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Astragale's avatar

The “authorities” would not have fought tooth & nail to ban IVM & HCQ if they were not effective against a pathogen. IVM & HCQ stood in the way of their trillion-dollar injections.

What was the pathogen? I don’t know. But I’ve seen the documentation showing the GofF work in the WIV, funded by the US & managed by Daszak & Baric. Something was engineered & released/escaped. (Released IMO).

What was covid? I don’t know. People who tested ‘positive’ told me variously that they just had:

headaches; a cough with loss of their sense of smell; vomiting & fatigue; classic flu symptoms; just a dry scratchy throat.

“Covid” seemed to have many different effects. Some had blood clotting. Usually, we classify a disease by its symptoms. It’s a strange disease that can have clusters of disparate symptoms.

However, whether the globalists come up with an imaginary bird flu, an engineered bird flu or some other plandemic, we need to stay focused on:

Opposing mandates;

Opposing digital ID including ‘vaxx passports’;

Opposing programmable money.

Roc Findlay's avatar

They fought tooth & nail due to the fact that if any alternative protocols were able to be used then NO " vaccines" could be given a clear pathway. Big dollars to be made by people who had shares in the jabs as opposed to the cheap alternatives that were off patent & allegedly only cost a few cents, which, by the way, are now being recommended & vigorously promoted via some of the self proclaimed freedom fighters, for BIG bucks. Must be a story in that scam. Charlatans play both sides.

Just BeNice's avatar

*no vaccine would have been greenlighted under Emergency Use Authoritation, and that is why HCQ and IVM had to be discredited and even demonized.

Factscinator's avatar

Exactly!! Doesn't mean there was a virus to cure

Original Owner's avatar

Nobody can corner the market on IVM bc it's out of patent and can be manufactured anywhere in the world by any of a hundred companies. The reason for inflated prices is that governments target international orders for "inspection" and confiscation.

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Before covid 19, Ivermectin was available over the counter for less than $5.00 a box of 100 tablets. We will never win this war against the cabal with those kind of word Roc ¨Must be a story in that scam. Charlatans play both sides.¨ We have to stay united.

Roc Findlay's avatar

If you describe someone as naive, you think they lack experience and so expect things to be easy or people to be honest or kind. Stay united only with people who are fairdinkum old mate.

Allen's avatar

The authorities fought tooth and nail on that point for reasons of profit and the necessities of rolling out their new product- the mRNA technology. Had nothing to do with any "effectiveness" narrative and all to do with the exigencies of the EUA.

Documentation showing GoF "work", slush funds of Daszak-Baric and all the rest prove nothing other than money laundering. It absolutely DOES NOT prove anything about release/escape let alone transmission of anything. That is a logical fallacy you have made there.

Adding to the falsities, of this most up voted comment, the alleged release/escape of the alleged pathogen proves nothing whatsoever about the "deadliness" of alleged pathogen and in fact the voluminous documentation provided over and over by Rancourt, Panda, Hockett et al show that there is absolutely ZERO evidence for a pathogen causing mass harm.

FURTHER even more evidence from Italy, UK, Scottish Covid Inquiry, NYC data and on and on tell us EXACTLY what did happen. It was MASS MURDER in hospitals via protocols. Are you not aware of any of this evidence that is being provided day in and day out?

This is what is called real evidence and documentation not ideologically driven speculation.

Those who are ignoring such evidence and continuing to promote the lab leak risk-additive are he problem as they are covering up the iatrogenic slaughter that happened in the hospitals all over the world in 2020.

Christine FOIs's avatar

GoF requires a "virus" to gain function on. The GoF studies do not begin or end with a "virus". The evidence is simply not there. They are keeping you mentally locked into the "germ" nonsense that leads to all manner of harmful reactions.

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

It doesn't matter if it's a virus or not. It is a bioweapon made in a lab. Which part of this sentence you don't understand?

Christine FOIs's avatar

What part of "SARS-COV-2 has never been found in anyone on the planet and all the tests are impossible to validate" do you not understand? If I'm wrong, go ahead and cite valid scientific evidence (not patents, emails or pseudoscience).

