Yeah the “crazed cultists” that painstakingly go through the abject fraud that is virology and their “isolation” papers ...
This is so incredibly weak.
The Lanka paper proves the methodology virologists use in and of itself causes the cytopathic effects claimed to be proof of a virus.
The methodology in any paper claiming isolation or discovery or a virus do not actually isolate, and they do not use proper control experiments (“control” gets less antibiotics and/or more nutrition.
Because what they run through a centrifuge is, by their own hands, ridiculously contaminating with dna of multiple species of animals, antibiotics etc, it proves nothing.
And yeah if people stopped believing of something only “shown “ to exist in silico (based on one computer program because 2/3 failed to come anywhere close to assembling the rna in a way that was consistent with SARS cov 1)
This is is such a low IQ, low respect and disingenuous ad hominem cop out .
Maybe you should worry about who might , inadvertently, be part of the gatekeepers racket cult, Meryl...
Honestly I’m stunned .
This is so insulting to your reader’s intellects it’s appalling.
I have to agree that this feels like a real low brow attack, a tactic that is entirely consistent with the ad hominem media mantra that helps makes the censorship machinery palatable to those who are incapable of engaging with ideas and differing viewpoints. This is entirely how RFK Jr is treated throughout the entire mainstream culture and he's entirely on point about vaccines and that's why no one will ever debate him.
I agree with Kaufman that if we don't "believe" in Covid that it would go away because by Covid he is referring to the absurd psyop we all went through for no actual reason. It was, and is, entirely dependent on the fear propaganda and gullibility of masses of people capable of believing govt & pharma care about your life, let alone your health. Frankly I've never heard he or any others say there certainly are not pathogens that may be viruses, but they point out the rather clear lack of solid scientific proof that what are called viruses in fact are so and are individually creating illness. Their critiques seem pretty solid and they might become more difficult to put aside if we ever get a real renaissance in science wherein ethics make a comeback.
Tom Cowan has been talking about the lack of a viruses for quite some time. I have heard him dissect the science in great detail. He thinks that we produce exosomes which match exactly what are called viruses. They are produced by the body when the immune system cannot eliminate foreign protein as it does with other microbes like bacteria or fungii. What is called a virus is actually the body's natural process to deal with a toxic poison like a foreign protein or chemical. The exosomes are the so-called viruses.
What he has explained but still doesn't sit easily is how we get massively spread illness like people getting sick before the 'vaccine.' Cowan says it is universally spread poison but there is no evidence presented as to how this spread happens so quickly. If it is the water as some say, why wasn't there greater illness at the beginning. Many logistic questions stilll need answerig.
Brian Ardis thinks he discovered one toxin but it is from the 'vaccine.' He talks about snake venom protein in these drugs which produces the symptoms many report. Anti-venom treatment works to heal people. Well, in homeopathy, 2 remedies that work to help people with Covid are snake remedies. One is cobra and the other is krait. Ivermectin is anti-parasitic which is snake/worm like so makes sense that it works to heal/cure people.
And last, even Fauci has said he cannot provide a sample of the alleged virus when requested by other labs in the world for them to do research on it. Is he lying? Good possibility. Is he truth telling quietly so most people never heard him? Also a goo possibility.
I was at the first Dallas WAPF conference. Dr Cowan closed the second half of his presentation with the sentence, “You have to have the COURAGE to see the world as it really is.”
Just so convenient for the criminals if all these patented viruses suddenly don't exist. Next thing to go? No such thing as psychopaths or evil. Yeah crime is just a figment of someone's imagination. Now racism that's different.
Imagine the chutzpah to come on a world famous doctor's site and lecture her. Could these be tests of their propaganda. Put out total nonsense and then measure the affect. Yeah we still got enough to stay in power.
Just the opposite. Exposing virology shows that all "virus" based quackcines, tests, research, etc all based on fraud/delusion, and that we don't need to fear each other when sick. This truth is a massive threat to industry and government. It exposes not only evil but widespread incompetence and delusion as well.
My guess is that the same is true of the Climate Change hoax and my initial proof test is Dr. Mann’s “hockey stick” lie. “Famous” scientists exerting control over others...
A quick tossed out comment on my part, let me clean it up a bit.
Some people get the kind of attention that loudly proclaims this message is a threat! The truth rings the gong. Lies spread prolifically do not resonate the same.
You could have millions of likes and you will never have the status I speak of Christine.
Dr. Nass has it.
Go challenge Breggins and see how long it takes to get banned for 100 years.
Dear Frankly, Yiu mention world famous Doctors. Galo, Fauci, Montagnier, all famous but all wrong! Kerri Mullis was world famous for his discovery of the PCR test. He stated that it would not diagnose any active disease, and yet this is what all these world-famous Doctors used. He also won the Nobel Prize for this work, so I think he knows what he is talking about. A test for a nonexistent thing that was never able to find anything is not science!
Wrong again fatso. Montagnier won the Nobel as well. By your logic, he was right. One of his many astute observations was that Covid 19 virus was a manmade virus.
Well this is where Cowan and the No virus team become ‘movement’ people a nd just condescending.... as if the last 30-50yrs smart everyday folks dont see this... Their alternatives to germ theory and other topics he has spoke on ie. Is there really such thing as nuclear bombs or fission?!? One of his podcasts.... just seem conjecture based alternative cause thats what im looking for ....
I was shocked to hear Cowan dismissing nuclear weapons based on a book (or documentary
I watched that podcast and was shocked that Cowan was espousing the "no nukes" theory based on some guy who wrote a book that claimed that Hiroshima wasn't nuked...so I posted multiple video's of nuclear test explosions...both US and Russian...that could not have been faked...never got a reply....he better stick to viruses and leave physics alone
Yeah he was basing on a book, very speculative but the point i took from it was , they aint releasing toxicology/death reports so what the actual flame was is still a mystery. Why????? No one can be held accountable at this point… but i asked the question ‘ if no nuclear fission/fusion whatever ya wanna call it, then the whole Oppenheimer and every other country, Russia \China technology must be in on the same global lie…. As in they claim the same thing, and are all on the same global page lie?!?? He never gave a response
One factor that plays into why were their many who got Sars-CoV-2 could be linked to what was happening across America during the lockdowns. According to Reinette Senum, Dr. Lee Merritt and others is the erecting of 5-G towers effecting the health of people. Dr. Gary Null and Richard Gale have written exhaustively on this topic and how 5-G affects health and environmental safety. https://garynull.com/?s=5+g
Gary and Richard do amazing work , it was actually on Gary’s daily radio show at noon where i first became aware of Dr’s Nass , Malone , Mccullough, Tenpenny , and countless others who are in the trenches fighting the good fight against the raging tyranny , a tyranny so subversive that the vast majority are still unaware of it's actual existence
Its not just localised toxins that Tom mentions. The truth is that in many caseswe simply can't say that we know one way or another what could be causing the phenomenon that appears as a viral contagion. Pheremones/environmental/Telepathy who knows nothing is off the table. All that matters though is that they cant prove contagion of a viral particle iliciting the same symptoms in the recipient of supposedly contaminated bodily fluid.
Germ theory, as in a specific 'germ' causes specific disease is what they are mainly challenging by exposing how nebulous their methods and conclusions are. It's about control and profits, and if it weren't for maintaining income I think most scientists are humble enough to say we understand so little still and the body and its relation with the environment is far more complex then we can understand. Germ theory and the notion of 'viruses' being something to fear is ridiculous when looked at closely. Our culture is unhealthy, our lifestyles, the poisoning of the environment, the stresses we put ourselves under well beyond natural forces, etc... It's amazing what the body can deal with--- all the bacteria, the invisible elements and so forth, and especially with sanitation and clean drinking water there is no reason we have anything to fear but opportunists who need to think themselves as elite that need to exploit and be in control of everything and everyone. The accumulation of toxicity and our stressful and unhealthy lifestyles due to largely unnecessary pressures are what we have to deal with, not invisible entities that create titillating fears to be exploited by soulless merchants of death.
Not being able to explain the spread is not the same as finding virology a fraud! If anyone who knows the scientific method see how they come up with a virus, it is laughable, on par with alchemy or unicorn ology. One thing that he cannot find does nothing to discredit what he did find, and he found that virology is a fraud!
>>>>>Fauci has said he cannot provide a sample of the alleged virus when requested by other labs in the world .<<<<<
EXACTLY . The Chinese Communist Party REFUSED to share any data about the alleged SARS-CoV2 virus and the made the Wuhan Lab data base INACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE.
"Exosome biogenesis machinery is hijacked by viruses to initiate replication, spread infection, and evade the immune response. Exosomes, however, also participate in protective mechanisms by triggering the innate immune system."
"Multifunctional role of exosomes in viral diseases: From transmission to diagnosis and therapy"
So the discussion was about virus deniers, a title I am happy to ordain. We are a million miles past the idea that pathogens "may" be what they call virus. It is the foundational scam that the medical cartel has bought hook line and sinker. Why does anyone think that converntional mainstreamer promote the Quaxcines???
Right! Does anyone know what happened to the seasonal flu? Or the common cold? They must have been on vacation during covid. We need a milk carton so everyone will be on the lookout for them! One of Doctors stated to me privately that this was nothing but a flu, and he was right, but if you send an elderly person home, and tell them to come back to the hospital when they are really sick, instead of early treatment as doctors have always had the right to do, but were not allowed to do this time and for the first time in memory, then what do you suppose will happen to these older people when they come in so sick, then treat them with Run death is near (Remdesivir) and nothing else, they are going to perish, and they did. Now I commend Dr. Nass for doing the right thing, but now that she has stepped on her lip about viruses, I have to wonder why.
Normal mortality rates in 2020 (other than some localised spikes caused by lockdowns, Midazolam, ventilators etc).
No proof of contagion.
Flu disappeared.
Motorbike accidents etc rebranded as 'covid' deaths.
Covid skeptics and the 'elite' got on with their lives and ignored all 'covid' measures without 'catching' it.
SARS COV2 IS NOT REAL:
Normal mortality rates in 2020 (other than some localised spikes caused by lockdowns, Midazolam, ventilators etc).
No proof of contagion.
Flu disappeared.
Motorbike accidents etc rebranded as 'covid' deaths.
Covid skeptics and the 'elite' got on with their lives and ignored all 'covid' measures without 'catching' it.
If 'SARS COV2' was real we must acknowledge it has all the characteristics of not existing and not causing any noticeable sickness or death - except through fraud and deception by human hand.
Having the characteristics of not existing is the same as not existing... so .... :)
Do you remember the T-shirts a few years back with the big, block message on the chest: EBOLA IS REAL? Everyone needs to go back and look at how the sinister "they" attempted to freak the world out with that psyop of the day. No, no, let's not talk about contaminated water, filthy living conditions, etc..... "It's a deadly virus! New vaccine to the rescue! Sit tight! We're on it!"
indeed it is out of character and the post is inflammatory, and worked a charm
Either the poster was not Nass, or she is without clue. The issue you have introduced about the "flu" going to zero when the Covidiocy took its place should shut put an end to the discussion in a rational world.
In Godless times suckers & fools can be made to believe anything! And if you don't believe, you will be cast out of the Godless Church of Liftism, as Ann Coulters' book of the same name so tells us!
have not heard of that book but know about the author
The best word I have heard is Scientism (blind allegiance to authoritative lies from expert scientists) Midwestern Doctor did a comprehensive analysis recently
Try this! "If a martian landed in America and set out to determine the nation's official state religion, he would have to conclude it is liberalism, while Christianity and Judaism are prohibited by law.
Many Americans are outraged by liberal hostility to traditional religion. But as Ann Coulter reveals in this, her most explosive book yet, to focus solely on the Left's attacks on our Judeo-Christian tradition is to miss a larger point: liberalism is a religion—a godless one.
And it is now entrenched as the state religion of this county.
Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).
Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted. But Coulter neatly reverses the pretense that liberals are rationalists guided by the ideals of free inquiry and the scientific method. She exposes the essential truth about Darwinian evolution that liberals refuse to confront: it is bogus science.
You are right about virus fraud, but I have to say you have a blind spot concerning Kennedy. He stated that he believes in vaccines, but good ones, not containing the chemicals we all know are in them. Problem, his lack of stating that there was no need for any of the vaccines because they were forced on our children long after these diseases were 99% gone and had nothing to do with vaccines at all. This is fact and it is historically correct. The other thing that makes him just another politician is his false ass kissing of Israel, acting as if they were the victims in Palestine. This is the proverbial third rail! Never criticize Israel no matter what atrocities the carry out going back to 1948. Zionism is not traditional Judaism, and if you do not know this then you have a great deal to learn. His apparent ignorance of facts is stunning, and this disqualifies him for the position, but if he does know and I am sure he does, then he is perfectly qualified to be President of a country that has lost its moral compas,
That has been my take, as well, on his contradictory stances. And in a video with Bret Weinstein from two years ago, he mentioned that this century's previous "pandemics" were all faked... although he then quickly states that this didn't apply to "Covid." But he did say it. So in true politician fashion, he speaks from both sides of his mouth. Question is: which side would his political decisions be made from, should he be in charge?
Yes, Kennedy's adament position on Israel is quite frightening. He put the lie to his claim of listening to all sides with a willingness to change his thinking. In one interview recently that I partially heard he was as aggressive to the questioners as some are to him when they want to shut him up or dismiss his positions. Did raise the question as to how much money he takes from the Israel Lobby and is he doing this to avoid the repressive effect of that Lobby's money which has been used to thwart any politician who even suggests caring for the Palestinians. Many on the Left who supported him have backed off including myself. His position on vaccines is really quite conservative but at least he recognizes the harm they have done including to his own children. Calling for meaningful safety studies is at least unique amongst political people so it gives some hope. He clearly supports environmental cleaning and has a very strong history in getting the Hudson River clearned up among other environmental issues. And he does support getting corporate control out the govt oversight agencies like FDA and CDC. That alone is a major differentiator amongst candidates. No one is perfect and we have to decide what combination of issues sets one above the other. The Palestinian issues is a major definitive one for me but who else do we have? Cornall West who is great on this but is not known and many won't support him due to their racism and corporate support.
@ Tanya. Question, Should have we/ USA have concerns for Japanese & German citizens, when fire and A-bombing their cites? Why are we friends now with the once evil Japs & Nazi Germans? Good people are not afraid to kill evil people, [when called for] why have sympathy for mass murdering, Hamas supporting Palestinians? Any more than the hundreds of thousands Jap & German women & children citizens, we smoked?
How many Japanese do you know? Many Japanese hate Americans because of the mass rapes by the US of their kids and women, beginning during the battle of Okinawa. The US is in the top countries in the world along with South Africa. Rapes by the US in Okinawa continue to make the news regularly today. The US sexual jihad against Japanese women and even minors why there is so much opposition to US bases in Okinawa today.
According to George Feifer the majority of the likely thousands of rapes [of Japanese women and children by US military] were committed in the north, where the campaign was easier and the American troops were not as exhausted as in the south. According to Feifer it was mostly troops landed for occupation duty who committed rapes.
Feifer, George (1992), Tennozan: The Battle of Okinawa and the Atomic Bomb, Michigan: Ticknor & Fields, ISBN 9780395599242
Feifer, George (2001), The Battle of Okinawa : the blood and the bomb, Rowman & Littlefield, ISBN 0762762543.
NCIS CASE FILES REVEAL UNDISCLOSED U.S. MILITARY SEX CRIMES IN OKINAWA
Yeah sadly makes me think of the saying “Kill your idols “ (SIC) but they seem to be killing themselves faster than I can again all said I. context obviously - no violence is called for, recommend or desired
We might also mention his Cspan comment that "we" are in the Ukraine for all the right reasons. Still it appears he has single handedly blown an irreparable hole in the Dem Battleship. Kennedy is another virus hunter as John Rapport has so brillantly stated... Continuing to shoot himself in the foot is promoting the Kazarian Mafia most know as Israel not to be confused with the historical Jews.
Not sure what Israel has to do with the discussion here, but I do believe we still will not see a presidential candidate (with even a slim chance) go against the mythos built up around the issue and betray the allegiance to the state of Israel. I do wish his position were more nuanced but not at all surprising this would be his position, and I frankly there is no "right" side to the deep historical mess once Israel became established thanks to western hegemony. He's no dummy-- he is not going to go as far as challenging the entire medical & scientific system wholesale, but if he happened to be in a position to change things he would ignite a major cleanup and shift that would lead to more of the truth going public that could create more of shift. It still seems human beings collectively have a long way to go before being able to swallow these truths and displace the psychopathic criminals.
"...Not sure what Israel has to do with the discussion here, but I do believe we still will not see a presidential candidate (with even a slim chance) go against the mythos built up around the issue and betray the allegiance to the state of Israel...." Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai claims he is the ONLY 2024 Presidential Candidate who does not zuck Zionists cock (sic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrEUfOPxwA (1.5 min)
and a summary video on the origins of Zionism and how it relates to what is happening today with Netanyahu, the stock market, how Judaism was hijacked to provide political cover, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlfQOsDLwUE (20min).
I also saw S Ayyadurai say that. Similar to E Musk telling Disney, to _uck off on National TV. Each person is brilliant. Why have they so choosen these words? Shock appeal? Not candy coating it? Reveals? to garnish attention? Some combo?
The entire medical (not scientific, Scientism is the correct word) establishment alread has unrepairable holes, he would simply be ganging on not leading the charge. There may well be a reason he has not.
they call them Covidiots a term favored by Mr Dowd. It pokes fun and insults at the same time. Insults are at this time appropriate as this is a war, we are at war and terms like Covidiot are an offensive, not much different than giving a masked fool stink eye...
That may be a term he uses about those who now have cultish behavior but hurling insults or attacking people directly is always counter-productive-- it only puts people's defenses up and makes them angry so I totally disagree. It's one thing if someone tries to impose on me then I might get sarcastic and challenge that person but I know they have nothing to go on because their operating out of fear and ignorance. Stoking the fire of the divide and conquer tactics plays right into the hands of those designing such in-fighting.
Don't have a link to hand, but what about that video of RFKJr saying all the pandemics have been faked.. cough, er, um, except Covid of course, that's totally real... !?!?!?
Really what would it cost to add a statement of opposition to vaccine mandates in under his “civil liberties” issues section — or anywhere? He is signaling that health freedom means nothing to him.
How could you know anything about redefined so-called "pandemics" where so-called doctors are forced to lie about deaths, miss inform sheeple on toxic experimental & clot shots! ALL promoted to you buy a 5 Billion in Fraud fines Big Pharmas! who has killed over 40,000,000 in just the last 50 years! according to Dr. Nulls well cited book, Death by Medicine?
Alexander you nailed it. I suggested Meryl discuss this with Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy Newsletter, a man who has studied the history of "viruses" in detail.
Quit with the Victimese Whining, you sound like a true, blue Woke Neoliberal or ShitLib.
If viruses don't exist explain why the CIA & US military are spending certainly 10's of $billions on research on viral pathogens in bioweapons labs, many in 25 different foreign countries, 46 in Ukraine alone. Deadly pathogens are transferred under diplomatic cover. Sure going to a lot of trouble & expense for something that doesn't exist. Sure would be REAL HELPFUL to hire shills to spread disinformation such as "Viruses Don't Exist". Sure wouldn't want the public to scrutinize these illegal, expensive and dangerous Frankenstein Science research.
"...UP-4 project became known, which was implemented with the participation of laboratories in Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa and was designed for the period up to 2020. Its purpose was to study the possibility of the spread of particularly dangerous infections through migrating birds, including highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza [VIRUS], the mortality rate of which reaches 50 percent for humans, as well as Newcastle disease [VIRUS].
Due to the fact that Ukraine has a unique geographical location where transcontinental migration routes intersect, 145 biological species were studied within the framework of this project. At the same time, at least two species of migratory birds were identified, whose routes pass mainly through the territory of Russia. At the same time, information about migration routes passing through the countries of Eastern Europe was summarized.
Of all the methods developed in the United States to destabilize the epidemiological situation, this is one of the most reckless and irresponsible, since it does not allow to control the further development of the situation. This is confirmed by the course of the pandemic of a new coronavirus infection, the occurrence and features of which raise many questions. In addition, the R-781 project is interesting, where bats are considered as carriers of potential biological weapons agents [VIRUSES].
Among the priorities identified are the study of bacterial and viral pathogens that can be transmitted from bats to humans: pathogens of plague, leptospirosis, brucellosis, as well as coronaviruses and filoviruses [VIRUSES].
The project is being implemented with the involvement of not only Ukrainian, but also Georgian biological laboratories controlled by the Pentagon in cooperation with the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and the US Geological Survey.
The analyzed materials on the UP-8 project, aimed at studying the Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever virus and hantaviruses [VIRUSES] in Ukraine, clearly refute the US public statement that only Ukrainian scientists work in the Pentagon biolabs in Ukraine without the intervention of American biologists. One of the documents confirms that all serious high-risk studies are conducted under the direct supervision of specialists from the United States.
In addition, the studied materials contain proposals for the expansion of the US military-biological program in Ukraine. Thus, there was evidence of the continuation of completed biological projects UP-2, UP-9, UP-10, aimed at studying the pathogens of anthrax and African swine fever [VIRUS].
The Pentagon is also interested in insect vectors capable of spreading dangerous infectious diseases. The analysis of the obtained materials confirms the transfer of more than 140 containers with ectoparasites of bats – fleas and ticks from the biolab in Kharkov abroad.
Another example is the German-funded project No. 68727 EN on the study of Congo-Crimean haemorrhagic fever pathogens and hantaviruses [VIRUSES]. As part of this project, one thousand blood serum samples of citizens from different regions of Ukraine belonging exclusively to the Slavic ethnic group were donated to the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine (Hamburg).
It is highly likely that one of the objectives of the US and its allies is to create bioagents capable of selectively targeting different ethnic populations..."
"If viruses don't exist explain why the CIA & US military are spending certainly 10's of $billions on research on viral pathogens in bioweapons labs, many in 25 different foreign countries, 46 in Ukraine alone."
1. Money laundering.
2. They never spent anything (it was you taxes they were spending).
3. They were actually developing toxic vaccines.
4. The 'accidental' leak of all this 'gain of function' research nonsense onto the mainstream media helps to fold covid skeptics back into the viral/ contagion paradigm ..... a paradigm which is worth trillions in vaccine profits and allows for continuous deployment of imaginary 'pandemics' until everyone is living in permanent lockdown (in their 15 minute cities) and the 'elite' have free reign over the rest of the world - all to "keep you safe".
5. Here are some of the 'scandals' which did NOT get leaked onto the mainstream news....... Midazolam murders, ventilator murders, false death certificates, rebranding of the flu, fake injections for the VIPs, fake vax certificates for VIPs, vax exemptions for most government departments and all pharma companies, no significant excess mortality in 2020, every contagion experiment for the last century has failed to demonstrate contagion, virology has been debunked many times and does not qualify as a science etc etc...... funny how the only 'scandal' that made it onto the 'news' is 'gain of function' research which makes the false 'covid' narrative even more scary ...
Another reason is to keep actors on the payroll -- for example, to play first responder dressed in a spacesuit or to play patient keeling over on the street in Wuhan. Its fearmongering job done, Convid spread to the West but no one keeled over -- until the vaccines arrived.
1. Nonsense. They have hundreds of useful ways to launder money, it would be idiotic to do so for something of no value. Hey CIA, I'm here, you can launder money through me, give me a $100M to launder for you,. Yup.
2. The labs exist, are proven to exist and even cause local epidemics to occur. Read the article.
3. Yes, they were developing all kinds of pathogens, including many, in fact mostly viruses. Read the article.
4. No the leak (not accidental) proves they were lying all the time about their natural origin theory they still promote. That's proven. They just love the No-virus escape clause from their criminal actions.
5. And yet they went to incredible efforts to NOT allow the GOF research to get into the MSM news. Even got medical journals to publish bullshit articles promoting their "natural origin theory". The rest of what you stated is just Red Herring fallacies.
Even if virology was a proper science (it is not) the very concept of releasing disease causing particles to infect people randomly is completely at odds with the temperament of those who are being accused of such a thing.
These people are CONTROL FREAKS. There is no way they would create a scenario where people could get sick and die completely randomly.... including them, their friends, all the puppets they have installed into positions of power and influence etc.
But none of this speculation is necessary anyway, because there is no evidence that virology was ever a credible science or that viruses have ever existed (as described) or caused any disease in history.
Virology as a field of study was invented because the germ theory of disease was already failing. Virology labs have ALWAYS been a ruse to prop up a fake model of disease (contagion), in order to keep Big Pharma's drug selling business going. Virology was not born out of the discovery of viruses. Viruses (as defined by virologists) have yet to be discovered.
Every so called pandemic in history has been either caused by industrial toxins, vaccines and drugs, natural disasters (often leading to malnutrition) etc .... or it was completely fabricated such as 2009's 'swine flu' or 2020's 'covid'.
If I invest $20 billion in unicorn farms it does not make unicorns real. And neither does me declaring a 'global unicorn plague' and then making $$$ billions selling unicorn fences and unicorn repellant spray to the world.
Nice fable. Mostly a gish-gallop & red herring fallacy. You saying virology isn't a proper science means zip because you know zip. Why on Earth should anyone believe you when you have zero qualifications in the field?
Whatever.... The fact remains it makes no logical sense to let loose a random assassin onto the entire world's population.
And if such a random assassin were to exist we'd expect the world's elite political and industrial class to stay safe in air tight bunkers and only venture outdoors with their own personal air supply. But the opposite happened in 2020 - they all engaged in parties, international travel, affairs, hook ups, conferences, holidays and paid no attention to masks or social distancing.
"You saying virology isn't a proper science means zip because you know zip."
Virology isn't a proper science because it does not meet the basic requirements of the scientific method. It is not hypothesis driven or falsifiable, it relies on the reification fallacy and the subversion of language.
It has been shown that the methods used by virologists can produce the so called proof of a virus (CPE and genomic assembly) even without the presence of a sample of fluid from a sick patient. In other words, the methods, materials and technologies used by virologists contain all of the ingredients for so called 'viruses'. This is what makes virology a pseudo science, a scam and a criminal fraud.
If virology is a pseudo science and a fraud then it follows that experts in virology cannot be trusted any more than experts in scientology.
So your appeal to authority (despite being a logical fallacy) makes no sense.
"Why on Earth should anyone believe you when you have zero qualifications in the field?"
There is no need to believe me because I am not making any claims that require belief. You can research all of this for yourself. You can read the papers which expose virology as a fraud.
Or, with a few thousands dollars you can conduct your own 'virus isolation' experiments and prove to yourself that 'proof' of a virus can be obtained without even needing to add a sample of supposedly 'infected' material.
In 2020 millions of people used the non-diagnostic PCR process to test fruit, tap water, the pavement, goats, motor oil etc for 'sars cov2' and they got a positive result. This also invalidates the official narrative.
The various 'lab leak' narratives help to repair the official narrative and bring covid skeptics back into a state of unfounded fear and compliance..... ready for the 'next' pandemic and vaccine roll out.
1. It would obviously be a very good investment into demand generation for vaccines. Pharma is an uber-powerful political lobby and sponsor.
2. Why do they stay mostly local, except COVID only AFTER the mainstream media or its handlers decided it was time to play constant fearporn (evidence shows those sequences we around since late 2019 but no spike in bad health outcomes til crazy lockdowns and refusal of normal medical treatments start)
4. No mainstream actor nor media has or will touch "no-virus" with a ten foot pole. This is not some controlled opposition because almost no one except "antivaxxers" are even aware of it or bring it up to discredit. There is NO discussion of virus-denial in mainstream media, at all. It's pretty apparent they don't want people to know that there is even a debate.
5. Of course they don't want the puiblic thinking that their experiments may have contributed to a democide event instead of protecting against one, whether it's based on real or fictitious viruses.
Pharma is peanuts compared to Energy which is small compared to Banking which is all about control of entire nations, way, way beyond your Big Pharma hype. If they have money to blow they will spend as they always do on overthrowing governments, including our own. Makes Pharma look like a lemonade stand in comparison.
Banking makes money through investing and interest. Sectors must be growing for both to yield. Plus, the bankers de facto own pharma. See who their largest shareholders are.
How do you think it's gone so far that the NCVIA act was written into federal law and no lawmaker will touch that issue with a ten foot pole?
Governments, 3 letter agencies and NGO's etc. always do lots of things for no value except for the contractors, politicians, civil servants etc., where have you been all these years?
There are useless computer programmes that don't work properly, white elephant buildings, vaccine funding, pharma research in general etc. etc.
GOF is a load of bollux and COVID 19 is the 'flu rebranded.
So, does that mean if you are bitten by a rabid animal that you will be treating your rabies with antibiotics, or what? Sam Bailey said she believed rabies was caused by a bacterium. And when you do die of rabies after being bitten by a rabid animal because you treated it with antibiotics, will your family be suing Dr. Sam Bailey over her bad advice?
If they had only done an appropriate detox, right?
"Rabies Acquired Through Kidney Transplantation in a Child: A Case Report"
Abstract
"Rabies is usually transmitted to humans through bites of infected animals; however, it can rarely be transmitted through deceased donor organs or tissues when not suspected. Here, we report a case of rabies transmission in a child. The child was a 5-year-old girl who was admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit with encephalitis of unexplained cause 3.5 months after she received a kidney transplant from a deceased donor. The laboratory and imaging studies did not reveal any explanation for her rapidly declining clinical and neurologic condition, which ended with death 4 days after admission. Death of another recipient from the same donor led to an investigation that revealed rabies as the cause. Both corneas were explanted from other recipients to prevent further death. Polymerase chain reaction sequence analysis of the corneas was consistent with a rabies virus from the same donor's state of residence. Rabies transmission, although rare, should be suspected when a donor comes from or has visited endemic countries. Donors with unclear causes of death should be rejected."
"Case Report: Survival from Clinical Rabies in a Young Child from Maharashtra, India, 2022"
Abstract
"A 3.5-year-old male child from Maharashtra, India, presented with features of meningoencephalitis approximately 1 month after sustaining severe bite injuries on the right hand from a stray dog. He had received four doses of post-exposure intradermal rabies vaccination (on days 0, 3, and 7 of the bite and erroneously on day 20, instead of day 28 as recommended in the updated Thai Red Cross regimen) as well as local and systemic injections of equine rabies immune globulin. The child was initially diagnosed with and treated for acute encephalitis syndrome before rabies encephalitis was confirmed by detection of rabies virus neutralizing antibodies in the cerebrospinal fluid. During the emergent period, he also received the antimalarial drug artesunate, recently reported to have antiviral effects against rabies virus. With intensive and supportive care, the child showed substantial clinical improvement over the next few weeks. He has now survived for more than 10 months after disease onset, albeit with severe neurological sequelae including diffuse cerebral and cerebellar atrophy."
Two reasons: one, they don’t only work with (real or imagined) viruses, but also bacteria and distributable toxins like ricin or whatever other chemical weapons; two, making people think they have the capacity to control viruses is an important tool of perception. Remember that in WWII, inflatable tanks were used to mislead aerial observers.
How is it a tool of deception if they don't exist? That would be inflatable tanks when there are no tanks. We know 10's of $millions, if not 100's of $millions were spent on the Covid virus development, and much more on other viruses. Why waste all that money on something that doesn't exist. There are unlimited weapons systems they can pour money into that actually do something, if they want a slush fund. Your argument is ridiculous.
There are hundreds of ways to launder money on things they actually want like Color Revolutions or MKUltra experiments. It would be stupid to throw money away on something completely useless.
Who said anything about throwing away $$? They could be doing anything with the money, just pretending to use it on "gain of function".
Regardless, unless someone can cite valid scientific evidence of the alleged "viruses" that were allegedly "gained" on, and the alleged resulting "GOF" version, there is no basis for claiming that the money was actually spent as claimed. They might have diddled about in labs, they might have even believed they had accomplished "GOF" but that is not the same as actually producing "GOF pathogens".
"The term Gain-of-Function (GoF) describes the gain of new functions by organisms through genetic changes, which can naturally occur or by experimental genetic modifications. Gain-of-Function research on viruses is enhancing transmissibility, virus replication, virulence, host range, immune evasion or drug and vaccine resistance to get insights into the viral mechanisms, to create and analyze animal models, to accelerate drug and vaccine development and to improve pandemic preparedness. A subset is the GoF research of concern (GOFROC) on enhanced potentially pandemic pathogens (ePPPs) that could be harmful for humans. A related issue is the military use of research as dual-use research of concern (DURC). Influenza and coronaviruses are main research targets, because they cause pandemics by airborne infections. Two studies on avian influenza viruses initiated a global debate and a temporary GoF pause in the United States which ended with a new regulatory framework in 2017. In the European Union and China, GoF and DURC are mainly covered by the legislation for laboratory safety and genetically modified organisms. After the coronavirus outbreaks, the GoF research made significant advances, including analyses of modified MERS-like and SARS-like viruses and the creation of synthetic SARS-CoV-2 viruses as a platform to generate mutations. The GoF research on viruses will still play an important role in future, but the need to clarify the differences and overlaps between GoF research, GOFROC and DURC and the need for specialized oversight authorities are still debated."
Cool story but there's no scientific evidence to back it up, including for "MERS" an "SARS-like viruses" to begin with. The GOF studies are bogus just like "virus isolation" studies. Sam Bailey has done at least 2 videos on the topic that might help you, also Mike Stone has written about it.
David Martin evens admits when pressed (i.e. by Alec Zeck) that virology is nonsense, there are no natural or manmade viruses.
There are hundreds of ways to launder money on things they actually want like Color Revolutions or MKUltra experiments. It would be stupid to throw money away on something completely useless.
Look at the TSA nonsense. Billions and billions spent, including Chertoff's body scanners. 90% of security theater is COMPLETELY USELESS and could be replaced by normalcy in border control. Even with all the tech, fake terrorists were shown in tests to be able to get things past airport security.
Yet we "throw" all this money "away" on useless airport militarization... Why? Because of OPTICS. Because of its psychological effects.
You say "useless", as though the value has to be material. The ability to hold the threat of "pandemic viruses" and "communicable bioweapons" over the globe is intangible but clearly quite large and valuable.
It legitimizes and generates huge demand for an imporant sector of the the pharmaceutical industry, one of the biggest lobbies and political sponsors to ever exist. So more like an investment, with taxpayers footing the bill.
Which is the (effective) purpose / inevitable outcome of a big gov't.
As the old addage goes: "A king is only loyal to his creditors."
For Pharma, it's actually a genius business model.
There are relatively few pharmaceutical interventions that actually work. The "eradication of polio" (which was done by a name-change by the CDC) is a big pillar of the narrative that builds up allopathic medicine among the public. A sacred cow of sorts, if you haven't noticed. That's why so many are triggered here on this substack.
Big pharma is peanuts compared to energy which is peanuts compared to Banking which is primarily concerned with controlling entire nations, like Ukraine or Russia. Pharma is a triviality compared to those objectives.
So giving money to Big Pharma for nothing would be stupid. They would give money to the MIC to build expensive weapons they hope to use to overthrow some gov't somewhere like Syria, Iran, Libya, Russia, Yemen, Sudan and so on. You figure they are going to make a complicated charade just to funnel cash to Big Pharma who is already getting more cash then they know what to do with through Fauci, NIH, FDA, WHO etc
Yahbut it only works when people accept that it was a virus of "natural origin" or even No-virus. It don't work if they figure out it was a deliberately bioengineered virus, especially one deliberately & maliciously released around the World. Way to go, giving the CIA a way out. Nice job. Maybe they pay you?
It would be stupid if it was their money but as it is substantially taxpayers' money it is stealing. Billionaires and there cronies get richer, the masses get poorer, it is very simple.
What do you see when you use electron microscope? Swiss cheese? RSV virus is imagination and the Pfizer RNA injection which I don’t like is an exercise in futility?
EM has never been a validated method by using reference material as comparison standards. Also you can't use EM like LM. Anyone can make up any story based on what is seen in TEM graphs or about SEM 3D surface shapes. The thing is it is not logical or scientific.
Yes, viruses and nucleotides are mental constructs only.
So..say it! RNA injections and vaccine injections that our children now get to the tune of at least 75 in their childhood are complete frauds! Therefore, the billions and billions being invested by Gates and the money men into RNA injections have no validity. It is just an affront to humanity for money gathering!
Wow a pharmacist having this little comprehension??? Then again you pushed them, so have a dog in the race. MRNA are genetic alterations not viral mimicers.
Man you've bot in hook line and sinker! I'm surprised you found your way to substack where truth at least has a chance...I imagine you are all in for Ukraine and believe everything that's happened is Russias fault too.
Love that you believe everything the govt tells you while they are royally ripping you off & stealing your lives (& soul) from you thru massive money-laundering & medical hell-care. I wonder how anyone can still believe the lies that our govt routinely tells all of us??
ICYMI Don Rumsfeld informed the US on September 10, 2001 ON CAMERA that over 2.3 trillion was missing from the DoD/ Pentagon budget.
Gee... wonder where ALL that govt money went & how "convenient" that a completely unpredictable"911" event (there were actually ongoing planned military actions/exercises taking place on the same day as 911 related to potential terror attacks - so... how very convenient for our govt's plausible (planned) deniability of actual 911 wrong-doing... cuz it was only a "drill"...) wiped it entirely off the memory bank way back then. And there was much more in the way of disappeared financial "resources" during/after the 911 ff too w/ known puts/shorts on airplane etc stocks & the gigantic WTC insurance fraud losses too... . :/
FYI > Donald Rumsfeld Sept 10 2001: The Pentagon Cannot Account for $2.3 Trillion Dollars Of Taxpayer $$$ - AwakeAndAware
Beginning any statement in this way immediately invalidates the rest.
That you may not understand why this should hold, or that you might refuse to accept it, it will not attest to the prerogative of your opinions or convictions.
"This is is such a low IQ, low respect and disingenuous ad hominem cop out ."
I cannot find the ad hominem that you speak of, nor any other, that is, besides the obvious ad hominem fallacy that you have yourself committed in that statement.
Yes, that opening statement reveals a lack of understanding of the principles of science and why degenerative paradigms like "terrain theory" are rejected and replaced by superior paradigms like virology. I do wonder how much Pharma and tbe 3 letter agencies pay these terrain theorists to try to make us all look like whack jobs like them.
You seem to not understand that the issue of terrain and susceptibility is rejected due to the financial aspect. Viruses lead to multi-billion dollar drugs that can be patented; Terrain leads to personal responsibility for building health naturally that uses nutrition and natural products like herbs and homeopathy that cannot be patented for control and as big profits.
FYI, even when Pasteur who is credited with the germ theory of disease was dying he fessed up that he was totally wrong and Terrain or Individual susceptibility is the cause of illness. As I read his research books./notes were all fraudulent and his daughter, who took these books, would not release them to the public. Am quite sure there was beaucoup $$$$ involved in keeping them suppressed. Perhaps even death threats which the Pharma industry has used to control people.
Tanya, nobody disputes that pathogens are not the only cause of ill health. Genes and environment have a role. Toxins can play a role. Lifestyle factors can play a role. Personal responsibility is, however, all too often used as an excuse to blame victims. I don't think that is something you would approve of. You are no RWNJ. You are more open minded than a lot of commenters on these stacks on quite a few things and coming from a good place. You are an intelligent person. Read some philosophy of science, Kuhn, Popper, Lakatos. There is a reason why terrain theory has been rejected and virology is the dominant paradigm, and it's not so Big Pharma can make more profits. Big Pharma doesn't need pathogens to make profits. One day virology will be replaced when the anomalies about it mount to such an extent that it can no longer "digest" them or if its "core immutables" are invalidated. Then, it will constitute a "degenerative research program." As happened with the transition from Newtonian to Einsteinian physics, it will be replaced by a "progressive" program that can explain everything it does and more, but more simply and concisely, when one emerges. It won't be replaced by terrain theory. Terrain theory is a degenerative research program and a pseudoscience. No baby was thrown out with the bathwater. It belongs in the dustbin of history. Look into it a bit more and you will see this.
We will disagree on this point. My decades of experience in dealing with health always proves the Terrain theory position. Even with toxins we see great individual differences in how people react and the Terrain theory explains it very well. Your comment about blaming sickness on people is a common one as people don't like being told they are responsible for their own health. However, there is a subtle difference. Blaming the victim keeps the victimization ongoing. Giving people insight into what is causative is empowering. It does take an open mindedness to take in and use this difference. Do think on this.
The money/patent aspect is really major and central. The Medical industry was as contrived as the fossil fuel or manufactured fake food industries are. Very frustrating to me is how people have no problem in seeing this and the nefarious money/power centeredness of other industries but cannot see the same with the medical one. But it is no different. And I did some research into this some years back and it was quite clear that Rockefeller money was used to destroy all naturopathic healing protocols and gain control over the medical schools and the doctors they produced. All training is drug based even to the point of denying illness when they have no drug to sell. Think of Lyme disease that was denied with sufferers accsued of mental instability or other demeaning characterizations--yes, until they came up with a drug treatment and then everyone 'had' Lyme. Same with AIDS/HIV even tho the drugs used, as with Lyme only suppressed symptom or even killed so many. Lots of accessible history on this.
And the level of fraud in medical science is very extreme. Even Marcia Angels, MD who was the editor of the N. Eng Jn Med for 20 yrs, on retirement, admitted that at least 50% of the 'science' printed was fraudulent, or meaningless. Most people find it hard to believe that what goes for science is simply marketing for the drug corporations. Covid alone should demonstrate this.
In my experience which includes some practice, building terrain is the road to healing and health. I often tell people they can pay now or pay later when they complainj that organic food or good supplements or holistic practitioners are too expensive. This takes us to the reality that the public has been bought by the idea of 'medical insurance' which is a way to direct people to the medical industry which ensures ongoing customers who are in a co-dependent state with that industry. Much was written about this during covid when questioning how an entire population could be so sucked into the narative we were fed 24/7. We can have a long talk about this piece of the dynamic of belief systems and how they are created and manipulated.
33 years as a clinician here over 45 studying the cause of health
The Rockefeller cartel published the Flexnor Report in 1910 to destroy competing health care models. It ushed in Scientism and all kinds of superficially convincing blather fests like Awake has bought into.
Oddly and out of character Meryl went on offensive ( or some poser that hijacked her sub) promoting virus hui. I seriously doubt it is her as "she" said something stupid to the effect that peeps could gander down a microscope and see for themself. Even the virus literate peeps get that it would take an electron microscope (the one few have ever heard of much less seen) to see the "evidence" that in best case scenario is a strand of DNA, one that is shared by thousands or organism.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. We will disagree on the existence v non-existence of virusess and their role in the causation and prevention or amelioration of ill-health (e.g., evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is BOTH oncogenic and oncolytic). Nonetheless, I agree with much of what you have articulated. I also agree with Jill's comments with regard to victim blaming. Many diseases in the West are caused by lifestyle factors. My position is essentially that of Walter M Chesnut who co-published with the late Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier, who is in effect tge devil to many terrain theorists. Chesnut predicted the long term persistence of SARS-CoV-2 in the heart and described the mechanism of heart failure 10 months ago, long before confirmation of his hypothesis by Japanese scientists.
You're right, "personal responsibility" has a hard time taking control of things like fluoridation of public water supplies, GMO substances & artificial growth hormones into food supplies, laws/regulations making it more difficult for non-rich individuals to access raw milk, & exposure to chemtrails & microwave/cell phone towers. But IMHO there's no doubt that those are all allowed because SOMEONE makes big money off of them, one way or another. And since 90% of the country's wealth is owned by 2% of the population, they're probably the same ppl who benefit from owning the for-profit medical-industrial cartel, which profits from healthy ppl only insofar as it can scare them into getting vaccines which will probably, sooner or later, make them sick.
Re "Personal responsibility is, however, all too often used as an excuse to blame victims."
This is true but it works both ways. Big pharma and more particularly the individuals concerned use 'corporations' to try and avoid personal responsibilities.
Big pharma requires germ theory to promote fear of rapidly mutating viruses ('we're all going to die!') so that it can drive the gullible into its arms. Then it steals their health and wealth.
As to germ/virology theory one knows this is suspect when Wikipedia calls Terrain theory 'Germ theory denialism'.
You are civil in your reply. Though you are also woefully remiss in your reasoning. If you still believe in "virus" and Einstein physics you are decades in arears...
I don't have personal experience of grooming anyone or attempting to do so yulia I'll leave it to groomers like you who speak from experience of carrying out grooming to enlighten me and others on what things that are not grooming "sound like" grooming to groomers like you.
Also, sorry to spoil your fantasies but I've encountered Tanya before and it was obvious from the get go that she's a mature adult so if you were hoping she's a minor you can prey on then you are fresh out of luck.
I am sorry but you are not awake! If you do not know what a fraud virology is then I have some evidence for proof of the fraud as well as the truth of terrain therapy, the fallacy of germ theory. It is still referred to as a theory, because it has never been proven. Theoretic physics is called theoretic for a reason! Now if you will take the time to go to odysee, and look up @spacebusters a farewell to virology, a two-part video that shows scientifically the fraud od virology. If you believe in the scientific method and find that no scientific method is used to find this Unicorn called virus, then it will be made plain to you that no such thing exists. It is as credible as alchemy, flat earth, Unicorn Ology, fairy's, big foot, snow white, name your fantasy. Virology belongs in this mythical land. Get back to me after you see the evidence and then we can debate its merits, Jack. RED PILLED HUMAN
see: The Truth About the Germ Theory. @ Green Med info! " What would you think if a reputable molecular biologist claimed there is no measles virus? German scientist Dr. Stefan Lanka made such a claim and said he would award 100,000 Euros to any scientist who would successfully prove otherwise."!
A lot of good [honest] info at Sayer Ji,s website! Check it out!
Proving that viruses don’t exist is like trying to prove a negative. It would be necessary to show that those conditions otherwise said to be caused by a virus actually arise from something else. That the presence of, or exposure to a virus is not necessary.
A FAREWELL TO VIROLOGY (PT 1): Dr Mark Bailey / Steve Falconer
Part one of a three part series. "A Farewell to Virology" is a 29,000 word essay debunking virus theory and virology, written by Dr Mark Bailey, MBChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc. It has yet to be contested and the purpose of this film is to explain why.
This film version walks the layperson through the paper and scientific evidence in an easy, simple and understandable way, so that they may better understand and be able to easily explain to others the great hoax of the last few centuries and certainly last three years, that fictional particles called "viruses" exist, cause illness and are reasons to lock down and destroy societies and economies and cause lifelong disease and misery through needless and useless vaccination programs. They don't.
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Part TWO of a three part series. "A Farewell to Virology" is a 29,000 word essay debunking virus theory and virology, written by Dr Mark Bailey, MBChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc. It has yet to be contested and the purpose of this film is to explain why.
This film version walks the layperson through the paper and scientific evidence in an easy, simple and understandable way, so that they may better understand and be able to easily explain to others the great hoax of the last few centuries and certainly last three years, that fictional particles called "viruses" exist, cause illness and are reasons to lock down and destroy societies and economies and cause lifelong disease and misery through needless and useless vaccination programs. They don't.
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NOTE > FYI Can't find Part 3 of A FAREWELL TO VIROLOGY by Dr Mark Bailey / Steve Falconer anywhere so guess it hasn't been posted yet. But the other parts are excellent nonetheless.
Perhaps you could watch this series Dr Nass & look forward to your comments.
There is simply no interest in curing any disease "caused by" a virus. A cure that is produced by addressing the viral cause is an essential step to proving the viral cause. Once a cure technique has been demonstrated, we can explore the cause and effect process.
However, nobody is seriously interested in curing most viral diseases. Why not? There are more profits in prevention. Disease preventatives can be sold to anyone before, during, even after the disease. Cures require the disease to be present and the diagnosis to be correct. The market for cures of viral diseases is very limited - more so if there is no actual viral cause. Perhaps the best example of this is polio - which is claimed to be caused by a virus. The problem is that many cases of polio were cured by addressing non-viral causes. What I believe? 1. Viral diseases exist. Therefore viruses exist. 2. Signs and symptoms of viral diseases can be very similar to poisonings - poisoning diseases. Curing a poison disease (that is seen as a viral disease) is forbidden, because it upsets the medical theory. Then it gets more complicated. The SARS-COV-2 virus is claimed to cause signs and symptoms of disease by poisoning us with toxic spike proteins. The virus quickly burns out the fuel, the succeptible cells, but if there are many it generates toxin proteins that overwhelm the patients resources for clearing them. But... If clearing toxic proteins is the cure for COVID, then the poison is the cure cause, not the virus.
What happens when Ivermectin cures COVID? Nothing. Cured is not defined for COVID, and not defined for Ivermectin either. Even when the Nobel Prize was awarded for Ivermectin, the word cure was nowhere to be seen.
has nothing to do with a paradigm, it is fraudulent for the simple minded
Very odd that the good doc appears to not comprehent relative size which is basic science. My strong suspicion is that you also have no clue. She (or some poser) actually said something to the effect of verifying "virus" by looking under microscope.
That statement is so patently ridiculous that a high school student versed in science would see the gross error.
Let's be nice:))) We need Dr. Nass to understand us - not hate us.
Dr. Nass's work is AMAZING on every other level. Her professional sacrifice(s) are massive. She is a warrior for us - no matter what.
I think the situation here is like the one I had personally grasping geoengineering chemtrailing in 2011. It took me THREE YEARS until 2014 - to really own up and look into it. I just couldn't accept that the US government (CIA/Intel community initially and US Military now)... would actually spray us with toxic substances and diseases. I had an immense emotional block on that very concept. I guess at that point, I just couldn't take another revelation. Period.
There are other high profile folks who are relatively new to the entire fight back, who are struggling with various aspects of what is happening to us.
Let's get ourselves back to figuring out how to deal with the criminal cabal that is killing us. We're 20,000,000 dead globally from the C19 injections - and two billion injured. That's enough and most of our politicians are still in dreamland. We have to turn this mess around in 2024 - or we're going down.
This was beautiful! Could not encapsulate this better and my sentiments and experiences, over and over! Subscribed, look forward to your material, thank you!
Por nada:)))))) I thank you back!! You are subscribed to over 45 fellow substacks. I'm drowning a bit with input from 7 substacks and another 21 direct content providers:)))))) Hat tip to you for your bravery and perseverance!!
I posted this, below, on another stack recently. It's part tongue-in-cheek. The real targets, like Chelseabern below, miss the irony. It's not Malone, for the most part anyway, who is the whack job:
Malone has lately been sounding like a total whack job, in my humble lay opinion. He's talking of his rivals being CIA related and about psyops and controlled opposition. This is the sort of thing you might expect from brain damaged participants with an alcohol induced organic psychosis at an AA meeting. However, Malone is antivaxx and research shows that, some exceptions notwithstanding, the antivaxx movement or MFM is full of whack jobs who have a trait of "delusion proneness." Perhaps Malone had this trait (see article at the first link below for a description) then he got mRNA double jabbed. Now, in my humble lay opinion, he comes across like someone who has querulous paranoia or litigious paranoia. Could this be vaccine-induced psychosis? None of us has any proof that Malone didn't take the jabs. Perhaps Malone always had antivaxx or delusion proneness traits and then the vaxx sent him mad. Perhaps due to his delusion proneness, the form the madness has taken is querulous or litigious paranoia. Has Malone sued people for defamation previously, i.e., pre jabs? I've not heard that he has done so. If Malone did not suffer from litigious paranoia before the jabs, why does he appear to suffer from it only now after reportedly taking the jabs?
COVID-19 conspiracy ideation is associated with the delusion proneness trait and resistance to update of beliefs
I have very little understanding of science in the truest word, but being a critical thinker, and seeing with my own eyes the bullshit spread like it was coming out of piece of farm equipment, made me want to listen to more than the govt and Fauci. It's not hard.
not sure what that paper is suggesting, but that is not even the issue. An excellent article on propaganda was published this morning suggesting 50 ways that are commonly used.
The point I was actually trying to make was it was unbecoming of
Dr. Meryl - a backhanded compliment was more what I meant to convey then actually accuse her of being what you quoted if that makes a difference and I am being sincere
I sense your sincerity and I appreciate your endeavor to redress.
I also sensed Dr Nass'es exasperation at what I can only clumsily describe as the muddying of the waters by the "viruses aren't real" arguments, if it isn't indeed really an operation to black-wash the backlash against the mRNA injectables.
(black-wash the backlash.... Hm. I think that'll be what I'll name my next Death Metal recording... )
Thanks for the benefit and getting me to better express myself.
As for it being some sort of tojan horse I don’t see it personally.
It’s not just mRNA jabs at stake with no virus , it’s all.
Can you imagine how pissed the injured or say multi decade flux vax recipients would be to find out the pathogen they thought they were protecting themselves, loved ones etc from ... was a product of the most expensive and extensive and long lived fraud and make believe campaign in human history
The level of pissed with vaccine injured children’s parents find out there was no reward and all risk ?
Maybe I’m wrong but while a harder initial sell, this level of fraud might hopefully slap everyone awake and out of the “oh just get over it vaxholm syndrome so many are in .
If it's any help at all, I have almost completely rejected all vaccination and the justification for it. I say almost because one shouldn't hold any particular view with dogmatic certainty, especially when one hasn't investigated the matter exhaustively, but the fact remains that vaccination is promoted as the solution for what seem to be engineered and trumped-up problems. I'm not in any way sufficiently, nor even minimally informed enough to pass judgement, but there is ample evidence of better health outcomes for people who have not ever received any vaccines. And besides, I simply cannot look past the fact that for almost the entire 3-4 million years of human existence (if taken from the Australopithecene ancestor), we seem to have done pretty well even without the intrusion of petrochemical pharmaceutical medicine and its ham-fisted attempts to artificially modulate immunity, and so I'm more than a little inclined to believe we don't need it - and would, more than likely, be better off without it.
And I guess we’re all different but this is distilled water to me .
If viruses are a hoax then pandemics, the treaty, all countermeasures etc all go away it’s the area of the hydra that if exposed can finally kill the damned beast for good
Viruses are real! DBPC science studies are real! But trying to correlate all that to DBPC science free snake oil sales pitch, from our 5 billion in "FRAUD" fines/ Big Pharmas, whos iatrogenic "medicine" has killed 40,000,000 in just the last 50 years, is a lesion in Godless psychosis!
When are you NO-VIRUS GRIFTERS going to grow a pair and volunteer to go to an Ebola infected African region? Prove your beliefs and treat & supply care to Ebola victims, but unlike any of the other staff, no gloves, no moon suit. Should be easy, it is largely a virus that transmits through bodily fluids, so it should be no problem. Just think what a heroic deed. You'll impress the hell out of all those medical personal. Show them how to do it.
All these Africans who run for their lives when they see an Ebola infected person wandering the streets. All for Nada. Just show them the truth. "There is no virus folks, relax, don't worry. I'll grab this Ebola infected person, give her a kiss & a hug, tell her she's fine, she just needs supplements, fresh water, fresh air. Cured." That will save $billions in unnecessary expenditure on Ebola/Marburg class epidemics.
Maybe a simpler solution is for Meryl, Malone, Kirsch and the others who keep claiming that viruses are real, actually SIT DOWN with Kaufman, Cowan and Baileys for an indepth discussion on the subject. Do it on camera. Stop avoiding direct discussions. The no virus people are begging them and they are refusing. So who needs to go to Africa?
The fact that they refuse to do so and even go so far as to ban me from commenting on his substack because I asked the question there and in an email directly to Kirsch, then you might have an argument.
But you don't. Licking the doorknob is not proving viruses exist, unless you are a mental lightweight.
Thanks for this! I have to say that the Baileys have discussed it with Dell Big tree as well as McCullagh, and they both were so evasive. Big tree deflected by saying that it would confuse the work they are doing, and McCullagh stated that he has a photo of a virus but has not seen fit this show this Unicorn to this day. None of the health freedom fighters has made any statement about the virus fraud. I was listening to the covid summit in Florida, and they were condemning the jabs. They said how dangerous this vaccine was, and then the statement that shattered their credibility was made and should not have been because I would never have questioned them. One of them stated that all the other vaccines were perfectly safe and effective with only one in a million adverse effects. I couldn't believe what I had just heard. It was a blatant lie. This is when I started to look closer and then found Dr. Bailey, then everything changed. Jack
It is so obvious that these people are hiding and setting up strawmen arguments to avoid what you and I see as viable debate subjects. This, to me, means that they know they are full of it ... or ... they are too ignorant to care ... or ... they are so far brainwashed that they cannot see that their avoidance at debate totally undermines their entire argument.
Look how easy it is for Meryl to throw out the strawman while simultaneously avoiding the direct communication with them.
Is she lying? What is she and the others afraid of? Are they afraid to take these people to task for their "idiocy" or are they afraid that they know they can't win the argument?
They are safeguarding the superstructure of virology. These front people have been used to deflect from the big lie and the big money involved in virology. This is what the power structure does, they give us seemingly brave heroes to do battle with the evil ones, and we drink the kolaid every time. Just think what a great strategy this is! They inundate us with things and facts that no one will be accountable for, as is usually the case, but then virology stays in place, get it? I was fooled again until the light came on in a false statement made by one of them at the Florida covid summit. He stated that this vaccine was deadly, and then followed up by saying a blatant lie. He said all the other vaccines were safe and effective, with only one in a million adverse effects! WTF this is when I started to look deeper into the front and found the Baileys, real truthtellers, and now I whomp the asses of the defenders of the Unicorn. Thanks for this post, Jack!
I wanted to let everybody know about the website, LewRockwell.com, an article by Jim Quinn, Corruption, Chaos, conflict- fourth turning erupts! If you are not familiar with this site, please look at this article. It will shock you but not surprise you, Jack.
It is tiring to hear people deny that there are images of viruses (or exosomes, or whatever they are or you wish to call them). Just do a quick search online (not ever using Google, if you are a decent human being). Just type words like "virus image electron microscope" and see what comes up. Maybe you will actually see the "unicorn" that supposedly does not exist. It takes just seconds to do that.
People defending the concept & so-called printed pix of a virus or viruses seem unwilling to admit that anyone can claim a photo is an image of ANYTHING, Are they just unaware of scientific FRAUD, CGI images, photo substitutions or DEEP FAKES?? Gullible much?? Yeah, sure, this is a photo of your great-great-gran-ma. For reals. hahahaha But can you prove that is really my granma thru authentication now? Because just saying something is something is not definitive proof.
Koch developed rules to follow by which one can determine if a pathogen is responsible for a disease. The reader should be aware these were published in 1884; Koch updated them to relax the first postulate when he discovered asymptomatic transmission. Also, Koch’s postulates fail to apply to typhoid fever, diphtheria, leprosy, relapsing fever, and Asiatic cholera specifically because it is difficult to create ‘the disease anew’ in animals upon infection (Ref).
Koch’s postulates were addressed head-on for the SARS virus in 2003. See
Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus.
As originally written, Koch’s four criteria were:
(1) The microorganism must be found in diseased but not healthy individuals;
We know that asymptomatic COVID-19 infection can occur. Koch himself had to modify his postulates after he discovered asymptomatic infections could occur.
(2) The microorganism must be cultured from the diseased individual;
SARS-CoV-2 has, in fact, been cultured. It’s a matter of routine:.."
I requested a debate with Christine’s team, but Christine wrote she was too busy to reply at the time. Now she wrote to me that she won’t debate me.
Richard Fleming requested a debate with them as well and they wouldn’t debate him either.
I asked Christine, “OK, so if it isn’t a virus, explain to me what my wife caught from her golfing friend who had COVID, and what I caught from my wife. If it wasn’t the COVID virus, then what the heck was it? The COVID tests were positive for all of us after we got symptoms.” Every email, Christine avoided answering my question. So I had to ask several times! Finally, she wrote the following: “Steve, I sent you the challenge and now you insist on diverting the conversation to your wife and asking what covid is and what people (who I have zero direct knowledge of) allegedly caught. We all know what covid is claimed to be and what people think they "caught".” So she was being evasive and her answer to my simple question is evasive once again! This is important. They cannot answer this simple question. It is their Achilles heel. They like to claim that the virus doesn’t exist, but they cannot explain what COVID is if it isn’t a virus, nor do they have a set of tests to PROVE that THEIR theory of what it actually is is correct. Watch this video at 1:47:19. Why aren’t THEY spending the money to prove THEIR theory? Gotta wonder about that one. The point is this: If they cannot PROVE their alternative hypothesis then why should the demand proof of the current hypothesis? I’ve emailed Tom Cowan directly and he said he didn’t know what I had. I got “it” from my wife for sure.
It’s not cheap to do the tests they are requesting and they won’t pay the costs. They claim they have some pledges available of $500K, but pledges are not the same as cash on hand (I’m an expert on that one). They basically insist that rich people like me should spend our money to prove their hypothesis.
If they have an alternate hypothesis on what is causing people to all come down with a respiratory infection that is so severe they have to go to a hospital, I’m all ears. But they have none. I suspect their purpose is to distract us from the main vaccine narrative. If they want to fund the research they want, we are happy to do it.
This is not my field of expertise at all. I rely on other people around me who I trust. These people are all red-pilled with respect to the vaccine. It is possible that they are blue pilled with respect to the virus, but generally red-pilled people are red-pilled in many areas. None of them found the hypothesis compelling.
There is a video of Purnima Wagh (full video, highlights) who says she had $1.5M to do the isolation work and they found nothing. They said in the video that the CDC wouldn’t send them a sample. This is very interesting. But you can buy SARS-CoV-2 samples commercially from a number of commercial suppliers including ATCC. Sin Lee bought his reference from Boca Biolistics Reference Laboratory, Pompano Beach, FL. The samples cost under $2K. Why didn’t they do that? My colleagues (such as Sabine Hazan’s lab) have bought these samples and they matched the gene sequences from their infected patients. If the virus doesn’t exist, how do they explain that? And how can you explain Sin Lee’s papers (see below)? If the virus doesn’t exist, then how do you explain his results? We’d be DELIGHTED to debate Purnima Wagh. I’ve emailed her (at cchmc.org) and have not heard back.
Their challenge to prove there is a virus was accepted by Dr. Kevin W. McCairn, who created a web page accepting the challenge and asking them to put up the money to pay for the tests they wanted. Now, for some odd reason, they do not accept the offer that they asked for.
When McCairn pointed out that the challenge was accepted and the originators then didn’t reply, Christine ostensibly threatened McCairn with legal action. You really can’t make this stuff up. Here’s the actual email exchange with McCairn’s acceptance and also a debate offer from Dr. Fleming.
Now of course, they will then tell their followers that McCairn, Fleming, and I are all bad people and they don’t want to waste their time with us..."
You are a thug. But you are quite helpful. Many people, including me, have come to realize the fraud of virology after noting the abusiveness of its defenders, drawing the tentative conclusion that the abuse is a substitute for argument, and finding that conclusion confirmed upon reading the original virology papers. So, keep it up.
I must say "You are a thug. But you are quite helpful." is a wonderful line. I said something in not unsimilar vein to 'frankly' in the comments who seems to be more thuggish than anything.
I think that I recognize that username (frankly), and not in a good way. It is amazing how thuggish the defenders are. Their responses are mostly, "Shut up, ignorant peasant! And eat our dogma now!"
There are some longer-winded viroliegy bulldogs, like Jeremy (sp?) Hammond (who has his own website), who make a pretense of argument. But discussions with him in his articles' comment section quickly devolve into his saying, "As a show of good faith, first agree that I'm right. Then we can discuss how right I am." When you refuse the offer, he bans you.
Waynebegood is Kirsch's Admin. He wrote that Ron Unz once wrote something antisemitic, so I must also be antisemtic. He then banned me and deleted my comments.
Unz is jewish.
WaynebeGood and Kirsch are covering up the lie. NOT an honest, open debate at all. Simply lying and covering it up.
Nice total Ad Hominem smear job special. Something the CIA does always. Makes you look more like a CIA sockpuppet with every comment.
Ron Unz has been very emphatic that there is a bioengineered Covid bioweapon that was deliberately released in Iran to kill and injure their senior leadership as well as in other areas. Woops.
You are full of malarkey. Steve Kirsch's admin definitely banned my comments exactly the way I said. I have screen shots and all the email notifications that prove it.
I understand that you don't like when your heroes are pointed out to be less than stellar and truthful.
Maybe you should question them on those issues instead of kneejerk reacting with your emotions.
Man are you off the base of reality! First of all, Africa has been the testing ground for every medical poison ever to come to market. They did not nor do not need vaccines, it is clean water and healthy food that cures, but no one spends money on the real problem, because they are in it for the money and not to cure the problem. You mention growing a pair! Souds like my old drill instructor, are you in the military now? They taught me to not think at all, do not question. This is who you sound like to me. You obviously have not done any research on the subject you claim to know so much about. The thing that cured Americans of the illnesses that were plaguing us for so long, was exactly what the African people need but do not get. They are used as Guina pigs for big pharma. The only thing they get is jabbed, but no clean water or healthy food. If the billions spent on drugs were instead out into wells and food, it would make the same difference it did here, or did you not know this fact? As far as virology being a fraud, it is, and the proof is there for the seeing, and if you did any real research, you would know these facts now. Just slinging shit does not a proof make! A farewell to virology, two-part video will convince you, and if not then well??????????????????
Nice evasion. If what you said is true, you should have zero difficulty getting some of your enthusiasts to do exactly what I said, videotape everything and prove that Ebola is all BS. Medical students, doctors & nurses, altruistic individuals volunteer all the time to risk their lives treating poor Africans during Ebola epidemics. You can't find ANY altruistic individuals in your community? Prove your faith. I dare you.
Like you and many others who have taken the time to comment, I am surprised and disappointed by this post by Meryl. Yet, like all of us, we're all waking up to "the truth" and the more we embody it, the more we will see. Some stories or beliefs are harder to let go of than others and this is where the real work begins.
Because she is rational and has integrity and scientific rigor and is not a terrainTARD you are going to unsubscribe? It's not her fault that your feelings are not facts and that facts don't care about your feelings.
Scientific rigor. I thought so until this ridiculous, literally, piece. I would love to see her debate Dr Tom Cowan, Dr Andrew Kaufmann, Drs Marc and Sam Bailley.. but she wont
I will--once they tell me what causes warts, shingles, herpes etc. I am waiting. So far none of the 423 comments have made a stab at answering this simple question.
Sam Bailey has separate videos on all these specific topics on her website. Engage with them and dispute what she and Mark say if you wish, but don't be so flip and ignorant. It is unworthy of you.
I responded to this below. Dr. Cowan said he treated herpes with collagen and vitamin C and it never returned. Much of the shingles today is the fallout from the varicella (chicken pox) vaccine and Dr. Gary Goldman did trials for the CDC at Antelope Valley before the varicella vaccine was released and was widespread proving that the shingles epidemic was going to follow the introduction of the varicella vaccine. The CDC suppressed his trials till the vaccine was entrenched.
"I will--once they tell me what causes warts, shingles, herpes etc. I am waiting. So far none of the 423 comments have made a stab at answering this simple question."
Do you understand that the burden of proof (logic) is not on anyone who does not make a positive claim about them, but it is on those who make positive claims about them?
So far no one has proven existence of any alleged biological virus.
No one has identified them.
No one has observed all vital occurring processes with them in real time.
No one has experimented on them in a form of independent variables.
But if you want to speculate about what is a cause of specific symptoms, we can do it. However a speculation is not a logical proof.
Very true. I remain 100% open minded and admit I know little if either “side.” I’m reading literally every comment for some explanation, but so far no one has answered this simple question. Instead, it’s a lot of name calling and “go read Bailey.” Where’s any semblance of a rational explanation.
Great point, these are my questions as they certainly seem communicable!
My son lived with measles post MMRV for over a year, still inflamed lung alveoli and elevated eosinophil and basophil levels 3 years on, a simple cough extends for months on end 😞. He had every skin malady known to man during that time. Thankfully, myself and my two daughters were able to avoid all that his weakened immune state acquired. Trying to avoid any and everything his body expressed, hand and foot, pink eye, itchy body breakouts, all types or rare and difficult to pronounce fungal rashes, and thankfully there were no shared infections. I did not isolate or avoid my at the time 5 year old son as was medically advised, that’s crazy, give me a triple dose of cancer for another hug, gtfo! Which led my readings into the work of the Bailey’s, Proton Magic, Cowan and Kauffman.
I understand the NYS DOH infection control studies and Massey’s FOIs as cited, and certainly feel there was nothing novel about CoV save for extra special gentoxicity of the fauxsine ingredients, but where I’m stuck with their assertion is something like chicken pox, which got nearly every one of my 8 siblings as a youth, the youngest ones with a later round. If it was bacterial, wouldn’t that be much easier to isolate? Something was shared through the house the adults had developed prior immunity to, and the older kids with the latter round.
Certainly the threat of boogeymen viruses is exploited to no end for financial and totalitarian gains, but what could be shared between children in the case of herpes simplex if not an infectious agent or something biotic?
Cowan suggests that "measles" & the other routine diseases of childhood may be more like maturation processes, the seeming contagion being some kind of resonance--read THE CONTAGION MYTH, in which these are discussed directly over several pages which would be awkward to copy-and-paste here, & besides the rest of the book is all supporting, indirect discussion of the same.
It’s also been found that having natural measles protects a child from heart disease and some forms of cancer later in life. It’s thought that measles, chicken pox and other childhood diseases are detoxing from a developmental stage going into the next stage, e.g. going from having ten teeth to 32 teeth.
What is at work here is not so much the argument virus vs no virus. See how riled up we are all getting? One could make a defensible argument, should one want to; but the response is rather to get upset about the opposite argument - and to rail against those holding the other position. That’s why this is a distraction. The tone being inspired, even here, is similar to the vitriol unleashed on those questioning the vaccine. I still hold it’s not so much whether viruses exist or not; it’s that their role is different than we thought. And is not the trend against which we ought all be united, division and hatred? Is not our shared mission the rebirth of compassion and selflessness, of open debate and pursuit of the truth?
There is no distraction. This is a war with usurpers-parasites. Virology is one of their tools they use to control the masses. That is why it should be destroyed as there is no proof of any biological virus.
There are NO identified viruses & this has been proven definitively.
If you don't know this, or see this as critically important, or care about this, then you are simply part of the control problem used against us.
Viruses are NOT a distraction, nor is the argument for or against a distraction, but the USE of viruses to fear-monger all of us & to shut down the world whenever fake pandemics are rolled out is the main crux of our medical freedom problem as viruses & so-called pandemics are a "convenient" excuse for the PTB to rig a scam-demic & tell us we must be jabbed w/deadly toxins whenever they decree.
The proof that viruses do not exist & so aren't contagious disease-carriers transmitting dangerous pathogens is key to our survival, John. Otherwise we are all just pincushions for their latest toxic jabs/drugs.
Hi Meryl, please tell me when team no virus answer the simple question and tell you the cause (or more likely causes) of cell proliferation on various body parts, inflammation, rashes on the trunk, headaches and generally feeling unwell in highly complex emotional beings with many interacting homeostatic systems; what kind of evidence you will accept as proof? How will it compare to the evidence you have accepted as proof that entities termed viruses, invisible to the naked eye (and yes i have looked down electron microscopes, if you think it's easy to interpret what you see- you're mad) are the cause of these symptoms?
Sit down on video with them to debate this. They go into detail about the subject. What are you afraid of? I mean, you are brave enough to write this screed. Going on video with them should be a piece of cake for you. And, Sam is easy on the eyes.
It seems that this topic of the "existence" of microorganisms, which cause disease, strikes at some differences in cognition, which are probably fundamental in nature, reflecting different archetypal ways in which humans "understand reality".
I try to explain that all of our concepts are somewhat wrong and somewhat simpler than "reality", but that the better ones are very useful in navigating the difficulties of mortal existence. The "Germ Theory of Disease" is such an archetypal concept; very useful in reducing deaths from surgery and childbirth, and treating strep throat.
The Virology sub-section of this germ theory of disease worked very well in treating people with COVID by use of repurposed antiviral combinations including zinc and vitamin-D, and either HCQ + azithromycin or ivermectin + doxycycline. My patients almost all felt better the next morning, as did I when I caught delta-COVID 2 years ago.
Those viruses are specific to the body experiencing the problem. Take measles. Children are sent to school en mass, and experience separation anxiety, which affect the nerve endings. This has been proved in German New Medicine. The Hebrews in Israel use it, but they dropped the word 'German' for obvious political reasons.
