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I came away invigorated, thrilled to be part of the army that God has brought together. I look forward to next year, new panels, new wins and a larger venue. While I went as a lawyer, next year I plan to bring at least one non-lawyer friend who is also in this fight!

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Thank you, Dr. for sharing.

I am so glad you attended as it sounds as though it was a very positive and therefore energizing event. It must have been so pleasant to be amongst fellow warriors.

Hopefully, you will now be able to relax and rest even if just for a short while.

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I hope that Thursday night's VSRF will have some tidbits of information from the conference. Not that they are going to give away any secrets, but I'd also like to hear from Steve and Louisa's perspective what will be the general outcome of the conference.

I hope that the conference was like one big support group party! You all need to feel the nurturing from a group of like-minded people!

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Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

Dr Nass, thank you...again! How you have the bandwidth to do all you do is extraordinary. Clearly your mitochondria are operating in overdrive! I continue to be humbled by you and orher giant brains leading the resistance. We will follow and act!!

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I believe the question George Webb wanted to ask RM was why he hadn't tested HCQ or IVM for efficacy against Covid back in April 2020 when the company for which he was Chief Medical Officer had the $21M contract from the Trump administration. If he had, and found either effective, there could have been no EUA and therefore no vaccine injuries and possibly few Covid deaths. Instead he tested famotidine (pepcid ac) with HCQ against HCQ alone and concluded there was no significant improvement--of course, since HCQ was already effective. Hence the EAU.

Maybe I have my facts wrong. But I think that's what George Webb wanted to ask.

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I can answer your question, which is based on misunderstanding the facts.

1. Robert Malone worked on modelling to identify drugs that might work against COVID. Many drugs were identified and THEY INCLUDED IVERMECTIN. However, ivermectin did not look to be as good a match as some other drugs, including celebrex and pepcid. In Malone's attempts to get FDA approval for a clinical trial for the DOD (I was told about this in 2021 btw) IVM was included as a drug to be tested in the human trial.

FDA would have none of it, so IVM had to be removed from the drugs tested in order to get the trial approved, which took forever anyway.

Everyone who says there would have been no EUA issued for the vaccines was not reading my work in 2020 apparently. I made very clear what the PREP Act required--that there be no adequate, available, approved substitute therapeutic. We knew before the vaccines were authorized under PREP that HCQ acted acutely against the COVID virus, and behaved like a vaccine to *prevent* covid when taken properly. We knew in Jan or Feb 2021 that IVM could do this too.

There were plenty of studies, detailed by me, Tess Lawrie, Pierre Kory, many others showing this. CHD filed a citizen petition and later filed suit against FDA pointing this out, very explicitly. I helped write it. FDA denied us.

The globalist crooks were not going to let anything stand in the way of their vaccine EUAs and anyone who says otherwise was not paying attention. The FDA had their marching orders and they followed them.

Malone still says the combo of pepcid and celebrex is very effective. Have the EUAs gone away ever? FDA (Commissioner Califf) says even after May 11 those EUAs will continue.

I am going to post my chapter in Malone's book which lays out how NIAID showed over 60 drugs were effective for deadly coronaviruses in 2014! That should have ended any EUAs. It didn't.

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Thank you for explaining that, Meryl, and for posting your chapter. It's a very inspiring story.

I am truly trying to understand and, most of all, do my small part to make sure this can never happen again. To answer Jackie's question, I think that it's a natural thing to look at someone's background when it's in conflict with their current role, and try to put the pieces together. I was just reading Robert's two articles on reforming the HHS and they're brilliant. So I'm not looking at this as black & white. But there are things that don't make sense to me.

Meryl, from Branden Borrell, the money to do the trials came from BARDA and it was Robert's DOMANE system that identified the likely candidates to be tested. But he says that Trump had made HCQ the standard of care, so he could only test famotidine with and without HCQ. Couldn't HCQ have been shown to be effective on its own? It seems like that wouldn't have required more funding than the $21M and might have been tested pre-admission, since the Trump admin was on board with it. Did the DOMANE system not identify IVM or HCQ? Thanks again for clarifying.

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I don't know the names of projects. I think some of the group that did the early modelling of repurposed drugs did ti without payment. I do not know about $21 M contracts and what they may have been for.