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Mark's avatar

And then of course there’s Rabies…..

I’ve asked many in the “ no viruses” crowd to honestly tell me what they would do if they were bitten by a rabid animal. Would they take the vaccine for the Rabies virus?

The answer in all cases was exactly the same …..crickets. No answer at all.

Factscinator's avatar

Perfectly expressed 🎯🎯🎯

frankly's avatar

Dr. Nass could have addressed this all directly to you, right over your air filled head though.

Christine FOIs's avatar

Resorting to insults instead of citing valid evidence.. yawn.

frankly's avatar

Yeah you don't look like you've had any excitement ever. You have to convince a virologist there is no such thing as a virus, you failed. You can't convince Dr. Nass what chance have you with convincing me?

Christine FOIs's avatar

You're still confused I see. The onus is on those making the positive claim. And still resorting to childish insults since you and Meryl have zero valid evidence. Yawn.

frankly's avatar

Yeah that is what got her those invites to testify all around the world, zero evidence. You know boredom is no one fault but your own. Google it, even they know that much.

Christine FOIs's avatar

I'm starting to wonder if you are "AI" employed for the purpose of wasting my time. I'll not waste any more.

Factscinator's avatar

Others are asking thee same question of Frankly

frankly's avatar

But since you are on to "me" so be it. bye for now sweetie pie

Factscinator's avatar

Just cite some evidence

kordelas's avatar

I would like to see Nass doing this. The thing is she can't because she does not have evidence she is asked for.

Factscinator's avatar

Frankly and Meryl don't believe in citing evidence. It interferes with their abandonment of the scientific method 😃

Factscinator's avatar

Now, now, frankly. Just cos you have no evidence no need to get your knickers in a twist

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

My main take-away is this: Do NOT trust "the experts."

Christine FOIs's avatar

Tim Truth is challenging ivermectin-pushers to a debate at the end of this post:

https://timtruth.substack.com/p/ultimate-guide-to-anti-fertility

I challenged people to cite valid scientific evidence of safety and no one could. And no one could possibly show evidence of effectiveness against an imaginary "virus" that is fake-detected with fraudulent tests.

Factscinator's avatar

And exposing the virus lie from which all the tyranny stems

CBD's avatar

Have you ever heard of a limited hangout? Government wants to do X so it puts out people who only discuss 'A' or 'B' so plan X continues unbated. There is no data to support a very deadly novel RNA virus (replication incompetent) circulated the globe killing people. There is data (and more importantly hidden data) which shows that intentional policies killed people and attributed death to a new cause. (I will concede it is possible that a toxin was released locally on top of the policies to have some very ill people.) Elderly and very ill people have always had repercussions from infections.

Factscinator's avatar

You can't gain the function of something that Doesn't exist. Please cite a paper with a valid control for a virus that has had its function gained.

frankly's avatar

You just don't get it do you, plain English.

"If there is much more of this, I may have to call it a day and give up on the human race. Why are we falling into the traps of the hate-mongers? Why can’t we put some of our truly unimportant differences aside in order to save the species and avoid becoming many fewer chipped robots?"

No Dr. Nass, the simpler fix is to show them the door. If you were taking a PHD level course, paid money for and some nit wit in the front row kept jumping up and down screaming in a foreign language, but obviously insulting everyone there, would you want a refund? You directly address them at length and depth, they still Please Cite all over the place.

kordelas's avatar

I get that you, Nass and others are unable to substantiate your own claims.

Also appeal to authority and genetic logical fallacies.

frankly's avatar

You don't get much do ya chump? Paid maybe, not even that, work for the devil for free, it's part of the high you get from belonging to a cult. On a mission. To enslave the world.

kordelas's avatar

Like ad hominem, straw manning and red herring are going to help you to win the argument.

But keep coping.

Lol.

Factscinator's avatar

Just cos you can't cite any evidence for one of the greatest frauds perpetrated against mankind, there is no need to get your knickers in a twist.

Donna's avatar

Rand Paul talked about how to take a virus and combine it with another virus to make that virus twice as bad, it "gained function", I believe him.

kordelas's avatar

Explain how does Rand Paul know that viruses are real?