Nurses must be versed in it.
The gist is the soul experiences a problem that it can't solve. The body reacts after the solution is presented. The healing phase results in the physical manifestation of the issue, and that is what we call a virus. They can't spread from person to person, only hysteria and fear can.
Could it be that it's a way through which the human body expresses itself by coming in contact with a chemical like a pesticide or anything else of that nature?
Excerpt > "Dr. Gary Goldman initially called attention to these findings during the inaugural meeting of Physicians for Informed Consent (PIC) back in 2017. He described how the country's chickenpox vaccination program altered the epidemiology of shingles, alongside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) manipulation of data to conceal the unwanted outcomes that occurred."
"Goldman explained that before the universal chickenpox or varicella vaccine was introduced in the U.S. in 1996, 95 percent of adults had experienced natural chickenpox when they were children and developed lifelong immunity. Subsequent exposures to natural chickenpox prevented or postponed shingles."
"Adults started developing painful, blistery rashes when the vaccination drives started. Exposure to the varicella-zoster virus (VZV) resulted in a rash, which is commonly considered chickenpox. To battle the increase in shingles cases, the Zostavax injection was rolled out."
"We had 300 surveillance units – daycare centers, schools, physicians, clinics, hospitals – reporting to us … this community of 300,000 would report cases of chickenpox to us. So really, we were going to produce perhaps some of the best data ever collected in history of this disease of varicella," Goldman said at the time. (Related: Vaccinating against chickenpox often causes shingles, even in children.)"
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FYI My own mother suffered enormously from shingles the last decade of her life due to the recommended adult "shingles" vaxx. Before that she was fine as her normal childhood chickenpox outbreak had given her good immunity & she had never had shingles since she hadn't taken a childhood chickenpox vaccine. Neither did I or my siblings or my friends ever have shingles either as we all had chickenpox. normally & NOT the synthetic & dangerous childhood chickenpox vaxx.
After taking the adult shingles vaxx, she had terrible, very painful shingles outbreaks over the last decade of her life which her own doctor told her required another annual shingles shot. Talk about incompetence/stupidity. I convinced her not to ever have a shingles shot again for logical reasons. Twice bitten, twice shy. Fool me once, then. save me from hell-care, right??
Friends, in this video I will tell you about an incredible historical event. Thanks to microbiologist Stefan Lankа, we now have a final, official refutation of virology.
Stefan Lanka performed control experiments that completely refuted the methods that virologists use to prove the existence of viruses.
I will bring you to the fore, give you the necessary context, and explain the results of these experiments so that you can realize their full significance.
Please share this video so that as many people as possible can learn about it.
Video author: Ekaterina Sugak, naturopath and researcher.
Links to the articles mentioned⬇️
1. Propagation in Tissue Cultures of Cytopathogenic Agents from Patients with Measles - 1954.
I, personally, will start to take an interest in that when the W.H.O. tries to lock down the 99% of the planet because it feels (w/ zero proof) that pandemics are caused by the earth being flat.
Ahh, you referenced that paper, and its conclusions
This was published by Virus denier John Rappoport who has a cryptic sense of humor likely from being in the virus hui exposure biz for decades: (the later group has more mental acuity)
The two teams are the Virus Hunters, led by the CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service, Tony Fauci, and various doctors and politicians, including Rand Paul and a somewhat reluctant Bob Kennedy…
Versus the Virus Probers, headed up by Andrew Kaufman, Tom Cowan, Christine Massey, Sam and Mark Bailey, Kevin Corbett, Eric Francis Coppolino…
Thanks! It's one of my pet peeves and credit should go to Meryl for posting this. Her job is MUCH tougher since I have no skin in this game other than enjoying exposing the nonsense for what it is. And "they" make it so easy, so it's really not that tough for me at all lol!
Why are you all afraid for Meryl, Malone and Kirsch (or whomever) to sit down on camera with Kauffman, Cowan and the Baileys?
Apparently they are afraid to do so and would rather write these hit pieces, while avoiding the elephant that is BEGGING them to have the conversation on camera for all to see. I guarantee that Meryl cannot answer their questions or show how their theory is wrong. But they can do so to her with impunity, which is why they won't dare ever do it.
I DARE THEM!
I dare the master bettor substack banner Steve Kirsch to do it and he banned me.
I can't speak for others but I'm not afraid at all. I doubt they are too. Give Steve an incentive. Offer him good odds. Put up some money. It talks and bullshit walks. Bring it on!
What, are you pushing the dogme from the 5 Billion in fruad fines/ & leader in cause of death/Big Pharma's? Could you elucidate your ramblings more lucidly?
welcome back. I'm going to do the Nass story on my show this week. It's just amazing they are calming any relationship to "science" whatsoever. Her bs does not even rise to the level of ad hom. This is pure emotional appeal.
Her boss 🐎🐴 frequently does do ad hominem though , then writes sensitive pieces on cyberstalking and gangstalking when independent reporters get too over the target 🤣😱
Gotta marvel at the kind of minds that can rep Turtles All The Way Down and still advocate for “safe and effective vaccines” as they ever existed or were ever effective.
And that’s honestly such a huge tell. Repping turtles as its hip and in , the logical end point of investing if any of them work and if not why - simplest answer with abundant proof is because they couldn’t because they never had any alleged defeated , live or any other viruses 🦠 to create antigens with .
That’s too far health freedom thought leaders get big mad and drop the CIA word spells ! CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! CULTISTS! ANTISOCIAL! CHAOS AGENT!
Glad to see the top rated comment is monstering your post Meryl. I don’t pretend to understand “science” (or even want to) but I think I have a good 🐎💩 detector & when you look in to virology it stinks to high heaven
The "no viruses exist" idea is the opposite of the "all viruses are deadly" idea - the first lifts us up off the ground, while the second drags us into the mud. Wanting to believe there's no such thing as a virus is as counterproductive as wanting to believe a corona virus is like a death-fog rolling down the valleys. It's a distraction. What might be new as an understanding is not so much that germs don't exist, but that the way illness works may not be quite what we have been told. Does the immune system really mirror the globalists' picture of life where one group fights off another, where one must dominate, or does the immune system behave like our sense of self; discerning self from non-self, and partnering with illness in a far more subtle way? Do we emerge strengthened from illness, as we previously thought, or are we really helpless victims of random pathogens which only a savior vaccine can rescue us from?
Exactly Geraldine, when will anyone prove they have, “Isolated and Purified” Covid? Without that, they have nothing but an ill intent on murdering massive amounts of people! Which is exactly what has happened. Tit for tat is as useful as trying to understand a newborn! That’s exactly what all this seems to be now. Unless the rich and famous, the ones that give a damn, decide to pour their resources into bringing those responsible to justice, we are all just pissing in the wind! I will say, a great vent though. But nothing will ever be solved. Unless I missed the breaking news I have only heard the opposite. Whatever has been injected into the bodies of millions worldwide is reversed, death and disability will continue! I know and most people know, the world was “conned” and in essence murdered by the
“bio-pharmo-nutto’s”! Germs / viruses have always plagued humanity, humanity has always put there God given defensive front line, front and center to keep them in check. My concern is the constant division against the wrong team! The world should be uniting to tear the truth out of these S.O.B’s WHO, decided it was time to rid the world of all the useless feeders! There wouldn’t be much of a world, now would there be, if it weren’t for the useless feeders, inventing and building and tending to the fields of life helping the “kabillionares” well become, “kabillionares”! How fickle and how sad, half the population haven’t a clue, the other half is tearing themselves apart and what’s left? Exactly, humans destroying humans! The world needs more unity, a simple fact but an unlikely chance that will ever happen. May God Bless America and The Entire World!
What you say is true, but ultimately the virus lie has to be accepted because the psychopaths who want to exterminate us useless eaters keep using the lie as the base of their fear porn.
AJR. The Uniting. It won’t happen, sadly, until God intervenes and saves humanity from itself. As He has promised. I say this because you asked God to bless us. We are nearing that point. We SHOULD be uniting to fight this evil cabal. The vitriol I sense here now and in other places seems to be increasing as the danger increases. Virus, or not, that’s the least of the dangers facing us and even Meryl must get off that branch of a tree that should be making us stronger and taller. It’s dead. The FACT that humanity and even nations, are contributing to the sacrifice of their own children --the future of mankind--should be the one thing that unites us. I used to believe the bomb would be the agent of our own destruction but now I see clearer. Of course it would be more “personal”. The evil forces would prefer that. A pernicious easy injection that would cause agony, twisted futures, pain, bankruptcy, grief, depression, death, lives ruined, failed nations. Families torn apart. All around a repeated visit to the “doctors” from even the day of birth. And lining up in drugstores to get a jab that just seems like a kinder, gentler boxcar to oblivion. I am praying for discernment but the question of viruses seems like a tiny puff in the hurricane approaching us. Stay strong, AJR. We will need each other one way or another.
May I suggest a slight modification to your already very good statement with: " ... only a very few are relevant to disease; the rest have existences that have little to nothing at all to do with disease"?
No reason why it can't be both. Deconstructionism is happening in every field, in every area - social, religion, medical, healthcare..... when it happens across so many areas, you have to take a step back and question why, why now, and to what end. There's a reason it's happening all at once. I think we have to be very discerning and just stand back and observe for a while. Looking back in history, deconstructing makes for chaotic times and the ending isn't always so nice.
No it is not the opposite, Both are true. No one has isolated a virus. The story is akin to suggesting that DNA fragments in a pot of soup demonstrate proof, that is patently absurd.
Yes, I dispute this as EM is not validated method with reference material , does not allow direct real time observations of all vital occurring processes.
Antibiotics are toxic substances and killing bacteria has never been proven to save any life.
Yes I remember reading an article a few years ago (published in 2018) on viruses. The heading was "10 Viruses That Actually Help Humankind", I believe that humans have lived with and adapted over a hundred thousands years and that this does not detract from terrain theory.
Wow. Just wow. Let me get this straight. Here you are with a huge platform given to you by RFK Jr, and CHD, on a massive regular basis, attacking, out of the blue, the people who have no platform whatsoever, but who do have one thing in hand: the basic ability to reason and to read scientific papers. Then you call them names, accuse them of being part of a psy-op and of being mean and that thus people shouldn’t listen to them. All for doing what, exactly? All for pointing out that the science behind virology has massive logical flaws in its reasoning, and that it’s own experiments dissprove it’s conclusions. So, in the other words, here you are with a significant media platform, parrotting the government science, legitimating the orthodoxy of established nonsense upon which the whole absurd field of vaccination is based, while claiming to be some sort of protector of the people? You’re joking right? You couldn’t possibly have written this, correct? Please tell me some sort of government zombie-bot hijacked your account and offered up this illogical and mean-spirited dribble.
You then go on to apply what has got to be the most inane reasoning I have ever witnessed as support for your belief in viruses. Why on earth if you have a flu, or herpes, does it have to be caused by a virus. Because you said so? That is literally your line of reasoning. If I say that the rain is really just giant invisible unicorns peeing from the sky, and I see it rain, does that prove these unicorns exist? Obviously not. But that is the level of reasoning you assert in your piece above. I am just…flabbergasted.
Enough already. Why do so many establishment doctors keep ignoring the very real problems with “virology” and instead attack those who point out these problems? And why is it always the same line of attack: “people who point out problems with virology are mean. Don’t listen to them. Obviously viruses exist because we get sick.” If that is the level of rhetoric coming from “doctors” who claim to be against the covid narrative, we are effing doomed people. Please, oh please, if you want to “criticize” the criticism of virology, as part of some reactionary orthodox defense system, please at the very least, READ the actual criticism of virology first. At least understand what the problems with virology are, before you jump to its defense. Why do I beg that of you? Because I have some tiny amount of faith that if you actually bothered to understand the “science” on this issue, you would see in a flash that this entire field is baloney. Let me give you a simple way to start: watch the documentary The Viral Delusion. www.theviraldelusion.com If you are not emotionally capable of at least engaging with the actual and very real problems that virology has as a so-called “science” then let that be a sign to you that perhaps you are not ready for this level of intellectua discussion, and you should simply choose, out of basic common sense, not to comment on the matter, and to refrain from using terms like “virus” which you do not actually understand. These kinds of attacks are like belches of ignorance, stinking up a moment that is pregnant with the possibility of transcending this idiotic hole of a paradigm rockelfeller-government “science” has plunged us into, upon which the lockdown of the entire planet was justified, and from which some of us are at least trying to climb out without having to bother with these blows of aggressive arrogant ignorance dressing itself up as compassion.
"People who have...the basic ability to reason and to read scientific papers"- translation: "people whose ability to reason has been coopted by a psyop and fed pseudo-scientific papers to swallow and then regurgitate ad nauseum". Too bad you got sucked in. Better luck with the next one.
Omg. Are you a bot? Is this really your attack? You believe that scientific criticism is ipso facto a psy-op? How do you make that determination? Do you even understand the foundational problems with virology? Do you fully understand what those problems are? Or are you writing this just because the idea that disease isn't caused by viruses "sounds silly and mean" I have had it with ignorant bullies pushing people around on this issue. It's a disgrace. Either explain to me why the foundational criticisms of virology are, in reality not sound criticisms, or go home. Please don't attempt to bully and insult people if you don't know what you are talking about. It's embarrasing, maybe not for you, but for all of humanity.
"Nola" is a helpful thug. He/she/it just spews invective of the "Shut up, ignorant peasant!" form, like many or even most of the virus pushers in the comments (and in the article). Unbiased observers will note the contrast with the mostly polite comments by the other side and may rightly conclude that the invective covers for lack of substance. So, in another thread, I've encouraged him/her/it to keep up the good work of helping people see the virology pseudoscience for what it is.
Hi Sanjoy - Nola continues to prove that you're observation is right with just about every comment! I wonder what intelligence agency or PR firm is behind "Nola?"
You go home- you're drunk. The "foundational problems with virology" are the same as with all others. You either accept the findings of the VAST majority of scientists or you stubbornly refuse to out of sheer narcissistic arrogance. I don't have to "explain" ANYTHING to you or anyone else who is only here to passive-aggressively attack the OP and anyone else who actually does have a clear understanding of the complexities of scientific pursuit. When that virus bites you in your arrogant ass you'll sing another tune. If you survive. Go find a rabid dog to pet. See what happens and come back and tell us, m'kay?
What findings? Unscientific methods? And if enough "scientists" make these, thats your proof?? Are you insane? Show us ONE study proving the existence of a virus. But you wont, you can't.
I confess that I don't get it either. its one thing to posit that one's 'terrain' is a determinate of one's health (completely logical and factual; more scientific evidence for that all the time. the metabolic changes that occur from chronic stress alone shows that you're more than the sum of environmental exposures). but the insistence that viral pathogens don't exist and ONLY the state of your body creates illnesses is, well, bordering on cult-like. and getting more cult-like every day. personally, I just ignore it.
don't let the cause of bodily sovereignty & health freedom be damaged and diluted by such irrelevancies. carry on, Dr Nass. don't get distracted by it. they are allowed to 'believe' whatever they want. just like we are. changes nothing.
The page you linked to includes a majority of publications that are over a century old. None of them established the nonexistence of viruses, but only the fact that some animals and people are resistant to viral illness. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23737050/
Ok... great... Now that you've focused on what you wanted to focused on as an attempt to distract from the truth please also address the latest studies the latest which is 2022... I'll wait.
How far back do I need to go to explain this to you? You CANNOT have an infectious pathogenic agent or particle without having these particle transmit NATURALLY from a sick person to a healthy person. If you have this proof feel free to send it on.
Now you’re just blithering. Which is how you make your living, no doubt. If you’re a human at all.
There are very real concerns about the virus, the source and effects of the virus, and the effects of the actions taken by governments in reaction to the virus. Your absurd claims are diverting attention from the serious topic and discrediting our own opposition to lethal and cruel measures.
Totally agree with you. And after reading the “no virus” sniping in comments I am always left with the question- so what’s your point? Why pick this fight with hard working healers? Call it what you want to call it - virus or toxin but people are getting sicker and need help so stop fighting and start healing.
@kordelas Have you used 1/1000th of the efforts here against antibiotics? I bet you haven't. Why not incorporate the efforts in your New Year resolution to shout to the world that the "so-called antibiotics" stinks?
Nass could simply get Malone, Kirsch and her favorite virus believers to debate openly on camera with Cowan, Kauffman and the Baileys and let the thing occur. Maybe Meryl could prove the isolation she claims happens? For us all to see?
But they won't do it and I suspect that like Kirsch banned me for even asking about it, Meryl might ban me, as well, because that is easier to do than actually get on camera with them and debate this in the open instead of this poor hit piece.
I did debate cowan and Kaufman about 3 years ago for CHD and it was a clown show. Just like the commenters here, they refused to grapple with facts presented by myself and Dr. Sin Hang Lee, sticking to their talking points like glue, interrupting repeatedly, and in essence acting like children. Yes I did. So now they can explain warts and shingles and herpes and then I will engage, not before. Because they already showed me they have no answers to simple facts like those.
You and Lee did not present logical evidence that proves existence of any alleged biological virus.
"Burden of Proof
Informal
This fallacy originates from the Latin phrase "onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat"). The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions) the claim. The fallacy of the Burden of Proof occurs when someone who is making a claim, puts the burden of proof on another party to disprove what they are claiming."
As you can see, no one has to provide you any explanation if you are unable to substantiate your claim. This is logic.
I see: this debate is the main source of your ire. Cowan and Kaufman can be rigid and abrasive, no doubt. They ruffle feathers without regret. But the Baileys, Mike Stone, Eric Coppolino, and many others, are patient, reasonable, polite, and informative. Their position on virology is Copernican; that they offend cherished beliefs is to be expected, wouldn't you say? But as Wittgenstein says, what they destroy are mere houses of cards.
I, as a Family Physician, have always sought forms of understanding of processes which would help me better reduce the suffering which my patients were experiencing from disease. The empirical usefulness of Virology as a model of human disease, which suggests interventions, which can be tested for efficacy is high. I would readily embrace another model that offered better efficacy from the interventions which it would suggest.
Like "A Midwestern Doctor" I perceive Germ-Theory and Terrain-Theory as being complimentary approaches to treating, mitigating and helping-prevent human disease states.
(I almost never need to take medicines at 65. I am a vegetable gardener, avoiding food additives. I had my appendix out when I was 4 years old. It was infected. The surgery likely saved my life.)
I like your reply. But the issue is the truthfulness, not the usefulness of virology. I do not assert establishing truth is ever easy, but it is worth doing, no? The suffering caused by toxic treatments to treat questionable pathogens should be on the table too.
agreed, my 70 yo friend who received the covid shot was rushed to the OR 4 days after to have her appendix removed(prior she never had an issue), so it is fair to assume a toxic insult
"The proof of the pudding is in the eating", as the saying goes.
These medical models are useful in application. Deaths from childbirth and surgery dropped dramatically and right away from instituting handwashing techniques.
Thanks for all you do Dr. Nass. It is so surprising to have people get so vicious over a topic. If you don't have broad shoulders for all these attacks, wearing padded shoulder pads may help. LOL.
Thank you for all the work you have done around the world to bring awareness of the WHO treaty and its details. I hope January finds you home and resting from all your travels. Happy New Year.
As to “...warts and shingles and herpes...”, a more pertinent question might be why, when exposed to the ‘virus’ entities you suggest are the ‘cause’, some individuals exhibit the ‘symptoms’ consistent with the virus and some do not (controlling for variables such as previous exposure / vaccine etc). In other words is there something about an individual which predisposes them to exhibiting those characteristic symptoms.
Nineteenth century medicine was a lot more open, competitive, and honest than
My impression of those who question virology is that they question the alleged causative link between a "thing" found in someone with that someone's subsequent illness -- not that the "thing" does not exist.
I'd have to think about it, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard Dr. Sam Bailey or Dr. Tom Cowan ever say that these "things" don't exist; maybe they have..? I think their stance is questioning whether a direct link exists -- and that is a valid question.
The "no virus" crowd is the controlled opposition. They are used to make everyone who thinks the covid vaccine in particular is harmful into nutjobs through association. "If you think the vaccine is harmful, you must be one of those no virus nutjobs". With this they attempt to destroy your credibility among the sheeple. Amazingly, it works often enough to keep being used. But just like over using starter fluid in a car, eventually the damage caused will defeat any usefulness it ever had.
It is like being called a racist for not supporting Gaza. It isn't meant to change your mind, but to turn people against you, meanwhile, actual racists are destroying black families and persecuting Jews. It is maddening but you have to remember, eventually the wheels fall off the tactic and it happens suddenly.
One day people will believe the controlled opposition represents the entire other side and the next they will realize they have been duped and they actually fall in the middle of the spectrum of beliefs. Will it come in time? Will it make a difference? Hard to say, but there has already been blood shed over it and I fear there will be a whole lot more before the New Year is out.
How are they controlled opposition, unlike anyone derisively dismissing them, they have citations, go through the seminal papers in painstaking detail and well done videos making it easy for anyone to assess it and see what they think of it.
Controlled opposition corrals you into a mental pen with no real answers beyond what puppet masters want as the other end of the Overton window.
Globalists and Medical Freedom Fighters agree : unproven viruses are real citation: cuz lol ur dumb breh 😔🙄
Anyone who’s getting emotional and ad hominem clearly hasn’t bothered to look for themselves.
These people have a lifetime of believing the lie and have made money from that lie. How will they ever give up a lifetime of believing that lie? It's virtually impossible.
Which is too bad. For the truth is that if these things do not exist, then we know that someone is using some other method (poisons, etc) to kill and sicken people). We would obviously know that the covid shot is bogus (along with any medication or treatment for viruses).
What Meryl, Malone and others don't realize is that we have had a lifetime of seeing these lies play out over and over again. Just because they profit from those lies makes it near impossible for them to ever change.
ANOTHER reason why we all need an unconditional UBI that's high enough to live on: so professionals can AFFORD to be honest, no matter how badly the gov't & its Boards of Licensure screw up the economy for everyone else.
Seems to me that they have made enough lucre already. I think the financial issue is hardly healed by UBI. That doesn't attack the root of the problem.
Coming from someone who has probably never read a single paper on the subject. Do yourself a favor and try not speak on topics you know nothing about. It will save you the trouble of looking like a fool.
No Joe you have it exactly wrong and clearly are uneducated but fully entitled to your false beliefs. Your analogies are pathetic and off topic. Logic 101 calling Mr. Dirt
I have heard from vaccine proponents over and over again that "If you think the vaccine is harmful, you must be one of those no virus nutjobs." Whether paid by Pharma or not, terrainTARDS work for Pharma. Their job is to hold the antivaxx movement up to mockery and derision. Some people say terrain "theory" is to virology as Newtonian physics is to relativity theory but that's not right. Newtonian physics is an inferior paradigm to relativity theory because it's a "degenerative research program" but it is at least still scientific. Terrain "theory" is more than a degenerative research program. It's just plain pseudoscience. It's proponents are delusional crazies.
That is delusional uneducated low IQ nonsense. You are talking through your ass and think your delusional opinions and feelings are facts. A hypothesis is an assumption or prediction made before any experiment or other form of scientificresearch is done. It is formed so that it can be tested to see if it might be true. A theory is a principle formed usually to explain the things already shown in data.
X-ray crystallography is not even a valid method as there is no reference material for it. And it does not allow to observe all vital occurring processes in real time. Also it is not an experimentation on independent variable.
It seems that you have no clue what you are talking about.
Blah blah blah, im no virus after years of study, i am a father and husband, i work 40hrs a week to try to make a better future for my kids. I can assure you I am no idiot or controlled opposition. I would suggest that you have not done enough of your own research on the subject and maybe you need to open your mind a little to accept other possibilities to explain what I'll admit appears as contagion.
I have a few friends who are red pilled enough to know that something bad is up in 2023 with the vaccines, with the world really. But these friends say that viruses either don't exist, or probably don't exist, or may not exist. When I ask what then causes us to get sick together in the same household, and the conversation starts to break down. Then I have asked what is rabies? In the wild, the snowshoe hare goes through fairly predictable cycles of population growth followed by a sharp decline occurring in fairly similar and predictable periods of time as do the predators who eat the hares. If not a virus, then what? If it were bacteria as the cause, someone surely would have ID'ed it in a slide under a scope by now..
I listen to an interview where Andrew Kaufman, when asked where his proof was that viruses don't exist, and he said, its was not up to him to provide the proof. Reminded me a bit like saying gravity doesn't exist because one can't see it.
I have an issue with the no virus theory also. How do you explain a family member getting sick then you get it. Someone sick working on your computer.. then you get what they had. When you are tired , exposed to a lot of toxins etc, your terrain is weaker and then you can get sick from a virus.. a cold sore, shingles etc.
And Covid is not the same as the flu. I had it once, never had anything like it. Got it from my husband.. who had been traveling. Many young people got really sick. Not to say that hospital protocols didn’t cause a lot of the deaths and refusal of early treatment caused more. It could for sure be an aerosolized man made pathogen. But it’s something.
There is no such thing as no virus theory. But there is a challenge to a claim about existence of biological viruses. So far no one has proven any bio virus.
And a lack of knowledge what caused of something is not a proof of viruses.
What causes rabies has never been identified. Pasteur was a chemist, not a research scientist who tortured dogs and was a functionary of Napoleon III, who made up diseases to keep the British from using the Suez Canal. His diaries, which were never to see daylight, were given to a French research institution and then in 1993 given to Princeton University, where they were translated. Pasteur admitted his fraud. The side effects of the rabies ‘vaccine’ can be similar to the claimed disease. The vaccine also causes spinal lesions in senior dogs so they can not manage their hindquarters, and destroys their heart valve connections, among other things.
It’s a scam to injure, kill and make money like other vaccines.
A flip-side question to yours re "get sick together in the same household" is this: What explains the person or persons who remain well in that household? If virus = direct cause of symptomatic illness, what keeps some people well while surrounded by those unwell/sick? Even if these healthy people "test" "positive" for "the virus?"
I rode both NYC and Boston subways for years up close and personal with hackers, sneezers, nose-blowers, coughers. Not for five minutes, but, for example, the 40 minutes from Cambridge to Downtown Crossing. Nothing -- oh, and no flu shot. Ever.
I think I believe 😊 that "viruses" exist. What I remained unconvinced about is their alleged direct involvement -- in any way -- with ensuing symptomatic illness.
If he has said that I believe it's in the context that he and others challenge that it's the virologists themselves that have the burden of proof upon them because the methods they use have never done that. If you haven't digested their critique and taken in the so-called 'isolation of viruses' that is typically done then you might be more open to their criticisms.
I do believe the "can't prove a negative" was it. Still at the time I was willing to at least hear that side out, so it would have been nice of him to offer some alternative explanations as possibilities. He did not.
The point I am really wanting to make is that the wheels of humanity have fallen off, and we are arguing over who last tightened the lug nuts.. Who cares! The general population is broken, perhaps permanently. There are those who are responsible for this who are loving the fact that we are diminishing ourselves with all this infighting. If you want to believe there are no viruses, I am fine with that. I just wish and hope that we could just put that aside and get behind those who are taking this fight up the chain to the very top. The rest of it, the virus/no virus argument is just meaningless blather in relation to the real problems. Best left to those armchair phd's who want to show how clever they are. IT IS NOT HELPING!
Anyone who uses logic can see that we live in system that is based on degenerative principles. The system which is created and run by usurpers-parasites.
Beliefs are not my cognitive standards. And viruses are still not proven. A virology scam is one of tools of usurpers-par. That is why it is important to destroy it.
There are other scams as well and they should be destroyed as well.
And who's creating the infighting? This is not a "virus/no virus argument" as you mention here. It's actually a scaremongering "viruses are dangerous and can kill you so you should (or MUST) take our elixirs/prove there are viruses that actually cause what you claim" debate. The back and forth in this post (which does include some childish attacks coming from only one side from what I've seen) is occurring because of Dr. Nass' crude attack on what is misperceived (giving her the benefit of the doubt) as a simplistic 'virus/no virus' dichotomy. It's a shocking attack considering this is the type of tactic the institutional frauds backed by the billions of pharma and media resort to and perpetuate in order to avoid real science and debate.
"Does she plan to dine off her 100 FOIAs forever?" you ask.
LOL, I received max $5000 this year in substack donations from ppl grateful that I help expose the fraud/delusion of virology.
"Covid" already has gone away for those of us who realize "the virus" was never shown to exist and all the "confirmed cases" were based on fraudulent, meaningless tests. Interesting how you insist on keeping it alive in people's minds.
Pretty wild that you would compare an alleged sub-microscopic particle that is said to have been sequenced, characterized, studied scientifically and killed millions... to the sun - something we can all see with our bare eyes and experience day in, day out.
Re your final comments about colds, flu etc: Wow, you still conflate effects (illness) with presumed particles ("viruses"), causation and transmission.
And pretend that "pathogens" are the only possible cause of those illnesses??
Unreal.
And now you try to reverse the burden of proof as well - lol!
Not that it even merits a response, but... I've never claimed to have a 1-size-fits-all particle that explains every cold or flu etc. That is part of the delusion of the germ hypothesis, not my way of thinking. Bizarre.
It's actually FOI responses from 220 institutions in 40 countries, and easily 250 FOIs in total on "SARS-COV-2" alone.
This detail would have been super-easy for any careful researcher/reporter to fact-check, Meryl.
And the FOIs don't stop with the imaginary "SARS-COV-2". We have many on other alleged "viruses" as well - no records there either.
FOIs reveal that health/science institutions have no record of any “virus” having been found in a host and isolated/purified. Because virology isn’t a science:
Freedom of Information Responses reveal that health/science institutions around the world (220 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
(includes FOIs and emails from investigative journalist Torsten Engelbrecht directly to "SARS-COV-2" researchers):
To what extent do you accept biology and what are we made up of. Genes, proteins, DNA, cells, biological and chemical processes etc. exist and take place or not?
My focus is on alleged "viruses" (prompted by the scamdemic) and to some extent whether or not any bacteria have been shown to cause illness (no scientific evidence found so far). So I haven't delved into these other areas but am aware there are controversies.
Yes, I always react with "maturity" when confronted with supercilious egos. And you can run along now and do your own homework now like a good little virtue signaler.
I've been doing my homework on this issue for the last 3.5+ years, as vaguely noted by Meryl. I've yet to find a valid study showing any "virus", and FOIs from 220 institutions in 40 countries show that no one even has a valid independent variable to study with controlled experiments, or to sequence or characterize.
And the onus is on those making the positive claims, so I challenge you to cite a study.
It's really no use, Christine. Nass, Corbett, Broze etc are all neck deep into the gatekeeper squad paid by the government to discredit us. They had their chance to prove otherwise but at this point it's just ad hominem after ad hominem - they have nothing
It’s apparent you require some education on the true nature of dis-ease and what really makes people ill (teaser: it isn’t a ‘virus’)...until people get educated on this, they will continually be victimized by the pseudo-science of mainstream medicine, whether they support allopathic remedies or not. I invite you to watch this presentation Alfa Vedic did last week which is extremely in-depth on this covering the 6 factors that cause dis-ease. (Skip to about 10min mark to get to start of presentation) https://www.youtube.com/live/E3QWXv4KMCU?si=OT-RHv4wAzF1aCYD
Try reading some some of the source documentation instead of hopping on a bandwagon getting mad at people you’ve never bothered to hear out because you don’t like their claims
I read all of their BULLSHIT and watched endless videos of Kaufman, Cowan, and Bailey spouting pseudo-science garbage mostly attributed to the discredited work of Antoine Bechamp. I guess because they use "big words" people like you are very impressed.
No as to the big words and I suppose we saw wildly different material from each.
That being said , pseudoscience is not characterized by insisting on the use of the actual scientific method. That’s where it becomes unclear how you think they engage in pseudoscience
Exactly how is it clear to you that those freaks ARE using the scientific method? You seem to be hypnotized by their doublespeak, which is certainly NOT "scientific", only scientific-sounding. Do you really believe there is some mysterious "particle" in our blood that can convert into bacteria and back? I've questioned Kaufman DIRECTLY in video conferences and he's always refused to explain his "science". Do you really also believe small pox, measles, rabies, etc CANNOT be conferred from an infected person to another? Do you understand how UNETHICAL it would be to purposely infect someone with a pathogen just to satisfy YOUR demand for proving Koch's 4th "postulate"? Do you have ANY idea that viruses were NOT known to Koch and that his "postulates" were ONLY applicable to LIVING organisms like bacteria? Do you even know what a virus is?
Are we spreading rubella with the MMR vaccine? Is rubella a virus? It says here they isolated and sequenced the virus. How do they know it was a vaccine strain of the virus? Science, maybe?
"Vaccine-associated Rubella - a report of two cases and a review of the literature"
Abstract
"We report the clinical characteristics of two adult patients, presenting with a typical erythematous rash consistent with rubella disease after MMR vaccination. Both patients had an uncomplicated clinical course and recovered uneventfully. One patient was confirmed to have vaccine-associated rubella via sequencing of virus isolated in viral culture. The other patient had a pharyngeal swab positive for rubella virus PCR, with sequencing matching the vaccine strain. There are few reports of clinical disease from rubella vaccine-strains in the literature. Previous authors have reported severe disseminated vaccine-associated rubella in both immunodeficient and immunocompetent patients. Further study is required to ascertain the incidence, risk factors, and clinical characteristics of this condition; as well as investigate the extent of horizontal transmission to guide infection control recommendations."
Ong SWX, Vasoo S, Sadarangani SP, et al. Vaccine-associated Rubella - a report of two cases and a review of the literature. Hum Vaccin Immunother. 2021;17(1):224-227.
This is amazing. I should not have to say this, but just to clarify, the fact that the scientific, medical and public health sectors were profoundly cowed, silent or complicit in what was largely the COVID fraud, should not indict the prior work of virologists and physicians.
The nature, and the almost certainly unnatural history, of the Sars-CoV-2 is a matter or considerable interest. Multiple working hypotheses are warranted, even as the story solidifies. Much of the worldwide, social event termed the "COVID Pandemic" was an exaggerated theater produced with non-biological means of social control, banking and the broadcast Medium. This is not to be confused with the virus, a virus of unknown composition, provenance and contradictory evidences regarding actual virulence and epidemiological details.
There are, in fact, plenty of electron-micrographic studies of the great variety of viruses that interact with the world of bacteria, protozoa, fungi, plants and animals. The geometric patterns of the capsids of some viruses are beautiful things of wonder.
From the very beginning, combined immunohistological labeling-electronmicroscopic studies should have been combined with epidemiological studies -- especially in small, indicator towns -- along with properly executed sampling strategies across the nation should have been a given.
That these kinds of studies were not done in order to properly identify, distinguish and undertand the putative "COVID virus" only invited the rational hypothesis (among contrary ones as well) that obfuscation may have actually been the goal. Goal or not, obfuscation was achieved by unintelligent hysteria by public health and political officials..
Viruses exist. Sars-CoV-2, such as it is, probably exists/-ed at least in places, in some form, possibly introduced-not-spread. A fraudulent show was constructed around this to create, by exaggeration and misattribution, the apparent justification for remodeling the world economy and banking system---possibly for a vary ugly agenda. (Where did the influenza of 2020-21 go?)
Every physician and biologist knows about the possibility and the likelihood of compromised immune and metabolic systems. This is not evidence for a "terrain theory."
On your beautiful painted EM nonsense which is after the fact that transmission over the past 2 centuries has failed in every single experiment, extracellular vesicles are indistinguishable from so called "viruses". So please explain to us that how you know what you are seeing on the EMs are viruses (ref:
epidemiological studies are equivalent to reading someone's tea leaves to get more information about why they are sick. This is a good joke though. I had a proper laugh at this quackery.
The foundational lie that needs to be substantiated is that your fairy dust can be transmitted. If you cannot prove this every downstream argument you have is irrelevant - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/hacking-at-the-root-of-the-virus. I've sent you the 2 centuries worth of failed transmission studies. Please do send me a study once you come across one because I have been looking and there is none.
The 2019-2020 flu was also disappeared, presumably by the "covid" phenomenon. This was clearly demonstrated in the Johns Hopkins study of the CDC's reporting:
Great comment. I agree completely re the obvious crime that was/is the Covid® operation.
I'm sure many studies using electron microscopy exist showing the great variety of substances that interact with one another. Can you point me to studies that show conclusively that a single one of those substances, a virus, causes symptomatic illness? And that in its absence, illness does not exist?
Thank you for your question. Please permit me to inch my way through this with the thoroughness that I believe you and I will both be satisfied with in the end, or at least further along. That is, we will do this like proper scholars. Thus, I beg for your patience as we tease our way towards what will hopefully be a better understanding of things. Either one of us -- or perhaps both -- may find ourselves surprised. I will return my own perspective to that of agnosticism regarding viral infections and, indeed, as some would invite me to do, even to the very existence of virions as well. As in any proper enquiry, we will have to make sure for ourselves, and for our interlocutors, that we are nailing down important definitions and concepts as soon as they arise and hopefully even as we anticipate there arising in the near future.
My first QUESTION is to ask (this is a question for you and me both), whether there exists evidence for infectious transmission of any disease, by any agent, be it bacterial, protozoal, fungal, viral and some other unusual biological entities?
There is no reason to hurry with your (or my) response. We all have many other tasks to attend to, we should both understand that.
Should you choose to engage, this should be a delight, in addition to likely advancing a common understanding.
Thank you for honestly identifying your perspective. That was commendable in a small way. It is not fully adequate for a well-reasoned system of thought, in my opinion. Some of us has a responsibility for educating others, protecting public health, treating diseases and developing equipment, pharmaceuticals and therapies. Despite us all having been let down by many who gained inordinate -- even illegitimate -- control of these organizations, these are important institutional functions of society.
I must respectfully, now, say goodbye. We cannot -- at present -- communicate. You and I do not share a frame of reference, or even one that is bridgeable. We need not think of ourselves as enemies., but I must let you attempt to freely try to act in, or perhaps even build, an alternative world using your tools of thought. Maybe you, and not I, will succeed. All the best!
I can see that your realized that eristic, sophistry and other mental gymnastics do not work on me.
Many tried, but all failed.
I participate in discussions and debates with virologists and their supporters (including academia professors) since the beginning of 2020. And I have never lost in any exchange with them.
Here is something that will help you to understand differences between real science and scientism.
Dear SheThinksLiberty, Weihan Xing, David Shohl, Meryl Nass, Geeky Gesturton, Kalle Pihlajasaari, Kristin Chevrier, and Duane HayesConsider, I am going to transfer this thread to my Substack page, American Siberia, because I do not know how to easily and reliably add comments to a unified discussion without losing you all. I really like Dr. Nass' initiation of this topic. (I will, of course, make sure I provide a link back here to Dr. Nass' article.) Perhaps we can really make headway on this. If you would like to continue our mutual probing into this topic. I am enjoying approaching this by ejecting my prejudiced notions and seeing if I can convince myself once again of the existence of viruses and the reality of inter-organismal, and sometimes inter-specific, transmission of viral diseases.
We have plenty to be critical of regarding the events of 2020-2023. My guess is that viruses will prove to be -- well, actually, "not alive" -- but none-the-less very well at the end. But who knows, maybe we'll decide otherwise after a fair and objective examination.
People who say that should experience chronic pain for a year and then try their method of thinking the pain away. Good grief i did try that, but the pain kept interrupting my wishful thinking.
So true. How many times I wished I could “share” for a while just so people could get the true gist. Mayo Clinic does a program for 50,000$. No insurance. Epic program in wishing away the pain. Geez. 😵💫
I’ve been stuck in worker’s comp hell for 26 years and when they kept denying treatment, drugs or therapy I wished for them to get stuck in hell too just so they could understand what chronic pain does to people. I’ve been dealing with neuropathy for 8 years and I don’t even wish this pain on anyone no matter how bad they are.
Maybe there are some conditions that cognitive therapy helps, but definitely not on pain. And those poor people who paid for the Mayo treatment…it should be pay for each treatment not the whole amount upfront. I hope people will sue…or ask for studies that show it works. But I know desperate people will try anything. I’m just happy that I have a dog to live for because there are days…
Bless your heart, I FULLY understand your thinking there. Having someone other than ourselves is so important. Chronic pain is awful and lonely isn’t it. Others cannot understand because even if they have pain for a short time it ends and is dimmed in memory. Every moment for every day for years upon years is sooooooo incredibly hard! Praying for you and others like us. ❤️
"Terrain theory" - stuff in the environment and exosomes and unhealthy bodies and bad nutrition are making people sick and spreading disease from one person to another.
That probably didnt explain it well because im not a convert.
I thought there were plenty of scanning electron microscope pictures of viruses. And they cannot be bred in isolation because they need a host to infect which of course "contaminates" the purity.
There’s lots of artistic renditions of things alleged to be viruses to be sure but as no virus has ever been scientifically isolated it’s just an artists rendition...
What do you imagine the labs have been working on these past 100 yrs? Please - go to your local university virology lab and ask for a tour - it will be very informative and you can ask a lot of questions. If you are near a research lab with an SEM all the better.
LMFAO! If a virus requires a living cell to replicate and stay "alive" how does it spread to infect others? This is not a well thought out lie man. Perhaps try something that makes sense...
On the topic of transmission, which is the foundational lie of virology, you'd find that the profession has zero proof. Two centuries of studies has all come to nothing. The profession is well and truly dead. We just need to convince some religious fanatics that their religion is bunk.
"If a virus requires a living cell to replicate and stay "alive" how does it spread to infect others?"
I already regret getting into this fight, nonetheless I can't help calling out what is an obvious straw man fallacy: viruses are not alive, and so it follows that they don't die nor are they able to be killed, and there is no requirement that they must stay alive
However, in their possessing of structure, in that their activities are bound and described by chemistry, and in that their morphology and mechanisms of action and interaction are genetically-encoded such that they are subject to selection and genetic drift, they are susceptible to all manner of effects that may develop, or more likely disrupt, disable, or even destroy them.
As to their transmission, I'll leave that for someone else to tackle, perhaps someone who is not located in an inconvenient timezone as I am and really needs to get to bed. But I will ask what dpl makes of these extraordinarily elaborate fictions of the kinds such as the fortuitous angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 receptor binding site of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein undergoing post-translational palmitoylation of the first five cysteine residues of the C-terminal cysteine-rich domain of the SARS-CoV-2 S protein which are indispensable for infection, and the even more unlikely advent of a four-amino acid insert starting with proline (SPRRAR|S) at the junction of the receptor-binding (S1) and fusion (S2) domains of the spike protein, which is a potential cleavage site for the protease furin, and which in turn can trigger conformational changes that release the S2 fusion peptide for insertion into the cell membrane initiating membrane fusion and viral entry, then subsequent expression and localization of the spike to the host cell membrane can induce cell–cell fusion among neighboring cells (forming multinucleate enlarged cells called syncytia), which has been hypothesized to facilitate virus spread among fused cells without exposure to neutralizing antibodies. All rather elaborate if not utterly grotesquely ornate complexification if all you're trying to do is to push onto the people a fiction that viruses cause disease and accordingly people should defend themselves and their grandmas from infection by just shutting-up, obeying and getting themselves injected with this brand-new mRNA gene therapy treatment that we're calling a "vaccine" and you should too if you don't want what's otherwise coming to you - don't you think?
All I read was a load of waffle... This argument is unbelievably easy. I will start with what was discussed before you drifted to something else. That is the issue of "finding" a virus. You now say that a virus does not die or dissipate (struggling with the words seeing as we are trying to describe a fairy tale). Please tell me why it is that no virus has ever been isolated (or purified if you are very familiar with the terminology) from a sample alleged to contain a virus without having to culture it first... If it cannot be found outside a cell in a sample then transmission of the fairy dust you're trying to explain is nonexistent.
Now... Moving on to transmission. There is an unbelievably easy test anyone can do in a well controlled environment to settle this debate yet no one, over 2 centuries has done it. That is to confirm that a sick person can make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways. Before you try and explain this downstream waffle you need to first settle this massive assumption which you have started out with. If a sick person cannot make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways. All your downstream arguments are irrelevant because there can be no virus without it having the ability to spread.
I've summarized it pretty well in the below article. You are more than welcome to rebut the article which contains more than 70 peer reviewed publications categorically proving what you are explaining in such beautiful virology dribble is nothing but a fantasy.
"Please tell me why it is that no virus has ever been isolated (or purified if you are very familiar with the terminology) from a sample alleged to contain a virus without having to culture it first..."
You really don't know the first thing about viruses, do you? Nor about straw man arguments either, it seems, because you seem blithely unaware when you're attempting to make them.
This is likely why you keep repeating the same old saws..
We both can play this imbecilic game, but it wouldn't serve either of us or our arguments. And besides, why are your questions more deserving of answers than mine? Calling technical detail 'waffle" is not addressing the quandary I presented. On the other hand, it's easily construed as an admission of your plainly insufficient technical literacy, and instead of reacting to your inability to understand the subject with humility, you resort to disparaging dismissals. The Dunning-Kruger Effect comes to mind.
You keep expecting detractors to your "viruses aren't real" doctrine to read your "evidence" - your own articles - but you won't read any other's literature, it seems, because you keep asking that others to do the work for you and identify and present the evidence, ready-made and easily-digestible for you. It's all out there - volumes and volumes of it, in fact, so you best lower your "viruses aren't real" blindfold for a few hours or months or however long you'll need and get to work.
Evidence for viruses is the same as for Tooth fairy. It's only indirect evidence (a coin under the pillow), but they've never been isolated in reality. It's just a story for adults, just like Tooth fairy is a story for children.
An expensive story which cost them money and health, buying drugs which they don't need, for viruses which don't exist..
Logic 101 might help you understand this. Think about what it means to be in "close contact" with another person- say, for example, a person whose body is infected with a virus, and is shedding virions. Do I need to go on?
"So someone becoming sick in Antarctica or a dessert is a mystery to you? Probably of those miracles by the virology gods."
Aha,! Well, it so happens that I have spent a good while in Antarctica and, let me tell you, during the southern summer, there are hundreds of people around, with more coming and going every day. No miracles were required for becoming sick, because people (ironically - or not - especially the vaccinated ones) tend to be pretty good viral disease vectors.
"But a virus can NEVER be isolated without culturing..."
This had gotten tedious, and even my prodigious endurance is nearing depletion.
Your waffle is becoming tedious indeed. You know fair well what I meant by the examples I gave.
Send me a paper where they've isolated a virus without culturing...
The only example you'd be able to come up with is bacteria phages another one of virology's brilliant cons as these do not cause disease in man.
Send me the paper that proves a sick person can make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways and send me a paper where they've isolated you fairy dust without culturing then we can decent into your delusion of technicality of the digestive system of a unicorn.
Through normal bodily expulsion /shedding - via exosomes for example - of cells infected with a virus. Through the infected person breathing out droplets containing infected mucosal cells that line the airways. Through touching the saliva other bodily fluids from an infected person, and then touching your eye , for example; if you swallowed it your stomach acid may/may not kill it depending on how lethal it is ( I would not want to swallow cells infected with Ebola (virus), for example!)
How do YOU think an infection spreads from one person to another?
How did I get chicken pox or measles from my friend when I was a kid? How did I (and 6 other people - that I know of) get COVID (SARS CoV2 infected cells) from a single infected person?
Read the article. Contagion is 100% unfounded. If you have a clinical stufy proving it then give it to us and we will examine it and review our position if it valid.
In the meanwhile you can dig some more. Here are the two most detailed controls ever published also dismantling your cute analogy.
Because there are people who blatantly lie about this topic to misdirect others. It's a fairly easy truth to come to... Even by the virologists own literature.
If you have an open mind you might want to take in their arguments rather than buy into a rather shameful post by Dr. Nass that amounts to an adolescent level attack that mirrors exactly what msm does to RFK Jr and has done to numerous doctors and others who have been silenced for the last few years. These are not "cultists" and they offer very strong arguments because they know the history of virology and have done their research. The pictures of "viruses" offer nothing specific at all. I'm not saying they're definitely right but it's clear there is plenty of fraud in our institutions and that 'viruses' are big money makers and now a method of total control of populations. You could begin here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gzDLbUx6zESq/
If you'd get your head out of social media and spent even a little time researching viruses and how they affect ALL life forms, and have since the beginnings of life on earth, you might have some appreciation for those engaged in REAL scientific endeavors instead of simply allowing ignorant social media posters feed your own uninformed paranoia.
I always love responses that presume omniscient knowledge about the person being responded to and "called out" so to speak. Perhaps I should be reading mainstream news or watching corporate broadcasting? REAL scientific endeavors like the genocide being perpetrated around the world for the past 3-4 years? Is that the type of "science" you're referring to wherein those who don't play by the medical cartel rules endanger losing jobs and medical practices and even their licenses? Or perhaps academics who lose all their research funding and may be forced to retire for not being part of "consensus science": which is an oxymoron in terms of what science actually entails? Okay, I don't have more time i have to stick my head back into 'social media' because this exchange (which is online so how is it different from social media?) is getting scary and I'm beginning to feel sooo paraaanooiiddd.... I'm so frightened now!! Where's my twitter space?!!! OMG
Where did I deny the Machiavellian bullshit that has been going on? There IS a difference between pseudo-science and REAL science dontcha know. Then there is ANTI-science which is rife on this post. Is THAT the camp where you've pitched your tent? If so then you'd better be scared. Things are gonna get much worse.
Go ahead and defend the mockery of "virus isolation" that the entire field of virology is established upon. Based on the complete lack of meeting this standard of isolation I do think it is accurate to say that the field of virology is primarily a speculative and theoretical field and not scientific. Pour through the criticisms with an open mind and deal with what the dissidents bring to the table instead of spewing, "anti-science", "pseudo-science" while defending assumptions with a foundation based in quicksand. Don't bother me with empty platitudes that assume you're right when you don't seem to offer anything other than insults. Just like Dr. Nass did with this post, all you do is make a mockery of your position by exhibiting a closed-minded attitude that deserves zero respect. Watch 'The Viral Delusion'. Do I think they're right about everything? Probably not, but they're doing serious critique and exposing issues that the institutions cannot afford to deal with, and what I do know is that the current medical/scientific institutional establishment is rife with corruption and fraud and it just gets more and more obvious that it's largely garbage and not about science at all. Good day.
Oh really? I wonder what you'll be saying when that super bioweapon bug crawls up your anti-scientific ass and only pus extrudes from where your words used to. Delusion is what you and your fellow cultists engage in. WTFU and smell the VIROLOGY dude.
I am open to other theories of disease (or anything else) but proponents need to show that they can both explain existing data and experience better than the virus theory and offer substantially better health outcomes.
There are plenty of flaws in the vaccination regime we have been under for the past several decades but that does not necessarily mean virology itself is based on a false premise.
We cannot really see atoms either but the theory of atomic nuclei has allowed us to build workable nuclear power and weapons and therapy. Recently there have been refinements of what an electron is, but it doesnt change the fact that electricity works.
Viruses have been photographed since the 1940s with the tobacco mosaic virus, which was also the first virus ever identified in the late 1800s. Nor can a virus be "bred" since it isn't a living organism- just a "package" of mRNA or DNA.
Yes, we transferred these viruses from plant to plant when I was in college.
The fact that none of the many virus naysayers posting here have answered any of my questions suggests to me they are not serious contenders, but most are getting paid to post nonsense.
The sheer number of posts by each no-virus advocate suggests rabid motivation. That comes either from being paid, or from the fervor of proselytizing as part of a cult. Can you people offer any other explanation for why you don't just say your peace and go away? You keep beating a dead horse.
"Rabid motivation" - yes - that's it! I was trying to figure out why such a barrage of venomous , vicious attacks is being posted. and all from - frankly - seemingly INSANE people! (It reminds me a littel of Don Lemon's stream of vicious attacks on the unvaxxed! ) You have hit the nail on the head, I think! :)
<3 only person in the discussion we know for a fact gets money to post is you, Meryl . And this is the only instance I’d qualify a post of yours as nonsense although I’m sure my assessment isn’t of any importance.
Why is positing for money your only explanation for the no virus people and why is it bad in that context but not your own?
Honestly question: which industry or big whale is going to pay comments for the most unpopular health freedom narrative? Why would they target your Substack as opposed to being real subscribers .
I am not only not getting paid nor seeking it but maybe I’m just dumb but I haven’t the slightly clue as to who would pay for my posting on this topic in comments.
Why does it have to be a conspiracy of sorts to make sense to you ? Bob does this too. Quick to insinuate conspiracy or chaos agents or some other such thing rather than individuals expressing themselves in earnest.
So even if it’s a small list I’d be curious.
By contrast I submit there’s innumerable sources of funding for authors coralling people safely inside the viroLIEgie paradigm
So what gives and I’ll max out my subscription to you if you lead me to a payday (I am very poor and while this is tongue and cheek hey if ever I’ll keep my word). If I got paid to express what i think anyways but at “dark chaos agent rates “ I’d sign up so long as it didn’t force content to post or otherwise sacrifice any principles I hold dear ;3
423 commenters in under 12 hours, most posting rubbish. I'd say that is an army, may some bots, trolls, and almost all never posting here before.
None has answered any questions I posed: in other words, they can read off their talking points but cannot engage in a logical argument. If they cannot answer simple questions about their theory, it seems it is not their theory. They don't understand it themselves.
Commenters or comments? Sounds like the latter and sounds like you have watered down your first claim of 'many naysayers'. Looks more like the small handful Alexander suggested.
How do you not understand the argument 3 years in? Again, you MUST be being stupid on purpose.
There's no theory to explain. It is a REFUTATION of a theory. The theory YOU promote, where the BURDEN OF PROOF lies with YOU.
And what do you do with that burden? Like a churlish child you say 'Im not playing with Cowen et al (ie meeting that burden) because they haven't convinced me of a singular alternate theory. As if that has anything to do with anything. Unbelievable. You are walking proof that intellect and logic don't necessarily go hand in hand.
So if those "terrain" clowns are NOT getting paid by attracting a cult following of scientifically ignorant and paranoid social media consumers, why then are they pushing their bullshit so hard? Answer: they ARE getting paid, and in the old-fashioned snake oil salesman's way, by pushing "products" and "services" on their personal websites. See how easy it was to answer all your passive-aggressive questions?
I can say the same thing about you, i.e., you are getting paid to attack those who question an unsubstantiated claim about existence of biological viruses.
It's the same all over social media. I'm sure the pushers like Kaufman, Cowan, and the Baileys are getting paid. Not so sure if their flunky followers are also. They seem more like cultists shooting up koolaid.
Be so kind and show us scientific papers for what you claim.
I would like to see how they were identified, then how their vital processes observed or how they were experimented on in a form of independent variables.
I will even pay you 50k USD for evidence that irrefutably proves them.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. EVs are identical to so called viruses. Please tell us how the separate EVs prior to EM to ensure the sample is pure...
The reason there are billions of ‘viruses’ seen on electron microscopes is because what is being looked at are dead cell particles, each one different like a snowflake. However, looking at cell debris on an electron microscope and pointing out some random particle provides absolutely no proof of any pathogenic virus.
So do you want crackers with that, Polly? Parroting the terrainTARD gurus' bullshit isn't "proof" of anything, except that you can repeat bullshit. NONE of that is an accurate description of what goes on under an electron microscope or inside the human body. Exosomes DO exist, btw, but they don't contain FOREIGN RNA or DNA. And in case you weren't aware, as you obviously aren't, viruses are not "cells", but are "capsids" which "encapsuate" RNA or DNA.
INSTEAD OF DEMONSTRATING YOU UNDERSTAND THE "NO VIRUS" POINT OF VIEW, YOU GASLIGHT AND MAKE FUN OF THEM. THAT'S NOT A DEMONSTRATION OF A GOOD SCIENTIST NOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS US TO COME TOGETHER AND NOT BE DIVIDED. YOUR RHETORIC STOPS UNDERSTANDING AND COLLABORATION NOT PROMOTES IT.
I'd say it's the great work of a coward. There is no room for debate. So, she made sure she can write some dribble without having to debate anyone. Brilliant move. You can actually learn something from this gatekeeper.
WHEN WE OBJECT TO PEOPLE'S WRITING AND POINTS OF VIEW WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T EMBODY WHAT WE OBJECT TO....WE WANT TO CALL THEM OUT IN A WAY THAT GIVES THEM ROOM TO CONSIDER THEIR WORDS AND POSITION. WE DON'T ASK PEOPLE LIKE MERYL WHO CLEARLY HAVE A PULPIT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, JUST DEMONSTRATE THEY UNDERSTAND THE OTHER POSITIONS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO HOLD THOSE VIEWS WITHOUT NAME CALLING OR BELITTLING OR GASLIGHTING THEM. IE. THESE FOLKS WHO BELIEVE IN "NO VIRUS" BELIEVE THAT....ETC, ETC. ...AND THE SCIENCE I'M LOOKING AT DEMONSTRATES THAT VIRUS' ARE REAL BECAUSE....BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...WHILE THEIR SCIENCE SAYS THAT THE VIRUS HAS NEVER BEEN ISOLATED VIA KOCH AND THAT THEY HAVE LIVE MICROSCOPIC EVIDENCE THAT CELLS MORPH INTO VIRUS' IN THE BODY..BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...THAT'S HOW A RESPECTFUL AND PRINCIPLED DISCUSSION MIGHT GO. RESPECTFULL OF ALL.
You're being rather silly and overreacting to what I consider a necessary statement to wake people up to the fraud being perpetrated in order to confuse and control us. I was "respectful" of these charlatans and controlled ops at the beginning when they emerged in full force in 2020. But after repeated failed attempts to get them to explain certain pertinent details of their "theories" it became clear they were being driven by an agenda and were totally disingenuous actors. They don't DESERVE any respect any more than NAZIS or KKK monsters do and it is a big mistake to give them any benefit of doubt. They should be confronted then summarily dismissed at every opportunity.
When you are a snarker, there is a molecule of intelligence that is not evident when you are printing get out of jail passes for the medical cartel virus hunters...
At this point I just ignore or block them. Its a religion much like Covidianism. If you believe there is no virus then the scientists who engineered the virus committed no crime in your mind. If you believe WIV engineered the virus then the US scientists who engineered the virus are off the hook. Get it?
Has the toxin been isolated and the paper published?
Funny how government and scientists in China and Russia have gone along with the conspiracy for 100 years even during the Cold War and still playing along with it today.
I usually ignore/block them too but I thought it would be entertaining to engage with them one last time and also help increase the activity and reach of this post. Because I so admire the work of Dr Nass and deplore the treatment she's received both by her own profession and the captured mainstream media.
According to the “no virus” claim, even immunology is a scandal. It’s better to get a clear confirmation from a group of super knowledgeable “no virus truthers”.
No virus claim is a claim that existence of viruses is not proven to exist and that the burden of proof is on those who have made a claim that viruses exist as per logic. I and others did our research and no one is able to prove them. Even government institutions from around the world are unable to do this.
All research papers we have seen do not prove any virus as well.
The only proof you would accept is having a virus big enough for you to see coming up to you and say “ Howdy? I am a big virus and I really do exist. My tiny brothers and sisters are all around you”
There are hundreds of thousands of papers and many millions of uploaded sequences. There is much more evidence as well. Meanwhile your crew have not isolated the toxins and shown scientifically how they are responsible for the various diseases attributed to various infectious diseases except in very general terms
Completely shameful post that uses the exact methods of the abusers who are destroying everything they can as they attempt to push us into a total control system. Slander and ad hominem attacks to bypass debate and any prospect of measured thought and reason. Sorry, Dr. Nass, if this is your attitude you would get totally schooled by Dr. Kaufman or Dr. Cowan and perhaps get a real education, but I guess name calling is easier, and therefore RFK Jr is just a crazy anti-vaxxer. Unsubscribing
I'd say it's the great work of a coward. There is no room for debate. So she made sure she can write some dribble without having to debate anyone. Brilliant move. You can actually learn something from this gatekeeper.
She's doing great work in trying to bring awareness to the WHO agenda, but I've no reason to stay subscribed to her after this because it does raise serious questions. I do enjoy seeing how many people have come forth in opposition to this tactic and position and hopefully this has some impact.
LOL . what does a "a champion scientist and champion medical doctor." mean in terms of medical/scientific qualifications?
"champion" is just an unqualified adjective.
And what is your organization?
I expect you can look up Meryl's qualifications. I have a Masters in IT from the University of Liverpool plus a few Bachelor of Science degrees from other UK Universities. I have no medical training , but am quite well read on it as a result of the past 4 years
Omg you defend shameless, mercenary snake oil salesmen neither of whom is trained in microbiology or virology because your ridiculous cult has been called out! Who would want YOU as a subscriber? Wait. The cult is looking for you. Go where you belong.
Good! We need more on this. I think it is a psy op, like the "flexible sex" claims that conflate the biology of sex with the psychology of gender identity, which is so aggressively being promoted to lots of gullible people.
OK, I skimmed through it. I am not a scientist but pay attention to those who are. Whether the contagion is by virus or bacteria is of little concern to me. What most concerns me is the denial of contagion! How do you explain rabies and tuberculosis? What about the reality of Lyme disease? My REAL concern is how medical science has been weaponized and the political implications we have seen in the past three years. Clearly one's immune capacity(terrain) plays a major role on whether and to what extent a person falls ill. But what is it that triggers the illness under your perspective?
What you see in that article is every single attempt at proving transmission of a viral agent over the last 2 centuries. Every single one of them failed.
What I can say for sure is that anyone who wants to make an attempt at telling you why you are sick is most likely a grifter trying to sell you some magic potion. No one knows your lifestyle and the environment you expose yourself to. There is a plethora of poisons you expose yourself to on a daily basis. As soon as your realize it's not a virus making you sick you can actually start to focus on what's really making you sick. Here is an example - https://www.bitchute.com/video/v4XVOacLQD2Y/
Granted there are many things, as cited in this (appreciatively SHORT) video that negatively affect health. But apparently you still think there is no such thing as contagion? Again, what about rabies and tuberculosis?
Rabies and tuberculosis have not been addressed specifically. In those regards, do you still reject contagion causation? I intend not to pursue this any further.
They (human-pathogenic viruses) didn't just fail the "no viruses" isolation requirements. They all fail, and always have, virology's standards for isolation (of the *causative* agent of disease) which are Koch's postulates, still referenced in virology textbooks. Even with the modification accepted that "viruses" are obligate parasites and must be grown in cell culture and not pure culture, no "virus" has ever passed the first postulate since they are detected in *healthy* and sick hosts. Meaning there isn't even established a consistent correlation with a specific disease, let alone the establishment of causation. Not long after virologists figured this out, the theory of specific immunity tries to explain that we don't get sick because our immunes systems defend and destroy the virus. But then, in contradiction, they claim that the viruses (which, mind you, have no brain nor metabolism and have supposedly only one function) go dormant and can be "carried" for many years.
This is not to say these particles and their genetic sequences aren't necessarily being detected or viewed via EM. But that their ability to CAUSE disease cannot be established from current evidence.
Also, from current evidence it's impossible to discard the possiblility that they may be beneficial, possibly symbiotic, helpful in removing or cleaning up after the actual cause of the disease and thus are found after the course of a disease has started. Much like when I dump waste into a compost bin, I'm likely to find a slew of microbes afterward, breaking it all down to something that is not harmful.
Virology has established that the role of viruses in general is to control microbial populations. They save us from bacterial and algal takeover. It's entirely possible, given the scarce effort expended in eliminating other possible causes (including microbial) for many so-called viral diseases, that the detected particles may indeed be putting out the fire and not starting it. The original SARS-Cov-2 isolation paper documented that the researchers tested for the presence of a whopping 4 bacteria and 18 known viruses before deciding that the cause of the atypical pneumonia was most likely a novel "virus". 4 bacteria!
The researchers are ignoring broader virology and the known behavior of viruses in relation to other microbial life by neglecting the more obvious hypothesis that they may be simply performing their most common function in nature. No efforts are made to discard this once a suspicion is made of a "viral" cause of illness.
Do you see the problem?
Separately, controls in these experiments, often referred to as "mock-infection" is never discussed in any paper in a way that the methodology could be held to account or reproduced.
The point is that the evidence is very weak and even contradictory in some cases for the claims made.
And separately, viral "contagion", the idea that illness can be spread from one person to another via respiratory droplets, saliva, liquid from pustules, as a hypothesis has failed every controlled experiment that's tested it. There hasn't been an effort to even test it again with more modern and sensitive equipment and methods in many decades.
However, this disagreement doesn't have to make anyone angry.
Most people believe tons of nonsense that isn't based on objective fact and we still find ways to get along.
Virus "affirmers'" claims lack strong evidence. There simply needs to be more work done. Virus deniers choose not to put stock in an unproven narrative because they have seen the holes in the evidence, and the affirmers' never seem to want to be questioned or defend or fill in the holes.
Koch’s postulates don’t require the disease-causing agent to be sufficient to cause the disease, only that it be necessary. Go back to introductory logic class to understand what this means.
Hopefully Koch or someone else explains it a little better...
A living host is necessary for disease, doesn't make it causative. Oxygen is usually necessary, doesn't make it casuative of disease. Candida is a healthy part of everyone's microbiome, but when it gets associated with a certain pathogenesis, it's pretty clear in the current evidence that this is due to a problem with the host (terrain) and not the ubiquitous yeast species.
Some logic is useful. But pure logic without properly informed context can lead one to erroneous ideas.
Combustible matter may "contribute" to a fire but that doesn't make it the cause.
A dense or sharp object may be necessary to puncture one's abdomen, but the existence of them is not considered the cause of stabbings.
Etc. Etc.
Medical science is widely and loudly claiming that, via allopathic interventions targeted at these "viruses"… we will be free of the diseases they allegedly cause. This is a very strong and now, clearly, dangerous claim that is not well-founded in evidence produced via the careful application of the scientific method.
Also, it hasn't been showed by any type of randomized prospective trial to work in practice for any "virus". Another strike against the theory.
Also, most so-called pathogenic bacteria have yet to fulfill Koch's postulates. It's not just viruses.
I delivered a bunch of logic in this thread. But logic without context can lead to harmful ideas.
Here's all the logic one needs:
Have they done experiments to rule out other potential causes of disease? Environmental toxins? (Nope) Increased solar radiation from solar cycles, flares and winds weakening Earth's shields? (Nope) 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G EMFs, radar, did they study any of their long-term or short term effects on humans? (Nope) Pesticides (Nope) Algal blooms, fungal spores, baterial responses to such and associated prevalence. (Nope) ANYTHING else? (Nope)
So have they really narrowed it down to viruses? (Highly unlikely)
However, the field of virology (the topic of debate here) does claim to rely on Koch's postulates to establish "viruses" as causes of disease. See: any current virology textbook.
Again. There is no need for Koch's stuff as logic produced the scientific method.
If anyone claims that Koch's stuff is better than logic and the SM, then the burden of proof is on them.
Also no alleged bio virus has been logically proven.
BTW I am one of those who was teaching people like you about it since the beginning of 2020 by participating in public discussions with virologists and their supporters on social media platforms.
So BigPharma and other parties conflicted by economic interests, ought to be allowed to make the rules as they go.
Let me remind you of the purpose for peer reviewing
What is peer review?
Peer review is designed to assess the validity, quality and often the originality of articles for publication. Its ultimate purpose is to maintain the integrity of science by filtering out invalid or poor quality articles.
It is not about verification if a research paper adheres to the scientific method.
But it is about checking if the paper agrees with established dogmas. And usually it is done by someone who is neutral or friendly to those who created the paper.
>>>>>>It is not about verification ******if a research paper adheres to the scientific method*******.<<<<<
R E P E A T I N G
Its ultimate purpose is to *****maintain the integrity of science*******
I failed to see the area of disagreement
.
SPECIFICALLY
I don't want Pfizer to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase(a) it needs another gazillion dollars
I don't want the CIA to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase it wants to destroy someone's Presidency or effectuate a color revolution
>>>>>>It is not about verification ******if a research paper adheres to the scientific method*******.<<<<<
R E P E A T I N G
Its ultimate purpose is to *****maintain the integrity of science*******
I failed to see the area of disagreement
.
SPECIFICALLY
I don't want Pfizer to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase(a) it needs another gazillion dollars
I don't want the CIA to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase it wants to destroy someone's Presidency or effectuate a color revolution
Yeah the “crazed cultists” that painstakingly go through the abject fraud that is virology and their “isolation” papers ...
This is so incredibly weak.
The Lanka paper proves the methodology virologists use in and of itself causes the cytopathic effects claimed to be proof of a virus.
The methodology in any paper claiming isolation or discovery or a virus do not actually isolate, and they do not use proper control experiments (“control” gets less antibiotics and/or more nutrition.
Because what they run through a centrifuge is, by their own hands, ridiculously contaminating with dna of multiple species of animals, antibiotics etc, it proves nothing.
And yeah if people stopped believing of something only “shown “ to exist in silico (based on one computer program because 2/3 failed to come anywhere close to assembling the rna in a way that was consistent with SARS cov 1)
This is is such a low IQ, low respect and disingenuous ad hominem cop out .
Maybe you should worry about who might , inadvertently, be part of the gatekeepers racket cult, Meryl...
Honestly I’m stunned .
This is so insulting to your reader’s intellects it’s appalling.
I have to agree that this feels like a real low brow attack, a tactic that is entirely consistent with the ad hominem media mantra that helps makes the censorship machinery palatable to those who are incapable of engaging with ideas and differing viewpoints. This is entirely how RFK Jr is treated throughout the entire mainstream culture and he's entirely on point about vaccines and that's why no one will ever debate him.
I agree with Kaufman that if we don't "believe" in Covid that it would go away because by Covid he is referring to the absurd psyop we all went through for no actual reason. It was, and is, entirely dependent on the fear propaganda and gullibility of masses of people capable of believing govt & pharma care about your life, let alone your health. Frankly I've never heard he or any others say there certainly are not pathogens that may be viruses, but they point out the rather clear lack of solid scientific proof that what are called viruses in fact are so and are individually creating illness. Their critiques seem pretty solid and they might become more difficult to put aside if we ever get a real renaissance in science wherein ethics make a comeback.
Tom Cowan has been talking about the lack of a viruses for quite some time. I have heard him dissect the science in great detail. He thinks that we produce exosomes which match exactly what are called viruses. They are produced by the body when the immune system cannot eliminate foreign protein as it does with other microbes like bacteria or fungii. What is called a virus is actually the body's natural process to deal with a toxic poison like a foreign protein or chemical. The exosomes are the so-called viruses.
What he has explained but still doesn't sit easily is how we get massively spread illness like people getting sick before the 'vaccine.' Cowan says it is universally spread poison but there is no evidence presented as to how this spread happens so quickly. If it is the water as some say, why wasn't there greater illness at the beginning. Many logistic questions stilll need answerig.
Brian Ardis thinks he discovered one toxin but it is from the 'vaccine.' He talks about snake venom protein in these drugs which produces the symptoms many report. Anti-venom treatment works to heal people. Well, in homeopathy, 2 remedies that work to help people with Covid are snake remedies. One is cobra and the other is krait. Ivermectin is anti-parasitic which is snake/worm like so makes sense that it works to heal/cure people.
And last, even Fauci has said he cannot provide a sample of the alleged virus when requested by other labs in the world for them to do research on it. Is he lying? Good possibility. Is he truth telling quietly so most people never heard him? Also a goo possibility.
Tanya:
I was at the first Dallas WAPF conference. Dr Cowan closed the second half of his presentation with the sentence, “You have to have the COURAGE to see the world as it really is.”
Just so convenient for the criminals if all these patented viruses suddenly don't exist. Next thing to go? No such thing as psychopaths or evil. Yeah crime is just a figment of someone's imagination. Now racism that's different.
Imagine the chutzpah to come on a world famous doctor's site and lecture her. Could these be tests of their propaganda. Put out total nonsense and then measure the affect. Yeah we still got enough to stay in power.
Just the opposite. Exposing virology shows that all "virus" based quackcines, tests, research, etc all based on fraud/delusion, and that we don't need to fear each other when sick. This truth is a massive threat to industry and government. It exposes not only evil but widespread incompetence and delusion as well.
Christine!
Thanks for your rational presence on the Stack.
Just a touch of advice :
Don’t waste e-breath and time on this “frankly” (@johndahl44).
