I was 72 when early on I got sick with "COVID" I was in really bad shape but I was not going to the hospital because I knew I would never come home again. If this were to be the end for me I was going to leave this earth under my own will. I was fortunate enough to know a doctor that believed the pandemic was a sham and refusing to treat people with the FLU was wrong. She gave me HCQ AND Ivermectin, Prednisone, AZ, NAC and later added aspirin because my breathing was not coming around as well as she felt it should and she said they were seeing lung clots in COVID patients. She also extended my time on HCQ from 5 days to 10 days. It took 3 weeks but I came through. I think it took a while for me to respond because I waited too long before I contacted her. It took a long time for my sense of taste and smell to return but it eventually did return. I bet if RFK Jr. took testimony from the many, many thousands of people that opted to buck the system and get treated outside the draconian protocols from the CDC/WHO he would be surprised how many people were saved by HCQ and Ivermectin.
There is this huge problem with non-clinicians; they refuse to accept the fact that RCTs can be rigged, especially when funded by the likes of NIH and Gilead. I wonder why no one has advised Mr. Kennedy to look into real-world data from India, where millions were prescribed IVM at the height of the pandemic. An Indian physician who used IVM during the Delta phase does not need to look at studies conducted by incentivized people. I would go further and say that Mr.Kennedy should not waste his valuable time sparring with doctors who have never treated a single patient with COVID. The current sub-lineages of XBB recover without any medication; they don't even need ivermectin because, despite being immune-evasive and very infective,they are much milder. I ignore ivermetin sceptics.
Who wins are the people using these substance and other natural goodies who have survived. The losers always have a higher risk of death when relying on other big pharma drugs and the medical mafia.
This is the debate that should have happened in 2020 if we had a functioning democracy. The fact that it didn’t happen is reason enough to burn DC down it needs to be defunded there is only one way to kill the bureaucratic monster that lied to us and that’s to starve it if funds. Have Mr Kennedy make that pledge and he will have my vote.
Prasad is institutionalized. He’s a member of the San Francisco institutional medicine community both associated with killing institutions AKA as hospitals and indoctrination centers, formerly known as institutions of higher learning or universities.
His credentials compared to RFK Jr. - author of “The Real Anthony Fauci” - leave little doubt as to who would win the debate even before it started.
I don't know why I thought I would hear anything other than obfuscation from Prasad. And that's what I heard. Regarding RFK's argument about how the prevalence of autoimmune disease after 1989 has to be associated with the vaccine schedule, Prasad said, with careful thought: "The Berlin Wall also came down during that period." Interesting choice of metaphor for a person who's retort to grounded claims challenging the standard narrative is, itself, so walled in.
I am so glad RFK responded to Prasad's assertion (which he has been banging on about for a long time for some reason). I wonder if Prasad is under the impression that he is the only medical school professor who can read a study, because that is his schtick, that people can't analyze studies. Yet as you know, a number of famous and well-regarded medical school professors DO believe the evidence shows IVM and HCQ are very effective.
Prasad is wrong to dismiss out of hand the clinical experience and observations of physicians that have treated hundreds, even thousands of covid patients with IVM or HCQ.
Wow, so glad to see a challenge mounted to Vinay's obsession with RCTs that were so obviously manipulated! He bows down to RCTs as if to a religion, and then claims to be science-based. Surely he knows you can design an RCT to prove whatever you set out to.
We all win when we are allowed to hear and consider differing substantive opinions in medicine. If you get 5 surgeons in a room, you will get 7 different opinions, because a few will change their mind!
This is of course even more true for a democracy. That we are having debates about whether to debate is a sign of the sickness in our society. RFK appears to correctly understand he must first educate, which means gong on many different platforms.
Personally, I would love to see a Lincoln Douglas between him and Vivek. Might even pay...
it looks like ivermectin can treat much more than covid .......... a lot of illness/disease is caused by various parasites in various parts of the human body..... viruses are a parasite?? apparently............. I bought 3-4 books of Dr. Hulda Clark research / books from 1990s and 2000s at drclarkstore.com. Very detailed, many case studies, etc. Current researcher ........ using studies from around the world........ posted on NIH public site.............. https://floridasharkman.org/protocol/protocol/
RFK won
I was 72 when early on I got sick with "COVID" I was in really bad shape but I was not going to the hospital because I knew I would never come home again. If this were to be the end for me I was going to leave this earth under my own will. I was fortunate enough to know a doctor that believed the pandemic was a sham and refusing to treat people with the FLU was wrong. She gave me HCQ AND Ivermectin, Prednisone, AZ, NAC and later added aspirin because my breathing was not coming around as well as she felt it should and she said they were seeing lung clots in COVID patients. She also extended my time on HCQ from 5 days to 10 days. It took 3 weeks but I came through. I think it took a while for me to respond because I waited too long before I contacted her. It took a long time for my sense of taste and smell to return but it eventually did return. I bet if RFK Jr. took testimony from the many, many thousands of people that opted to buck the system and get treated outside the draconian protocols from the CDC/WHO he would be surprised how many people were saved by HCQ and Ivermectin.
There is this huge problem with non-clinicians; they refuse to accept the fact that RCTs can be rigged, especially when funded by the likes of NIH and Gilead. I wonder why no one has advised Mr. Kennedy to look into real-world data from India, where millions were prescribed IVM at the height of the pandemic. An Indian physician who used IVM during the Delta phase does not need to look at studies conducted by incentivized people. I would go further and say that Mr.Kennedy should not waste his valuable time sparring with doctors who have never treated a single patient with COVID. The current sub-lineages of XBB recover without any medication; they don't even need ivermectin because, despite being immune-evasive and very infective,they are much milder. I ignore ivermetin sceptics.
Who wins are the people using these substance and other natural goodies who have survived. The losers always have a higher risk of death when relying on other big pharma drugs and the medical mafia.
This is the debate that should have happened in 2020 if we had a functioning democracy. The fact that it didn’t happen is reason enough to burn DC down it needs to be defunded there is only one way to kill the bureaucratic monster that lied to us and that’s to starve it if funds. Have Mr Kennedy make that pledge and he will have my vote.
I turned him off the minute he dissed IVM and HQ
Prasad is institutionalized. He’s a member of the San Francisco institutional medicine community both associated with killing institutions AKA as hospitals and indoctrination centers, formerly known as institutions of higher learning or universities.
His credentials compared to RFK Jr. - author of “The Real Anthony Fauci” - leave little doubt as to who would win the debate even before it started.
I don't know why I thought I would hear anything other than obfuscation from Prasad. And that's what I heard. Regarding RFK's argument about how the prevalence of autoimmune disease after 1989 has to be associated with the vaccine schedule, Prasad said, with careful thought: "The Berlin Wall also came down during that period." Interesting choice of metaphor for a person who's retort to grounded claims challenging the standard narrative is, itself, so walled in.
FWIW my internal radar lit up when Prasad entered the conversation; after listening to him for awhile I stopped.
I am so glad RFK responded to Prasad's assertion (which he has been banging on about for a long time for some reason). I wonder if Prasad is under the impression that he is the only medical school professor who can read a study, because that is his schtick, that people can't analyze studies. Yet as you know, a number of famous and well-regarded medical school professors DO believe the evidence shows IVM and HCQ are very effective.
Prasad is wrong to dismiss out of hand the clinical experience and observations of physicians that have treated hundreds, even thousands of covid patients with IVM or HCQ.
Dr Prasad did not come back - victory by knock out?
Wow, so glad to see a challenge mounted to Vinay's obsession with RCTs that were so obviously manipulated! He bows down to RCTs as if to a religion, and then claims to be science-based. Surely he knows you can design an RCT to prove whatever you set out to.
We all win when we are allowed to hear and consider differing substantive opinions in medicine. If you get 5 surgeons in a room, you will get 7 different opinions, because a few will change their mind!
This is of course even more true for a democracy. That we are having debates about whether to debate is a sign of the sickness in our society. RFK appears to correctly understand he must first educate, which means gong on many different platforms.
Personally, I would love to see a Lincoln Douglas between him and Vivek. Might even pay...
As usual, RFK Jr is very specific in his facts, no generalizations, and above all, he is honest and challenges to find errors.
it looks like ivermectin can treat much more than covid .......... a lot of illness/disease is caused by various parasites in various parts of the human body..... viruses are a parasite?? apparently............. I bought 3-4 books of Dr. Hulda Clark research / books from 1990s and 2000s at drclarkstore.com. Very detailed, many case studies, etc. Current researcher ........ using studies from around the world........ posted on NIH public site.............. https://floridasharkman.org/protocol/protocol/