Virginia Friend's avatar

Wonderful.

Please add to this: oppose and end the W.H.O. They are not what they seem. Most of us know this.

Winny A.'s avatar

Astragale, I agree if only we could keep the focus on what matters😞

Nancy L Miller's avatar

I am so thankful for your brilliance applied in these past 4 years. I am an RN and was assigned to the Covid unit in a large metro area from the very beginning. I have witnessed a lot at the bedside, most of which I have to take to God as the faces and hands and hearts of patients are ever with me. Realizing so many wrong things were at work while going through each day was a harsh reality. Covid injury followed by injection injury was like two floods to me and the injury continues to this day.

Most difficult for me is the silence of the physicians. I believe this is still at the core of the terrible fruits we have reaped. Those who endeavored to speak up in a large hospital system were quickly sent packing.

I am thankful for each and every one taking a stand with courage. It is important to be on solid information and reasoning to the best of our ability. May God continue to teach and direct us. Thank you Meryl for your labor of love and expertise. Your life has been a gift and a comfort to many.

Keep speaking. Shatter the Silence.

frankly's avatar

Top shelf post. Heart, soul, clear practical reality. Thank your Nurse Nancy. Too many docs in it for the status, nothing in their code of ethics allows what they have.

Derrick Baker's avatar

You are so right as always Meryl. Yesterday we had another example of professionals creating unnecessary arguments.

Dr Breggin unhappy with Dr Desmet and Dr Malone.

It just damages all the good work they are doing.

kordelas's avatar

How a lack of valid evidence of any alleged biological virus is an unnecessary argument?

TiredCitizen's avatar

And shows that acting like preschoolers not getting their way in the sandbox exists on all sides.

kordelas's avatar

So far it is you and others like you who act like preschoolers.

Factscinator's avatar

That's why he/she is a tired citizen.

Tamenund's avatar

It's is like being incapacitated and coughing profusely in a smoke-filled room while hearing firefighters walking about freely with their Scot-packs but are arguing about who gets to sit up in the front of the fire truck for the ride back to the station.

kordelas's avatar

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Jim Reagen's avatar

And then there’s the Malone/Desmet—Breggin rift.

But all of these are second order concerns.

The important and hard first-order task is to stop the globalist agenda through practical steps to subvert it any way we can, and a number of groups are working on aspects of this. In this mult-faceted attack on us there will be disagreements over exactly what happened but one thing we can agree on: some entity is trying to impose a global socialist/fascist tyranny using powerful technologies, some of which are unknown to us. A (fraudulent) concentration of wealth to people who believe they’re the global elite and should have power enables this.

Turning back state power over individuals is key. Decentralized power and individual sovereignty are the goals. After that there’s still a lot of work to unwind the damage.

LW's avatar

We should all send Breggin and Malone this post by Dr Nass and insist they read it …and every comment.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Exactly right. I'm sick of everyone fighting with each other, but especially the rift you mentioned above. People do that and I'm done with them. We don't need it just like we don't need fake actors like Drew Peters and Candace Owens.

GiGi's avatar

How quiet should one be when sued for millions by a supposed good guy for no valid reason? I would have a hard time with that.

kordelas's avatar

The fight over the truth is very important.

Cleo's avatar

It’s very obvious to me that there was no Covid, as in, as a contagious virus. I could cover each of your points if you wish but the information is widely available. People were sick but with radiation sickness symptoms and mostly immediately after the vaccine rollout. If Covid was real why did they have to use a fake test that’s was not fit for purpose, as confirmed by its Nobel winning inventor who died late 2020, but used a method by the results were easy to manipulate and control. Why did they fake so many cases and want to deign every death a Covid one? And most importantly for me, why were our politicians having karaoke parties? They knew it was a lie. Just started following your writing but I would say you aren’t as informed as I originally thought. The answers to all of this are very much established now.