[frankly] is not interested in rational discourse.
If it acts like a 🧌 troll, treat it like a troll.
exactly
this.
And are you seriously suggesting that one must not challenge a "world famous doctor"?? Gee, what could possibly go wrong with an attitude like that...
Christine, thanks for posting my thoughts exactly.
One must wonder why some people get into the spotlight while others with valid counter-arguments remain stuck in the shadows...
😂
My guess is that the same is true of the Climate Change hoax and my initial proof test is Dr. Mann’s “hockey stick” lie. “Famous” scientists exerting control over others...
A quick tossed out comment on my part, let me clean it up a bit.
Some people get the kind of attention that loudly proclaims this message is a threat! The truth rings the gong. Lies spread prolifically do not resonate the same.
You could have millions of likes and you will never have the status I speak of Christine.
Dr. Nass has it.
Go challenge Breggins and see how long it takes to get banned for 100 years.
the "patented viruses" not existing will DESTROY the criminals whole base...
Patents do not prove existence of what is patented.
Are you talking about the criminals that have paid Billions in fines for fraud, big pharma?
Very well stated, Frankly. I couldn't agree more.
Dear Frankly, Yiu mention world famous Doctors. Galo, Fauci, Montagnier, all famous but all wrong! Kerri Mullis was world famous for his discovery of the PCR test. He stated that it would not diagnose any active disease, and yet this is what all these world-famous Doctors used. He also won the Nobel Prize for this work, so I think he knows what he is talking about. A test for a nonexistent thing that was never able to find anything is not science!
Wrong again fatso. Montagnier won the Nobel as well. By your logic, he was right. One of his many astute observations was that Covid 19 virus was a manmade virus.
I❤️Dr Cowan
Well this is where Cowan and the No virus team become ‘movement’ people a nd just condescending.... as if the last 30-50yrs smart everyday folks dont see this... Their alternatives to germ theory and other topics he has spoke on ie. Is there really such thing as nuclear bombs or fission?!? One of his podcasts.... just seem conjecture based alternative cause thats what im looking for ....
No one has to give any alternative to something if they challenge it.
Get your logic straight and bring valid arguments.
Bullshit then ‘making shit up’ or conjecture based i live the terrain theory
Snd observe the germ theory or as cowan calls it ‘observational phenomena’ fuk u and ‘get my logic straight’ 😆thats a goos one
I was shocked to hear Cowan dismissing nuclear weapons based on a book (or documentary
I watched that podcast and was shocked that Cowan was espousing the "no nukes" theory based on some guy who wrote a book that claimed that Hiroshima wasn't nuked...so I posted multiple video's of nuclear test explosions...both US and Russian...that could not have been faked...never got a reply....he better stick to viruses and leave physics alone
Yeah he was basing on a book, very speculative but the point i took from it was , they aint releasing toxicology/death reports so what the actual flame was is still a mystery. Why????? No one can be held accountable at this point… but i asked the question ‘ if no nuclear fission/fusion whatever ya wanna call it, then the whole Oppenheimer and every other country, Russia \China technology must be in on the same global lie…. As in they claim the same thing, and are all on the same global page lie?!?? He never gave a response
No one has proven explosive nuclear reactions. And none of your videos proves them.
Also you have never witnessed such processes and verified them being nuclear.
One factor that plays into why were their many who got Sars-CoV-2 could be linked to what was happening across America during the lockdowns. According to Reinette Senum, Dr. Lee Merritt and others is the erecting of 5-G towers effecting the health of people. Dr. Gary Null and Richard Gale have written exhaustively on this topic and how 5-G affects health and environmental safety. https://garynull.com/?s=5+g
Gary and Richard do amazing work , it was actually on Gary’s daily radio show at noon where i first became aware of Dr’s Nass , Malone , Mccullough, Tenpenny , and countless others who are in the trenches fighting the good fight against the raging tyranny , a tyranny so subversive that the vast majority are still unaware of it's actual existence
Malone is a lying SERPENT
He tells some truths, but then so does Satan.
bartonellaceae is the longest one word anagram from his full name.
"Bartonella species can infect healthy people, but are considered especially important as opportunistic pathogens."
from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartonella
So I go for 'opportunist pathogen' for Malone.
Christopher A Tracy = trustworthy. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090770834702
Its not just localised toxins that Tom mentions. The truth is that in many caseswe simply can't say that we know one way or another what could be causing the phenomenon that appears as a viral contagion. Pheremones/environmental/Telepathy who knows nothing is off the table. All that matters though is that they cant prove contagion of a viral particle iliciting the same symptoms in the recipient of supposedly contaminated bodily fluid.
Germ theory, as in a specific 'germ' causes specific disease is what they are mainly challenging by exposing how nebulous their methods and conclusions are. It's about control and profits, and if it weren't for maintaining income I think most scientists are humble enough to say we understand so little still and the body and its relation with the environment is far more complex then we can understand. Germ theory and the notion of 'viruses' being something to fear is ridiculous when looked at closely. Our culture is unhealthy, our lifestyles, the poisoning of the environment, the stresses we put ourselves under well beyond natural forces, etc... It's amazing what the body can deal with--- all the bacteria, the invisible elements and so forth, and especially with sanitation and clean drinking water there is no reason we have anything to fear but opportunists who need to think themselves as elite that need to exploit and be in control of everything and everyone. The accumulation of toxicity and our stressful and unhealthy lifestyles due to largely unnecessary pressures are what we have to deal with, not invisible entities that create titillating fears to be exploited by soulless merchants of death.
Yes Bradley, absolutely bang on my friend.
https://robdubya.substack.com/p/it-was-the-germs-wot-done-it-sir
The "universally spread poison" is electro-magnetic radiation, wireless EMFs, whatever you want to call 'em. Read Firstenberg's THE INVISIBLE RAINBOW.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/6TgUxtmjUSBs/
Precisely.
Lest we forget, 5G was rolled out at the same time as covidcon. And the symptoms of 5G exposure are the same as the flu (covid).
We can't talk about that, Kyle. That would get to the source of it all!
Not being able to explain the spread is not the same as finding virology a fraud! If anyone who knows the scientific method see how they come up with a virus, it is laughable, on par with alchemy or unicorn ology. One thing that he cannot find does nothing to discredit what he did find, and he found that virology is a fraud!
The next time we come across a rabid mammal, I'll give Tom Cowan a call to see if he'll volunteer to prove us wrong.
good luck finding a "rabid" animal...they are as rare as a pink unicorn
Cowan, Kaufman and especially Ardis are charlatans. Ignore them.
>>>>>Fauci has said he cannot provide a sample of the alleged virus when requested by other labs in the world .<<<<<
EXACTLY . The Chinese Communist Party REFUSED to share any data about the alleged SARS-CoV2 virus and the made the Wuhan Lab data base INACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE.
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/chinas-coronavirus-cover-up/
So even if it is true that SARS-CoV2 , exists there is no way Fauci and Co to scientifically know its appearance or pathogenicity
Do you want to study "exosomes?" We can do that.
"Exosome biogenesis machinery is hijacked by viruses to initiate replication, spread infection, and evade the immune response. Exosomes, however, also participate in protective mechanisms by triggering the innate immune system."
"Multifunctional role of exosomes in viral diseases: From transmission to diagnosis and therapy"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35367363/
Before pointing to 'studies' about viruses, you must prove those 'viruses' exist, are transmissible from host to host, and cause disease.
Please, do that, first.
Otherwise, I can talk about studies about Santa Claus and Tooth fairy and tell you a bunch of stories about them, too..
Please prove the isolation of an "exosome." Otherwise, they don't exist.
Agreed.
No viruses or exozomes exist, unless they are proven to exist.
Please, prove they exist.
I believe Cowan calls the ‘observational phenomena’ because this is where the terrain theory’ gets murky.... but you nailed it👏🎯
1st step of scientific method is to observe a natural phenomenon.
pseudoscience - a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method
So the discussion was about virus deniers, a title I am happy to ordain. We are a million miles past the idea that pathogens "may" be what they call virus. It is the foundational scam that the medical cartel has bought hook line and sinker. Why does anyone think that converntional mainstreamer promote the Quaxcines???
Right! Does anyone know what happened to the seasonal flu? Or the common cold? They must have been on vacation during covid. We need a milk carton so everyone will be on the lookout for them! One of Doctors stated to me privately that this was nothing but a flu, and he was right, but if you send an elderly person home, and tell them to come back to the hospital when they are really sick, instead of early treatment as doctors have always had the right to do, but were not allowed to do this time and for the first time in memory, then what do you suppose will happen to these older people when they come in so sick, then treat them with Run death is near (Remdesivir) and nothing else, they are going to perish, and they did. Now I commend Dr. Nass for doing the right thing, but now that she has stepped on her lip about viruses, I have to wonder why.
SARS COV2 IS REAL:
Normal mortality rates in 2020 (other than some localised spikes caused by lockdowns, Midazolam, ventilators etc).
No proof of contagion.
Flu disappeared.
Motorbike accidents etc rebranded as 'covid' deaths.
Covid skeptics and the 'elite' got on with their lives and ignored all 'covid' measures without 'catching' it.
SARS COV2 IS NOT REAL:
Normal mortality rates in 2020 (other than some localised spikes caused by lockdowns, Midazolam, ventilators etc).
No proof of contagion.
Flu disappeared.
Motorbike accidents etc rebranded as 'covid' deaths.
Covid skeptics and the 'elite' got on with their lives and ignored all 'covid' measures without 'catching' it.
If 'SARS COV2' was real we must acknowledge it has all the characteristics of not existing and not causing any noticeable sickness or death - except through fraud and deception by human hand.
Having the characteristics of not existing is the same as not existing... so .... :)
Do you remember the T-shirts a few years back with the big, block message on the chest: EBOLA IS REAL? Everyone needs to go back and look at how the sinister "they" attempted to freak the world out with that psyop of the day. No, no, let's not talk about contaminated water, filthy living conditions, etc..... "It's a deadly virus! New vaccine to the rescue! Sit tight! We're on it!"
Beautifully simple analysis.
"Beautifully simple analysis."
Thanks. I like to keep it simple....
https://odysee.com/@CoronaStudies:3/coronastudiestrailer1:5
Exactly right!
indeed it is out of character and the post is inflammatory, and worked a charm
Either the poster was not Nass, or she is without clue. The issue you have introduced about the "flu" going to zero when the Covidiocy took its place should shut put an end to the discussion in a rational world.
In Godless times suckers & fools can be made to believe anything! And if you don't believe, you will be cast out of the Godless Church of Liftism, as Ann Coulters' book of the same name so tells us!
have not heard of that book but know about the author
The best word I have heard is Scientism (blind allegiance to authoritative lies from expert scientists) Midwestern Doctor did a comprehensive analysis recently
He is not the first.
Try this! "If a martian landed in America and set out to determine the nation's official state religion, he would have to conclude it is liberalism, while Christianity and Judaism are prohibited by law.
Many Americans are outraged by liberal hostility to traditional religion. But as Ann Coulter reveals in this, her most explosive book yet, to focus solely on the Left's attacks on our Judeo-Christian tradition is to miss a larger point: liberalism is a religion—a godless one.
And it is now entrenched as the state religion of this county.
Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).
Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted. But Coulter neatly reverses the pretense that liberals are rationalists guided by the ideals of free inquiry and the scientific method. She exposes the essential truth about Darwinian evolution that liberals refuse to confront: it is bogus science.
Spot on!!
You are right about virus fraud, but I have to say you have a blind spot concerning Kennedy. He stated that he believes in vaccines, but good ones, not containing the chemicals we all know are in them. Problem, his lack of stating that there was no need for any of the vaccines because they were forced on our children long after these diseases were 99% gone and had nothing to do with vaccines at all. This is fact and it is historically correct. The other thing that makes him just another politician is his false ass kissing of Israel, acting as if they were the victims in Palestine. This is the proverbial third rail! Never criticize Israel no matter what atrocities the carry out going back to 1948. Zionism is not traditional Judaism, and if you do not know this then you have a great deal to learn. His apparent ignorance of facts is stunning, and this disqualifies him for the position, but if he does know and I am sure he does, then he is perfectly qualified to be President of a country that has lost its moral compas,
RFK Jr only supports SAFE vaccines and he clearly knows no vaccines are safe, so in fact he does not support vaccines
That has been my take, as well, on his contradictory stances. And in a video with Bret Weinstein from two years ago, he mentioned that this century's previous "pandemics" were all faked... although he then quickly states that this didn't apply to "Covid." But he did say it. So in true politician fashion, he speaks from both sides of his mouth. Question is: which side would his political decisions be made from, should he be in charge?
I suggest you go to his website and ask, they answer any questions you have, like people not politicians
excellent well stated point
Could be his objective is to destroy the Dem party, that seems to have already happened...
Do you even realize how you contradicted yourself in one sentence?
Sorry to correct you, but Susan demonstrated flawless logic here.
I commented elsewhere, that this was in fact a clever way for RFK Jr to not have to say he's anti-vaccine.
Yes, Kennedy's adament position on Israel is quite frightening. He put the lie to his claim of listening to all sides with a willingness to change his thinking. In one interview recently that I partially heard he was as aggressive to the questioners as some are to him when they want to shut him up or dismiss his positions. Did raise the question as to how much money he takes from the Israel Lobby and is he doing this to avoid the repressive effect of that Lobby's money which has been used to thwart any politician who even suggests caring for the Palestinians. Many on the Left who supported him have backed off including myself. His position on vaccines is really quite conservative but at least he recognizes the harm they have done including to his own children. Calling for meaningful safety studies is at least unique amongst political people so it gives some hope. He clearly supports environmental cleaning and has a very strong history in getting the Hudson River clearned up among other environmental issues. And he does support getting corporate control out the govt oversight agencies like FDA and CDC. That alone is a major differentiator amongst candidates. No one is perfect and we have to decide what combination of issues sets one above the other. The Palestinian issues is a major definitive one for me but who else do we have? Cornall West who is great on this but is not known and many won't support him due to their racism and corporate support.
The positives of RFK Jr outweigh the negatives.
No, if there is a balance sheet that vacillates he is disqualified.
Past tense.
@ Tanya. Question, Should have we/ USA have concerns for Japanese & German citizens, when fire and A-bombing their cites? Why are we friends now with the once evil Japs & Nazi Germans? Good people are not afraid to kill evil people, [when called for] why have sympathy for mass murdering, Hamas supporting Palestinians? Any more than the hundreds of thousands Jap & German women & children citizens, we smoked?
How many Japanese do you know? Many Japanese hate Americans because of the mass rapes by the US of their kids and women, beginning during the battle of Okinawa. The US is in the top countries in the world along with South Africa. Rapes by the US in Okinawa continue to make the news regularly today. The US sexual jihad against Japanese women and even minors why there is so much opposition to US bases in Okinawa today.
According to George Feifer the majority of the likely thousands of rapes [of Japanese women and children by US military] were committed in the north, where the campaign was easier and the American troops were not as exhausted as in the south. According to Feifer it was mostly troops landed for occupation duty who committed rapes.
Feifer, George (1992), Tennozan: The Battle of Okinawa and the Atomic Bomb, Michigan: Ticknor & Fields, ISBN 9780395599242
Feifer, George (2001), The Battle of Okinawa : the blood and the bomb, Rowman & Littlefield, ISBN 0762762543.
NCIS CASE FILES REVEAL UNDISCLOSED U.S. MILITARY SEX CRIMES IN OKINAWA
https://theintercept.com/2021/10/03/okinawa-sexual-crimes-us-military/
What should one expect from our 5 Billion in fruad fines/ Big Pharma's? Truth and honesty, or Death and Suffering?
Yeah sadly makes me think of the saying “Kill your idols “ (SIC) but they seem to be killing themselves faster than I can again all said I. context obviously - no violence is called for, recommend or desired
We might also mention his Cspan comment that "we" are in the Ukraine for all the right reasons. Still it appears he has single handedly blown an irreparable hole in the Dem Battleship. Kennedy is another virus hunter as John Rapport has so brillantly stated... Continuing to shoot himself in the foot is promoting the Kazarian Mafia most know as Israel not to be confused with the historical Jews.
Rappoport, auto correct is maddening
Not sure what Israel has to do with the discussion here, but I do believe we still will not see a presidential candidate (with even a slim chance) go against the mythos built up around the issue and betray the allegiance to the state of Israel. I do wish his position were more nuanced but not at all surprising this would be his position, and I frankly there is no "right" side to the deep historical mess once Israel became established thanks to western hegemony. He's no dummy-- he is not going to go as far as challenging the entire medical & scientific system wholesale, but if he happened to be in a position to change things he would ignite a major cleanup and shift that would lead to more of the truth going public that could create more of shift. It still seems human beings collectively have a long way to go before being able to swallow these truths and displace the psychopathic criminals.
"...Not sure what Israel has to do with the discussion here, but I do believe we still will not see a presidential candidate (with even a slim chance) go against the mythos built up around the issue and betray the allegiance to the state of Israel...." Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai claims he is the ONLY 2024 Presidential Candidate who does not zuck Zionists cock (sic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlrEUfOPxwA (1.5 min)
and a summary video on the origins of Zionism and how it relates to what is happening today with Netanyahu, the stock market, how Judaism was hijacked to provide political cover, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlfQOsDLwUE (20min).
I also saw S Ayyadurai say that. Similar to E Musk telling Disney, to _uck off on National TV. Each person is brilliant. Why have they so choosen these words? Shock appeal? Not candy coating it? Reveals? to garnish attention? Some combo?
He is no dummy.
The entire medical (not scientific, Scientism is the correct word) establishment alread has unrepairable holes, he would simply be ganging on not leading the charge. There may well be a reason he has not.
they call them Covidiots a term favored by Mr Dowd. It pokes fun and insults at the same time. Insults are at this time appropriate as this is a war, we are at war and terms like Covidiot are an offensive, not much different than giving a masked fool stink eye...
That may be a term he uses about those who now have cultish behavior but hurling insults or attacking people directly is always counter-productive-- it only puts people's defenses up and makes them angry so I totally disagree. It's one thing if someone tries to impose on me then I might get sarcastic and challenge that person but I know they have nothing to go on because their operating out of fear and ignorance. Stoking the fire of the divide and conquer tactics plays right into the hands of those designing such in-fighting.
Don't have a link to hand, but what about that video of RFKJr saying all the pandemics have been faked.. cough, er, um, except Covid of course, that's totally real... !?!?!?
Fun fact. His campaign site has nothing to say about vaccination mandates and his opposition to them. Nothing.
https://www.kennedy24.com/liberties
Sunk costs; those who like that know already. He's running for an election and its designed to appeal to more voters.
Really what would it cost to add a statement of opposition to vaccine mandates in under his “civil liberties” issues section — or anywhere? He is signaling that health freedom means nothing to him.
Its got nothing to do with costs and all about appealing to a certain undecided voter that comes to their website. Its a campaign website.
How could you know anything about redefined so-called "pandemics" where so-called doctors are forced to lie about deaths, miss inform sheeple on toxic experimental & clot shots! ALL promoted to you buy a 5 Billion in Fraud fines Big Pharmas! who has killed over 40,000,000 in just the last 50 years! according to Dr. Nulls well cited book, Death by Medicine?
Sage Hana just reposted that video clip.
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/bret-weinstein-tells-the-whole-truth
Thanks!
Well said!!!!!!!!
Alexander you nailed it. I suggested Meryl discuss this with Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy Newsletter, a man who has studied the history of "viruses" in detail.
Quit with the Victimese Whining, you sound like a true, blue Woke Neoliberal or ShitLib.
If viruses don't exist explain why the CIA & US military are spending certainly 10's of $billions on research on viral pathogens in bioweapons labs, many in 25 different foreign countries, 46 in Ukraine alone. Deadly pathogens are transferred under diplomatic cover. Sure going to a lot of trouble & expense for something that doesn't exist. Sure would be REAL HELPFUL to hire shills to spread disinformation such as "Viruses Don't Exist". Sure wouldn't want the public to scrutinize these illegal, expensive and dangerous Frankenstein Science research.
https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/
"...UP-4 project became known, which was implemented with the participation of laboratories in Kiev, Kharkov and Odessa and was designed for the period up to 2020. Its purpose was to study the possibility of the spread of particularly dangerous infections through migrating birds, including highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza [VIRUS], the mortality rate of which reaches 50 percent for humans, as well as Newcastle disease [VIRUS].
Due to the fact that Ukraine has a unique geographical location where transcontinental migration routes intersect, 145 biological species were studied within the framework of this project. At the same time, at least two species of migratory birds were identified, whose routes pass mainly through the territory of Russia. At the same time, information about migration routes passing through the countries of Eastern Europe was summarized.
Of all the methods developed in the United States to destabilize the epidemiological situation, this is one of the most reckless and irresponsible, since it does not allow to control the further development of the situation. This is confirmed by the course of the pandemic of a new coronavirus infection, the occurrence and features of which raise many questions. In addition, the R-781 project is interesting, where bats are considered as carriers of potential biological weapons agents [VIRUSES].
Among the priorities identified are the study of bacterial and viral pathogens that can be transmitted from bats to humans: pathogens of plague, leptospirosis, brucellosis, as well as coronaviruses and filoviruses [VIRUSES].
The project is being implemented with the involvement of not only Ukrainian, but also Georgian biological laboratories controlled by the Pentagon in cooperation with the Virginia Polytechnic Institute and the US Geological Survey.
The analyzed materials on the UP-8 project, aimed at studying the Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever virus and hantaviruses [VIRUSES] in Ukraine, clearly refute the US public statement that only Ukrainian scientists work in the Pentagon biolabs in Ukraine without the intervention of American biologists. One of the documents confirms that all serious high-risk studies are conducted under the direct supervision of specialists from the United States.
In addition, the studied materials contain proposals for the expansion of the US military-biological program in Ukraine. Thus, there was evidence of the continuation of completed biological projects UP-2, UP-9, UP-10, aimed at studying the pathogens of anthrax and African swine fever [VIRUS].
The Pentagon is also interested in insect vectors capable of spreading dangerous infectious diseases. The analysis of the obtained materials confirms the transfer of more than 140 containers with ectoparasites of bats – fleas and ticks from the biolab in Kharkov abroad.
Another example is the German-funded project No. 68727 EN on the study of Congo-Crimean haemorrhagic fever pathogens and hantaviruses [VIRUSES]. As part of this project, one thousand blood serum samples of citizens from different regions of Ukraine belonging exclusively to the Slavic ethnic group were donated to the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine (Hamburg).
It is highly likely that one of the objectives of the US and its allies is to create bioagents capable of selectively targeting different ethnic populations..."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/breaking-russia-releases-captured-documents-un-special-council-meeting-exposing-evidence-us-military-biolabs-ukraine-video/
"If viruses don't exist explain why the CIA & US military are spending certainly 10's of $billions on research on viral pathogens in bioweapons labs, many in 25 different foreign countries, 46 in Ukraine alone."
1. Money laundering.
2. They never spent anything (it was you taxes they were spending).
3. They were actually developing toxic vaccines.
4. The 'accidental' leak of all this 'gain of function' research nonsense onto the mainstream media helps to fold covid skeptics back into the viral/ contagion paradigm ..... a paradigm which is worth trillions in vaccine profits and allows for continuous deployment of imaginary 'pandemics' until everyone is living in permanent lockdown (in their 15 minute cities) and the 'elite' have free reign over the rest of the world - all to "keep you safe".
5. Here are some of the 'scandals' which did NOT get leaked onto the mainstream news....... Midazolam murders, ventilator murders, false death certificates, rebranding of the flu, fake injections for the VIPs, fake vax certificates for VIPs, vax exemptions for most government departments and all pharma companies, no significant excess mortality in 2020, every contagion experiment for the last century has failed to demonstrate contagion, virology has been debunked many times and does not qualify as a science etc etc...... funny how the only 'scandal' that made it onto the 'news' is 'gain of function' research which makes the false 'covid' narrative even more scary ...
Excellent points.
Another reason is to keep actors on the payroll -- for example, to play first responder dressed in a spacesuit or to play patient keeling over on the street in Wuhan. Its fearmongering job done, Convid spread to the West but no one keeled over -- until the vaccines arrived.
1. Nonsense. They have hundreds of useful ways to launder money, it would be idiotic to do so for something of no value. Hey CIA, I'm here, you can launder money through me, give me a $100M to launder for you,. Yup.
2. The labs exist, are proven to exist and even cause local epidemics to occur. Read the article.
3. Yes, they were developing all kinds of pathogens, including many, in fact mostly viruses. Read the article.
4. No the leak (not accidental) proves they were lying all the time about their natural origin theory they still promote. That's proven. They just love the No-virus escape clause from their criminal actions.
5. And yet they went to incredible efforts to NOT allow the GOF research to get into the MSM news. Even got medical journals to publish bullshit articles promoting their "natural origin theory". The rest of what you stated is just Red Herring fallacies.
Even if virology was a proper science (it is not) the very concept of releasing disease causing particles to infect people randomly is completely at odds with the temperament of those who are being accused of such a thing.
These people are CONTROL FREAKS. There is no way they would create a scenario where people could get sick and die completely randomly.... including them, their friends, all the puppets they have installed into positions of power and influence etc.
But none of this speculation is necessary anyway, because there is no evidence that virology was ever a credible science or that viruses have ever existed (as described) or caused any disease in history.
Virology as a field of study was invented because the germ theory of disease was already failing. Virology labs have ALWAYS been a ruse to prop up a fake model of disease (contagion), in order to keep Big Pharma's drug selling business going. Virology was not born out of the discovery of viruses. Viruses (as defined by virologists) have yet to be discovered.
Every so called pandemic in history has been either caused by industrial toxins, vaccines and drugs, natural disasters (often leading to malnutrition) etc .... or it was completely fabricated such as 2009's 'swine flu' or 2020's 'covid'.
If I invest $20 billion in unicorn farms it does not make unicorns real. And neither does me declaring a 'global unicorn plague' and then making $$$ billions selling unicorn fences and unicorn repellant spray to the world.
Nice fable. Mostly a gish-gallop & red herring fallacy. You saying virology isn't a proper science means zip because you know zip. Why on Earth should anyone believe you when you have zero qualifications in the field?
"Mostly a gish-gallop & red herring fallacy."
Whatever.... The fact remains it makes no logical sense to let loose a random assassin onto the entire world's population.
And if such a random assassin were to exist we'd expect the world's elite political and industrial class to stay safe in air tight bunkers and only venture outdoors with their own personal air supply. But the opposite happened in 2020 - they all engaged in parties, international travel, affairs, hook ups, conferences, holidays and paid no attention to masks or social distancing.
"You saying virology isn't a proper science means zip because you know zip."
Virology isn't a proper science because it does not meet the basic requirements of the scientific method. It is not hypothesis driven or falsifiable, it relies on the reification fallacy and the subversion of language.
It has been shown that the methods used by virologists can produce the so called proof of a virus (CPE and genomic assembly) even without the presence of a sample of fluid from a sick patient. In other words, the methods, materials and technologies used by virologists contain all of the ingredients for so called 'viruses'. This is what makes virology a pseudo science, a scam and a criminal fraud.
If virology is a pseudo science and a fraud then it follows that experts in virology cannot be trusted any more than experts in scientology.
So your appeal to authority (despite being a logical fallacy) makes no sense.
"Why on Earth should anyone believe you when you have zero qualifications in the field?"
There is no need to believe me because I am not making any claims that require belief. You can research all of this for yourself. You can read the papers which expose virology as a fraud.
Or, with a few thousands dollars you can conduct your own 'virus isolation' experiments and prove to yourself that 'proof' of a virus can be obtained without even needing to add a sample of supposedly 'infected' material.
In 2020 millions of people used the non-diagnostic PCR process to test fruit, tap water, the pavement, goats, motor oil etc for 'sars cov2' and they got a positive result. This also invalidates the official narrative.
The various 'lab leak' narratives help to repair the official narrative and bring covid skeptics back into a state of unfounded fear and compliance..... ready for the 'next' pandemic and vaccine roll out.
1. It would obviously be a very good investment into demand generation for vaccines. Pharma is an uber-powerful political lobby and sponsor.
2. Why do they stay mostly local, except COVID only AFTER the mainstream media or its handlers decided it was time to play constant fearporn (evidence shows those sequences we around since late 2019 but no spike in bad health outcomes til crazy lockdowns and refusal of normal medical treatments start)
4. No mainstream actor nor media has or will touch "no-virus" with a ten foot pole. This is not some controlled opposition because almost no one except "antivaxxers" are even aware of it or bring it up to discredit. There is NO discussion of virus-denial in mainstream media, at all. It's pretty apparent they don't want people to know that there is even a debate.
5. Of course they don't want the puiblic thinking that their experiments may have contributed to a democide event instead of protecting against one, whether it's based on real or fictitious viruses.
Pharma is peanuts compared to Energy which is small compared to Banking which is all about control of entire nations, way, way beyond your Big Pharma hype. If they have money to blow they will spend as they always do on overthrowing governments, including our own. Makes Pharma look like a lemonade stand in comparison.
They're all connected..one doesn't work without the other..YOU are the one missing the point. So bamboozled you refuse to admit the truth.
Banking makes money through investing and interest. Sectors must be growing for both to yield. Plus, the bankers de facto own pharma. See who their largest shareholders are.
How do you think it's gone so far that the NCVIA act was written into federal law and no lawmaker will touch that issue with a ten foot pole?
Governments, 3 letter agencies and NGO's etc. always do lots of things for no value except for the contractors, politicians, civil servants etc., where have you been all these years?
There are useless computer programmes that don't work properly, white elephant buildings, vaccine funding, pharma research in general etc. etc.
GOF is a load of bollux and COVID 19 is the 'flu rebranded.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/wuhan-flu
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/gain-of-function-and-anthony-fauci
See #1
Here's a good resource for those starting to question the 'viruses':
https://open.substack.com/pub/boostershots/p/virus-denialism-for-beginners-germ-3af?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=tq9u1
If 'viruses' were real, you wouldn't be here to spew the nonsense about them ;)
So, does that mean if you are bitten by a rabid animal that you will be treating your rabies with antibiotics, or what? Sam Bailey said she believed rabies was caused by a bacterium. And when you do die of rabies after being bitten by a rabid animal because you treated it with antibiotics, will your family be suing Dr. Sam Bailey over her bad advice?
Dr Bailey does NOT state that rabies should not be treated !!!! She states that there IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT A PATHOGEN HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPEFy8mnlkc
I guess Sam Bailey believes rabies is caused by bacteria? See the 15:48 minute mark of her video.
"Toxin producing bacteria in their mouths". (15:48). Okay. Bacteria.
Maybe she can recommend a good antibiotic for you?
Pretty much no one died of 'rabies' virus. Please get yourself informed
You might want to inform yourself about rabies.. it will go a long way towards your understanding of 'viruses'
https://viroliegy.com/2022/08/08/rabies-the-virus-of-fear/
https://open.substack.com/pub/officialbrendanmurphy/p/the-rabies-delusion-revealed?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android
http://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/What-About-Rabies:a
If they had only done an appropriate detox, right?
"Rabies Acquired Through Kidney Transplantation in a Child: A Case Report"
Abstract
"Rabies is usually transmitted to humans through bites of infected animals; however, it can rarely be transmitted through deceased donor organs or tissues when not suspected. Here, we report a case of rabies transmission in a child. The child was a 5-year-old girl who was admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit with encephalitis of unexplained cause 3.5 months after she received a kidney transplant from a deceased donor. The laboratory and imaging studies did not reveal any explanation for her rapidly declining clinical and neurologic condition, which ended with death 4 days after admission. Death of another recipient from the same donor led to an investigation that revealed rabies as the cause. Both corneas were explanted from other recipients to prevent further death. Polymerase chain reaction sequence analysis of the corneas was consistent with a rabies virus from the same donor's state of residence. Rabies transmission, although rare, should be suspected when a donor comes from or has visited endemic countries. Donors with unclear causes of death should be rejected."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28411355/
Yeah. This kid just needed a good detox, right?
"Case Report: Survival from Clinical Rabies in a Young Child from Maharashtra, India, 2022"
Abstract
"A 3.5-year-old male child from Maharashtra, India, presented with features of meningoencephalitis approximately 1 month after sustaining severe bite injuries on the right hand from a stray dog. He had received four doses of post-exposure intradermal rabies vaccination (on days 0, 3, and 7 of the bite and erroneously on day 20, instead of day 28 as recommended in the updated Thai Red Cross regimen) as well as local and systemic injections of equine rabies immune globulin. The child was initially diagnosed with and treated for acute encephalitis syndrome before rabies encephalitis was confirmed by detection of rabies virus neutralizing antibodies in the cerebrospinal fluid. During the emergent period, he also received the antimalarial drug artesunate, recently reported to have antiviral effects against rabies virus. With intensive and supportive care, the child showed substantial clinical improvement over the next few weeks. He has now survived for more than 10 months after disease onset, albeit with severe neurological sequelae including diffuse cerebral and cerebellar atrophy."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37783454/
Two reasons: one, they don’t only work with (real or imagined) viruses, but also bacteria and distributable toxins like ricin or whatever other chemical weapons; two, making people think they have the capacity to control viruses is an important tool of perception. Remember that in WWII, inflatable tanks were used to mislead aerial observers.
How is it a tool of deception if they don't exist? That would be inflatable tanks when there are no tanks. We know 10's of $millions, if not 100's of $millions were spent on the Covid virus development, and much more on other viruses. Why waste all that money on something that doesn't exist. There are unlimited weapons systems they can pour money into that actually do something, if they want a slush fund. Your argument is ridiculous.
Money laundering.
There are hundreds of ways to launder money on things they actually want like Color Revolutions or MKUltra experiments. It would be stupid to throw money away on something completely useless.
Who said anything about throwing away $$? They could be doing anything with the money, just pretending to use it on "gain of function".
Regardless, unless someone can cite valid scientific evidence of the alleged "viruses" that were allegedly "gained" on, and the alleged resulting "GOF" version, there is no basis for claiming that the money was actually spent as claimed. They might have diddled about in labs, they might have even believed they had accomplished "GOF" but that is not the same as actually producing "GOF pathogens".
We are a thousand miles past citing evidence. It is an enormous fraud and by no means the first.
"Gain-of-function research" - 2022.
Abstract
"The term Gain-of-Function (GoF) describes the gain of new functions by organisms through genetic changes, which can naturally occur or by experimental genetic modifications. Gain-of-Function research on viruses is enhancing transmissibility, virus replication, virulence, host range, immune evasion or drug and vaccine resistance to get insights into the viral mechanisms, to create and analyze animal models, to accelerate drug and vaccine development and to improve pandemic preparedness. A subset is the GoF research of concern (GOFROC) on enhanced potentially pandemic pathogens (ePPPs) that could be harmful for humans. A related issue is the military use of research as dual-use research of concern (DURC). Influenza and coronaviruses are main research targets, because they cause pandemics by airborne infections. Two studies on avian influenza viruses initiated a global debate and a temporary GoF pause in the United States which ended with a new regulatory framework in 2017. In the European Union and China, GoF and DURC are mainly covered by the legislation for laboratory safety and genetically modified organisms. After the coronavirus outbreaks, the GoF research made significant advances, including analyses of modified MERS-like and SARS-like viruses and the creation of synthetic SARS-CoV-2 viruses as a platform to generate mutations. The GoF research on viruses will still play an important role in future, but the need to clarify the differences and overlaps between GoF research, GOFROC and DURC and the need for specialized oversight authorities are still debated."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36243453/
Cool story but there's no scientific evidence to back it up, including for "MERS" an "SARS-like viruses" to begin with. The GOF studies are bogus just like "virus isolation" studies. Sam Bailey has done at least 2 videos on the topic that might help you, also Mike Stone has written about it.
David Martin evens admits when pressed (i.e. by Alec Zeck) that virology is nonsense, there are no natural or manmade viruses.
Two words...Money Laundering
There are hundreds of ways to launder money on things they actually want like Color Revolutions or MKUltra experiments. It would be stupid to throw money away on something completely useless.
"There are hundreds of ways.."
Yep, and this is one of them.
Look at the TSA nonsense. Billions and billions spent, including Chertoff's body scanners. 90% of security theater is COMPLETELY USELESS and could be replaced by normalcy in border control. Even with all the tech, fake terrorists were shown in tests to be able to get things past airport security.
Yet we "throw" all this money "away" on useless airport militarization... Why? Because of OPTICS. Because of its psychological effects.
You say "useless", as though the value has to be material. The ability to hold the threat of "pandemic viruses" and "communicable bioweapons" over the globe is intangible but clearly quite large and valuable.
How does it get thrown away?
It legitimizes and generates huge demand for an imporant sector of the the pharmaceutical industry, one of the biggest lobbies and political sponsors to ever exist. So more like an investment, with taxpayers footing the bill.
Which is the (effective) purpose / inevitable outcome of a big gov't.
As the old addage goes: "A king is only loyal to his creditors."
For Pharma, it's actually a genius business model.
There are relatively few pharmaceutical interventions that actually work. The "eradication of polio" (which was done by a name-change by the CDC) is a big pillar of the narrative that builds up allopathic medicine among the public. A sacred cow of sorts, if you haven't noticed. That's why so many are triggered here on this substack.
Big pharma is peanuts compared to energy which is peanuts compared to Banking which is primarily concerned with controlling entire nations, like Ukraine or Russia. Pharma is a triviality compared to those objectives.
So giving money to Big Pharma for nothing would be stupid. They would give money to the MIC to build expensive weapons they hope to use to overthrow some gov't somewhere like Syria, Iran, Libya, Russia, Yemen, Sudan and so on. You figure they are going to make a complicated charade just to funnel cash to Big Pharma who is already getting more cash then they know what to do with through Fauci, NIH, FDA, WHO etc
Sorry, dumb idea.
woefully naive to even think it is not highly calculated and executed
It took down the world... the greatest transferance of wealth in the history of the world happened during and directly from Covidiocy
Yahbut it only works when people accept that it was a virus of "natural origin" or even No-virus. It don't work if they figure out it was a deliberately bioengineered virus, especially one deliberately & maliciously released around the World. Way to go, giving the CIA a way out. Nice job. Maybe they pay you?
No one has proven existence of any alleged bio virus.
It would be stupid if it was their money but as it is substantially taxpayers' money it is stealing. Billionaires and there cronies get richer, the masses get poorer, it is very simple.
If a virus is a myth, then Covid virus never existed and then the mRNA injections that mimic a virus are worthless. OOPs! Just destroyed a multiple billion dollar push to reinvent medicine! I go back to June of 2020 when Luc Montagnier proclaimed Covid 19 was a man-made gain of function lab produced virus and was immediately discredited on a global scale. Why? https://thomasabraunrph.substack.com/p/no-end-in-sight?utm_campaign=reaction&utm_medium=email&utm_source=substack&utm_content=post
Viruses and nucleotides have never been proven.
What do you see when you use electron microscope? Swiss cheese? RSV virus is imagination and the Pfizer RNA injection which I don’t like is an exercise in futility?
EM has never been a validated method by using reference material as comparison standards. Also you can't use EM like LM. Anyone can make up any story based on what is seen in TEM graphs or about SEM 3D surface shapes. The thing is it is not logical or scientific.
Yes, viruses and nucleotides are mental constructs only.
https://viroliegy.com/
https://criticalcheck.wordpress.com/2021/12/15/dna-discovery-extraction-and-structure-a-critical-review/
So..say it! RNA injections and vaccine injections that our children now get to the tune of at least 75 in their childhood are complete frauds! Therefore, the billions and billions being invested by Gates and the money men into RNA injections have no validity. It is just an affront to humanity for money gathering!
Wow a pharmacist having this little comprehension??? Then again you pushed them, so have a dog in the race. MRNA are genetic alterations not viral mimicers.
Genetics is pseudoscience just like virology is. Nucleotides are not proven.
Another obvious reason for the huge sums spent is just to have a slush fund. See NASA.
NASA and the moon landiing fraud is for the really simple minded that oogle and coo when pandered to.
I see that you put a lot of credence in known liars. How's that working out for you thus far?
Projection much.
Man you've bot in hook line and sinker! I'm surprised you found your way to substack where truth at least has a chance...I imagine you are all in for Ukraine and believe everything that's happened is Russias fault too.
SmithFS
Love that you believe everything the govt tells you while they are royally ripping you off & stealing your lives (& soul) from you thru massive money-laundering & medical hell-care. I wonder how anyone can still believe the lies that our govt routinely tells all of us??
ICYMI Don Rumsfeld informed the US on September 10, 2001 ON CAMERA that over 2.3 trillion was missing from the DoD/ Pentagon budget.
Gee... wonder where ALL that govt money went & how "convenient" that a completely unpredictable"911" event (there were actually ongoing planned military actions/exercises taking place on the same day as 911 related to potential terror attacks - so... how very convenient for our govt's plausible (planned) deniability of actual 911 wrong-doing... cuz it was only a "drill"...) wiped it entirely off the memory bank way back then. And there was much more in the way of disappeared financial "resources" during/after the 911 ff too w/ known puts/shorts on airplane etc stocks & the gigantic WTC insurance fraud losses too... . :/
FYI > Donald Rumsfeld Sept 10 2001: The Pentagon Cannot Account for $2.3 Trillion Dollars Of Taxpayer $$$ - AwakeAndAware
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bTK6YXD73Cvc/
(clip posted 2 years, 3 months ago)
But y'all just keep on a believin' the govt crooks, criminals & insider fraudster lies, ya hear?
cuz "deadly pathogens " ARE ALL MANMADE IN SECRET LABS...read the patents
Patents do not proven existence of something which is patented. Use logic.
"The Lanka paper proves ..."
Beginning any statement in this way immediately invalidates the rest.
That you may not understand why this should hold, or that you might refuse to accept it, it will not attest to the prerogative of your opinions or convictions.
"This is is such a low IQ, low respect and disingenuous ad hominem cop out ."
I cannot find the ad hominem that you speak of, nor any other, that is, besides the obvious ad hominem fallacy that you have yourself committed in that statement.
Yes, that opening statement reveals a lack of understanding of the principles of science and why degenerative paradigms like "terrain theory" are rejected and replaced by superior paradigms like virology. I do wonder how much Pharma and tbe 3 letter agencies pay these terrain theorists to try to make us all look like whack jobs like them.
You seem to not understand that the issue of terrain and susceptibility is rejected due to the financial aspect. Viruses lead to multi-billion dollar drugs that can be patented; Terrain leads to personal responsibility for building health naturally that uses nutrition and natural products like herbs and homeopathy that cannot be patented for control and as big profits.
FYI, even when Pasteur who is credited with the germ theory of disease was dying he fessed up that he was totally wrong and Terrain or Individual susceptibility is the cause of illness. As I read his research books./notes were all fraudulent and his daughter, who took these books, would not release them to the public. Am quite sure there was beaucoup $$$$ involved in keeping them suppressed. Perhaps even death threats which the Pharma industry has used to control people.
Tanya, nobody disputes that pathogens are not the only cause of ill health. Genes and environment have a role. Toxins can play a role. Lifestyle factors can play a role. Personal responsibility is, however, all too often used as an excuse to blame victims. I don't think that is something you would approve of. You are no RWNJ. You are more open minded than a lot of commenters on these stacks on quite a few things and coming from a good place. You are an intelligent person. Read some philosophy of science, Kuhn, Popper, Lakatos. There is a reason why terrain theory has been rejected and virology is the dominant paradigm, and it's not so Big Pharma can make more profits. Big Pharma doesn't need pathogens to make profits. One day virology will be replaced when the anomalies about it mount to such an extent that it can no longer "digest" them or if its "core immutables" are invalidated. Then, it will constitute a "degenerative research program." As happened with the transition from Newtonian to Einsteinian physics, it will be replaced by a "progressive" program that can explain everything it does and more, but more simply and concisely, when one emerges. It won't be replaced by terrain theory. Terrain theory is a degenerative research program and a pseudoscience. No baby was thrown out with the bathwater. It belongs in the dustbin of history. Look into it a bit more and you will see this.
We will disagree on this point. My decades of experience in dealing with health always proves the Terrain theory position. Even with toxins we see great individual differences in how people react and the Terrain theory explains it very well. Your comment about blaming sickness on people is a common one as people don't like being told they are responsible for their own health. However, there is a subtle difference. Blaming the victim keeps the victimization ongoing. Giving people insight into what is causative is empowering. It does take an open mindedness to take in and use this difference. Do think on this.
The money/patent aspect is really major and central. The Medical industry was as contrived as the fossil fuel or manufactured fake food industries are. Very frustrating to me is how people have no problem in seeing this and the nefarious money/power centeredness of other industries but cannot see the same with the medical one. But it is no different. And I did some research into this some years back and it was quite clear that Rockefeller money was used to destroy all naturopathic healing protocols and gain control over the medical schools and the doctors they produced. All training is drug based even to the point of denying illness when they have no drug to sell. Think of Lyme disease that was denied with sufferers accsued of mental instability or other demeaning characterizations--yes, until they came up with a drug treatment and then everyone 'had' Lyme. Same with AIDS/HIV even tho the drugs used, as with Lyme only suppressed symptom or even killed so many. Lots of accessible history on this.
And the level of fraud in medical science is very extreme. Even Marcia Angels, MD who was the editor of the N. Eng Jn Med for 20 yrs, on retirement, admitted that at least 50% of the 'science' printed was fraudulent, or meaningless. Most people find it hard to believe that what goes for science is simply marketing for the drug corporations. Covid alone should demonstrate this.
In my experience which includes some practice, building terrain is the road to healing and health. I often tell people they can pay now or pay later when they complainj that organic food or good supplements or holistic practitioners are too expensive. This takes us to the reality that the public has been bought by the idea of 'medical insurance' which is a way to direct people to the medical industry which ensures ongoing customers who are in a co-dependent state with that industry. Much was written about this during covid when questioning how an entire population could be so sucked into the narative we were fed 24/7. We can have a long talk about this piece of the dynamic of belief systems and how they are created and manipulated.
33 years as a clinician here over 45 studying the cause of health
The Rockefeller cartel published the Flexnor Report in 1910 to destroy competing health care models. It ushed in Scientism and all kinds of superficially convincing blather fests like Awake has bought into.
Oddly and out of character Meryl went on offensive ( or some poser that hijacked her sub) promoting virus hui. I seriously doubt it is her as "she" said something stupid to the effect that peeps could gander down a microscope and see for themself. Even the virus literate peeps get that it would take an electron microscope (the one few have ever heard of much less seen) to see the "evidence" that in best case scenario is a strand of DNA, one that is shared by thousands or organism.
Yes there was a great documentary put out called "How Big oil conquered the world" that shows the corruption and greed of the Rockefellers.
Great comment. Re "Covid alone should demonstrate this."
Indeed so, this was the whole point of Covid to prove once and for all that vaccines, viruses and a host of other matters are gross fraud.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. We will disagree on the existence v non-existence of virusess and their role in the causation and prevention or amelioration of ill-health (e.g., evidence shows that SARS-CoV-2 is BOTH oncogenic and oncolytic). Nonetheless, I agree with much of what you have articulated. I also agree with Jill's comments with regard to victim blaming. Many diseases in the West are caused by lifestyle factors. My position is essentially that of Walter M Chesnut who co-published with the late Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier, who is in effect tge devil to many terrain theorists. Chesnut predicted the long term persistence of SARS-CoV-2 in the heart and described the mechanism of heart failure 10 months ago, long before confirmation of his hypothesis by Japanese scientists.
You're right, "personal responsibility" has a hard time taking control of things like fluoridation of public water supplies, GMO substances & artificial growth hormones into food supplies, laws/regulations making it more difficult for non-rich individuals to access raw milk, & exposure to chemtrails & microwave/cell phone towers. But IMHO there's no doubt that those are all allowed because SOMEONE makes big money off of them, one way or another. And since 90% of the country's wealth is owned by 2% of the population, they're probably the same ppl who benefit from owning the for-profit medical-industrial cartel, which profits from healthy ppl only insofar as it can scare them into getting vaccines which will probably, sooner or later, make them sick.
Terrain theory is psuedoscience? Please explain what evidence brought you to this conclusion.
Re "Personal responsibility is, however, all too often used as an excuse to blame victims."
This is true but it works both ways. Big pharma and more particularly the individuals concerned use 'corporations' to try and avoid personal responsibilities.
Big pharma requires germ theory to promote fear of rapidly mutating viruses ('we're all going to die!') so that it can drive the gullible into its arms. Then it steals their health and wealth.
As to germ/virology theory one knows this is suspect when Wikipedia calls Terrain theory 'Germ theory denialism'.
You are civil in your reply. Though you are also woefully remiss in your reasoning. If you still believe in "virus" and Einstein physics you are decades in arears...
You sound like you are grooming Tanya... :/
And you also sound like you need to unlearn AND relearn. I was there. Self awareness and honesty is key or else you stay stuck on your truck.
Best of luck.
I don't have personal experience of grooming anyone or attempting to do so yulia I'll leave it to groomers like you who speak from experience of carrying out grooming to enlighten me and others on what things that are not grooming "sound like" grooming to groomers like you.
Also, sorry to spoil your fantasies but I've encountered Tanya before and it was obvious from the get go that she's a mature adult so if you were hoping she's a minor you can prey on then you are fresh out of luck.
I am sorry but you are not awake! If you do not know what a fraud virology is then I have some evidence for proof of the fraud as well as the truth of terrain therapy, the fallacy of germ theory. It is still referred to as a theory, because it has never been proven. Theoretic physics is called theoretic for a reason! Now if you will take the time to go to odysee, and look up @spacebusters a farewell to virology, a two-part video that shows scientifically the fraud od virology. If you believe in the scientific method and find that no scientific method is used to find this Unicorn called virus, then it will be made plain to you that no such thing exists. It is as credible as alchemy, flat earth, Unicorn Ology, fairy's, big foot, snow white, name your fantasy. Virology belongs in this mythical land. Get back to me after you see the evidence and then we can debate its merits, Jack. RED PILLED HUMAN
see: The Truth About the Germ Theory. @ Green Med info! " What would you think if a reputable molecular biologist claimed there is no measles virus? German scientist Dr. Stefan Lanka made such a claim and said he would award 100,000 Euros to any scientist who would successfully prove otherwise."!
A lot of good [honest] info at Sayer Ji,s website! Check it out!
Proving that viruses don’t exist is like trying to prove a negative. It would be necessary to show that those conditions otherwise said to be caused by a virus actually arise from something else. That the presence of, or exposure to a virus is not necessary.
Jack WIlliams - Thnx for this info & FYI Posting the links here for easy access.
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> Part 1 - Aug 26, 2023
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Part one of a three part series. "A Farewell to Virology" is a 29,000 word essay debunking virus theory and virology, written by Dr Mark Bailey, MBChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc. It has yet to be contested and the purpose of this film is to explain why.
This film version walks the layperson through the paper and scientific evidence in an easy, simple and understandable way, so that they may better understand and be able to easily explain to others the great hoax of the last few centuries and certainly last three years, that fictional particles called "viruses" exist, cause illness and are reasons to lock down and destroy societies and economies and cause lifelong disease and misery through needless and useless vaccination programs. They don't.
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Part TWO of a three part series. "A Farewell to Virology" is a 29,000 word essay debunking virus theory and virology, written by Dr Mark Bailey, MBChB, PGDipMSM, MHealSc. It has yet to be contested and the purpose of this film is to explain why.
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Perhaps you could watch this series Dr Nass & look forward to your comments.
most of what you suggest is true, and one of the assertion comparisons is patently false... That is another discussion.
There is simply no interest in curing any disease "caused by" a virus. A cure that is produced by addressing the viral cause is an essential step to proving the viral cause. Once a cure technique has been demonstrated, we can explore the cause and effect process.
However, nobody is seriously interested in curing most viral diseases. Why not? There are more profits in prevention. Disease preventatives can be sold to anyone before, during, even after the disease. Cures require the disease to be present and the diagnosis to be correct. The market for cures of viral diseases is very limited - more so if there is no actual viral cause. Perhaps the best example of this is polio - which is claimed to be caused by a virus. The problem is that many cases of polio were cured by addressing non-viral causes. What I believe? 1. Viral diseases exist. Therefore viruses exist. 2. Signs and symptoms of viral diseases can be very similar to poisonings - poisoning diseases. Curing a poison disease (that is seen as a viral disease) is forbidden, because it upsets the medical theory. Then it gets more complicated. The SARS-COV-2 virus is claimed to cause signs and symptoms of disease by poisoning us with toxic spike proteins. The virus quickly burns out the fuel, the succeptible cells, but if there are many it generates toxin proteins that overwhelm the patients resources for clearing them. But... If clearing toxic proteins is the cure for COVID, then the poison is the cure cause, not the virus.
If virology isn't pseudoscience, how come the total failure of the supposed remedies?
What happens when Ivermectin cures COVID? Nothing. Cured is not defined for COVID, and not defined for Ivermectin either. Even when the Nobel Prize was awarded for Ivermectin, the word cure was nowhere to be seen.
has nothing to do with a paradigm, it is fraudulent for the simple minded
Very odd that the good doc appears to not comprehent relative size which is basic science. My strong suspicion is that you also have no clue. She (or some poser) actually said something to the effect of verifying "virus" by looking under microscope.
That statement is so patently ridiculous that a high school student versed in science would see the gross error.
Probably because low IQ Germ THEORY idiots like you have as much credence as Tooth Fairyologists
Let's be nice:))) We need Dr. Nass to understand us - not hate us.
Dr. Nass's work is AMAZING on every other level. Her professional sacrifice(s) are massive. She is a warrior for us - no matter what.
I think the situation here is like the one I had personally grasping geoengineering chemtrailing in 2011. It took me THREE YEARS until 2014 - to really own up and look into it. I just couldn't accept that the US government (CIA/Intel community initially and US Military now)... would actually spray us with toxic substances and diseases. I had an immense emotional block on that very concept. I guess at that point, I just couldn't take another revelation. Period.
There are other high profile folks who are relatively new to the entire fight back, who are struggling with various aspects of what is happening to us.
Let's get ourselves back to figuring out how to deal with the criminal cabal that is killing us. We're 20,000,000 dead globally from the C19 injections - and two billion injured. That's enough and most of our politicians are still in dreamland. We have to turn this mess around in 2024 - or we're going down.
This was beautiful! Could not encapsulate this better and my sentiments and experiences, over and over! Subscribed, look forward to your material, thank you!
Por nada:)))))) I thank you back!! You are subscribed to over 45 fellow substacks. I'm drowning a bit with input from 7 substacks and another 21 direct content providers:)))))) Hat tip to you for your bravery and perseverance!!
Malone just exposed a few of them.
Good old Bob from the controlled opposition murderers brigade
I posted this, below, on another stack recently. It's part tongue-in-cheek. The real targets, like Chelseabern below, miss the irony. It's not Malone, for the most part anyway, who is the whack job:
Malone has lately been sounding like a total whack job, in my humble lay opinion. He's talking of his rivals being CIA related and about psyops and controlled opposition. This is the sort of thing you might expect from brain damaged participants with an alcohol induced organic psychosis at an AA meeting. However, Malone is antivaxx and research shows that, some exceptions notwithstanding, the antivaxx movement or MFM is full of whack jobs who have a trait of "delusion proneness." Perhaps Malone had this trait (see article at the first link below for a description) then he got mRNA double jabbed. Now, in my humble lay opinion, he comes across like someone who has querulous paranoia or litigious paranoia. Could this be vaccine-induced psychosis? None of us has any proof that Malone didn't take the jabs. Perhaps Malone always had antivaxx or delusion proneness traits and then the vaxx sent him mad. Perhaps due to his delusion proneness, the form the madness has taken is querulous or litigious paranoia. Has Malone sued people for defamation previously, i.e., pre jabs? I've not heard that he has done so. If Malone did not suffer from litigious paranoia before the jabs, why does he appear to suffer from it only now after reportedly taking the jabs?
COVID-19 conspiracy ideation is associated with the delusion proneness trait and resistance to update of beliefs
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-14071-7
Vaccine-Induced Psychosis as an Etiology to Consider in the Age of COVID-19
https://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/vaccine-induced-psychosis-etiology-consider-age-covid-19/
I have very little understanding of science in the truest word, but being a critical thinker, and seeing with my own eyes the bullshit spread like it was coming out of piece of farm equipment, made me want to listen to more than the govt and Fauci. It's not hard.
not sure what that paper is suggesting, but that is not even the issue. An excellent article on propaganda was published this morning suggesting 50 ways that are commonly used.
You have identified several
The point I was actually trying to make was it was unbecoming of
Dr. Meryl - a backhanded compliment was more what I meant to convey then actually accuse her of being what you quoted if that makes a difference and I am being sincere
I sense your sincerity and I appreciate your endeavor to redress.
I also sensed Dr Nass'es exasperation at what I can only clumsily describe as the muddying of the waters by the "viruses aren't real" arguments, if it isn't indeed really an operation to black-wash the backlash against the mRNA injectables.
(black-wash the backlash.... Hm. I think that'll be what I'll name my next Death Metal recording... )
Thanks for the benefit and getting me to better express myself.
As for it being some sort of tojan horse I don’t see it personally.
It’s not just mRNA jabs at stake with no virus , it’s all.
Can you imagine how pissed the injured or say multi decade flux vax recipients would be to find out the pathogen they thought they were protecting themselves, loved ones etc from ... was a product of the most expensive and extensive and long lived fraud and make believe campaign in human history
The level of pissed with vaccine injured children’s parents find out there was no reward and all risk ?
Maybe I’m wrong but while a harder initial sell, this level of fraud might hopefully slap everyone awake and out of the “oh just get over it vaxholm syndrome so many are in .
If it's any help at all, I have almost completely rejected all vaccination and the justification for it. I say almost because one shouldn't hold any particular view with dogmatic certainty, especially when one hasn't investigated the matter exhaustively, but the fact remains that vaccination is promoted as the solution for what seem to be engineered and trumped-up problems. I'm not in any way sufficiently, nor even minimally informed enough to pass judgement, but there is ample evidence of better health outcomes for people who have not ever received any vaccines. And besides, I simply cannot look past the fact that for almost the entire 3-4 million years of human existence (if taken from the Australopithecene ancestor), we seem to have done pretty well even without the intrusion of petrochemical pharmaceutical medicine and its ham-fisted attempts to artificially modulate immunity, and so I'm more than a little inclined to believe we don't need it - and would, more than likely, be better off without it.
Yeah no vax is key amen viruses or not
And I guess we’re all different but this is distilled water to me .
If viruses are a hoax then pandemics, the treaty, all countermeasures etc all go away it’s the area of the hydra that if exposed can finally kill the damned beast for good
Viruses are real! DBPC science studies are real! But trying to correlate all that to DBPC science free snake oil sales pitch, from our 5 billion in "FRAUD" fines/ Big Pharmas, whos iatrogenic "medicine" has killed 40,000,000 in just the last 50 years, is a lesion in Godless psychosis!
Are you saying tiny parasitic creatures that use RNA (instead of DNA) to replicate cannot exist?
so that is somehow evidence, tiny parasitic creatures? Gotta do much better pal
When are you NO-VIRUS GRIFTERS going to grow a pair and volunteer to go to an Ebola infected African region? Prove your beliefs and treat & supply care to Ebola victims, but unlike any of the other staff, no gloves, no moon suit. Should be easy, it is largely a virus that transmits through bodily fluids, so it should be no problem. Just think what a heroic deed. You'll impress the hell out of all those medical personal. Show them how to do it.
All these Africans who run for their lives when they see an Ebola infected person wandering the streets. All for Nada. Just show them the truth. "There is no virus folks, relax, don't worry. I'll grab this Ebola infected person, give her a kiss & a hug, tell her she's fine, she just needs supplements, fresh water, fresh air. Cured." That will save $billions in unnecessary expenditure on Ebola/Marburg class epidemics.
Maybe a simpler solution is for Meryl, Malone, Kirsch and the others who keep claiming that viruses are real, actually SIT DOWN with Kaufman, Cowan and Baileys for an indepth discussion on the subject. Do it on camera. Stop avoiding direct discussions. The no virus people are begging them and they are refusing. So who needs to go to Africa?
The fact that they refuse to do so and even go so far as to ban me from commenting on his substack because I asked the question there and in an email directly to Kirsch, then you might have an argument.
But you don't. Licking the doorknob is not proving viruses exist, unless you are a mental lightweight.
Thanks for this! I have to say that the Baileys have discussed it with Dell Big tree as well as McCullagh, and they both were so evasive. Big tree deflected by saying that it would confuse the work they are doing, and McCullagh stated that he has a photo of a virus but has not seen fit this show this Unicorn to this day. None of the health freedom fighters has made any statement about the virus fraud. I was listening to the covid summit in Florida, and they were condemning the jabs. They said how dangerous this vaccine was, and then the statement that shattered their credibility was made and should not have been because I would never have questioned them. One of them stated that all the other vaccines were perfectly safe and effective with only one in a million adverse effects. I couldn't believe what I had just heard. It was a blatant lie. This is when I started to look closer and then found Dr. Bailey, then everything changed. Jack
It is so obvious that these people are hiding and setting up strawmen arguments to avoid what you and I see as viable debate subjects. This, to me, means that they know they are full of it ... or ... they are too ignorant to care ... or ... they are so far brainwashed that they cannot see that their avoidance at debate totally undermines their entire argument.
Look how easy it is for Meryl to throw out the strawman while simultaneously avoiding the direct communication with them.
Is she lying? What is she and the others afraid of? Are they afraid to take these people to task for their "idiocy" or are they afraid that they know they can't win the argument?
They are safeguarding the superstructure of virology. These front people have been used to deflect from the big lie and the big money involved in virology. This is what the power structure does, they give us seemingly brave heroes to do battle with the evil ones, and we drink the kolaid every time. Just think what a great strategy this is! They inundate us with things and facts that no one will be accountable for, as is usually the case, but then virology stays in place, get it? I was fooled again until the light came on in a false statement made by one of them at the Florida covid summit. He stated that this vaccine was deadly, and then followed up by saying a blatant lie. He said all the other vaccines were safe and effective, with only one in a million adverse effects! WTF this is when I started to look deeper into the front and found the Baileys, real truthtellers, and now I whomp the asses of the defenders of the Unicorn. Thanks for this post, Jack!
I wanted to let everybody know about the website, LewRockwell.com, an article by Jim Quinn, Corruption, Chaos, conflict- fourth turning erupts! If you are not familiar with this site, please look at this article. It will shock you but not surprise you, Jack.
It is tiring to hear people deny that there are images of viruses (or exosomes, or whatever they are or you wish to call them). Just do a quick search online (not ever using Google, if you are a decent human being). Just type words like "virus image electron microscope" and see what comes up. Maybe you will actually see the "unicorn" that supposedly does not exist. It takes just seconds to do that.
Now, try to prove that the image you found causes disease (or anything else)
Bingo, Jill.
People defending the concept & so-called printed pix of a virus or viruses seem unwilling to admit that anyone can claim a photo is an image of ANYTHING, Are they just unaware of scientific FRAUD, CGI images, photo substitutions or DEEP FAKES?? Gullible much?? Yeah, sure, this is a photo of your great-great-gran-ma. For reals. hahahaha But can you prove that is really my granma thru authentication now? Because just saying something is something is not definitive proof.
They do it all the time. Examples:
https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/yet-another-final-respectful-response:
"....Koch’s Postulates
Koch developed rules to follow by which one can determine if a pathogen is responsible for a disease. The reader should be aware these were published in 1884; Koch updated them to relax the first postulate when he discovered asymptomatic transmission. Also, Koch’s postulates fail to apply to typhoid fever, diphtheria, leprosy, relapsing fever, and Asiatic cholera specifically because it is difficult to create ‘the disease anew’ in animals upon infection (Ref).
Koch’s postulates were addressed head-on for the SARS virus in 2003. See
Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus.
As originally written, Koch’s four criteria were:
(1) The microorganism must be found in diseased but not healthy individuals;
We know that asymptomatic COVID-19 infection can occur. Koch himself had to modify his postulates after he discovered asymptomatic infections could occur.
(2) The microorganism must be cultured from the diseased individual;
SARS-CoV-2 has, in fact, been cultured. It’s a matter of routine:.."
If my rebuttal reappears I will Finnish telling you what my reply was. It just disappeared like a puff of smoke. Jack.
Bullshit. It is your grifter buddies who are evading debate:
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/settling-the-virus-debate-challenge:
"...here are the details:
I requested a debate with Christine’s team, but Christine wrote she was too busy to reply at the time. Now she wrote to me that she won’t debate me.
Richard Fleming requested a debate with them as well and they wouldn’t debate him either.
I asked Christine, “OK, so if it isn’t a virus, explain to me what my wife caught from her golfing friend who had COVID, and what I caught from my wife. If it wasn’t the COVID virus, then what the heck was it? The COVID tests were positive for all of us after we got symptoms.” Every email, Christine avoided answering my question. So I had to ask several times! Finally, she wrote the following: “Steve, I sent you the challenge and now you insist on diverting the conversation to your wife and asking what covid is and what people (who I have zero direct knowledge of) allegedly caught. We all know what covid is claimed to be and what people think they "caught".” So she was being evasive and her answer to my simple question is evasive once again! This is important. They cannot answer this simple question. It is their Achilles heel. They like to claim that the virus doesn’t exist, but they cannot explain what COVID is if it isn’t a virus, nor do they have a set of tests to PROVE that THEIR theory of what it actually is is correct. Watch this video at 1:47:19. Why aren’t THEY spending the money to prove THEIR theory? Gotta wonder about that one. The point is this: If they cannot PROVE their alternative hypothesis then why should the demand proof of the current hypothesis? I’ve emailed Tom Cowan directly and he said he didn’t know what I had. I got “it” from my wife for sure.
It’s not cheap to do the tests they are requesting and they won’t pay the costs. They claim they have some pledges available of $500K, but pledges are not the same as cash on hand (I’m an expert on that one). They basically insist that rich people like me should spend our money to prove their hypothesis.
If they have an alternate hypothesis on what is causing people to all come down with a respiratory infection that is so severe they have to go to a hospital, I’m all ears. But they have none. I suspect their purpose is to distract us from the main vaccine narrative. If they want to fund the research they want, we are happy to do it.
This is not my field of expertise at all. I rely on other people around me who I trust. These people are all red-pilled with respect to the vaccine. It is possible that they are blue pilled with respect to the virus, but generally red-pilled people are red-pilled in many areas. None of them found the hypothesis compelling.
There is a video of Purnima Wagh (full video, highlights) who says she had $1.5M to do the isolation work and they found nothing. They said in the video that the CDC wouldn’t send them a sample. This is very interesting. But you can buy SARS-CoV-2 samples commercially from a number of commercial suppliers including ATCC. Sin Lee bought his reference from Boca Biolistics Reference Laboratory, Pompano Beach, FL. The samples cost under $2K. Why didn’t they do that? My colleagues (such as Sabine Hazan’s lab) have bought these samples and they matched the gene sequences from their infected patients. If the virus doesn’t exist, how do they explain that? And how can you explain Sin Lee’s papers (see below)? If the virus doesn’t exist, then how do you explain his results? We’d be DELIGHTED to debate Purnima Wagh. I’ve emailed her (at cchmc.org) and have not heard back.
Their challenge to prove there is a virus was accepted by Dr. Kevin W. McCairn, who created a web page accepting the challenge and asking them to put up the money to pay for the tests they wanted. Now, for some odd reason, they do not accept the offer that they asked for.
When McCairn pointed out that the challenge was accepted and the originators then didn’t reply, Christine ostensibly threatened McCairn with legal action. You really can’t make this stuff up. Here’s the actual email exchange with McCairn’s acceptance and also a debate offer from Dr. Fleming.
Now of course, they will then tell their followers that McCairn, Fleming, and I are all bad people and they don’t want to waste their time with us..."
You somehow omitted to mention Christine Massey's answer to Kirsch's fabrications. It is here: https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/why-i-now-refuse-to-debate-steve-kirsch-or-richard-fleming-or-kevin-mccairn/
You are a thug. But you are quite helpful. Many people, including me, have come to realize the fraud of virology after noting the abusiveness of its defenders, drawing the tentative conclusion that the abuse is a substitute for argument, and finding that conclusion confirmed upon reading the original virology papers. So, keep it up.
I must say "You are a thug. But you are quite helpful." is a wonderful line. I said something in not unsimilar vein to 'frankly' in the comments who seems to be more thuggish than anything.
I think that I recognize that username (frankly), and not in a good way. It is amazing how thuggish the defenders are. Their responses are mostly, "Shut up, ignorant peasant! And eat our dogma now!"
There are some longer-winded viroliegy bulldogs, like Jeremy (sp?) Hammond (who has his own website), who make a pretense of argument. But discussions with him in his articles' comment section quickly devolve into his saying, "As a show of good faith, first agree that I'm right. Then we can discuss how right I am." When you refuse the offer, he bans you.
Waynebegood is Kirsch's Admin. He wrote that Ron Unz once wrote something antisemitic, so I must also be antisemtic. He then banned me and deleted my comments.
Unz is jewish.
WaynebeGood and Kirsch are covering up the lie. NOT an honest, open debate at all. Simply lying and covering it up.
Nice total Ad Hominem smear job special. Something the CIA does always. Makes you look more like a CIA sockpuppet with every comment.
Ron Unz has been very emphatic that there is a bioengineered Covid bioweapon that was deliberately released in Iran to kill and injure their senior leadership as well as in other areas. Woops.
You are full of malarkey. Steve Kirsch's admin definitely banned my comments exactly the way I said. I have screen shots and all the email notifications that prove it.
I understand that you don't like when your heroes are pointed out to be less than stellar and truthful.
Maybe you should question them on those issues instead of kneejerk reacting with your emotions.
Man are you off the base of reality! First of all, Africa has been the testing ground for every medical poison ever to come to market. They did not nor do not need vaccines, it is clean water and healthy food that cures, but no one spends money on the real problem, because they are in it for the money and not to cure the problem. You mention growing a pair! Souds like my old drill instructor, are you in the military now? They taught me to not think at all, do not question. This is who you sound like to me. You obviously have not done any research on the subject you claim to know so much about. The thing that cured Americans of the illnesses that were plaguing us for so long, was exactly what the African people need but do not get. They are used as Guina pigs for big pharma. The only thing they get is jabbed, but no clean water or healthy food. If the billions spent on drugs were instead out into wells and food, it would make the same difference it did here, or did you not know this fact? As far as virology being a fraud, it is, and the proof is there for the seeing, and if you did any real research, you would know these facts now. Just slinging shit does not a proof make! A farewell to virology, two-part video will convince you, and if not then well??????????????????
Nice evasion. If what you said is true, you should have zero difficulty getting some of your enthusiasts to do exactly what I said, videotape everything and prove that Ebola is all BS. Medical students, doctors & nurses, altruistic individuals volunteer all the time to risk their lives treating poor Africans during Ebola epidemics. You can't find ANY altruistic individuals in your community? Prove your faith. I dare you.
Exactly!
See anti-contagionist Florence Nightingale.
Ebola? Oh boy, the trail ahead of you is long and you barely started to contemplate to take it. I d say take it, you have much to learn.
You saying I have much to learn means nothing because you know nothing. Anything I learned would be more than you know so that's worthless.
You wish, you egomaniac wanker :D but the truth is you don’t know what I know or don’t.
Well if I didn't, I sure do now, your comment definitely puts you at the Grade six level, no higher.
Talk about grade six. You don't even seem to know what you know; your comments are either malarkey or some copy pasts from here and there.
I volunteer to do it, if you guarantee I will not be poisoned through other means (mustard gas, cyanide, whatever)
Deal?
Like you and many others who have taken the time to comment, I am surprised and disappointed by this post by Meryl. Yet, like all of us, we're all waking up to "the truth" and the more we embody it, the more we will see. Some stories or beliefs are harder to let go of than others and this is where the real work begins.
Exactly! and all the while she worships shill Malone. :((
Abdolutely! I am
Shocked at this from a woman I have respected through this madness. I can no longer subscribe
Because she is rational and has integrity and scientific rigor and is not a terrainTARD you are going to unsubscribe? It's not her fault that your feelings are not facts and that facts don't care about your feelings.
Scientific rigor. I thought so until this ridiculous, literally, piece. I would love to see her debate Dr Tom Cowan, Dr Andrew Kaufmann, Drs Marc and Sam Bailley.. but she wont
I will--once they tell me what causes warts, shingles, herpes etc. I am waiting. So far none of the 423 comments have made a stab at answering this simple question.
Sam Bailey has separate videos on all these specific topics on her website. Engage with them and dispute what she and Mark say if you wish, but don't be so flip and ignorant. It is unworthy of you.
Very sad actually. I really thought more of this lady.
Aren't you able to explain it, if this is your belief?
What causes synchronised menstrual cycles? What causes yawn contagion?
I responded to this below. Dr. Cowan said he treated herpes with collagen and vitamin C and it never returned. Much of the shingles today is the fallout from the varicella (chicken pox) vaccine and Dr. Gary Goldman did trials for the CDC at Antelope Valley before the varicella vaccine was released and was widespread proving that the shingles epidemic was going to follow the introduction of the varicella vaccine. The CDC suppressed his trials till the vaccine was entrenched.
Dr. Goldman no longer works for the CDC
"I will--once they tell me what causes warts, shingles, herpes etc. I am waiting. So far none of the 423 comments have made a stab at answering this simple question."
Do you understand that the burden of proof (logic) is not on anyone who does not make a positive claim about them, but it is on those who make positive claims about them?
So far no one has proven existence of any alleged biological virus.
No one has identified them.
No one has observed all vital occurring processes with them in real time.
No one has experimented on them in a form of independent variables.
But if you want to speculate about what is a cause of specific symptoms, we can do it. However a speculation is not a logical proof.
What is your inferior or superior specific explanation for warts, shingles, herpes etc?
Very true. I remain 100% open minded and admit I know little if either “side.” I’m reading literally every comment for some explanation, but so far no one has answered this simple question. Instead, it’s a lot of name calling and “go read Bailey.” Where’s any semblance of a rational explanation.
Well.. why dont you go read/watch Bailley? It is a start snd looks like you need a wee hand to start here. No name calling thats for sure. 👍
I also suggest you read Firstenberg’s The Invisible Rainbow, and Dawn Lester and David Parker’s What Really Makes You Ill? ASAP.
Great point, these are my questions as they certainly seem communicable!
My son lived with measles post MMRV for over a year, still inflamed lung alveoli and elevated eosinophil and basophil levels 3 years on, a simple cough extends for months on end 😞. He had every skin malady known to man during that time. Thankfully, myself and my two daughters were able to avoid all that his weakened immune state acquired. Trying to avoid any and everything his body expressed, hand and foot, pink eye, itchy body breakouts, all types or rare and difficult to pronounce fungal rashes, and thankfully there were no shared infections. I did not isolate or avoid my at the time 5 year old son as was medically advised, that’s crazy, give me a triple dose of cancer for another hug, gtfo! Which led my readings into the work of the Bailey’s, Proton Magic, Cowan and Kauffman.
I understand the NYS DOH infection control studies and Massey’s FOIs as cited, and certainly feel there was nothing novel about CoV save for extra special gentoxicity of the fauxsine ingredients, but where I’m stuck with their assertion is something like chicken pox, which got nearly every one of my 8 siblings as a youth, the youngest ones with a later round. If it was bacterial, wouldn’t that be much easier to isolate? Something was shared through the house the adults had developed prior immunity to, and the older kids with the latter round.
Certainly the threat of boogeymen viruses is exploited to no end for financial and totalitarian gains, but what could be shared between children in the case of herpes simplex if not an infectious agent or something biotic?
Cowan suggests that "measles" & the other routine diseases of childhood may be more like maturation processes, the seeming contagion being some kind of resonance--read THE CONTAGION MYTH, in which these are discussed directly over several pages which would be awkward to copy-and-paste here, & besides the rest of the book is all supporting, indirect discussion of the same.
It’s also been found that having natural measles protects a child from heart disease and some forms of cancer later in life. It’s thought that measles, chicken pox and other childhood diseases are detoxing from a developmental stage going into the next stage, e.g. going from having ten teeth to 32 teeth.
What is at work here is not so much the argument virus vs no virus. See how riled up we are all getting? One could make a defensible argument, should one want to; but the response is rather to get upset about the opposite argument - and to rail against those holding the other position. That’s why this is a distraction. The tone being inspired, even here, is similar to the vitriol unleashed on those questioning the vaccine. I still hold it’s not so much whether viruses exist or not; it’s that their role is different than we thought. And is not the trend against which we ought all be united, division and hatred? Is not our shared mission the rebirth of compassion and selflessness, of open debate and pursuit of the truth?
I love this comment
There is no distraction. This is a war with usurpers-parasites. Virology is one of their tools they use to control the masses. That is why it should be destroyed as there is no proof of any biological virus.
There are NO identified viruses & this has been proven definitively.
If you don't know this, or see this as critically important, or care about this, then you are simply part of the control problem used against us.
Viruses are NOT a distraction, nor is the argument for or against a distraction, but the USE of viruses to fear-monger all of us & to shut down the world whenever fake pandemics are rolled out is the main crux of our medical freedom problem as viruses & so-called pandemics are a "convenient" excuse for the PTB to rig a scam-demic & tell us we must be jabbed w/deadly toxins whenever they decree.
The proof that viruses do not exist & so aren't contagious disease-carriers transmitting dangerous pathogens is key to our survival, John. Otherwise we are all just pincushions for their latest toxic jabs/drugs.
Hi Meryl, please tell me when team no virus answer the simple question and tell you the cause (or more likely causes) of cell proliferation on various body parts, inflammation, rashes on the trunk, headaches and generally feeling unwell in highly complex emotional beings with many interacting homeostatic systems; what kind of evidence you will accept as proof? How will it compare to the evidence you have accepted as proof that entities termed viruses, invisible to the naked eye (and yes i have looked down electron microscopes, if you think it's easy to interpret what you see- you're mad) are the cause of these symptoms?
Please, tell me when you find at least one proof of biological viruses.
Also no one has to answer any question to ask for a proof of viruses.
Sit down on video with them to debate this. They go into detail about the subject. What are you afraid of? I mean, you are brave enough to write this screed. Going on video with them should be a piece of cake for you. And, Sam is easy on the eyes.
It seems that this topic of the "existence" of microorganisms, which cause disease, strikes at some differences in cognition, which are probably fundamental in nature, reflecting different archetypal ways in which humans "understand reality".
I try to explain that all of our concepts are somewhat wrong and somewhat simpler than "reality", but that the better ones are very useful in navigating the difficulties of mortal existence. The "Germ Theory of Disease" is such an archetypal concept; very useful in reducing deaths from surgery and childbirth, and treating strep throat.
The Virology sub-section of this germ theory of disease worked very well in treating people with COVID by use of repurposed antiviral combinations including zinc and vitamin-D, and either HCQ + azithromycin or ivermectin + doxycycline. My patients almost all felt better the next morning, as did I when I caught delta-COVID 2 years ago.
Come now Meryl, that is a foolish comment. There is no one answer and it is not a simple question.
Those viruses are specific to the body experiencing the problem. Take measles. Children are sent to school en mass, and experience separation anxiety, which affect the nerve endings. This has been proved in German New Medicine. The Hebrews in Israel use it, but they dropped the word 'German' for obvious political reasons.
Nurses must be versed in it.
The gist is the soul experiences a problem that it can't solve. The body reacts after the solution is presented. The healing phase results in the physical manifestation of the issue, and that is what we call a virus. They can't spread from person to person, only hysteria and fear can.
Could it be that it's a way through which the human body expresses itself by coming in contact with a chemical like a pesticide or anything else of that nature?
Check out her website, Dr Nass. FYI for example re: "shingles" >
> Drs Bailey Q&A - 24 December 2022 -
https://drsambailey.com/members-area/qa/drs-bailey-qa-24-december-2022/
In this episode we address the following:
- Shingles - what causes it and why it happens
- Role of fear in illness
- Whether the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system can become fixedly unbalanced
- Pleomorphism
- The harm of RNA in jabs vs RNA particles a.k.a 'viruses'
- Interview with Prof. Denis Rancourt
- The research to determine "virus transmission"
- The value of washing hands
- Vitamin D3 Toxicity
- HPV vaccines & DVT
- Donation of whole blood to help with adverse jab reactions
> This is a video for paid members only.
> Join here.
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Bonus:
> Adult onset shingles/herpes zoster probs see > chickenpox vaccines
p.s. And all the recommended "shingles vaxx" now continue the problems
> See: Epidemiology analyst: Childhood chickenpox vaccines INCREASED adult shingles cases by 100% - March 09, 2023 -
https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-03-09-analyst-chickenpox-vaccines-increased-adults-shingles-cases.html
Excerpt > "Dr. Gary Goldman initially called attention to these findings during the inaugural meeting of Physicians for Informed Consent (PIC) back in 2017. He described how the country's chickenpox vaccination program altered the epidemiology of shingles, alongside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) manipulation of data to conceal the unwanted outcomes that occurred."
"Goldman explained that before the universal chickenpox or varicella vaccine was introduced in the U.S. in 1996, 95 percent of adults had experienced natural chickenpox when they were children and developed lifelong immunity. Subsequent exposures to natural chickenpox prevented or postponed shingles."
"Adults started developing painful, blistery rashes when the vaccination drives started. Exposure to the varicella-zoster virus (VZV) resulted in a rash, which is commonly considered chickenpox. To battle the increase in shingles cases, the Zostavax injection was rolled out."
"We had 300 surveillance units – daycare centers, schools, physicians, clinics, hospitals – reporting to us … this community of 300,000 would report cases of chickenpox to us. So really, we were going to produce perhaps some of the best data ever collected in history of this disease of varicella," Goldman said at the time. (Related: Vaccinating against chickenpox often causes shingles, even in children.)"
continues at the link...
FYI My own mother suffered enormously from shingles the last decade of her life due to the recommended adult "shingles" vaxx. Before that she was fine as her normal childhood chickenpox outbreak had given her good immunity & she had never had shingles since she hadn't taken a childhood chickenpox vaccine. Neither did I or my siblings or my friends ever have shingles either as we all had chickenpox. normally & NOT the synthetic & dangerous childhood chickenpox vaxx.
After taking the adult shingles vaxx, she had terrible, very painful shingles outbreaks over the last decade of her life which her own doctor told her required another annual shingles shot. Talk about incompetence/stupidity. I convinced her not to ever have a shingles shot again for logical reasons. Twice bitten, twice shy. Fool me once, then. save me from hell-care, right??
Am sure that could be discussed in a debate with them. I would pay to see that debate
Terraintard 😂
you are not alone in being stunned, but the medical cartel has long long arms
https://rumble.com/vk4doh-expunerea-final-a-virologiei.html
The final exposition of virology
2 years ago
Friends, in this video I will tell you about an incredible historical event. Thanks to microbiologist Stefan Lankа, we now have a final, official refutation of virology.
Stefan Lanka performed control experiments that completely refuted the methods that virologists use to prove the existence of viruses.
I will bring you to the fore, give you the necessary context, and explain the results of these experiments so that you can realize their full significance.
Please share this video so that as many people as possible can learn about it.
Video author: Ekaterina Sugak, naturopath and researcher.
Links to the articles mentioned⬇️
1. Propagation in Tissue Cultures of Cytopathogenic Agents from Patients with Measles - 1954.
https://pubmedinfo.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/propagation-in-tissue-cultures-of-cytopathogenic-agents-from-patients-with-measles.pdf
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2. Measles Virus: A Summary of Experiments Concerned with Isolation, Properties, and Behavior - 1957. https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.47.3.275
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3. The Role of Extracellular Vesicles as Allies of HIV, HCV and SARS Viruses
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7291340/
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4. DR. STEFAN LANKA: CPE - EXPERIMENT CONTROL - (21ST APRIL 2021) https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/cpe-english:f
Video in english/japanesse
https://t.me/katesugakofficial/134
What is your take about the idea that planet earth is flat?
Edited - I didn't express myself correctly here. What is your take about the idea that planet earth could be flat? I am not a flat earth believer.
The viruses caused it.
It’s not a topic of interest I don’t have a take on “flat earth “ and your attempt to put the two topics on par is ridiculous that’s all
I am asking you because you seem to be very intelligent and inform person who knows a lot.
I, personally, will start to take an interest in that when the W.H.O. tries to lock down the 99% of the planet because it feels (w/ zero proof) that pandemics are caused by the earth being flat.
Yeah he's the opposite of Socrates who famously said " )I know nothing except how little more I know than anybody else."
Ahh, you referenced that paper, and its conclusions
This was published by Virus denier John Rappoport who has a cryptic sense of humor likely from being in the virus hui exposure biz for decades: (the later group has more mental acuity)
The two teams are the Virus Hunters, led by the CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service, Tony Fauci, and various doctors and politicians, including Rand Paul and a somewhat reluctant Bob Kennedy…
Versus the Virus Probers, headed up by Andrew Kaufman, Tom Cowan, Christine Massey, Sam and Mark Bailey, Kevin Corbett, Eric Francis Coppolino…
I can't work out why none of you cite or bring up the Perth Group, or Heinrich Kremer, or Huw Christie, or Janine Roberts.
https://www.theperthgroup.com/SCIPAPERS/EPEGalloProveRoleHIVEmergMedOCR1993.pdf
Thank you for the link.
Ps always awesome to hear you and Greg just “shoot the shit “ and have friendly and incredibly interesting conversations :3
Are you claiming that existence of alleged biological viruses has been proven?
Way to go for stupidly pushing the terrainTARD dogma! As if you had an intellect to insult!
Damn straight Nola! I am impressed by how eloquently you called BS on the terrainTARD dogma. It's a tough job but someone has got to do it. Well done!
Thanks! It's one of my pet peeves and credit should go to Meryl for posting this. Her job is MUCH tougher since I have no skin in this game other than enjoying exposing the nonsense for what it is. And "they" make it so easy, so it's really not that tough for me at all lol!
Well done nonetheless!
Why are you all afraid for Meryl, Malone and Kirsch (or whomever) to sit down on camera with Kauffman, Cowan and the Baileys?
Apparently they are afraid to do so and would rather write these hit pieces, while avoiding the elephant that is BEGGING them to have the conversation on camera for all to see. I guarantee that Meryl cannot answer their questions or show how their theory is wrong. But they can do so to her with impunity, which is why they won't dare ever do it.
I DARE THEM!
I dare the master bettor substack banner Steve Kirsch to do it and he banned me.
Your idols are cheap. And lying.
I can't speak for others but I'm not afraid at all. I doubt they are too. Give Steve an incentive. Offer him good odds. Put up some money. It talks and bullshit walks. Bring it on!
yes Nola it is the virus that done it, so why not take innumerable Quaxcine as advised?
What, are you pushing the dogme from the 5 Billion in fruad fines/ & leader in cause of death/Big Pharma's? Could you elucidate your ramblings more lucidly?
I am responsible for what I write, not your understanding it...
thank you Alexander
https://chironreturn.org/chronology/
Not sure how I became unsubscribed from your stack (not the only one it seemed to happen with .)
But as a huge fan of your work this made my day :3 and altered me to the subscription status which I immediately fixed.
Alerted *
welcome back. I'm going to do the Nass story on my show this week. It's just amazing they are calming any relationship to "science" whatsoever. Her bs does not even rise to the level of ad hom. This is pure emotional appeal.
Her boss 🐎🐴 frequently does do ad hominem though , then writes sensitive pieces on cyberstalking and gangstalking when independent reporters get too over the target 🤣😱
Gotta marvel at the kind of minds that can rep Turtles All The Way Down and still advocate for “safe and effective vaccines” as they ever existed or were ever effective.
And that’s honestly such a huge tell. Repping turtles as its hip and in , the logical end point of investing if any of them work and if not why - simplest answer with abundant proof is because they couldn’t because they never had any alleged defeated , live or any other viruses 🦠 to create antigens with .
That’s too far health freedom thought leaders get big mad and drop the CIA word spells ! CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! CULTISTS! ANTISOCIAL! CHAOS AGENT!
🤣🥲
Glad to see the top rated comment is monstering your post Meryl. I don’t pretend to understand “science” (or even want to) but I think I have a good 🐎💩 detector & when you look in to virology it stinks to high heaven
Very heartening to see the people lift it up rather than let it be shot down! There’s many more of us than we (or certainly I)realize thank God!
The "no viruses exist" idea is the opposite of the "all viruses are deadly" idea - the first lifts us up off the ground, while the second drags us into the mud. Wanting to believe there's no such thing as a virus is as counterproductive as wanting to believe a corona virus is like a death-fog rolling down the valleys. It's a distraction. What might be new as an understanding is not so much that germs don't exist, but that the way illness works may not be quite what we have been told. Does the immune system really mirror the globalists' picture of life where one group fights off another, where one must dominate, or does the immune system behave like our sense of self; discerning self from non-self, and partnering with illness in a far more subtle way? Do we emerge strengthened from illness, as we previously thought, or are we really helpless victims of random pathogens which only a savior vaccine can rescue us from?
I don't believe any researcher/dr/scientist today would say that all viruses are deadly. Viruses are ubiquitous and only a very few are deadly.
Actually none have ever been proven to be deadly, because none has ever been isolated with proper scientific methodology.
Exactly Geraldine, when will anyone prove they have, “Isolated and Purified” Covid? Without that, they have nothing but an ill intent on murdering massive amounts of people! Which is exactly what has happened. Tit for tat is as useful as trying to understand a newborn! That’s exactly what all this seems to be now. Unless the rich and famous, the ones that give a damn, decide to pour their resources into bringing those responsible to justice, we are all just pissing in the wind! I will say, a great vent though. But nothing will ever be solved. Unless I missed the breaking news I have only heard the opposite. Whatever has been injected into the bodies of millions worldwide is reversed, death and disability will continue! I know and most people know, the world was “conned” and in essence murdered by the
“bio-pharmo-nutto’s”! Germs / viruses have always plagued humanity, humanity has always put there God given defensive front line, front and center to keep them in check. My concern is the constant division against the wrong team! The world should be uniting to tear the truth out of these S.O.B’s WHO, decided it was time to rid the world of all the useless feeders! There wouldn’t be much of a world, now would there be, if it weren’t for the useless feeders, inventing and building and tending to the fields of life helping the “kabillionares” well become, “kabillionares”! How fickle and how sad, half the population haven’t a clue, the other half is tearing themselves apart and what’s left? Exactly, humans destroying humans! The world needs more unity, a simple fact but an unlikely chance that will ever happen. May God Bless America and The Entire World!
AJR
What you say is true, but ultimately the virus lie has to be accepted because the psychopaths who want to exterminate us useless eaters keep using the lie as the base of their fear porn.
AJR. The Uniting. It won’t happen, sadly, until God intervenes and saves humanity from itself. As He has promised. I say this because you asked God to bless us. We are nearing that point. We SHOULD be uniting to fight this evil cabal. The vitriol I sense here now and in other places seems to be increasing as the danger increases. Virus, or not, that’s the least of the dangers facing us and even Meryl must get off that branch of a tree that should be making us stronger and taller. It’s dead. The FACT that humanity and even nations, are contributing to the sacrifice of their own children --the future of mankind--should be the one thing that unites us. I used to believe the bomb would be the agent of our own destruction but now I see clearer. Of course it would be more “personal”. The evil forces would prefer that. A pernicious easy injection that would cause agony, twisted futures, pain, bankruptcy, grief, depression, death, lives ruined, failed nations. Families torn apart. All around a repeated visit to the “doctors” from even the day of birth. And lining up in drugstores to get a jab that just seems like a kinder, gentler boxcar to oblivion. I am praying for discernment but the question of viruses seems like a tiny puff in the hurricane approaching us. Stay strong, AJR. We will need each other one way or another.
May I suggest a slight modification to your already very good statement with: " ... only a very few are relevant to disease; the rest have existences that have little to nothing at all to do with disease"?
Is it possible that it isn't the "virus" that is deadly, but the condition of the immune system to expel it that causes death?
No reason why it can't be both. Deconstructionism is happening in every field, in every area - social, religion, medical, healthcare..... when it happens across so many areas, you have to take a step back and question why, why now, and to what end. There's a reason it's happening all at once. I think we have to be very discerning and just stand back and observe for a while. Looking back in history, deconstructing makes for chaotic times and the ending isn't always so nice.
No it is not the opposite, Both are true. No one has isolated a virus. The story is akin to suggesting that DNA fragments in a pot of soup demonstrate proof, that is patently absurd.
Can you show me at least one scientific paper which proves existence of any biological virus by adhering to the scientific method?
You can do the same for alleged immune system and nucleotides.
Viruses can be observed under transmission electron microscope. Do you dispute this fact? 😂😂😂
Antibiotics kills bacteria and saves lives. I bet you have your own parallel universe to disprove the scam.
Then what else is new?
Yes, I dispute this as EM is not validated method with reference material , does not allow direct real time observations of all vital occurring processes.
Antibiotics are toxic substances and killing bacteria has never been proven to save any life.
I like your answer the best!
Yes I remember reading an article a few years ago (published in 2018) on viruses. The heading was "10 Viruses That Actually Help Humankind", I believe that humans have lived with and adapted over a hundred thousands years and that this does not detract from terrain theory.
Well said!
.....aaaaaand THEY'RE OFF!!!!
Wow. Just wow. Let me get this straight. Here you are with a huge platform given to you by RFK Jr, and CHD, on a massive regular basis, attacking, out of the blue, the people who have no platform whatsoever, but who do have one thing in hand: the basic ability to reason and to read scientific papers. Then you call them names, accuse them of being part of a psy-op and of being mean and that thus people shouldn’t listen to them. All for doing what, exactly? All for pointing out that the science behind virology has massive logical flaws in its reasoning, and that it’s own experiments dissprove it’s conclusions. So, in the other words, here you are with a significant media platform, parrotting the government science, legitimating the orthodoxy of established nonsense upon which the whole absurd field of vaccination is based, while claiming to be some sort of protector of the people? You’re joking right? You couldn’t possibly have written this, correct? Please tell me some sort of government zombie-bot hijacked your account and offered up this illogical and mean-spirited dribble.
You then go on to apply what has got to be the most inane reasoning I have ever witnessed as support for your belief in viruses. Why on earth if you have a flu, or herpes, does it have to be caused by a virus. Because you said so? That is literally your line of reasoning. If I say that the rain is really just giant invisible unicorns peeing from the sky, and I see it rain, does that prove these unicorns exist? Obviously not. But that is the level of reasoning you assert in your piece above. I am just…flabbergasted.
Enough already. Why do so many establishment doctors keep ignoring the very real problems with “virology” and instead attack those who point out these problems? And why is it always the same line of attack: “people who point out problems with virology are mean. Don’t listen to them. Obviously viruses exist because we get sick.” If that is the level of rhetoric coming from “doctors” who claim to be against the covid narrative, we are effing doomed people. Please, oh please, if you want to “criticize” the criticism of virology, as part of some reactionary orthodox defense system, please at the very least, READ the actual criticism of virology first. At least understand what the problems with virology are, before you jump to its defense. Why do I beg that of you? Because I have some tiny amount of faith that if you actually bothered to understand the “science” on this issue, you would see in a flash that this entire field is baloney. Let me give you a simple way to start: watch the documentary The Viral Delusion. www.theviraldelusion.com If you are not emotionally capable of at least engaging with the actual and very real problems that virology has as a so-called “science” then let that be a sign to you that perhaps you are not ready for this level of intellectua discussion, and you should simply choose, out of basic common sense, not to comment on the matter, and to refrain from using terms like “virus” which you do not actually understand. These kinds of attacks are like belches of ignorance, stinking up a moment that is pregnant with the possibility of transcending this idiotic hole of a paradigm rockelfeller-government “science” has plunged us into, upon which the lockdown of the entire planet was justified, and from which some of us are at least trying to climb out without having to bother with these blows of aggressive arrogant ignorance dressing itself up as compassion.
"People who have...the basic ability to reason and to read scientific papers"- translation: "people whose ability to reason has been coopted by a psyop and fed pseudo-scientific papers to swallow and then regurgitate ad nauseum". Too bad you got sucked in. Better luck with the next one.
Omg. Are you a bot? Is this really your attack? You believe that scientific criticism is ipso facto a psy-op? How do you make that determination? Do you even understand the foundational problems with virology? Do you fully understand what those problems are? Or are you writing this just because the idea that disease isn't caused by viruses "sounds silly and mean" I have had it with ignorant bullies pushing people around on this issue. It's a disgrace. Either explain to me why the foundational criticisms of virology are, in reality not sound criticisms, or go home. Please don't attempt to bully and insult people if you don't know what you are talking about. It's embarrasing, maybe not for you, but for all of humanity.
"Nola" is a helpful thug. He/she/it just spews invective of the "Shut up, ignorant peasant!" form, like many or even most of the virus pushers in the comments (and in the article). Unbiased observers will note the contrast with the mostly polite comments by the other side and may rightly conclude that the invective covers for lack of substance. So, in another thread, I've encouraged him/her/it to keep up the good work of helping people see the virology pseudoscience for what it is.
Hi Sanjoy - Nola continues to prove that you're observation is right with just about every comment! I wonder what intelligence agency or PR firm is behind "Nola?"
Quite possibly. Those substacks that she follows are consisitent in those who attack.
You go home- you're drunk. The "foundational problems with virology" are the same as with all others. You either accept the findings of the VAST majority of scientists or you stubbornly refuse to out of sheer narcissistic arrogance. I don't have to "explain" ANYTHING to you or anyone else who is only here to passive-aggressively attack the OP and anyone else who actually does have a clear understanding of the complexities of scientific pursuit. When that virus bites you in your arrogant ass you'll sing another tune. If you survive. Go find a rabid dog to pet. See what happens and come back and tell us, m'kay?
What findings? Unscientific methods? And if enough "scientists" make these, thats your proof?? Are you insane? Show us ONE study proving the existence of a virus. But you wont, you can't.
No, stupid. I won't. Go away and play with the other cultist trolls.
See? You can't. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch right?
A whole load of shit doesn't make a good cake. It's still shit.
A whole lot of bad scientific 'studies' which don't respect the scientific method, don't give any evidence of something.
Not evidence that the cultists would accept. Go drink some more koolaid. Be happy.
Mindless troll
I confess that I don't get it either. its one thing to posit that one's 'terrain' is a determinate of one's health (completely logical and factual; more scientific evidence for that all the time. the metabolic changes that occur from chronic stress alone shows that you're more than the sum of environmental exposures). but the insistence that viral pathogens don't exist and ONLY the state of your body creates illnesses is, well, bordering on cult-like. and getting more cult-like every day. personally, I just ignore it.
don't let the cause of bodily sovereignty & health freedom be damaged and diluted by such irrelevancies. carry on, Dr Nass. don't get distracted by it. they are allowed to 'believe' whatever they want. just like we are. changes nothing.
There are other things besides “viral pathogens” they cause disease. They’re called toxins and our environment is filled with them.
I challenge you to rebut the science - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
Teh virus nonsense is an important lie to get rid of. That way we can start to focus on what really makes us ill.
The page you linked to includes a majority of publications that are over a century old. None of them established the nonexistence of viruses, but only the fact that some animals and people are resistant to viral illness. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23737050/
Ok... great... Now that you've focused on what you wanted to focused on as an attempt to distract from the truth please also address the latest studies the latest which is 2022... I'll wait.
Again: none of these demonstrate the nonexistence of viruses, merely that certain viruses are necessary but not sufficient to cause certain diseases.
Are you shifting the burden of proof on those who ask about evidence of alleged biological viruses?
How far back do I need to go to explain this to you? You CANNOT have an infectious pathogenic agent or particle without having these particle transmit NATURALLY from a sick person to a healthy person. If you have this proof feel free to send it on.
In the meanwhile you can do some research on the topic - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/hacking-at-the-root-of-the-virus
Now you’re just blithering. Which is how you make your living, no doubt. If you’re a human at all.
There are very real concerns about the virus, the source and effects of the virus, and the effects of the actions taken by governments in reaction to the virus. Your absurd claims are diverting attention from the serious topic and discrediting our own opposition to lethal and cruel measures.
Totally agree with you. And after reading the “no virus” sniping in comments I am always left with the question- so what’s your point? Why pick this fight with hard working healers? Call it what you want to call it - virus or toxin but people are getting sicker and need help so stop fighting and start healing.
Because a germ theory is a scam.
@kordelas If the germ theory is a “scam”, then you should have the guts to say that YOU WILL NOT USE ANY ANTIBIOTICS for the rest of your life.
Yes, there is no reason to use so-called antibiotics.
@kordelas Have you used 1/1000th of the efforts here against antibiotics? I bet you haven't. Why not incorporate the efforts in your New Year resolution to shout to the world that the "so-called antibiotics" stinks?
I use reason and logic. Not resolutions.
But keep coping. Your coming mechanism is funny.
At least I admire you for the fact that you put your body where you mouth is. Make sure you stick to your cult without cheating.
To be in a cult, it requires beliefs. And beliefs are not a part of my cognitive standards.
Therefore your mental gymnastic failed.
Nass could simply get Malone, Kirsch and her favorite virus believers to debate openly on camera with Cowan, Kauffman and the Baileys and let the thing occur. Maybe Meryl could prove the isolation she claims happens? For us all to see?
But they won't do it and I suspect that like Kirsch banned me for even asking about it, Meryl might ban me, as well, because that is easier to do than actually get on camera with them and debate this in the open instead of this poor hit piece.
But she won't. And THAT is telling.
I did debate cowan and Kaufman about 3 years ago for CHD and it was a clown show. Just like the commenters here, they refused to grapple with facts presented by myself and Dr. Sin Hang Lee, sticking to their talking points like glue, interrupting repeatedly, and in essence acting like children. Yes I did. So now they can explain warts and shingles and herpes and then I will engage, not before. Because they already showed me they have no answers to simple facts like those.
You and Lee did not present logical evidence that proves existence of any alleged biological virus.
"Burden of Proof
Informal
This fallacy originates from the Latin phrase "onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat"). The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions) the claim. The fallacy of the Burden of Proof occurs when someone who is making a claim, puts the burden of proof on another party to disprove what they are claiming."
As you can see, no one has to provide you any explanation if you are unable to substantiate your claim. This is logic.
Here you go. Viruses.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=viruses
Here you go what?
I do not see even one document which proves any alleged bio virus by adhering to the scientific method.
Thus they are on a level of publications about unicorns.
https://www.google.com/search?q=unicorns
I see: this debate is the main source of your ire. Cowan and Kaufman can be rigid and abrasive, no doubt. They ruffle feathers without regret. But the Baileys, Mike Stone, Eric Coppolino, and many others, are patient, reasonable, polite, and informative. Their position on virology is Copernican; that they offend cherished beliefs is to be expected, wouldn't you say? But as Wittgenstein says, what they destroy are mere houses of cards.
I, as a Family Physician, have always sought forms of understanding of processes which would help me better reduce the suffering which my patients were experiencing from disease. The empirical usefulness of Virology as a model of human disease, which suggests interventions, which can be tested for efficacy is high. I would readily embrace another model that offered better efficacy from the interventions which it would suggest.
Like "A Midwestern Doctor" I perceive Germ-Theory and Terrain-Theory as being complimentary approaches to treating, mitigating and helping-prevent human disease states.
(I almost never need to take medicines at 65. I am a vegetable gardener, avoiding food additives. I had my appendix out when I was 4 years old. It was infected. The surgery likely saved my life.)
I like your reply. But the issue is the truthfulness, not the usefulness of virology. I do not assert establishing truth is ever easy, but it is worth doing, no? The suffering caused by toxic treatments to treat questionable pathogens should be on the table too.
Yes, the suffering caused is core to any evaluation of utility and of truth.
No one has proven any infectious disease.
Thus no proof that your appendix was infected. But it could be inflamed and physically damaged for various reasons.
Fake models are not useful, unless you want to bamboozle the masses.
agreed, my 70 yo friend who received the covid shot was rushed to the OR 4 days after to have her appendix removed(prior she never had an issue), so it is fair to assume a toxic insult
"The proof of the pudding is in the eating", as the saying goes.
These medical models are useful in application. Deaths from childbirth and surgery dropped dramatically and right away from instituting handwashing techniques.
"If the shoe fits, wear it."
Where is the video link?
"Clown show" seems to indicate that you had your butt handed to you and you are butt hurt over it.
It would be interesting to witness the "clown show".
Thanks for all you do Dr. Nass. It is so surprising to have people get so vicious over a topic. If you don't have broad shoulders for all these attacks, wearing padded shoulder pads may help. LOL.
Thank you for all the work you have done around the world to bring awareness of the WHO treaty and its details. I hope January finds you home and resting from all your travels. Happy New Year.
German New Medicine explains these issues.
As to “...warts and shingles and herpes...”, a more pertinent question might be why, when exposed to the ‘virus’ entities you suggest are the ‘cause’, some individuals exhibit the ‘symptoms’ consistent with the virus and some do not (controlling for variables such as previous exposure / vaccine etc). In other words is there something about an individual which predisposes them to exhibiting those characteristic symptoms.
Nineteenth century medicine was a lot more open, competitive, and honest than
My impression of those who question virology is that they question the alleged causative link between a "thing" found in someone with that someone's subsequent illness -- not that the "thing" does not exist.
I'd have to think about it, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard Dr. Sam Bailey or Dr. Tom Cowan ever say that these "things" don't exist; maybe they have..? I think their stance is questioning whether a direct link exists -- and that is a valid question.
The "no virus" crowd is the controlled opposition. They are used to make everyone who thinks the covid vaccine in particular is harmful into nutjobs through association. "If you think the vaccine is harmful, you must be one of those no virus nutjobs". With this they attempt to destroy your credibility among the sheeple. Amazingly, it works often enough to keep being used. But just like over using starter fluid in a car, eventually the damage caused will defeat any usefulness it ever had.
It is like being called a racist for not supporting Gaza. It isn't meant to change your mind, but to turn people against you, meanwhile, actual racists are destroying black families and persecuting Jews. It is maddening but you have to remember, eventually the wheels fall off the tactic and it happens suddenly.
One day people will believe the controlled opposition represents the entire other side and the next they will realize they have been duped and they actually fall in the middle of the spectrum of beliefs. Will it come in time? Will it make a difference? Hard to say, but there has already been blood shed over it and I fear there will be a whole lot more before the New Year is out.
How are they controlled opposition, unlike anyone derisively dismissing them, they have citations, go through the seminal papers in painstaking detail and well done videos making it easy for anyone to assess it and see what they think of it.
Controlled opposition corrals you into a mental pen with no real answers beyond what puppet masters want as the other end of the Overton window.
Globalists and Medical Freedom Fighters agree : unproven viruses are real citation: cuz lol ur dumb breh 😔🙄
Anyone who’s getting emotional and ad hominem clearly hasn’t bothered to look for themselves.
These people have a lifetime of believing the lie and have made money from that lie. How will they ever give up a lifetime of believing that lie? It's virtually impossible.
Which is too bad. For the truth is that if these things do not exist, then we know that someone is using some other method (poisons, etc) to kill and sicken people). We would obviously know that the covid shot is bogus (along with any medication or treatment for viruses).
What Meryl, Malone and others don't realize is that we have had a lifetime of seeing these lies play out over and over again. Just because they profit from those lies makes it near impossible for them to ever change.
ANOTHER reason why we all need an unconditional UBI that's high enough to live on: so professionals can AFFORD to be honest, no matter how badly the gov't & its Boards of Licensure screw up the economy for everyone else.
Professionals also need UBI? Please.
...so when they refuse to lie to their patients/push toxic protocols onto them, they don't have to take up burger-flipping for a living, obviously.
Seems to me that they have made enough lucre already. I think the financial issue is hardly healed by UBI. That doesn't attack the root of the problem.
that response if clearly over Mr. Dirts head, but for others spot on
Coming from someone who has probably never read a single paper on the subject. Do yourself a favor and try not speak on topics you know nothing about. It will save you the trouble of looking like a fool.
If you are interested to find the truth perhaps review the foundational work. There are people who have done most of the work for you. Here is a good starting point - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
Do you understand that "no virus" stands for no virus has ever been proven to exist?
They just ask for logical evidence and so far no one is able to provide it.
So calling them the controlled opposition is pathetic.