What I can tell you is that as a consultant Robert was paid by the hour, day or week and NEVER received a percentage of what he brought in as a grant or contract. I understand that it works differently in banking and law, but not in medical science contracting, at least it did not for him and did not for others I know.

Trump cannot and did not make HCQ a stnadard of care. As soon as Trump opined about HCQ (gift from God etc.) immediately the media and most state governments put restrictions on its use, beginning around March 20, 2020. His HHS worked against him.

The EUA was issued in March (only for donated HCQ and CQ) and revoked in June 2020, but FDA was successful in making the whole country think it applied to regular HCQ, which was restricted.

The Chinese already had about 20 HCQ trials going by March and told us in Feb 2020 it was their best drug.

Soon the c19study.com website appeared, which listed all clinical trials published and preprinted for HCQ and other possible covid drugs.

on May 22, 2020 the fabricated Lancet paper claimed HCQ and CQ were causing about 30% more deaths than usual care in 15,000 people hospitalized around the world.

Beginning in March 2020 at least 3 overdose trials started to kill off HCQ as a viable strategy::the Brazil trial, Recovery and Solidarity.

Do you really think the FDA was going to allow human trials of HCQ in any manner that would show it worked?

In May NIAID began finally an outpatient trial of HCQ and NIAID shut it down after only 20 patients were enrolled to prevent positive data from appearing.

Anyone who thinks Malone's omissions had anything to do with the suppression of HCQ and IVM is either ignorant of the facts or is a confabulator.

The entire US public health system (and this happened around the world, the WHO was involved too--read my hcq compilation). was bound and determined to prevent the drug from being used or appreciated.

You didn't need any more trials--there were plenty that showed it worked--and they were mischaracterized, hidden, and buried with fake trials designed to kill off these drugs. Lots of docs like me were using the drug early cause we read the literature. My first HCQ treatment was in mid march 2020.

Most of the early trials had almost no funding, were done by docs just trying the drug out.

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Thanks again, Meryl. It seems like we might be talking about different things. From Science Apr 2020 by Brenden Borrell:

"After [Callahan] returning from Wuhan, he briefed Robert Kadlec, assistant secretary for preparedness and response at the Department of Health and Human Services, then checked in with Robert Malone, chief medical officer of Florida-based Alchem Laboratories, a contract manufacturing organization. Malone is part of a classified project called DOMANE that uses computer simulations, artificial intelligence, and other methods to rapidly identify U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved drugs and other safe compounds that can be repurposed against threats such as new viruses. ...

"On 14 April, the U.S. Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which operates under Kadlec, gave Alchem a $20.7 million contract for the trial, most of which paid Northwell's costs.

"The study's draft protocol was aimed only at evaluating famotidine's efficacy, but Trump's "game-changer" antimalarial drug was rapidly becoming the standard of care for hospitalized COVID-19 patients. That meant investigators would only be able to recruit enough subjects for a trial that tested a combination of famotidine and hydroxychloroquine. Those patients would be compared with a hydroxychloroquine-only arm and a historic control arm made up of hundreds of patients treated earlier in the outbreak."

So it was Robert's company, Alchem, that got the $20.7M but they were collecting data on HCQ, whether in combination with famotidine or alone. And they were working for BARDA, not on their own. It seems like that should have been able to show that HCQ worked and defeat the EUA. Does that make sense?

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According to my understanding from Jill Malone, the Northwell trial was either designed to fail or was a mess in some other way, and Robert separated from it very early on and soon left alchem.

If you would read the massive amount of stuff I just posted about the evidence on HCQ from the first 7 months of 20209, you would realize you are beating a dead horse.

Your insistence that Robert Malone would have prevented the EUA, when nothing else did, is, I'm sorry, preposterous. Fantasy. I just posted about much available evidence in early 2020 and none of it stopped the EUA.

I am stupefied that anyone who looks at the facts could come up with this theory. Sorry, Tereza, but it is crazy.

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Yes, I agree with Jill that this trial was certainly designed to fail. It tested famotidine + HCQ against HCQ alone, so if HCQ was effective, it would negate any incremental effect of famotidine. But Robert would have been able to reach his own conclusions just from looking at the data that HCQ was working. Has he talked about why his DOMANE system didn't come up with HCQ or IVM? Does he still believe it's an effective modeling program?