Freedom Farmer's avatar

There was a "bug" of some ilk (like there is every flu season). But PCR test inventor, Dr. Kary Mullis, died conveniently in August of 2019 (supposedly of pneumonia), before Event 201 in October 2019; before the CDC's changing the definition of a viral case in December 2019 (to include "testing positive"TM on a PCR test); and all the rest. You are correct though. The over-cycled PCR test only ever picked up fragments of the virus-to-blame, much of which are essentially naturally occurring (common cold), for lack of better vernacular on my part. Also, remember how they called it a "novel" Corona virus at the start? It wasn't; Bill Gates' Pirbright Institute had already patented the CONvid virus back in 2011 or '12, if memory serves. The propaganda was idiotic, of course, and akin to: You better put on rubber boots so that people already wearing rubber boots don't get their feet wet! Whatever CONvid was / is /wasn't / isn't is pure noise to me, however; I am focused on the crimes committed (and on-going) by "authorities" and the sell-out medical establishment, et. al and want their blood. (It reminds me of the No Planes camp in the 9/11 Truth movement (I've been a Truther since 2003.) versus the There Were Planes guys (well... not at Shanksville or the Pentagon)... it is all divisive and distracting.) Plus, no one seems to care at all about all the violations of the 1974 Privacy Act and HIPAA laws by employers when everyone went all bat-shit cray cray about demanding their employees get the "vaccine"TM and or disclose vaccination status. Is there not juicy potential for lawsuits galore there, since it is the private sector (versus people trying to sue DoD or the un-sue-able vax makers)?

Cleo's avatar

Have you Mullis’s book? Dancing in a Mindfield? A fun read with some harsh words for pharma, Fauci etc. His death was truly convenient for them. I agree with your point that the conversation must be productive however I do feel that getting to the bottom of this particular issue is key. If there can be no contagious spread of killer virus then there can never be a case for quarantine, passports or any measures. Although that doesn’t seem to bother them…

Freedom Farmer's avatar

I appreciate your point(s). No, I haven't read his book. Thanks for that! I will seek out a copy.

Learningneverstops's avatar

Check out Dr David Martins patent history breakdown.

2001 apparently for this patented unnatural sequence.

Factscinator's avatar

He's come out recently and said there is no SARS COV2 virus in an interview with Alec Zeck. Martin has even put that statement on record in a court case. I've read his patent record and there is a disclaimer early that he takes no responsibility for the language used in the official patent record. He was simply trying to use the language of corrupt actors against them to build a criminal case. Didnt work so now he's public that there are no viruses.

Factscinator's avatar

He's come out and said there is no virus causing COVID

Factscinator's avatar

He went to court in Utah and put in his deposition that there is no SARS COV2 virus. His work on patents has a disclaimer that hes not responsible for the language used in patent applications.

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Factscinator's avatar

No, he sez viruses don't exist. There is no SARS COV2 and NO SARS 1.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Exactly right. Stop focusing on this tree or that tree and focus on the proverbial forest. Stop getting caught in the minutiae that DON'T MATTER NOW

Just BeNice's avatar

Ok let’s say there was no “Covid.”

People WERE sick.

They were sick with something.

A flu then.

Still needed to be treated.

And the “vaccine” was given as a cure, which instead created more sickness.

Cleo's avatar

For me, whether it’s contagious or not is very important. And to a lesser extent, whether it’s something new. We can get sick due to our own personal environment or body being toxic in some way and that includes what we eat, drink, any medications or injections we have in our body. It also includes radiation. Loss of taste and smell is a classic radiation sickness symptom and that was a very common experience for people. I don’t know the cause but it’s an important conversation to have. My point being, it’s the contagious part of the story that is the excuse for the tyranny.

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kordelas's avatar

No one has proven that so-called flus and colds are infectious or are caused by alleged viruses. Existence of alleged viruses has not been proven as well.

Cleo's avatar

Imagine for a moment that there was something toxic in or around your home. Your body would detox (hopefully) I.e coughing, vomiting, these are all signs of the body trying to remove something. Your family visit and then they have the same symptoms. It could be something in the environment and not necessarily passed from person to person.

