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Joseph A Gorski's avatar

There is no way mass production slaughter houses can possibly be as safe and caring as small operations. Decentralization is better than a few centralized operations.

Jeanette Johnson's avatar

The nice thing about buying directly from the farmers is your helping them without the middleman the price is much lower, and your getting real meat with no fillers or water added. The flavor is awesome compared to store bought. Plus you can fill your freezer by getting 1/4 or the whole cow. You can also go together with family and split the meat according to your family size.

We are retired milk, and beef farmers, and we know the work that goes into it, so we’re willing to pay the price for grass fed, and no vax.

wkenn's avatar

Dr. Nass,

I did a very quick read of this post.

When I hunt, either for deer or pheasant, I perform the necessary steps to convert the wild game into table food.

We are doing quite well with this approach.

I hope this in some way sheds light from a different perspective on the inspection issue.

John Day MD's avatar

Yes, prompt butchering of an animal is not complicated in a clean environment, "sanitary" in this language. When I hunted on my grandfather's ranch I always promptly field dressed the deer, took the carcas to the house and butchered it up for the fridge, freezer and immediate cooking.

John's avatar

Great point. People have been processing, no doubt safely, food for family, friends, and neighbors, for a while now, I think.

However, all of the above are now unacceptable and must be destroyed in the interest of globalism, our savior du jure.

John's avatar
20hEdited

I had to laugh at his obviously specious and paternalistic claim that farmers would not be able to get insurance as if that needs to be his concern at all.

" Mr. Shawn Jasper, pointed out that the book The Jungle, written over 100 years ago, remains relevant." If I remember correctly, the book primarily criticized the industrial meat packers not the mom and pop operations.

Several of Lewis' other books, such as the "The Brass Check," (problems with the press) "The Goose-Step," and "The Goslings" (both address problems with schooling), are superb as well and deserve to be better known. Still relevant too.

Rob D's avatar

Great comment. And I had kind of forgotten the point that "The Jungle" was, indeed pointing out industrial meat production.

John's avatar

Thanks! I suspect that, in the end, it effectively thinned the competition as intended. I highly doubt any real reforms took place or if they did that they didn't last long.

Same concept goes for Saint Teddy's* "trust busting" and the "Prohibition" that had nothing to do with morality.

* Can you believe that rank, filthy rich kid's mug defaces Paha Sapa to this day? What a desecration!

Dave Scrimshaw's avatar

sent it to my PA state rep.

Kyle Young's avatar

For 250,000 years people have slaughtered and butchered game animals and domestic livestock at home or on their farm. The fact that we survived doing that for that long is testament to the efficacy of that beautiful, decentralized system.

What we may not survive is the ongoing manipulation of our food supply by unscrupulous, centralized corporations and their lackey's at the USDA.

As a farmer who sells at farmers markets, I know that if I sell tainted food to my customers I'll be out of business in no time. The quality of meat from locally produced, locally slaughtered and locally processed livestock will ALWAYS be superior to anything coming from a USDA facility.

Andrew Graham's avatar

I fully support what is being asked for.

Just one issue in my mind that i havnt heard mentioned is ensuring the necessary skill in killing the animals in a so called humane fast way to reduce as much suffering as possible.

Damien McKenna's avatar

Great analysis, thank you. I have some friends just east of Darthmouth that have a multi-generational farm where they're hoping to be able to slaughter on premises, so I hope this can pass for them.

Bruce Kolinski, P.E. (Retired)'s avatar

Wonderfully informative article,. Thank you Dr. Nass. I'm 74-years young and came of age in central Wisconsin's sand county area where local family owned farms produced our veggies, meat, and dairy consumables. Small meat and dairy processing plants created healthy, delicious products along with small local breweries like the Point Brewery in Stevens Point. During harvest season farmer's markets were swarmed with customers. We bought tomato's, small cucumbers, green apples, rhubarb, and other items by the bushel for canning and pickling. I have no memory of family and friends getting sick and/or dying by consuming these locally produced food items. I've never had such high quality food, so available since those locally grown days in the fifties and sixties. I vote for local, local, local on this matter. Free, competitive, local market demand will generate a supply of great local products meeting that demand. No families will buy toxic farm or ranch goods from bad suppliers more than one time. Thanks again for this information.

John's avatar

"Is allowing on-farm slaughter and sales for small producers a good or bad idea?"

Depends. The answer is, "cui bono?"

Sukey Watson's avatar

And another issue: what percentage if any of foreign imported meat has a USDA inspector on site at the foreign slaughterhouse? Me thinks the answer is none. Are any inspections of foreign meat and the foreign raising of this meat ever conducted? How come this meat is deemed safe but not that which farmer Joe processes just down the road from me. I know how his cows and other livestock are raised. Local accountability is the most robust form of accountability. If Joe farmer starts selling tainted meat or is known for slovenly or otherwise cruel animal husbandry, farmer Joe will soon be out of business.

Matthew Gardner's avatar

Culling and One Health. . Kinda important to look at ideological foundations of this IMO

Rob D's avatar

Whenever someone says it is "dangerous" to eat locally produced food I get steaming angry. We used to have mostly local food in the entire U.S. for decades and decades (until consolidation began in the late 70s and continues up till today. It was mostly because Monsanto was getting their filthy hands into our food production and, well, we see where that has gone). The excuse of "safety" is one of the most lame excuses, and I grow incredibly tired of it.

I enjoy sending people to the FDA's own website to see where the recalls and poisonous products are coming from... and they are NOT from your local growers, meat processors, etc. No, they are typically ALL from giant corporations who cannot see every aspect of their business, compared to mom and pops who can keep an eye on everything and have much more to lose if they get someone ill by selling inferior products. Products I buy from local producers are ALWAYS multiple times safer and healthier in every way. People must begin understanding this.

https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts