So, no matter how you slice it, people are worse off with a bivalent booster (i.e. "up to date"). Whether a person was recently previously infected ("natural immunity" from the infection) or not, in either of those cases the "up to date" people fared worse. And that's just in terms of protection from COVID. It doesn't even touch upon any of the adverse effects from these poison injections.
So, another nail in the arguments that these shots are not effective. We already know they are not safe.
We don't need any more proof, but quite a few people still do. And it is especially important that well-meaning people in positions of "authority" to impose mandates (governments, licensing boards, employers, shopkeepers who might want to exclude you from doing business...) understand all of this not-so-difficult information ("science") to prevent the totalitarian path we are still on. This fight is far from over.
No Never Injected Control Group? I would argue that Public Health Agencies didn't "morph" into anything, They were military creations from the beginning.
My personal sovereign body-works have performed very well for 73 years. So, I couldn't care less what the crapland clinic says. Living without drugs, vaccines and mRNA horrors is the only way to go because whatever cures or healthy living you seek, rest assured they will be found outside of the modern stone age medical mafia.
I bet this hybrid immunity myth applies to shingles risk re: adults who had wild chicken pox as kids and not shingles shot as adults, compared to: adults who had wild chicken pox and did get shingles shot; adults who had chicken pox vaccines as kids but not shingles vax as adults; and adults who had chicken pox vaccine as kids, had shingles as adults, and got the shingles shot afterwards.
There is a lot of things being said in this article and in the comments which are not as generally true as the writers imply.
"“Hybrid immunity” was coined as being something relevant for COVID protection when the bivalent boosters were authorized at the end of August 2022. But it was just another lie."
Since the context of this is August 2022, a study of outcomes in 2023 cannot turn what was true then into a lie now. You should look at the Cleveland Clinic study following that time to see the impact of the boosters. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.11.14.22282310v1.full-text November 14, 2022.
"Previous Delta infection provided no protection against reinfection with Omicron subvariants BA.4/BA.5 and minimal protection against hospitalization. However, prior infection with earlier Omicron subvariants BA.1/BA.2 offered significant, albeit modest, protection against both reinfection and hospitalization. Up-to-date vaccination provided modest protection against hospitalization for both patients included in the Delta and BA.1/BA.2 analyses."
In short, natural immunity from Delta gave no protections against BA.4/BA.5, but boosters did.
Also, you can't just look at the pictures and jump to conclusions. You need to read the text. Nowhere does the text of any of the Cleveland Clinic studies say that the vaccines have "negative effectivity", only that infections provide greater protection than vaccinations. There's a big difference.
You really should look back to the Delta timeframe and then you wouldn't be making so many foolish and erroneous statements about vaccines being ineffective.
For people who only have time to look at pictures:
When your cells are being modified by injected genetic dirty bombs bad things happen. Immunity to covid is almost irrelevant. They should be asking what the hell is in these shots.
I'm disgusted that all this insanity is still going on. Statistics show that these injections cause more infections and illness...and yet the carnage continues. The word vaccine implies that this shot will totally stop one from getting the disease...and it is not working out this way. The only ones benefitting from these very toxic injections are the people who are selling them.
Using a HC organization, in my mind, may skew the statistics somewhat, especially one with the majority being nurses.
I believe that the repeated exposures that frontline workers are subjected to somehow increases their immunity to infection to a point where their defenses will eventually stop infection.
Yes--very hard to do, but most hospital workers are 'public facing' workers. The one time I recall seeing exposure done well was in an anthrax paper from 63 years ago--different parts of the factory (rooms) had different exposures to inhaled anthrax spores, depending how much dust from goat hairs there was. You could culture plates or air that was vaccuummed up and compare them in different rooms.
What brought this repeated exposure theory to mind is a friend of mine as an EMT never got covid, and he argued that it was because of his constant masking. I tried the " you can't stop a blackfly with a page wire fence" argument to no avail.
He continued to wear a mask constantly up until about two months ago.
So, no matter how you slice it, people are worse off with a bivalent booster (i.e. "up to date"). Whether a person was recently previously infected ("natural immunity" from the infection) or not, in either of those cases the "up to date" people fared worse. And that's just in terms of protection from COVID. It doesn't even touch upon any of the adverse effects from these poison injections.
So, another nail in the arguments that these shots are not effective. We already know they are not safe.
We don't need any more proof, but quite a few people still do. And it is especially important that well-meaning people in positions of "authority" to impose mandates (governments, licensing boards, employers, shopkeepers who might want to exclude you from doing business...) understand all of this not-so-difficult information ("science") to prevent the totalitarian path we are still on. This fight is far from over.