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Cleo's avatar

I am describing a scientific theory and have provided a further reading source. My intention is to explore ideas and hoping to learn something. We live in a very strange world!

One last point, a town is a shared environment. Never seen Erin Brocovich?! ;) But who knows! All the best 👍

kordelas's avatar

Are you claiming that you have directly seen alleged viruses in real time?

Cleo's avatar

The question is whether the condition that many experienced in 2021 (most had a very unusual loss of taste or smell, fatigue, nausea, as I understand and also experienced myself) was a contagious virus. Catching colds or bugs is a different issue. There is a popular book ‘Bechamp or Pasteur’ by Ethel Hume on that subject which I have on my reading list! I completely agree that the experimental drugs and oppression are totally unacceptable regardless.

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Cleo's avatar

Having facts that affect our health and human rights established is important in my opinion. As is discussing ideas. I don’t understand people who go onto discussion boards and complain about people having discussion!

kordelas's avatar

FYI people who were sharing information that no virus has ever been proven in history of virology in the beginning of 2020 also warned people that it is all about control of the masses by usurpers-parasites.

Factscinator's avatar

There was no excess death during the Scamdemic cos there was no virus killing people. The excess deaths followed the Kill Shot roll outs. People get sick all the time but not from viruses. They don't exist.

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Factscinator's avatar

Hello. If Meryl doesn't want pushback she shouldn't go on public rants against those questioning the pseudoscience of viroliegy. Her last message of 2023 was such a rant. Would you like the link?

Observation?? This just reiterates the paucity of evidence the ‘virus‘ crowd has. You can't have contagion of something that doesn't exist. All contagion studies to date have failed to infect a single individual, most notably Roseneau 1918, and the British influenza unit which ran contagion studies for decades without a single success story.

Meryl is a big girl and you‘re not her mother. She is more than capable of standing her ground, shaky though it is. If you can cite one valid study with a control to show the isolation of a virus, I will shut up. I'm guessing you can't.

frankly's avatar

How is this a comment that gets voted up? A fake test? Inappropriately used sure but fake?

It's a very powerful device. Ban this poster and all of those who upvoted it.

StellaMaris's avatar

What is the issue? I left this comment for Cleo....is there a problem here.....

frankly's avatar

Yeah go start your own no such thing as a virus site and leave Dr. Nass in peace.

Factscinator's avatar

If you don't like free discourse get off Substack and peddle the virus lie on Facebook. They like the lie there. You will fit right in.

frankly's avatar

You gang up on a nice lady who has saved patients lives, I don't expect you can feel shame but if you could, you would.

Factscinator's avatar

Btw, Meryl is the reason I'm even bothering to post. I had made the decision to stay out of this heated public arena perceiving legions of aggravation. That all changed after reading Meryls New Years Eve rant against those calling out Viroliegy‘s many deceptions. If you're gonna do that as a farewell message you'd better have evidence to back you up. She doesn't. If she doesn't want push back then she should refrain from ridiculous rants. Now, I'm glad she did. Her rants help Team Viroliegy is BS immeasurably 😀✌️

StellaMaris's avatar

What is your problem..... different opinions and facts should not hurt your feelings...... don't like a comment, then move on..... I don't tell you what to think or write about on your substack...

You’re Only For Free Speech If You Defend It For People You Hate

We should protect people physically, not emotionally https://public.substack.com/p/youre-only-for-free-speech-if-you

Factscinator's avatar

Frankly is a free speech abolitionist, dedicated to not citing any evidence for the existence of a virus. Frankly, keep digging that hole for ya‘self. “Hello down there!!“

frankly's avatar

Ok I'll bite, evidence for virus. There are university courses that offer courses and a title called Virologist. Dr. Nass has observed them under a microscope, do you have one?

Factscinator's avatar

typo.... abolitionist

frankly's avatar

I am indifferent, hate is a luxury I rarely embrace. There is an important conversation to be had and this flight of fancy is not moving things forward. Dr. Nass explains it brilliantly here, but apparently most of the no virus type may read but comprehending is out of their league.

Factscinator's avatar

We understand one thing you will never grasp: The importance of not peddling the very lie that keeps the sociopaths at the World Homocide Organization in business.

