factor. The Vaxx is always the result. Who funds these cullings? What is the balance in the farmer's bank account? Where is the paper and digital trail? Where are the viable lab results leading to the cullings? These questions are worthy of keen investigators who seek to shed light on truth.
the bird's flu's connected to the pig's flu, the pig's flu's connected to the cow's flu, the cow's flu's connected to man's flu, Hear the word of the Lord !!
Yeah the virus lie has dug the graves of countless souls and maimed millions more. Those that peddle that lie knowingly/unkowingly have blood on their hands. I've seen the interview you sent and that really put the breaks on the venom thing for me. Was good to see again, though. Cheers 🍻
I remember when they proposed exterminating all migrating birds "to prevent the spread of bird flu". It was madness. When Covid was 'raging' I mentioned this to friends who couldn't understand my lack of concern - "Do you remember Zika? Do you remember bird flu? Do you remember that they proposed extermination of all migratory birds?" Blank stares. What? Nonsense! I don't remember that....... down the memory hole.
I used to be the housekeeper for an amazing gentleman, who passed away a few years ago, at age 97. (talk about a wealth of knowledge and history!!) this man kept chickens (or other domestic poultry) for literally his entire life and was still caring for his chickens up until his last year. (boy do I miss him AND the eggs!) he would vehemently assert that the idea that he or anyone else who regularly cared for properly-kept poultry could 'catch' something from them was the height of absurdity. "what ever they got, I will NEVER get. I've become immune to it decades ago." he used to refer to some lung thing that one could supposedly get from breathing the dander from their feathers, (more a condition than a disease) which he also thought was nonsense. "even when I smoked 2 packs a day, I wouldn't get sick from my birds!" 'catching' things from animals was only something of concern if you got bit by one and either weren't healthy or didn't practice good first-aid.
obviously folks like Farrar have NEVER raised or cared for domestic livestock and literally do NOT have a clue. my ol' Mr Frank (the egg man) would laugh in his face. seriously, he would have.
More proof that monsters not only prey on His creation in terms of man but the
animal kingdom.
Demon is the only proper word to adequately describe such. . .without soul
Pardon me, Ma'am, but there seems even more likelihood of the false targeting of foul as a means to deny food availability; its source, which is preliminary to "famines." We are not told in Matt. 25 the nature of the "famines" eg their origin, whether man-made or no. Neither are we given the scoop on the "plagues" whether they too are produced and intentionally spread by man's inventive mind.
But Jesus was quite focused on the answer given to His Disciples re the end times being severe and dangerous for it being "deceitful."
Our common enemy, the devil, is not interested per say in the death of chickens, other than to secure an end by these false means of deception. In the coming "end" the playbook will include the seduction of the masses by the measures which the devil has both employed in the past with success, and those which have never been implemented as his grand finale: The grand delusion, which he knows will rob billions of their God-given right to eternal life through the merits of Christ, will be overpowering in its ability to deceive "if possible, even the elect."
So, don't get too comfortable! The Times they are a Changin." RAZ
r.
You have obviously missed the point I was making
That is,
monsters focus not only on His creation in terms of human beings who He created in His
image, but His animal kingdom
Finally,
I continue to focus on what is TRUE, and despite what
THEY throw in my direction,
'he who endures to the end shall be saved'
it is all about CONTROL
Basically, it is the
insatiable need to protect 'Mother Earth'
per se?
Does anyone know what test is used to detect avain flu? Is it a RT-PCR type test? According to Tom Cowan, MD and Andrew Kaufman, MD, no virus of any name has ever been isolated anywhere in the world; so, how can there be a test for "avain flu"?
Are we talking about millions of chickens supposedly dying of "avain flu"; or, are we talking about millions of chickens being purposely "culled"/killed, because someone in the government thinks they've tested positive for "avain flu"?
Sounds like a scam to me.
Guess I've some reading to do...
the only test is of one's credulity...
Yep. They use the PCR test. 🙄
How did you determine that fact?
It was in about every Substack the last time they were killing every chicken in the USA. Also, showing clips from the actual articles about that murderous time.
Where were you that you missed all that reporting?
I obviously was not following the reporting at that time...didn't even know about Substack.
I didn't become interested in this until the summer of 2020 when I had the white shepherd in my avatar (see the link at the bottom of this post for a full view) inoculated against leptospirosis and two weeks later he started showing bilateral hind limb paralysis which progressed to him being in a wheel chair for the next three years, until I lost him.