Regarding the Great Kennedy vs. Hotez Debate that won't happen ... If you are scared Dr. Hotez (and you are), say you're scared.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/the-great-debate-that-wont-happen
https://rumble.com/v2uo9nk-c40-cities-the-future-of-urban-consumption-in-a-1.5c-world.html tongue and groove totalitarianism at the municipal level. Get this to your friends neighbors farmers restaurant industry local bias chambers of commerce etc etc. Then descend on your Municipality
No Never Injected Control Group? I would argue that Public Health Agencies didn't "morph" into anything, They were military creations from the beginning.
No FDA once upon a time was a regulator. Not perfect, but the premier regulator in the world pre 1992 and the PDUF Act.
There were likely no unvaxed employees remaining at the Cleveland Clinic. All fired for "non-compliance," I'd venture.
The gaslighting by the FDA continues because big Pharma tells them what to do!
My personal sovereign body-works have performed very well for 73 years. So, I couldn't care less what the crapland clinic says. Living without drugs, vaccines and mRNA horrors is the only way to go because whatever cures or healthy living you seek, rest assured they will be found outside of the modern stone age medical mafia.
I posted an earlier version on Facebook and received three warnings about misinformation etc.
Curious: If you work for a research hospital, are you automatically considered a subject for any applicable study? Can you opt out?
I bet this hybrid immunity myth applies to shingles risk re: adults who had wild chicken pox as kids and not shingles shot as adults, compared to: adults who had wild chicken pox and did get shingles shot; adults who had chicken pox vaccines as kids but not shingles vax as adults; and adults who had chicken pox vaccine as kids, had shingles as adults, and got the shingles shot afterwards.
Interesting question, Aliss.
There is a lot of things being said in this article and in the comments which are not as generally true as the writers imply.
"“Hybrid immunity” was coined as being something relevant for COVID protection when the bivalent boosters were authorized at the end of August 2022. But it was just another lie."
Since the context of this is August 2022, a study of outcomes in 2023 cannot turn what was true then into a lie now. You should look at the Cleveland Clinic study following that time to see the impact of the boosters. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.11.14.22282310v1.full-text November 14, 2022.
"Previous Delta infection provided no protection against reinfection with Omicron subvariants BA.4/BA.5 and minimal protection against hospitalization. However, prior infection with earlier Omicron subvariants BA.1/BA.2 offered significant, albeit modest, protection against both reinfection and hospitalization. Up-to-date vaccination provided modest protection against hospitalization for both patients included in the Delta and BA.1/BA.2 analyses."
In short, natural immunity from Delta gave no protections against BA.4/BA.5, but boosters did.
Also, you can't just look at the pictures and jump to conclusions. You need to read the text. Nowhere does the text of any of the Cleveland Clinic studies say that the vaccines have "negative effectivity", only that infections provide greater protection than vaccinations. There's a big difference.
You really should look back to the Delta timeframe and then you wouldn't be making so many foolish and erroneous statements about vaccines being ineffective.
For people who only have time to look at pictures:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2022/04/01/2021.06.01.21258176/F3.large.jpg
For people who know how to read:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v4.full-text
Kudos for upgrading letters to white! Although I usually use "read aloud" app, I need to read if it's worth listening.
I do not vaccinate at all since I don't remember when, neither I intake any vaccinations. I don't have seasonal flues...
I'm on strict organic diet with the.balanced PH plus garlic and cayenne peppers keep -- all these keep doctors away.
Question authority they don’t have your best interest in mind. Follow the money it often leads to a graveyard. Virus what virus it’s all BS.
gates is warning about something else coming up ...
Thanks Dr. Nass. Great post.
When your cells are being modified by injected genetic dirty bombs bad things happen. Immunity to covid is almost irrelevant. They should be asking what the hell is in these shots.
I'm disgusted that all this insanity is still going on. Statistics show that these injections cause more infections and illness...and yet the carnage continues. The word vaccine implies that this shot will totally stop one from getting the disease...and it is not working out this way. The only ones benefitting from these very toxic injections are the people who are selling them.
Using a HC organization, in my mind, may skew the statistics somewhat, especially one with the majority being nurses.
I believe that the repeated exposures that frontline workers are subjected to somehow increases their immunity to infection to a point where their defenses will eventually stop infection.
Prove me wrong.
The data prove you wrong in that about 3% still got COVID during the period of observation.
For the other 97% the exposures did provide a boost.
One would have to determine what the exposure level was of that 3%.
Frontline worker vs backroom pencil pusher, eh?
Yes--very hard to do, but most hospital workers are 'public facing' workers. The one time I recall seeing exposure done well was in an anthrax paper from 63 years ago--different parts of the factory (rooms) had different exposures to inhaled anthrax spores, depending how much dust from goat hairs there was. You could culture plates or air that was vaccuummed up and compare them in different rooms.
What brought this repeated exposure theory to mind is a friend of mine as an EMT never got covid, and he argued that it was because of his constant masking. I tried the " you can't stop a blackfly with a page wire fence" argument to no avail.
He continued to wear a mask constantly up until about two months ago.
I assume he still wears one when on duty.
yeah well it happens ...