StellaMaris's avatar

This was your first comment to my comment that was not even directed at you, "Yeah go start your own no such thing as a virus site and leave Dr. Nass in peace." doesn't sound kind or friendly....almost has a twist of hate there.....I agree that there is an important conversation and this includes hearing things that are uncomfortable or hard to hear.....

Responding to Meryl Nass's Claims About the New York City Event and "COVID" https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/responding-to-meryl-nasss-claims

Theresa Connelly's avatar

Everywhere we go, in literally every domain of society, polarization is being fomented. We MUST push... and push HARD against this. Strive to find a point of agreement with the person you're arguing with, and go from there. Coming to blows with each other is the agenda of those who want to control us and draw our attention away from what needs to be exposed. We can't lose the plot now, folks.

Christine FOIs's avatar

Should we push hard against everyone opposing the official narrative too, and strive to find a point of agreement with the perps?

Delphi Pilgrim's avatar

I applaud you for saying this. This bitchy infighting has really made me despondent at times since it casts a long shadow over the prospects of ever righting this ship and sailing towards a better world. Enough of this egoic crap. Don't make needless enemies out of each other or we're effed in the A.

michael janket's avatar

Easier said than done.

TiredCitizen's avatar

There is no righting of this ship

Feral Meryl's avatar

Slowly slowly people are revealing the flaws in ALL our thinking. The ones who saw through the scam to begin with might think they’re immune, but none of us are immune to the fundamental unconscious illogicalities we all participate in on a daily basis.

All each of us have to go on is our own personal experience. Those experiences are as unique as each of us are and the variables that impinge on each context we each find ourselves in are a combination of common and unique factors. We are trying to derive the common factors - and only the common factors - from billions of individual experiences. This is one of the major flaws of the scientific method. The insistence on replicability biases us to the common every time, dismissing the unique as insignificant simply because it’s not common. This is ludicrous since life can always take multiple pathways to the same end result. This means we progressively eliminate more and more of the relevant variables and in doing so, lose sight of the processes altogether. Hence the current replicability crisis ...

The world is an insanely complex place, the number of variables are literally infinite, and we simply don’t have the mental capacity to come even remotely close to understanding a fraction of it, let alone modelling it. (Forget AI. It can’t do it either since it’s just an aggregator of our collective stupidity.)

So we simplify the world to the point we can get our tiny heads around it, making the fundamental error of losing sight of that action of gross simplification and instead trying to make the world fit into ever more simplistic models of it. It won’t. And it can’t. The damage we’ve done to the biosphere should already make this blindingly obvious to us. (And I’m not talking about the ‘climate crisis’ but our destruction of functional ecosystems.)

In my view, we HAVE to acknowledge complexity and our own inadequacy to comprehend it to resolve this.

Dan Star's avatar

That’s why I am a Conservative in the classical sense. We hardly know anything. Don’t shoot the messenger. Biotech is a complete failure and genetic sequencing even down to the cell level has led to no therapies yet it’s hyped with the new savior AI.

TiredCitizen's avatar

That complexity shows who God is and what HE created.

farmgirl42's avatar

Beautifully said!

And consistently the voice of reason, Dr Meryl 💜 Thank you!

Allowing or contributing to being fractured hurts us in so many ways and we don't have this 'luxury'.

We can debate our differences without collapsing relationships, accusations, etc.

In WWI, I imagine the men (and boys) in the trenches looking to their left and their right and saying, "They have my back and I have theirs. Our enemy is in front of us." Let's be more like them.

Donald Hennings's avatar

Divide and conquer really works, doesn't it.

Elizabeth's avatar

"The world-class psychological warfare purveyors managed to turn the world into two camps that hated each other."

I did not read Meryl's whole piece. But just this first part is not true. Yes for some it has been so. But not for all.

There is never an all.

Elizabeth's avatar

She could have said many or some, into two camps, but she wrote the world into two camps. It bears thinking about, it can stoke hatred such black and white wording or thinking. And how one can take the pulse of this I think is fairly impossible.