I'm sorry you feel that I'm crazy, Meryl, but these seem like reasonable questions. No one else involved in this movement, that I'm aware of, had a close working relationship with BARDA, so much that he helped Steve get his product approved by them in their first 'serious' interaction, as Robert terms it. I don't know that he could have stopped the EUA but as the company with the tool for identifying repurposed drugs for BARDA, it seems like he'd be in the best position to.

Robert worked closely with Fauci and for the first eight months, Fauci answered to Trump who was a believer in HCQ. It seems like that could have been leveraged by someone with Robert's connections, who can get on a zoom conference with Pelosi or meet with the FDA's head of bioethics who asks Robert for professional favors. Has he ever told you what went on during that time?

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From what I understand, HCQ and IVM were on the short list of drugs. Chloroquine was already used to treat SARS1 (https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69) and Trump did use HCQ. Ivermectin was being used all over the world and governments even included it in their kits they gave out to the public. Surgisphere tried to squash these therapeutics.

Malone was attached to the multimillion dollar famotidine + HCQ trial at Alchem Laboratories which was never even completed.

Prior to COVID, Malone pushed vaccine contracts all over the world and many of them were likely linked to bioweapons. He's pretending to be anti-vaxx now possibly because DTRA or certain companies didn't get the contracts they wanted I guess. If Inovio got a COVID shot approved, Malone wouldn't be playing a dissenter. As recently as September 2021, Malone was pushing a multivalent vaccine out of India and suggested getting it to as many people as possible in the Global South. How can you (allegedly) get COVID at the second known "super spreader" event, cure yourself, then get the mRNA shots, then get injured, and then go promote a vaccine in India? Is this man's trajectory even remotely believable?

It's time to stop pretending like this is infighting and start asking people tough questions. Heroes don't sue heroes for $25 million.

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I don't think the India was an mRNA vaccine.

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Thank you, Dr. Nass.

Can you tell us the reasons Covid® symptoms needed different medicines, different from what would normally be given for the flu? (At early stages -- not when symptoms devolve into a disease state.)

The Mayo Clinic put out an article recently comparing and contrasting cold, flu, Covid®, and allergy symptoms. The symptoms for Covid® compared to flu are 𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦 the same. In fact, with their faces hanging out, Mayo Clinic says that you can actually have Covid® and the flu at the same...https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/covid-19-cold-flu-and-allergies-differences/art-20503981

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You can have multiple viruses at once. Usually you don't due to interferon and maybe other ways your body stops that.

In terms of treatment. Flu does not cause clotting, cytokine storm or organ failure in nonrespiratory organs. So covid is potentially a much more serious condition. early you treat the virus to kill it. later you treat the immune overreaction, the clotting, etc.

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Thank you, Dr. Nass.

My mother died in 1984 at age 57 after a severe bout of the flu. She went too long without any treatment. By the time she finally made it to the hospital, there was virtually nothing the doctors could do. Pneumonia, heart struggling, blue, clammy...Ultimate COD was myocardial infarction brought on by "flu complications."

If early treatment of this kind of infection fends off descent into a disease state -- and the early symptoms are exactly the same for the flu and Covid® -- can the "usual" medicines prevent that disease state?

Disease symptoms may be different at late stages and require different treatment at that point. I get that, but what was the reason for saying that American medicine had "no treatment" for the usual list of early symptoms that Mayo says are exactly the same for the flu and Covid®? To prevent a descent into a potentially deadly disease stage like those unique to Covid®?

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Thank you for this explanation. I’ve been unable to figure out why people question Dr. Malone’s motivations.

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I am convinced that his effectiveness has led to a huge expenditure of resources to discredit him, mixing some facts with some fiction, so that it sounds believable. It even confuses my friends.

The problem is that so few people were paying close enough attention or knew the actual facts to be able to untangle these false stories. When I can, I do so, and I now realize I am going to have to do a lot more of this, because it just won't stop. The globalists want a) us to fight each other, and b) they want to eliminate him.

I think they are also especially going after him because he was an insider who turned. They don't want any other insiders considering the same thing.

And they have crafted very detailed stories and keep recycling them.

George Webb should know better, but...