That woke me up such that in January of 2021, I questioned whether I should receive a Covid-19 jab and learned in about 15 minutes the mRNA jabs are bioweapons. My interest accelerated from that moment. But, I've only so much time to catch up with what is now known, plus with what is now being discovered. Plus, although, I've probably an above average background in the sciences, this area is not where I concentrated during my dissertation.
(Avatar photo)
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I'm so sorry you lost your beautiful dog. No matter the reason, that's always a heartbreaker.
The puppy is adorable, too.
I'm glad you woke up in time to pass on taking the jab.
Thanks
it sounds to me like you've read enough to understand what's happening. The pathogenic virus scam is some of their best work. As good judo artists they do well by making the collective "us" imagine what they have suggested might be possible. We are mostly underestimating the power of believe and even worse, the power of disbelief.
Well said!! 👍
At some point I'll have to go back through this Cowan, Kaufman, Ardis, Monzo discussion again (see the link in my post immediately below); but, I believe the H5N1 avian flu "virus" may have been specifically mentioned as one of the many "viruses" (along with AIDS and others) which has never been isolated and proven to exist.
no viruses have ever been proven to exist via the scientific method ( end sentence)
A friend sent me the following discussion which clarified the current state of knowledge for me:
"Germs & Snake Venom Peptides" Dr. 'Andrew Kaufman' Dr. 'Bryan Ardis' Dr. 'Tom Cowan' Dr. 'Monzo'
https://rumble.com/v2b5gjq-germs-and-snake-venom-peptides-dr.-andrew-kaufman-dr.-bryan-ardis-dr.-tom-c.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
CHEERS 🍻Will watch from now. On my lunch break. Nice timing!! Wanted something good to watch. Was great to see you take a pop at Merylls virus BS narrative. 👍👍👍
I'm not criticizing Meryl. After all, she wrote, "Gov'ts around the world culled over 100 million chickens for a bird flu of no concern--I told you this last year and now the media are begrudgingly admitting it."
However, the fact that no "virus" of any sort has ever been proven to exist needs to be made widely known among researchers, doctors, and healthcare professionals; and, all of these professionals need to start calling BS on organizations like the WHO and agencies like the CDC, FDA, NIAID, NHS, etc. who state the existence of "viruses" as fact and the make pronouncements based on such lies.
There is a 2 sided view in science just like that of politics and media
Each fails to see the legitimate issues of the other side. One side states that the other never isolated a virus or contagion outside the lab before it was detected in the populous
The other after the fact admits to having engineered it in a lab using AI, they then say it somehow leaked out…
But how?
Were the swabs and/or the jabs infected with a contagion
Were there worldwide towers that some claim to have filmed as marked as having a box with the name of the contagion on it
Did it come from our cellar phones
Chem trails
Our water supply
Food supplies
Medical Supplies
Did it even exist
All of the above
There are many perspectives in every situation, not just one
Who has admitted to engineering a "virus" which then "somehow leaked out..."? I do not believe anyone has made such an admission. If they did, there should currently be lawsuits to make them be financially responsible for the monetary losses that were then caused.
Informative papers were redacted and/or removed
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Maximum-likelihood-genealogy-show-the-evolution-of-2019-nCoV-The-evolutionary-history_fig1_338957445
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en
These might be of some benefit
Additional reviews of news sources and media reports and articles pre and post “investigation period” of the initial event would be beneficial
You may recall there is a group that claims to own the research and science of everything on line
People seep to think they are joking when they speak about their goals every January
These goals are outlined in various reports published by the UN, and other international organizations
While the wording sounds very lovely to the average reader, few understand the concept behind their writing until they are living with the consequences
Maybe an object was to make chicken more expensive.
So we would be prepared to eat bugs.
sounds like it's time to quit the job, raise chickens and find high gov't functionaries and sell their organs to infidels.
Bird flu? Viral infections do not catch me as do not recognize them. Kill[g poultry? Sure- isn't famine predicted by WHO?
W ORLD H ELLISH O DOR
A good one, but how to convey to the people that this is their PLAN?
DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT HERE, INFORMATION SWAP - ASKING QUESTIONS - TELLING WHAT YOU KNOW
I fail to see the benefit of culling infected poultry. A person does not catch influenza from a Chicken McNugget or (even if you are a hysterical Democrat, and less so if you are a non-hysterical Democrat) Chick Fil A sandwich. Or even an undercooked barbecued chicken. Nor from preparing any of those entrees. There is some very low likelihood of catching it from slaughtering and cleaning chickens, but avian flu is really not very directly contagious to people.
All this has done has been to waste taxpayer's money, and increase the price of chicken.
God, do I hate bureaucrats!!!
There’s no such thing as avian flu. No virus has ever been found to cause any disease, including the one John Franklin Enders said he isolated, but didn’t, because his Nobel winning trial had no control and can not be duplicated.
Well, opinions differ on that point: Small pox, chicken pox and shingles, hepatitis A, B, C, D, and E; measles, mumps, rubella, human papilloma virus: warts and cervical and penile cancer, Epstein Barr Virus, have been associated with specific viruses, or so rumor has it. But I could be wrong. The older I get the less likely I am to make such bold assertions as that.
HPV has also never been isolated and found to exist.
Then what is it about the various HPV types that are associated with cutaneous warts, genital warts, and genital cancers? How have those associations been made with different types of something that doesn't exist?
I don't have a lab or do that kind of research work but have been reading what the no virus people have to say. I started looking into vaccines in '76 when there was the first swine flu false episode. I have found no one to refute their basic assertion that a virus has never been isolated in vivo. Also I have not found refuted their assertion that no virus has isolated directly from living organisms even though it is asserted their are viremia causing illness. Small DNA and RNA segments associated with various 'viruses' are found using PCR or rt PCR. Also various proteins are associated with specific viruses and these can be found in ill people. I assume the terrain theory people are saying these are the result of the illness and not the cause. It is only recently that exosomes have been acknowledged. They are much like viruses but are not contagious and are made by the bodies own cells. They also can enter into other cells. Like most every body I believed the germ theory of disease. Being a horny male I was surprised to learn one could have sex with a women with gonorrhea but not get infected. At some point I read we have all kinds of alleged illness causing bacteria in our bodies but do not get ill. Allopathic medicine has only taken one hundred years to notice how important the state of our gut bacteria are to our health. I think everybody knows that if our gut isn't happy there is no way for us to be happy. Allopathic medicine is very reductionist and big pharma is always looking for the magic bullet. Lately, more and more big pharma is looking for, as Goldman Sachs said, the most profitable drug is one that alleviates the symptoms for a short while and doesn't cure it but keeps it chronic. Much of germ theory is just accepted as there are many anecdotal experiences where the contagion paradigm seems to work. While this latest covid scam has made me a total anti-vaxxer I do believe that some microscopic organisms are pathogenic. Exposed to them when in a debilitated state one will become ill in a specific way.
There are other causes for symptoms. They’re called toxins. There are many that we are subjected to every day. There are also any things that we do not know about the mind/body connection, the ways bodies communicate with one another to name a few.
What toxins cause what symptoms and what is the means of exposure and why do they cause localized signs and symptoms, e.g., why does the varicella vaccine (btw, do you know what is in the varicella vaccine?) cause signs and symptoms at specific locations (different places in different people) in spite of the vaccine being given in one specific location per standard protocol (so if there is a local reaction at the site of injection it can be traced back to that injection (if there were more than one vaccine given at a time). Riddle me that, please.
it's okay to let go of the programming Rog- but there's been no 'official' safe-space set up for those who do...
;)
(and it's not about getting older, it's about growing wiser...)
To what comment of mine is this responsive to ?
Who do you assert has programmed me to what? And what am I in danger of if I let go? How far am I going to fall and fall into what?
You are making even less sense than Geraldine.
Shingles was because of the chicken pox (varicella) vaccine. Dr. Gary Goldman, working for the CDC did a study in Antelope Valley and found that an explosion of shingles cases was going to be the result of administering the varicella vaccine. He was correct. It’s exploded in all demographics, including children, and is much more dangerous than chicken pox, thought to be a developmental condition ever was. Dr. Goldman sought to publicize this but his paper was pulled by the CDC and this information didn’t come out till the vaccine was entrenched in the schedule.
Shingles existed before the varicella vaccine. I am old enough to have treated cases before the vaccine, and that doesn't prove that it isn't caused by varicella, as the varicella vaccine is a live attenuated version of the wild type varicella virus (if varicella virus exists).
The fact that the vaccine lead to an increased incidence of zoster(shingles) just says that it does. I have heard a couple of explanations/theories as to why.
BTW, what is your background education to make these assertions and interpret these papers?
Shingles existed before the varicella vaccine but the cases were mostly in the aged who were never around children and didn’t get a booster from being around the children. Look up Dr. Goldman and read the story…
There’s a problem with the methodology on all of the papers claiming isolation which is never done. No one can take the snot from a child with measles and say it contains the measles virus when the measles virus has never been isolated much less found to cause the disease. No one can take the mashed up spinal cord of a child who died from spinal lesions on the cord and say it contains the polio virus.