Elizabeth's avatar

It's implied by the words used. Not my thinking, not my words.

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Elizabeth's avatar

She could have said many or some, into two camps, but she wrote the world into two camps. It bears thinking about, it can stoke hatred such black and white wording or thinking. And how one can take the pulse of this I think is fairly impossible.

(one could also ask why I took it that way, generate a conversation, a discussion, instead of your response.)

Elizabeth's avatar

It's implied by the words used. Not my thinking, not my words.

Frank Drevin's avatar

I didn't see this. I had almost the same exact comment.

Darren Overton's avatar

It’s an important distinction and what must happen is discussion. If pandemics are not possible, we must know that and we must know it as soon as possible.

My Brother was very ill at the beginning but what he got was not what I got. He said he felt like he had been poisoned with a toxin rather than having a respiratory coronavirus.

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GiGi's avatar

The "no Covid" group are often misunderstood. "No virus" doesn't equate to "no pathogen" so surprised you basically miss this huge distinction. You are 99% down other rabbit holes like the WHO treaty now, but I have listened to thousands of hours of all sides and the "no virus" arguments are full of subtleties and nuances which they could do a better job at verbalizing. Should really be thought of as "Covid is a pathogen but not a virus" because i only hear hand waving arguments to their excellent points (e.g. "we see 'viruses' under a microscope" but what if it is just an exosome our body produces in response to a pathogen exposure?)

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GiGi's avatar

If viruses as we were taught don't really exist, then the potential lack of contagion is huge point that could reduce fear! Finding the real truth could take their fear power away, lead to more people waking up and finally putting 'vax for everything' goals to bed forever!

kordelas's avatar

People clearly point out that such things as biological viruses have never been proven. It is not a belief. Ignoring this fact is stupid. Also it does not mean that something absolutely does not exist because absolute non existence of something can't be proven. The thing is that the burden of proof is on those who make positive claims about existence of something. So where is a proof that viruses are real and based on it vital decisions can be made?

frankly's avatar

Word salad worth gagging on.

kordelas's avatar

Typical projection from someone who does not have valid arguments.

But keep coping.

Factscinator's avatar

Kordelas, frankly never tires of serially revealing his ignorance

Jewell's avatar

Thank you Meryl - you have put into words what many of us have been observing. Many people are questioning what they were taught and believed about the world (be it biology, human health, climate, the physical world, politics, history, religion, past events....). This in itself is good - we have been lied to and many of us failed to question things. This went from a humbling experience to admitting being bamboozled to adamantly claiming to have the answers and dismissing any evidence which questions the new belief.

There is the part of human nature that makes folks seek out others who subscribe to the same beliefs and form tribes - then to defend against those that don't share your beliefs. COVID became a religion and many folks that questioned the official narrative were excommunicated. Those that were, naturally sought others for support. The more followers they received in their narrative resulted in greater self-confidence. Then like any organization - others started gaining support and formed new tribes. You can compare this to the number of religious sects that forms all stemming from the main central belief but all professing theirs is the only way to salvation.

Whether the illness came from a virus, a synthetic bio-weapon or something else - people were affected and various prohibited drugs and natural remedies improved their condition, while certain government prescribed countermeasures and treatments led to higher morbidity and mortality. Based on everything I have read and experienced, I am of the belief that all of this was planned and controlled. But if someone could provide me with evidence contrary to this - I am more than willing to listen.

I fear that many of these folks that now acknowledge that their understanding of things which they once adamantly defended were incorrect are now making the same arrogant mistakes i.e., throwing out everything that does not fit with their new found belief system. The formation of these competing groups may be a spontaneous or controlled. I don't know. What I do know is that no one group has all the pieces of the puzzle and I don't think anyone knows what the actual puzzle looks like. But while we sit here distracted forcing things to fit -the global parasites are laughing as we play into their hands, yet again.

Carole's avatar

Yes! Long ago a government agency determined that only 13 % of the population could think critically. Great odds for control. And now we have all these scientific arguments meant to confuse. Spike protein in the air and inhaled: bad. Spike protein in syringe injected: good.