Finally, when you stir up controversy, you get more hits on Substack and more paid subscribers. It might be a powerful incentive to keep stirring the pot.

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Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

I appreciate you taking the time to clarify the facts. There were many of us who were on top of all of this from the beginning. The trashing of Dr Malone is bizarre. How anyone with any sense could believe that the EUAS could’ve been prevented is beyond comprehension. The fix was in-the campaign against ANY repurposed drugs that showed efficacy was in place by March 2020. People need to go back and do their research.

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Just as an aside, I've never enabled paid subscriptions on my Substack. I'm a housewife with three daughters, who spent a decade writing my book on How to Dismantle an Empire, which I self-published. You know, Meryl, that I was one of Robert's most enthusiastic supporters ... until he sued the Breggins and, because I always look at both sides, I read theirs.

On one side of that equation is a couple who made millions working within the DoD with Big Pharma and the WHO and philanthropaths (all of which is on his CV) and on the other is a couple who've had attacks on them for testifying against pharmaceutical companies to stop electroshock and suicide-inducing anti-depressants. There's not a neutral side to be on here. Are you really saying that the Breggins who wrote Covid 19 and the Global Predators: We Are the Prey are secretly on the side of the globalists? Or that anyone who's on their side must be in the pay of the WEF and their book telling exactly how we can decentralize and end the empire is just a clever ruse?

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What I am saying is that as a smart lady you have shown the ability to be logical but are not using that ability.

I think the Breggins are on the side of the Breggins. I think the Malones are on the side of the Malones. I suspect the Breggins feel they deserve the accolades the Malones have received , almsot like sibling rivalry. Best way I can make sense of it.

wrt to money,, I would guess that each earned a solid upper middle class amount since Breggin has done a lot of very lucrative expert witnessing. The Malones did not make "millions" but perhaps their farm is worth a million. They are not wealthy and they work hard caring for a horse farm and gardens and fruit trees on top of everything else.

They gave up their life for this movement in a way very few others have done. They have no consulting career to go back to. They probably live off substack. Their future is uncertain .The jealousy is unfounded.

And these speculations give the 5th gen warriors fertile soil to create rumors, innuendo, and try to destroy him.

IIf you want to be a truth warrior you chase down the facts and you use discernment regarding who you listen to.

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Malone has to do one thing to show his good faith, a thing he has stubbornly refused to do: drop the lawsuit against the Breggins. It's extremely divisive and is what turned me, and so many others, off of Malone.

The other weird thing about Malone is his support and promotion of Desmet's bizarre theory on the psychology of totalitarianism. Desmet says totalitarianism starts with our propensity for mechanistic thinking. No, it does not. It start with censorship/propaganda and surveillance directed from above, in order to promote a narrative that controls the population. We KNOW that. We've seen it. So we know another thing: Breggin is correct about Desmet. Is the lawsuit, then, in part a defense of Desmet's deceptive nonsense that says: don't look over there, look over here? Is the point to get us off the scent of the massive, ongoing censorship/propaganda campaign that's the true beginning of total control of society and is the real danger we face? Breggin is not the danger.

Isn't a lawsuit a form of censorship, a warning to others to not cross one? Breggin criticizing Malone was never a big deal; why make it into one?

Well, OK, Malone has maybe a character flaw that tends toward vindictiveness, I don't know. We can accept that, we can move on, we can stop dwelling on it but not if the lawsuit proceeds. This is the bare-bones truth. Malone, not Breggin, is causing the rift, the confusion, the backbiting. I don't agree with Dr. Alexander's language regarding Malone but I certainly understand his sentiment. The lawsuit is pure poison. Yet Malone won't back down, will he?

That's the tell. That in itself speaks volumes. And, we're listening.

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It's a tell for you. It's in a way a winner for the Breggins, who needled him like crazy, then cried poor and opened a gofundme.

Some like the desmet theory, some don't. What has that really got to do with Malone? Must be have uniform opinions now? The Breggin Malone thing is mainly about Desmet? Was Desmet the back door to get to Malone?

And I am told there were attempts at rapproachement.

But the article about 2-3 weeks ago was imho simply scurrilous and I was appallled at how so many people took it seriously. The lesson is that almost no one reads anything through anymore.

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Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

RM was cheated out of patents to the tune of $6million.

The Cabal has infinite resources to blackmail, bribe or entrap people. Let's say it was the Breggins who were told..."you did not cross this T or dot this i in your tax returns. we will fine you a huge amount and/or put you in jail. Don't bother with any lawyers, the judge is one of us. We will crash your car if you refuse." or it could be RM. We don't know.

All I know is it serves their purposes for us to be fighting. They infiltrate and disrupt. I am sure antifa and BLM were infiltrated and gutted.

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Exactly. I paid little attention to the Malone/Breggin rift until Malone threatened Breggin with an outrageous lawsuit. Then I paid attention.

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You have hit the crux of it Dr. Nass! The more energy they put into destroying someone, the bigger the threat that someone is presenting!

I asked the Breggin crowd to link some video that would explain their love. I turned it off after 5 minutes. They love bitter spiteful nastiness?

Malone is my favorite kind of hero. Expert who's been on both sides of the argument. Yeah he's a threat, to liars. The forces of evil are no doubt using AI. Like they don't have enough resources already.

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Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

One of the big issues that has received no attention is the morbidity and mortality from these nasopharyngeal swabs that are actually NP biopsies insofar as tissue is being removed with a brush or a curette. All of the videos I have seen show untrained "technicians" forcefully pushing these probes into people's nasal cavities in parallel with the nose which means that they are pushing against the Cribiform Plate, which separates the nasal cavity from the brain risking puncture which can introduce nasal bacteria into the brain causing meningitis and or abscess of the brain. This has been discussed in the medical literature along with other problems such as bleeding, CSF rhinorrhea, retention of parts of the probe. As bad as VAERS is, reports can be made to them. BUT THERE IS NO CENTRAL AGENCY TAKING REPORTS OF COMPLICATIONS FROM THE NASOPHARYNGEAL "SWABS."

I have a friend who had one of these done only because her daughter in law insisted she have one in order to see her grandchildren. Following the procedure she experienced severe pain and complained that the person taking the "swab" was rough. She then became febrile and developed severe neurological impairment leading to generalized paralysis and, inabilioty to speak. She required intubation and was in ICU for a month. She is now in rehab but still cannot move or speak and the family is not being told that this could be the result of a Cribiform Plate puncture. AND THERE IS NO CENTRAL AGENCY TAKING REPORTS OF ILLNESSES FOLLOWING THESE USELESS TESTS NOR HAS THIS RECEIVED ANY ATTENTION IN THE MEDIA OR IN WEB SITES SUCH AS THIS ONE.

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Mar 28, 2023·edited Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

This is the only time I believe that Meryl Nass was ever wrong.

The world should pay close attention!!!

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Mar 28, 2023Liked by Meryl Nass

She thought nobody would attend. That is what he is referring to…

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Thanks Meryl-- hope there’s a legal conference on combating national sovereignty usurpation by the WHO.

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I hope this is fruitful!

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Excellent news, great report! I'm very glad to hear this positive feedback!

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Any discussion of legally challenging mask mandates for HCWs?

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If there was I missed it

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Thank you for the summary, Dr. Nass - it sounds great! Plus I enjoyed Steve Kirsch's side trips on twitter!

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It was a remarkable, inspiring conference. And you, Meryl, helped to make it that way. Thanks for showing up despite being "wrong" on the front end. :-)

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HI and th anks for the report and also for the video with Catherine Watt, a new most valuable acquaintance. I like her analysis and totally agree. Problem is to get to court with the accusations and t he cases, well formulated by now, and that before the big chaos explodes. The digitalization of currencies is my worst scare now, they have already started here in Sweden to close down bank accounts for dissidents, and this is an enormous new weapon in their hands. Really scary! I was also happy to understand a little bit of the controversy that has upset the Malones and no wonder! Anyway infighting is always to the worse!

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Check out Syeve Kirsch´s company Token. The guy is deep new world order. Just read his site page. Keeping us busy while they install the system.

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Nope, anyone who has Louisa on his team is top shelf!

Actually anyone Louisa lets on her team is top shelf!!!

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Hey, I've been injured in categories 1 and 5. Can I get something like a Purple Heart?

I'm actually quite glad to hear there was interest, maybe a little electrcity in the crowd.

:-)

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