Stefan Lanka, virologist, but refuses to be called that, won a case in the German high court in 2017 when he offered a large sum of money for the isolation of the measles virus. One of the six papers that was submitted by the challenger was the paper that John Franklin Enders won the Nobel Prize for in 1954. Enders’s paper was not allowed as evidence.
Polio was a disease of summer. It was initially caused by lead arsenate and then by DDT, when insecticides were applied to trees. It hasn’t gone away either. The name was just changed.
I am somewhat familiar with the issue of the etiology of acute flaccid paralysis from my reading of Turtles All the Way Down, and I understand the skepticism around that, given what I read in there.
Still, I have seen too many scanning electron micrographs of various virus particles, particularly those that have been 'discovered' in the last few decades. Not to mention DNA and RNA isolations from the various particles and the proteins that they coded for to agree that no virus has been isolated or associated with a specific disease.
No virus has ever been isolated, period.
Not a fruitful discussion. As there is plenty of evidence against what you say. Cherry picking. Have a good day.
Most health modalities like Ayurveda, ancient Chinese medicine, homeopathy do not even mention ‘diseases.’ They treat symptoms. Even Florence Nightengale wrote a definition of disease as symptoms. And many people before Drs. Kaufman, Cowan, the Baileys questioned these incidences of blaming sickness on invisible microorganisms, when we should be looking for the real causes of disease-like cell phones, 5G towers, chemtrails, poisoned food and water, toxic vaccines. No one makes people well by injecting poison into their body, animal DNA, etc.
I have long been familiar with what I now understand is called Terrain Theory. The radiation from cell phones is no more visible than microorganisms. I don't doubt that there may well be an association and even causal of cell phone radiation with illness: brain tumors (glioblastomas as suspected to be from them).
You are barking up the wrong tree with me, I am no longer a vaccine supporter, so don't waste your. pixels (also invisible).
Lung cancer can be caused by cigarette smoke, environmental pollution, radon in dwellings, and external radiation.
With Chem trails, 'poisoned food' and water, you are venturing into things that Maya be a problems but are no more or less real than microorganisms, so be careful that you don't lose your credibility.
Well, allopathic medicine has been accused of just treating symptoms as if that is always a bad thing, and you now are implying that it is a good thing (if it is Ayurveda).
It used to be that all that anyone treating anything was just treating symptoms, or clusters of symptoms; then people recognized repeated patterns of symptoms and signs , and even noted the spatial and temporal associations and called them different names: e.g., to use an obvious example: a burning object contacting your skin causes red painful blistering rash in the shape of the object is a second degree burn and caused by thermal energy transfer to the skin damaging it and causing that reaction, which then is so named. Similarly a poison ivy rash, or a knife wound.
Similarly, but more complex reasoning leads to understanding why the swelling from heart failure is different from that from kidney failure, is different from a blood clot in a limb and different from that caused by kwashiorkor, is different from anaphylaxis, is different from erysipelas or phlebitis.
And each calls for a very different treatment depending upon what the cause is determined to be.
The problem with COVID 19 is/was that the psychopaths inhabiting the DOD and the Federal Bureaucracy and TPTB, ignored everything known by allopathic & other medical systems and imposed a nihilistic approach to the disease in furtherance of profit, control, undermining the Orange Man, covering for the guilty parties, & advancing the NWO of the WEF and their cronies.
Almost all physicians were/are employees and therefore not free to exercise independent thought, judgment, and action for fear of their job, career, ability to practice their profession, feed their families, and even to remain free.
Some bought into the delusion & were active participants, some just followed orders thoughtlessly, and some went along because they felt that they had no choice, in spite of having reservations.
The bad news is that the whole medical profession has lost credibility and trust and what part that is true and effective has been called into question along with the stuff that is wrong and wrongheaded & corrupted.
The good news is that what had been marginalized but effective treatment approaches have become more acceptable to many people that were not open to them before (both practitioners and patients and people in general.
The other bad news is that TPTB are fighting tooth and nail to resist change, maintain control and power and people are getting hurt in the cross fire.
The good news is that
i have to wonder if certain Dept of Agriculture or Health officials enjoyed several months of free chicken nuggets, since they probably knew those facts.
GOD DIDNT MAKE NATURE TO POISON US. UNITE WITH GOD AND LIKE MINDED THATS WHY HE GAVE US BRAINS SO WE DONT KISS SORPIONS OR VIPORS OR WILDLIFE THAT EATS LIVE FOOD, THESE GLOBALLASSED DAVOS MURDERDEROUS DEMONIC DERANGED NEED TO CULL THEMSELVES.
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There is nothing “in the air”
Boys and Girls.
If they could pull it off,
The people of Russia
Would have already been wiped out.
- Gain Of Function is still a failure.
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In my chicken group on Facebook someone mentioned how it’s now mandatory in the UK to report how many chickens backyard chicken keepers have. The answers from the people in the UK-and ones potentially facing the same in the US were hilarious. In short no one was going to register their flock and some of the answers were very creative!
Hah hah hah! Please send us the link, we could all use a good laugh about now :-)
I went back over many posts and couldn’t find it. There are many posts every day. Here’s an example: https://www.facebook.com/groups/692124331951538/permalink/1188066952357271/?
I read that anything over 50 has to be reported.
I think it’s down to or going down to one chicken.
They want to be able to take anyones chickens at any time Im assuming.
Yes. They want to claim they have nonexistent bird flu, to eliminate even more of the food supply. They want individual home gardens registered too.
Well of course. When you have way to many chickens causing the price to drop you simply declare they have the bird flu H5N1 and now you have permission to create scarcity in the market by dumping them.......this method to control the market does not risk the ire of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Nothing to see here folks..
We simply do not have any prevention of cruelty to all creatures on our planet.
We can measure and research a lot, need proof of everything. Go to a judge and ask him to convict somebody to pay you 20 dollars, and he will ask you to proof your claim, because otherwise the judge will not convict anyone to fullfill your claim
Where is the law that allows who to kill whatever a whole lot of creatures, globally or enormous amounts, like everywhere they like, but it must be gigantic, because a lot of fear to potential opposers must make them silent, like the believe-it-all kind of people, always happy to help the good cause by doing even less than usual. Ofcourse the killing can take place in the way that suits the people who obviously kill whatever creatures while claiming to save them, the most for most financial gain, and proof is not required?
That means the judges and governmental leaders think they are all a member of the killing club.
I do not think they are. I think they are being abused by others but getting well paid for it, and there will be a moment in future their satanic behaviour will be revealed. If they do survive at all up to that moment, because I do not think that it is in het best interests of the very little members of the global-dictator club. I think they need to get rid of people who know what they needed to deceive all people globally
Knowing this, helps me going on
Everybody pays a price of earning money the wrong way. The only question is 'when'
Not 'if', only 'when'
I can't say it enough... I'm fed up with all of these monsters.
That is absolutely true Rob, as long as the deadly theather earns money and power, and every day getting even bigger with bigger nonsense, it is never enough and doesn't come even close to that
It always amazes me when the culling begins, the story ends with zero follow up. The fear is the factor. The Vaxx is always the result. Who funds these cullings? What is the balance in the farmer's bank account? Where is the paper and digital trail? Where are the viable lab results leading to the cullings? These questions are worthy of keen investigators who seek to shed light on truth.
the bird's flu's connected to the pig's flu, the pig's flu's connected to the cow's flu, the cow's flu's connected to man's flu, Hear the word of the Lord !!
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LOL 😃
Yeah the virus lie has dug the graves of countless souls and maimed millions more. Those that peddle that lie knowingly/unkowingly have blood on their hands. I've seen the interview you sent and that really put the breaks on the venom thing for me. Was good to see again, though. Cheers 🍻
I remember when they proposed exterminating all migrating birds "to prevent the spread of bird flu". It was madness. When Covid was 'raging' I mentioned this to friends who couldn't understand my lack of concern - "Do you remember Zika? Do you remember bird flu? Do you remember that they proposed extermination of all migratory birds?" Blank stares. What? Nonsense! I don't remember that....... down the memory hole.
I used to be the housekeeper for an amazing gentleman, who passed away a few years ago, at age 97. (talk about a wealth of knowledge and history!!) this man kept chickens (or other domestic poultry) for literally his entire life and was still caring for his chickens up until his last year. (boy do I miss him AND the eggs!) he would vehemently assert that the idea that he or anyone else who regularly cared for properly-kept poultry could 'catch' something from them was the height of absurdity. "what ever they got, I will NEVER get. I've become immune to it decades ago." he used to refer to some lung thing that one could supposedly get from breathing the dander from their feathers, (more a condition than a disease) which he also thought was nonsense. "even when I smoked 2 packs a day, I wouldn't get sick from my birds!" 'catching' things from animals was only something of concern if you got bit by one and either weren't healthy or didn't practice good first-aid.
obviously folks like Farrar have NEVER raised or cared for domestic livestock and literally do NOT have a clue. my ol' Mr Frank (the egg man) would laugh in his face. seriously, he would have.
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