TiredCitizen's avatar

It absolutely was planned and war gamed. Look up Event 201 sponsored by Johns Hopkins in the Fall of 2019. I also used to think the anti-vaxx people were nuts and wrote about that many times. I was 100% WRONG. Many people have woken up. (the true use of that word btw), but it just gets disheartening to still see people wearing a mask FOUR YEARS LATER or see the look of panic if you cough (because it is pollen season in the SE) or hand them something. I went to a lunch meeting a week ago. Someone asked me to pass them something on the table. I did. "please put it down on the table." I thought what the heck?! Then I realized when she asked for something else, she didn't want to take it from another person directly. It is sad to see the mental insanity that has descended on so many, but as I wrote earlier God told us these days would come. Just so hard to see how fast and how hard.

Angie Renee's avatar

Well said, I agree with your assessment.

Karyne's avatar

Agreed. If this infighting gets any worse we will see the general public supporters disappear. That’s the last thing we need. Everybody, drop your ego. Nobody, but nobody, agrees 100% with everything one of their heroes thinks or says. That goes for everyone we know. The childishness is off the charts.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Completely agree. The entire point is to get us against each other. STOP IT. Stop acting like preschoolers fighting for the same toy. GROW UP AND STOP IT

Factscinator's avatar

ChIldish?? Like asking for evidence. Hhhm

frankly's avatar

Their are many who ignored what to me is one of Dr. Nass' best articles. If they carry on in spite of what she wrote, they are on an agenda that is not pro human. Ban em. Let them make a sub stack of their own.

Factscinator's avatar

Frankly, if Meryl is going to attack those calling out viroligy‘s BS she should expect some blowback. Stop moddy coddling her. Are you her nanny?

frankly's avatar

Honestly who cares about the details. Bottom line we banter about the bits while they are filling in the blanks on a rule book to enslave us all.

Okay there is no such thing as a virus, can we get on with denying the globalists the right to use our children in any way they like?

Factscinator's avatar

No virus!! Marvelous!! Sure, we can deny those sociopath globalists!! Time for The World Homocide Organization to go!!

frankly's avatar

Can I still put iodine in my saline rinse after sharing a car ride with a symptomatic person?

kordelas's avatar

What articles?

Name them.

frankly's avatar

Man an AI mistake. This article numb nuts, the one you didn't even read.

Factscinator's avatar

Anyone who is serially this rude is probably a deeply self-loathing creature.

kordelas's avatar

It is her and her followers who ignore valid arguments. You can't create something properly with unreasonable and illogical people.

BAwls's avatar

The competing and ever-evolving narratives surrounding ALL aspects of the "COVID" scaredemic are a multi-headed hydra spawning new offspring by the minute -- as we speak.

The essential point is that the advocates of whatever-theory are cannibalizing one and another.

It is divide and conquer -- perhaps the most effective tools of the oppressor in human history.

One must step back several levels to see the forest for the trees.

Jeanette's avatar

I simply don't understand why Barick, Daszik, and the Whuhan doctor have not been questioned. As well, why hasn't their lab work, papers, notes, computers been taken and poured over so all can see exactly what they 'created'. At the very least, at UNC Chapel Hill, there had to be lab interns and students helping with this GOF. Since Barick has disappeared, find the others in the lab. ( And isn't it interesting that no one can find Barick and he told his friends he'd be gone and unavailable?) We would have our answers if we went right to the source.

On another note, don't forget parasites. From microscopic, to large enough to see by the eye. They are everywhere. We treat our animals regularly with antiparasitics, why not ourselves? And why did ivermectin, which is an antiparasitic, work so well on COVID? And by the way, it-as well as another antiparasitic called fenbendazole- have anti cancer properties. Is it as simple as parasites that have been 'gain of functioned' much like ticks ( a blood sucking parasite ) to create Lyme disease, and mosquitoes, ( another blood sucking parasite) to create West Nile and only Bill Gates knows what else as he releases millions of his new and improved mosquitoes to 'test' his latest disease. Bird flu anyone?

Angie Renee's avatar

Good points.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Do you mean Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill?