You can't discount the fact that German politicians were subjected to increasing pressure to drop the sanctions and get the pipelines flowing again was a very likely motivator for the German government to take that card right off the table and thus reduce the pressure on themselves. The big protests for an end to the sanctions fizzled out overnight along with the pipelines. And Germany is more than capable of destroying the pipelines with their own military. Their navy special forces types are more than capable of carrying it out.
You just need to ask: "Who actually benefitted from the pipelines being destroyed? And realize that like politicians the world over, those in Germany care more for their own power than they do in keeping their people comfortable. End the sanctions or blow up the pipeline, either one ends the demonstrations but only one lowers their "greenhouse gas emissions".
Even a rank amateur can see that German politicians have not been acting in the best interests of the German people for a long time, this is just another way to "end fossil fuels".
Knowing how many other major events in history have been faked (See http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html ), it's natural to suspect fakery right off the bat. The planes on 9/11 were faked. The four planes from Boston were apparently actually landed not far from Boston on a military base pretending to be part of a drill. That's how people on the planes were able to communicate with individuals and the media etc. Those planes never hit the Twin Towers or the Pentagon or crashed in Pennsylvania. Other aircraft or missiles were used instead. The Titanic and the Hindenburg were faked. Much of World War 2 in the Pacific was faked. The nuclear bombs were likely faked. I don't think the moon landings were faked, or at least not entirely.
Meryl said Russia spent billions building the pipeline. Knowing that the ruling class is all about money, it's hard to believe that they would destroy a big money maker. They usually have ways to profit from every major event. Larry Silverstein apparently got 7 billion in insurance for the twin towers etc.
You nailed it again; It’s utterly stupid to believe that Russia would sabotage its own multi billion dollar pipelines. And, both President Biden and Victoria Nuland assured the world in early 2022 that if Russia invaded Ukraine, the US would “one way or another” stop gas from flowing through the pipelines.
I suggest everybody read this (pete843substack article) about the natural gas markets in Europe and the shenanigans that have been going on for quite a while to create the current situation
Personally I would be reluctant to drive something electric next to an erupting ball of flammable gas, even underwater. Would expect the bubbles also make for terrible visibility.
Another detail they missed, that the 2.3 richter scale, 17 hour apart, explosions were well timed to both happen just before a well predicted major hurricane was about to hit the US and consume all news attention (legitimately) for likely weeks. That I think directs where to point fingers as much as anything…
Someone should ask the pilot of the US military Boeing P-8 Poseidon that was flying directly over the pipeline if he noticed anything suspicious (wink wink).
How do you confirm that this was really the flight path? What other lines of evidence are there that a P-3 was flying in the region of the explosions when they occurred?
IDK how this can be confirmed. Perhaps an air traffic controller could help out on that. I'm not familiar with the graphic that I linked to, but I played around with it a little, and it will show quite a bit of information - location, time, altitude and air speed all along the flight path. As to confirming the validity, I have no idea. I stumbled onto this on gab. I wish I could be more help. Thanks for every word you write.
I found the post that I copied the link from, and left a comment for the poster asking if he knows of any way to authenticate it. I'm hoping he will reply with something useful. Included on this post was some information, which I screenshotted, and I'll try to attach it to this reply. Information on the screenshot has to do with the ICAO 24 bit address of the plane (meaningless to me, and way out of my league). This link appears to be a computer generated flight history, complete with timestamps all along the flight path. I would think this information would have to be obtained from GPS tracking. Again, an air traffic controller might be able to shed some light on how these reports are generated, and by whom. Also, a skilled computer nerd (hacker?) might be able to tell what/who/where the source of is that this link takes you to, which might help authenticate it. I tried to attach the screenshot, but it appears that I was not successful.
Anyone thinking this was anyone but NATO/USA is a pathetically ignorant and tragically stupid fool. It's not even worth debating. It's like arguing about what gives you sunburn.
Exactly. The depth of the pipelines was 90 meters or less. There are literally hundreds of corporations in the world that possess the ability to send divers to that depth. Really the hardest part would be actually finding the pipelines on the bottom as they are going to be partially covered by sediment and not terribly visible.
And you cannot discount the Germans themselves from taking this action. The demonstrations to end the sanctions and get the pipeline flowing again was a bud of discontent that had to be nipped or they would certainly face political fallout and that has to be avoided at all costs.
And actually having the Kearsarge just leaving the areas days ago is likely more indicative that their presence was delaying those who destroyed the pipes. They leave and the "coast is clear" meant the operation could now take place with little chance of discovery as the very ships that were a part of the group with Kearsarge happen to be the most capable in the world at detection of undersea threats. They leave and suddenly there is no longer a 24/7 sonar presence keeping the wolves at bay.
Glad you're there. Someone posted that you were smarter than I. That was astute of them. I agree. I wasn't being snarky, just amazed. I am also sad about the attempted sidelining of our best and hardest working. Thanks, Dr. Nass
WaPo is a intelligence community faucet, as is the NYT. Not shocking at all, but I’m glad you consistently pick this BS apart. The whole anti Russia everything angle has been laughable for so long...
The Russians arent going to take this lying down! Theyve pretty much focused their naval experitise on underwater strategies with submarines, etc for decades. Expect retaliation! That idiot Biden and those hubristic dolts in our State Dept have finally bitten off more than Europe can tolerate and are throwing Germany to the dogs! This is about keeping this travesty going to drive markets down so Gates and Blackrock and Vanguard can buy up more at discounted prices!
Yep, reading between the lines of the propaganda... pretty much like just assume the opposite of what they say is the actual truth.
"Imperial Convulsions" is the best analysis and collection of links I could put together today.
NATO did it. Nobody else could have.
NATO was carrying out exercises in that space from mid June to mid September.
https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/imperial-convulsions
The ruling class is the same everywhere on Earth and they control NATO and everything else. It sounds like the explosion could have been faked.
You can't discount the fact that German politicians were subjected to increasing pressure to drop the sanctions and get the pipelines flowing again was a very likely motivator for the German government to take that card right off the table and thus reduce the pressure on themselves. The big protests for an end to the sanctions fizzled out overnight along with the pipelines. And Germany is more than capable of destroying the pipelines with their own military. Their navy special forces types are more than capable of carrying it out.
You just need to ask: "Who actually benefitted from the pipelines being destroyed? And realize that like politicians the world over, those in Germany care more for their own power than they do in keeping their people comfortable. End the sanctions or blow up the pipeline, either one ends the demonstrations but only one lowers their "greenhouse gas emissions".
Even a rank amateur can see that German politicians have not been acting in the best interests of the German people for a long time, this is just another way to "end fossil fuels".
and for that you win the cigar!
right on the money!
I think the explosion was faked.
then what did happen?
Knowing how many other major events in history have been faked (See http://mileswmathis.com/updates.html ), it's natural to suspect fakery right off the bat. The planes on 9/11 were faked. The four planes from Boston were apparently actually landed not far from Boston on a military base pretending to be part of a drill. That's how people on the planes were able to communicate with individuals and the media etc. Those planes never hit the Twin Towers or the Pentagon or crashed in Pennsylvania. Other aircraft or missiles were used instead. The Titanic and the Hindenburg were faked. Much of World War 2 in the Pacific was faked. The nuclear bombs were likely faked. I don't think the moon landings were faked, or at least not entirely.
Meryl said Russia spent billions building the pipeline. Knowing that the ruling class is all about money, it's hard to believe that they would destroy a big money maker. They usually have ways to profit from every major event. Larry Silverstein apparently got 7 billion in insurance for the twin towers etc.
Exactly so!
You nailed it again; It’s utterly stupid to believe that Russia would sabotage its own multi billion dollar pipelines. And, both President Biden and Victoria Nuland assured the world in early 2022 that if Russia invaded Ukraine, the US would “one way or another” stop gas from flowing through the pipelines.
Who controls energy prices in Europe?
https://pete843.substack.com/p/high-natural-gas-prices-everyone
I suggest everybody read this (pete843substack article) about the natural gas markets in Europe and the shenanigans that have been going on for quite a while to create the current situation
Is there anything they don't blame on Putin? They have cried wolf far too much. THey think we are stupid... are we?
Millions and millions of Americans believe everything the NY Times tells them. They're not stupid; they're deceived.
Personally I would be reluctant to drive something electric next to an erupting ball of flammable gas, even underwater. Would expect the bubbles also make for terrible visibility.
Another detail they missed, that the 2.3 richter scale, 17 hour apart, explosions were well timed to both happen just before a well predicted major hurricane was about to hit the US and consume all news attention (legitimately) for likely weeks. That I think directs where to point fingers as much as anything…
Someone should ask the pilot of the US military Boeing P-8 Poseidon that was flying directly over the pipeline if he noticed anything suspicious (wink wink).
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae6851&lat=53.201&lon=14.206&zoom=8.8&showTrace=2022-09-26×tamp=1664154207
How do you confirm that this was really the flight path? What other lines of evidence are there that a P-3 was flying in the region of the explosions when they occurred?
IDK how this can be confirmed. Perhaps an air traffic controller could help out on that. I'm not familiar with the graphic that I linked to, but I played around with it a little, and it will show quite a bit of information - location, time, altitude and air speed all along the flight path. As to confirming the validity, I have no idea. I stumbled onto this on gab. I wish I could be more help. Thanks for every word you write.
I found the post that I copied the link from, and left a comment for the poster asking if he knows of any way to authenticate it. I'm hoping he will reply with something useful. Included on this post was some information, which I screenshotted, and I'll try to attach it to this reply. Information on the screenshot has to do with the ICAO 24 bit address of the plane (meaningless to me, and way out of my league). This link appears to be a computer generated flight history, complete with timestamps all along the flight path. I would think this information would have to be obtained from GPS tracking. Again, an air traffic controller might be able to shed some light on how these reports are generated, and by whom. Also, a skilled computer nerd (hacker?) might be able to tell what/who/where the source of is that this link takes you to, which might help authenticate it. I tried to attach the screenshot, but it appears that I was not successful.
Very relevant commentary on this:
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/28/the-timing-of-the-pipeline-attack/
Anyone thinking this was anyone but NATO/USA is a pathetically ignorant and tragically stupid fool. It's not even worth debating. It's like arguing about what gives you sunburn.
Exactly. The depth of the pipelines was 90 meters or less. There are literally hundreds of corporations in the world that possess the ability to send divers to that depth. Really the hardest part would be actually finding the pipelines on the bottom as they are going to be partially covered by sediment and not terribly visible.
And you cannot discount the Germans themselves from taking this action. The demonstrations to end the sanctions and get the pipeline flowing again was a bud of discontent that had to be nipped or they would certainly face political fallout and that has to be avoided at all costs.
And actually having the Kearsarge just leaving the areas days ago is likely more indicative that their presence was delaying those who destroyed the pipes. They leave and the "coast is clear" meant the operation could now take place with little chance of discovery as the very ships that were a part of the group with Kearsarge happen to be the most capable in the world at detection of undersea threats. They leave and suddenly there is no longer a 24/7 sonar presence keeping the wolves at bay.
Glad you're there. Someone posted that you were smarter than I. That was astute of them. I agree. I wasn't being snarky, just amazed. I am also sad about the attempted sidelining of our best and hardest working. Thanks, Dr. Nass
They been blaming Russia and Putin too long as I been alive. That is longer than nUkraine, r I p.
When the outcome of an election is disliked, blame Putin.
When the war goes wrong , evil Russia.
But give credit where due.
Those who were elected sold out , and they sold out their country.
Do you have any reasonable hope for any future in America ?
I don't.
Pray to God,. These old ghosts like Joey BidenHo and ScKamala hardly know their own dammm names, they ain't fit to lead but maybe a donkeycart
Ukraine is about senatorial graft, North Sea oil, testing American weapon systems and tactics, and Russian weapons systems and tactics.
And diverting attention away from Covid vax injuries and deaths.
WaPo is a intelligence community faucet, as is the NYT. Not shocking at all, but I’m glad you consistently pick this BS apart. The whole anti Russia everything angle has been laughable for so long...
The Russians arent going to take this lying down! Theyve pretty much focused their naval experitise on underwater strategies with submarines, etc for decades. Expect retaliation! That idiot Biden and those hubristic dolts in our State Dept have finally bitten off more than Europe can tolerate and are throwing Germany to the dogs! This is about keeping this travesty going to drive markets down so Gates and Blackrock and Vanguard can buy up more at discounted prices!
Black is white, up is down, it's pure Orwell now.