No Joe you have it exactly wrong and clearly are uneducated but fully entitled to your false beliefs. Your analogies are pathetic and off topic. Logic 101 calling Mr. Dirt
I have heard from vaccine proponents over and over again that "If you think the vaccine is harmful, you must be one of those no virus nutjobs." Whether paid by Pharma or not, terrainTARDS work for Pharma. Their job is to hold the antivaxx movement up to mockery and derision. Some people say terrain "theory" is to virology as Newtonian physics is to relativity theory but that's not right. Newtonian physics is an inferior paradigm to relativity theory because it's a "degenerative research program" but it is at least still scientific. Terrain "theory" is more than a degenerative research program. It's just plain pseudoscience. It's proponents are delusional crazies.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
A theory aka hypothesis is not the same what a scientific theory is.
That is delusional uneducated low IQ nonsense. You are talking through your ass and think your delusional opinions and feelings are facts. A hypothesis is an assumption or prediction made before any experiment or other form of scientificresearch is done. It is formed so that it can be tested to see if it might be true. A theory is a principle formed usually to explain the things already shown in data.
Lol. I laugh at your coping mechanism.
I already told you that a scientific theory is not the same what theory is. ST has to be based on positive results from scientific experiment.
Just a theory is like a hypothesis.
And study this so you can see differences between real science and your scientism.
https://www.grist4themill.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Science-Versus-Scientism.png
Show me a virus then. Should be easy huh?
Only if you are skilled in X-ray crystallography https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23737050/
X-ray crystallography is not even a valid method as there is no reference material for it. And it does not allow to observe all vital occurring processes in real time. Also it is not an experimentation on independent variable.
It seems that you have no clue what you are talking about.
Blah blah blah, im no virus after years of study, i am a father and husband, i work 40hrs a week to try to make a better future for my kids. I can assure you I am no idiot or controlled opposition. I would suggest that you have not done enough of your own research on the subject and maybe you need to open your mind a little to accept other possibilities to explain what I'll admit appears as contagion.
I have a few friends who are red pilled enough to know that something bad is up in 2023 with the vaccines, with the world really. But these friends say that viruses either don't exist, or probably don't exist, or may not exist. When I ask what then causes us to get sick together in the same household, and the conversation starts to break down. Then I have asked what is rabies? In the wild, the snowshoe hare goes through fairly predictable cycles of population growth followed by a sharp decline occurring in fairly similar and predictable periods of time as do the predators who eat the hares. If not a virus, then what? If it were bacteria as the cause, someone surely would have ID'ed it in a slide under a scope by now..
I listen to an interview where Andrew Kaufman, when asked where his proof was that viruses don't exist, and he said, its was not up to him to provide the proof. Reminded me a bit like saying gravity doesn't exist because one can't see it.
I have an issue with the no virus theory also. How do you explain a family member getting sick then you get it. Someone sick working on your computer.. then you get what they had. When you are tired , exposed to a lot of toxins etc, your terrain is weaker and then you can get sick from a virus.. a cold sore, shingles etc.
And Covid is not the same as the flu. I had it once, never had anything like it. Got it from my husband.. who had been traveling. Many young people got really sick. Not to say that hospital protocols didn’t cause a lot of the deaths and refusal of early treatment caused more. It could for sure be an aerosolized man made pathogen. But it’s something.
There is no such thing as no virus theory. But there is a challenge to a claim about existence of biological viruses. So far no one has proven any bio virus.
And a lack of knowledge what caused of something is not a proof of viruses.
Science proceeds by falsification. The onus is on you set up testable hypotheses and then falsify them. You FAIL.
Stefan Lanka’s seven proofs that viruses don’t exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=bgeTuHdHzG8
The scientific method has it all covered.
And no, it is not on me because I do not claim that viruses exist.
If you do, then the burden of proof is on you.
So I am waiting for logical evidence of bio viruses from you.
You have not got a clue.
You failed to debunk any of my arguments.
But keep coping with your scientism cult.
https://www.grist4themill.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Science-Versus-Scientism.png
Do you actually think 'You have not got a clue' is a valid argument?
What causes rabies has never been identified. Pasteur was a chemist, not a research scientist who tortured dogs and was a functionary of Napoleon III, who made up diseases to keep the British from using the Suez Canal. His diaries, which were never to see daylight, were given to a French research institution and then in 1993 given to Princeton University, where they were translated. Pasteur admitted his fraud. The side effects of the rabies ‘vaccine’ can be similar to the claimed disease. The vaccine also causes spinal lesions in senior dogs so they can not manage their hindquarters, and destroys their heart valve connections, among other things.
It’s a scam to injure, kill and make money like other vaccines.
And your point is?
No pathogen said to cause rabies has ever been identified and proved to cause what is referred to as rabies.
Here's rabies. You can thank me later.
https://open.substack.com/pub/officialbrendanmurphy/p/the-rabies-delusion-revealed?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=tq9u1
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/What-About-Rabies:a
https://viroliegy.com/2022/08/08/rabies-the-virus-of-fear/
Read this long ago.. Mike (Stone/Rock) is a FB friend.
A flip-side question to yours re "get sick together in the same household" is this: What explains the person or persons who remain well in that household? If virus = direct cause of symptomatic illness, what keeps some people well while surrounded by those unwell/sick? Even if these healthy people "test" "positive" for "the virus?"
I rode both NYC and Boston subways for years up close and personal with hackers, sneezers, nose-blowers, coughers. Not for five minutes, but, for example, the 40 minutes from Cambridge to Downtown Crossing. Nothing -- oh, and no flu shot. Ever.
I think I believe 😊 that "viruses" exist. What I remained unconvinced about is their alleged direct involvement -- in any way -- with ensuing symptomatic illness.
Here is the proof. How about you rebut this - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
That way no one have to go by anecdotes or observational trash of snowshoe hare which is akin to a Narnia fairytale.
Did he really say that? He's relying on the "can't prove a negative" argument. Hmmm.... well then, unicorns exist and I don't have to prove it. lol
If he has said that I believe it's in the context that he and others challenge that it's the virologists themselves that have the burden of proof upon them because the methods they use have never done that. If you haven't digested their critique and taken in the so-called 'isolation of viruses' that is typically done then you might be more open to their criticisms.
I do believe the "can't prove a negative" was it. Still at the time I was willing to at least hear that side out, so it would have been nice of him to offer some alternative explanations as possibilities. He did not.
Are you saying that a lack of knowledge to what causes some symptoms is a proof of viruses?
The point I am really wanting to make is that the wheels of humanity have fallen off, and we are arguing over who last tightened the lug nuts.. Who cares! The general population is broken, perhaps permanently. There are those who are responsible for this who are loving the fact that we are diminishing ourselves with all this infighting. If you want to believe there are no viruses, I am fine with that. I just wish and hope that we could just put that aside and get behind those who are taking this fight up the chain to the very top. The rest of it, the virus/no virus argument is just meaningless blather in relation to the real problems. Best left to those armchair phd's who want to show how clever they are. IT IS NOT HELPING!
Anyone who uses logic can see that we live in system that is based on degenerative principles. The system which is created and run by usurpers-parasites.
Beliefs are not my cognitive standards. And viruses are still not proven. A virology scam is one of tools of usurpers-par. That is why it is important to destroy it.
There are other scams as well and they should be destroyed as well.
And who's creating the infighting? This is not a "virus/no virus argument" as you mention here. It's actually a scaremongering "viruses are dangerous and can kill you so you should (or MUST) take our elixirs/prove there are viruses that actually cause what you claim" debate. The back and forth in this post (which does include some childish attacks coming from only one side from what I've seen) is occurring because of Dr. Nass' crude attack on what is misperceived (giving her the benefit of the doubt) as a simplistic 'virus/no virus' dichotomy. It's a shocking attack considering this is the type of tactic the institutional frauds backed by the billions of pharma and media resort to and perpetuate in order to avoid real science and debate.
No one who questions unsubstantiated claims has to replace those claims with anything.
So you deal with two subjects.
One is unsubstantiated claim about a natural phenomenon.
Another one is about what causes a natural phenomenon.
And asking about proof of absolute non-existence of something is illogical as such a thing can't be proven.
BTW
Existence of gravity is still not proven. Thus the burden of proof is on those who claim its existence.
Despite asking a decent question and suggesting you got no reply, which is unlikely. You are making logical fallacy assertions, which are not useful.
Yawn. Just cite a valid scientific study showing "the virus", Meryl?
It should be sooo easy for you if you're right.
I challenged you back in August 2022 and you failed:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Meryl-Nass-Aug-2022-PACKAGE-redacted.pdf
Response to gaslighting about the “virus” isolation/purification FOI requests:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/response-to-gaslighting-about-my-foi-requests/
"Does she plan to dine off her 100 FOIAs forever?" you ask.
LOL, I received max $5000 this year in substack donations from ppl grateful that I help expose the fraud/delusion of virology.
"Covid" already has gone away for those of us who realize "the virus" was never shown to exist and all the "confirmed cases" were based on fraudulent, meaningless tests. Interesting how you insist on keeping it alive in people's minds.
Pretty wild that you would compare an alleged sub-microscopic particle that is said to have been sequenced, characterized, studied scientifically and killed millions... to the sun - something we can all see with our bare eyes and experience day in, day out.
Re your final comments about colds, flu etc: Wow, you still conflate effects (illness) with presumed particles ("viruses"), causation and transmission.
And pretend that "pathogens" are the only possible cause of those illnesses??
Unreal.
And now you try to reverse the burden of proof as well - lol!
Not that it even merits a response, but... I've never claimed to have a 1-size-fits-all particle that explains every cold or flu etc. That is part of the delusion of the germ hypothesis, not my way of thinking. Bizarre.
p.s.
It's actually FOI responses from 220 institutions in 40 countries, and easily 250 FOIs in total on "SARS-COV-2" alone.
This detail would have been super-easy for any careful researcher/reporter to fact-check, Meryl.
And the FOIs don't stop with the imaginary "SARS-COV-2". We have many on other alleged "viruses" as well - no records there either.
FOIs reveal that health/science institutions have no record of any “virus” having been found in a host and isolated/purified. Because virology isn’t a science:
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-have-no-record-of-any-virus-having-been-isolated-purified-virology-isnt-a-science/
Freedom of Information Responses reveal that health/science institutions around the world (220 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
(includes FOIs and emails from investigative journalist Torsten Engelbrecht directly to "SARS-COV-2" researchers):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
Do virologists perform valid control experiments? Is virology a science?
(includes both FOIs to institutions, and email exchanges directly with "SARS-COV-2" researchers):
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/do-virologists-perform-valid-control-experiments-is-virology-a-science/
To what extent do you accept biology and what are we made up of. Genes, proteins, DNA, cells, biological and chemical processes etc. exist and take place or not?
My focus is on alleged "viruses" (prompted by the scamdemic) and to some extent whether or not any bacteria have been shown to cause illness (no scientific evidence found so far). So I haven't delved into these other areas but am aware there are controversies.
She's just a cultist with absolutely no idea what she's talking about. The cult determines what groupthink their cultists must spout.
Name-calling, how mature and scientific.
Cite a valid scientific study showing a "virus" if you can.
Yes, I always react with "maturity" when confronted with supercilious egos. And you can run along now and do your own homework now like a good little virtue signaler.
Still no study huh? Shame.
Lol, ad hominin.
I've been doing my homework on this issue for the last 3.5+ years, as vaguely noted by Meryl. I've yet to find a valid study showing any "virus", and FOIs from 220 institutions in 40 countries show that no one even has a valid independent variable to study with controlled experiments, or to sequence or characterize.
And the onus is on those making the positive claims, so I challenge you to cite a study.
It's really no use, Christine. Nass, Corbett, Broze etc are all neck deep into the gatekeeper squad paid by the government to discredit us. They had their chance to prove otherwise but at this point it's just ad hominem after ad hominem - they have nothing
Bingo, it's all they have.
It’s apparent you require some education on the true nature of dis-ease and what really makes people ill (teaser: it isn’t a ‘virus’)...until people get educated on this, they will continually be victimized by the pseudo-science of mainstream medicine, whether they support allopathic remedies or not. I invite you to watch this presentation Alfa Vedic did last week which is extremely in-depth on this covering the 6 factors that cause dis-ease. (Skip to about 10min mark to get to start of presentation) https://www.youtube.com/live/E3QWXv4KMCU?si=OT-RHv4wAzF1aCYD
I knew the terrainTARDS would jump all over this! Good luck with your imbecilic pseudo-science BULLSHIT!
Try reading some some of the source documentation instead of hopping on a bandwagon getting mad at people you’ve never bothered to hear out because you don’t like their claims
I read all of their BULLSHIT and watched endless videos of Kaufman, Cowan, and Bailey spouting pseudo-science garbage mostly attributed to the discredited work of Antoine Bechamp. I guess because they use "big words" people like you are very impressed.
No as to the big words and I suppose we saw wildly different material from each.
That being said , pseudoscience is not characterized by insisting on the use of the actual scientific method. That’s where it becomes unclear how you think they engage in pseudoscience
Exactly how is it clear to you that those freaks ARE using the scientific method? You seem to be hypnotized by their doublespeak, which is certainly NOT "scientific", only scientific-sounding. Do you really believe there is some mysterious "particle" in our blood that can convert into bacteria and back? I've questioned Kaufman DIRECTLY in video conferences and he's always refused to explain his "science". Do you really also believe small pox, measles, rabies, etc CANNOT be conferred from an infected person to another? Do you understand how UNETHICAL it would be to purposely infect someone with a pathogen just to satisfy YOUR demand for proving Koch's 4th "postulate"? Do you have ANY idea that viruses were NOT known to Koch and that his "postulates" were ONLY applicable to LIVING organisms like bacteria? Do you even know what a virus is?
You have partaken of the kool aid and demanded refills.
You use buzzwords that you clearly do not comprehend...
You are in the dark. you need to learn about certain bacteria and their very clever morphological adaptation strategies.
There are actually videos of one lifeform changing into another lifeform. Here’s one: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/watch-microbial-life-earth
Are you saying that Kaufman's hypotheses are not scientific and they should not be researched?
Are you claiming that virology is based on the scientific method?
pseudoscience - a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method
Are we spreading rubella with the MMR vaccine? Is rubella a virus? It says here they isolated and sequenced the virus. How do they know it was a vaccine strain of the virus? Science, maybe?
"Vaccine-associated Rubella - a report of two cases and a review of the literature"
Abstract
"We report the clinical characteristics of two adult patients, presenting with a typical erythematous rash consistent with rubella disease after MMR vaccination. Both patients had an uncomplicated clinical course and recovered uneventfully. One patient was confirmed to have vaccine-associated rubella via sequencing of virus isolated in viral culture. The other patient had a pharyngeal swab positive for rubella virus PCR, with sequencing matching the vaccine strain. There are few reports of clinical disease from rubella vaccine-strains in the literature. Previous authors have reported severe disseminated vaccine-associated rubella in both immunodeficient and immunocompetent patients. Further study is required to ascertain the incidence, risk factors, and clinical characteristics of this condition; as well as investigate the extent of horizontal transmission to guide infection control recommendations."
Ong SWX, Vasoo S, Sadarangani SP, et al. Vaccine-associated Rubella - a report of two cases and a review of the literature. Hum Vaccin Immunother. 2021;17(1):224-227.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530771/
Existence of biological viruses, immune system and nucleotides has never been proven.
You can read more about this here:
https://viroliegy.com/
https://criticalcheck.wordpress.com/2021/12/15/dna-discovery-extraction-and-structure-a-critical-review/
Do you also deny the existence of the human virome?
https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-the-Human-Virome.aspx
There are no such things proven as biological viruses.
You can read more about this here:
https://viroliegy.com/
Nola, you are being very rude
So bite me. I'm sick and tired of idiots falling for charlatans and quacks. And even more sick of social shaming, virtue signalling asses.
Sounds like some hardcore projection my dear
Lol maybe. But you can bite me too.
You clearly have no valid arguments here. So no wonder you resort to insults.
Laura, while it's tempting, it's actually best not to engage with the trolls.
I suppose so but I want to fight back
They report back on how the interactions are going and have questionnaires to fill out. Personally, I'd rather not be a part of that.
Classic response here Nola, way to show your intellectual mettle. Not helping your cause at all.
What "cause" would that be? I'm just agreeing with the OP. And what "mettle" are YOU bringing to the discussion?
Do you have logical evidence that proves existence of alleged biological viruses, immune system and nucleotides?
None that you would understand. So I'll just keep "coping" I guess.
Yes, I do not understand how a lack of evidence of them proves them.
Lol.
Yes, coping is the best way for you.
This is amazing. I should not have to say this, but just to clarify, the fact that the scientific, medical and public health sectors were profoundly cowed, silent or complicit in what was largely the COVID fraud, should not indict the prior work of virologists and physicians.
The nature, and the almost certainly unnatural history, of the Sars-CoV-2 is a matter or considerable interest. Multiple working hypotheses are warranted, even as the story solidifies. Much of the worldwide, social event termed the "COVID Pandemic" was an exaggerated theater produced with non-biological means of social control, banking and the broadcast Medium. This is not to be confused with the virus, a virus of unknown composition, provenance and contradictory evidences regarding actual virulence and epidemiological details.
There are, in fact, plenty of electron-micrographic studies of the great variety of viruses that interact with the world of bacteria, protozoa, fungi, plants and animals. The geometric patterns of the capsids of some viruses are beautiful things of wonder.
From the very beginning, combined immunohistological labeling-electronmicroscopic studies should have been combined with epidemiological studies -- especially in small, indicator towns -- along with properly executed sampling strategies across the nation should have been a given.
That these kinds of studies were not done in order to properly identify, distinguish and undertand the putative "COVID virus" only invited the rational hypothesis (among contrary ones as well) that obfuscation may have actually been the goal. Goal or not, obfuscation was achieved by unintelligent hysteria by public health and political officials..
Viruses exist. Sars-CoV-2, such as it is, probably exists/-ed at least in places, in some form, possibly introduced-not-spread. A fraudulent show was constructed around this to create, by exaggeration and misattribution, the apparent justification for remodeling the world economy and banking system---possibly for a vary ugly agenda. (Where did the influenza of 2020-21 go?)
Every physician and biologist knows about the possibility and the likelihood of compromised immune and metabolic systems. This is not evidence for a "terrain theory."
"should not indict the prior work of virologists and physicians." HAVE YOU REVIEWED THEIR WORK? Some people have - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
On your beautiful painted EM nonsense which is after the fact that transmission over the past 2 centuries has failed in every single experiment, extracellular vesicles are indistinguishable from so called "viruses". So please explain to us that how you know what you are seeing on the EMs are viruses (ref:
https://twitter.com/ine16840704/status/1684614968644075521?t=v-jyyZNb6fvNECb1C0U1eg&s=19). And don't tell me via genome sequencing because there is no way to know what the sequence of something is if you have never "isolated" it to have it on its own.
epidemiological studies are equivalent to reading someone's tea leaves to get more information about why they are sick. This is a good joke though. I had a proper laugh at this quackery.
The foundational lie that needs to be substantiated is that your fairy dust can be transmitted. If you cannot prove this every downstream argument you have is irrelevant - https://dpl003.substack.com/p/hacking-at-the-root-of-the-virus. I've sent you the 2 centuries worth of failed transmission studies. Please do send me a study once you come across one because I have been looking and there is none.
Can you provide a scientific paper that proves existence of biological viruses?
Yes.
Then provide it and make sure it adheres to the scientific method.
More questions will follow once you provide it.
Wee are still waiting ..
The 2019-2020 flu was also disappeared, presumably by the "covid" phenomenon. This was clearly demonstrated in the Johns Hopkins study of the CDC's reporting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TKJN61aflI
The flu disappeared, and COVID showed up, driven by fake PCR tests. How convenient!
Yes, and heart attacks, cancer, strokes also were magically disappeared by "covid".
Great comment. I agree completely re the obvious crime that was/is the Covid® operation.
I'm sure many studies using electron microscopy exist showing the great variety of substances that interact with one another. Can you point me to studies that show conclusively that a single one of those substances, a virus, causes symptomatic illness? And that in its absence, illness does not exist?
Thank you for your question. Please permit me to inch my way through this with the thoroughness that I believe you and I will both be satisfied with in the end, or at least further along. That is, we will do this like proper scholars. Thus, I beg for your patience as we tease our way towards what will hopefully be a better understanding of things. Either one of us -- or perhaps both -- may find ourselves surprised. I will return my own perspective to that of agnosticism regarding viral infections and, indeed, as some would invite me to do, even to the very existence of virions as well. As in any proper enquiry, we will have to make sure for ourselves, and for our interlocutors, that we are nailing down important definitions and concepts as soon as they arise and hopefully even as we anticipate there arising in the near future.
My first QUESTION is to ask (this is a question for you and me both), whether there exists evidence for infectious transmission of any disease, by any agent, be it bacterial, protozoal, fungal, viral and some other unusual biological entities?
There is no reason to hurry with your (or my) response. We all have many other tasks to attend to, we should both understand that.
Should you choose to engage, this should be a delight, in addition to likely advancing a common understanding.
No one has proven existence of any infectious disease.
Thank you for honestly identifying your perspective. That was commendable in a small way. It is not fully adequate for a well-reasoned system of thought, in my opinion. Some of us has a responsibility for educating others, protecting public health, treating diseases and developing equipment, pharmaceuticals and therapies. Despite us all having been let down by many who gained inordinate -- even illegitimate -- control of these organizations, these are important institutional functions of society.
I must respectfully, now, say goodbye. We cannot -- at present -- communicate. You and I do not share a frame of reference, or even one that is bridgeable. We need not think of ourselves as enemies., but I must let you attempt to freely try to act in, or perhaps even build, an alternative world using your tools of thought. Maybe you, and not I, will succeed. All the best!
I can see that your realized that eristic, sophistry and other mental gymnastics do not work on me.
Many tried, but all failed.
I participate in discussions and debates with virologists and their supporters (including academia professors) since the beginning of 2020. And I have never lost in any exchange with them.
Here is something that will help you to understand differences between real science and scientism.
https://www.grist4themill.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Science-Versus-Scientism.png
https://viroliegy.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbvY4nJND44
So, David Schmitt, PhD, are you the second string bot?
Good try LOL!
Dear SheThinksLiberty, Weihan Xing, David Shohl, Meryl Nass, Geeky Gesturton, Kalle Pihlajasaari, Kristin Chevrier, and Duane HayesConsider, I am going to transfer this thread to my Substack page, American Siberia, because I do not know how to easily and reliably add comments to a unified discussion without losing you all. I really like Dr. Nass' initiation of this topic. (I will, of course, make sure I provide a link back here to Dr. Nass' article.) Perhaps we can really make headway on this. If you would like to continue our mutual probing into this topic. I am enjoying approaching this by ejecting my prejudiced notions and seeing if I can convince myself once again of the existence of viruses and the reality of inter-organismal, and sometimes inter-specific, transmission of viral diseases.
We have plenty to be critical of regarding the events of 2020-2023. My guess is that viruses will prove to be -- well, actually, "not alive" -- but none-the-less very well at the end. But who knows, maybe we'll decide otherwise after a fair and objective examination.
Let me know when you find logical evidence of alleged biological viruses, Mr educated.
And Judith L. Osterman, I almost lost you.
Exactly! Just like the idiots that tell me my chronic pain can be overcome with wishful thinking. Sheesh.
People who say that should experience chronic pain for a year and then try their method of thinking the pain away. Good grief i did try that, but the pain kept interrupting my wishful thinking.
So true. How many times I wished I could “share” for a while just so people could get the true gist. Mayo Clinic does a program for 50,000$. No insurance. Epic program in wishing away the pain. Geez. 😵💫
I’ve been stuck in worker’s comp hell for 26 years and when they kept denying treatment, drugs or therapy I wished for them to get stuck in hell too just so they could understand what chronic pain does to people. I’ve been dealing with neuropathy for 8 years and I don’t even wish this pain on anyone no matter how bad they are.
Maybe there are some conditions that cognitive therapy helps, but definitely not on pain. And those poor people who paid for the Mayo treatment…it should be pay for each treatment not the whole amount upfront. I hope people will sue…or ask for studies that show it works. But I know desperate people will try anything. I’m just happy that I have a dog to live for because there are days…
I hope you can find some relief!
Bless your heart, I FULLY understand your thinking there. Having someone other than ourselves is so important. Chronic pain is awful and lonely isn’t it. Others cannot understand because even if they have pain for a short time it ends and is dimmed in memory. Every moment for every day for years upon years is sooooooo incredibly hard! Praying for you and others like us. ❤️
"Terrain theory" - stuff in the environment and exosomes and unhealthy bodies and bad nutrition are making people sick and spreading disease from one person to another.
That probably didnt explain it well because im not a convert.
I thought there were plenty of scanning electron microscope pictures of viruses. And they cannot be bred in isolation because they need a host to infect which of course "contaminates" the purity.
There’s lots of artistic renditions of things alleged to be viruses to be sure but as no virus has ever been scientifically isolated it’s just an artists rendition...
What do you imagine the labs have been working on these past 100 yrs? Please - go to your local university virology lab and ask for a tour - it will be very informative and you can ask a lot of questions. If you are near a research lab with an SEM all the better.
Fraud and money printing via vaccines...
You're a fool.
You're proving Meryl's point about this being to divide and create chaos. Why would you call some one names in a discussion?
Why do you care?
Understatement of the year!
Yes, on this point, I concur with you, without reservation.
Meryl, WHY DO YOU "LIKE" THIS???
LMFAO! If a virus requires a living cell to replicate and stay "alive" how does it spread to infect others? This is not a well thought out lie man. Perhaps try something that makes sense...
On the topic of transmission, which is the foundational lie of virology, you'd find that the profession has zero proof. Two centuries of studies has all come to nothing. The profession is well and truly dead. We just need to convince some religious fanatics that their religion is bunk.
For more see:
https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
"If a virus requires a living cell to replicate and stay "alive" how does it spread to infect others?"
I already regret getting into this fight, nonetheless I can't help calling out what is an obvious straw man fallacy: viruses are not alive, and so it follows that they don't die nor are they able to be killed, and there is no requirement that they must stay alive
However, in their possessing of structure, in that their activities are bound and described by chemistry, and in that their morphology and mechanisms of action and interaction are genetically-encoded such that they are subject to selection and genetic drift, they are susceptible to all manner of effects that may develop, or more likely disrupt, disable, or even destroy them.
As to their transmission, I'll leave that for someone else to tackle, perhaps someone who is not located in an inconvenient timezone as I am and really needs to get to bed. But I will ask what dpl makes of these extraordinarily elaborate fictions of the kinds such as the fortuitous angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 receptor binding site of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein undergoing post-translational palmitoylation of the first five cysteine residues of the C-terminal cysteine-rich domain of the SARS-CoV-2 S protein which are indispensable for infection, and the even more unlikely advent of a four-amino acid insert starting with proline (SPRRAR|S) at the junction of the receptor-binding (S1) and fusion (S2) domains of the spike protein, which is a potential cleavage site for the protease furin, and which in turn can trigger conformational changes that release the S2 fusion peptide for insertion into the cell membrane initiating membrane fusion and viral entry, then subsequent expression and localization of the spike to the host cell membrane can induce cell–cell fusion among neighboring cells (forming multinucleate enlarged cells called syncytia), which has been hypothesized to facilitate virus spread among fused cells without exposure to neutralizing antibodies. All rather elaborate if not utterly grotesquely ornate complexification if all you're trying to do is to push onto the people a fiction that viruses cause disease and accordingly people should defend themselves and their grandmas from infection by just shutting-up, obeying and getting themselves injected with this brand-new mRNA gene therapy treatment that we're calling a "vaccine" and you should too if you don't want what's otherwise coming to you - don't you think?
All I read was a load of waffle... This argument is unbelievably easy. I will start with what was discussed before you drifted to something else. That is the issue of "finding" a virus. You now say that a virus does not die or dissipate (struggling with the words seeing as we are trying to describe a fairy tale). Please tell me why it is that no virus has ever been isolated (or purified if you are very familiar with the terminology) from a sample alleged to contain a virus without having to culture it first... If it cannot be found outside a cell in a sample then transmission of the fairy dust you're trying to explain is nonexistent.
Now... Moving on to transmission. There is an unbelievably easy test anyone can do in a well controlled environment to settle this debate yet no one, over 2 centuries has done it. That is to confirm that a sick person can make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways. Before you try and explain this downstream waffle you need to first settle this massive assumption which you have started out with. If a sick person cannot make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways. All your downstream arguments are irrelevant because there can be no virus without it having the ability to spread.
I've summarized it pretty well in the below article. You are more than welcome to rebut the article which contains more than 70 peer reviewed publications categorically proving what you are explaining in such beautiful virology dribble is nothing but a fantasy.
https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
"Please tell me why it is that no virus has ever been isolated (or purified if you are very familiar with the terminology) from a sample alleged to contain a virus without having to culture it first..."
You really don't know the first thing about viruses, do you? Nor about straw man arguments either, it seems, because you seem blithely unaware when you're attempting to make them.
This is likely why you keep repeating the same old saws..
Why don't you answer the question?
"Why don't you answer the question?"
Why don't you?
We both can play this imbecilic game, but it wouldn't serve either of us or our arguments. And besides, why are your questions more deserving of answers than mine? Calling technical detail 'waffle" is not addressing the quandary I presented. On the other hand, it's easily construed as an admission of your plainly insufficient technical literacy, and instead of reacting to your inability to understand the subject with humility, you resort to disparaging dismissals. The Dunning-Kruger Effect comes to mind.
You keep expecting detractors to your "viruses aren't real" doctrine to read your "evidence" - your own articles - but you won't read any other's literature, it seems, because you keep asking that others to do the work for you and identify and present the evidence, ready-made and easily-digestible for you. It's all out there - volumes and volumes of it, in fact, so you best lower your "viruses aren't real" blindfold for a few hours or months or however long you'll need and get to work.
Show me scientific evidence for viruses, nucleotides and immune system.
Making up stories is not going to help you.
Evidence for viruses is the same as for Tooth fairy. It's only indirect evidence (a coin under the pillow), but they've never been isolated in reality. It's just a story for adults, just like Tooth fairy is a story for children.
An expensive story which cost them money and health, buying drugs which they don't need, for viruses which don't exist..
Logic 101 might help you understand this. Think about what it means to be in "close contact" with another person- say, for example, a person whose body is infected with a virus, and is shedding virions. Do I need to go on?
Where do you use logic?
Show me as I can't find in your comments.
So someone becoming sick in Antarctica or a dessert is a mystery to you? Probably of those miracles by the virology gods.
I virus must be found outside a cell in order to infect someone else. But a virus can NEVER be isolated without culturing... LMFAO
Do you have more fairy tales for us?
Since you obviously have absolutely no idea about what you're trying to describe, you can move along now.
This is the ludicrousy you believe princess 🤣😂
"So someone becoming sick in Antarctica or a dessert is a mystery to you? Probably of those miracles by the virology gods."
Aha,! Well, it so happens that I have spent a good while in Antarctica and, let me tell you, during the southern summer, there are hundreds of people around, with more coming and going every day. No miracles were required for becoming sick, because people (ironically - or not - especially the vaccinated ones) tend to be pretty good viral disease vectors.
"But a virus can NEVER be isolated without culturing..."
This had gotten tedious, and even my prodigious endurance is nearing depletion.
Your waffle is becoming tedious indeed. You know fair well what I meant by the examples I gave.
Send me a paper where they've isolated a virus without culturing...
The only example you'd be able to come up with is bacteria phages another one of virology's brilliant cons as these do not cause disease in man.
Send me the paper that proves a sick person can make a healthy person sick by means of natural pathways and send me a paper where they've isolated you fairy dust without culturing then we can decent into your delusion of technicality of the digestive system of a unicorn.
Through normal bodily expulsion /shedding - via exosomes for example - of cells infected with a virus. Through the infected person breathing out droplets containing infected mucosal cells that line the airways. Through touching the saliva other bodily fluids from an infected person, and then touching your eye , for example; if you swallowed it your stomach acid may/may not kill it depending on how lethal it is ( I would not want to swallow cells infected with Ebola (virus), for example!)
How do YOU think an infection spreads from one person to another?
How did I get chicken pox or measles from my friend when I was a kid? How did I (and 6 other people - that I know of) get COVID (SARS CoV2 infected cells) from a single infected person?
Read the article. Contagion is 100% unfounded. If you have a clinical stufy proving it then give it to us and we will examine it and review our position if it valid.
In the meanwhile you can dig some more. Here are the two most detailed controls ever published also dismantling your cute analogy.
I'd quite like to know why all the "I don't believe in viruses" people are all so angry and vicious in their arguments. It seems rather juvenile.
And you said "Read the article." Which article?
Because there are people who blatantly lie about this topic to misdirect others. It's a fairly easy truth to come to... Even by the virologists own literature.
Here is the article:
https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
If you have an open mind you might want to take in their arguments rather than buy into a rather shameful post by Dr. Nass that amounts to an adolescent level attack that mirrors exactly what msm does to RFK Jr and has done to numerous doctors and others who have been silenced for the last few years. These are not "cultists" and they offer very strong arguments because they know the history of virology and have done their research. The pictures of "viruses" offer nothing specific at all. I'm not saying they're definitely right but it's clear there is plenty of fraud in our institutions and that 'viruses' are big money makers and now a method of total control of populations. You could begin here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/gzDLbUx6zESq/
If you'd get your head out of social media and spent even a little time researching viruses and how they affect ALL life forms, and have since the beginnings of life on earth, you might have some appreciation for those engaged in REAL scientific endeavors instead of simply allowing ignorant social media posters feed your own uninformed paranoia.
There is not even one scientific paper that proves any bio virus. This is a fact.
Not one paper YOU'VE ever seen. Because the blind are like that.
I debunked all papers which were provided to me as a proof of viruses since the beginning of 2020.
But keep coping.
Lol.
Dismissing and debunking are not the same. Except to the willfully ignorant.
I always love responses that presume omniscient knowledge about the person being responded to and "called out" so to speak. Perhaps I should be reading mainstream news or watching corporate broadcasting? REAL scientific endeavors like the genocide being perpetrated around the world for the past 3-4 years? Is that the type of "science" you're referring to wherein those who don't play by the medical cartel rules endanger losing jobs and medical practices and even their licenses? Or perhaps academics who lose all their research funding and may be forced to retire for not being part of "consensus science": which is an oxymoron in terms of what science actually entails? Okay, I don't have more time i have to stick my head back into 'social media' because this exchange (which is online so how is it different from social media?) is getting scary and I'm beginning to feel sooo paraaanooiiddd.... I'm so frightened now!! Where's my twitter space?!!! OMG
Where did I deny the Machiavellian bullshit that has been going on? There IS a difference between pseudo-science and REAL science dontcha know. Then there is ANTI-science which is rife on this post. Is THAT the camp where you've pitched your tent? If so then you'd better be scared. Things are gonna get much worse.
Go ahead and defend the mockery of "virus isolation" that the entire field of virology is established upon. Based on the complete lack of meeting this standard of isolation I do think it is accurate to say that the field of virology is primarily a speculative and theoretical field and not scientific. Pour through the criticisms with an open mind and deal with what the dissidents bring to the table instead of spewing, "anti-science", "pseudo-science" while defending assumptions with a foundation based in quicksand. Don't bother me with empty platitudes that assume you're right when you don't seem to offer anything other than insults. Just like Dr. Nass did with this post, all you do is make a mockery of your position by exhibiting a closed-minded attitude that deserves zero respect. Watch 'The Viral Delusion'. Do I think they're right about everything? Probably not, but they're doing serious critique and exposing issues that the institutions cannot afford to deal with, and what I do know is that the current medical/scientific institutional establishment is rife with corruption and fraud and it just gets more and more obvious that it's largely garbage and not about science at all. Good day.
Oh really? I wonder what you'll be saying when that super bioweapon bug crawls up your anti-scientific ass and only pus extrudes from where your words used to. Delusion is what you and your fellow cultists engage in. WTFU and smell the VIROLOGY dude.
pseudoscience - a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method
https://www.grist4themill.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Science-Versus-Scientism.png
You have nothing which is based on the scientific method.
Lol.
Mirror meet Kordelas.
I am open to other theories of disease (or anything else) but proponents need to show that they can both explain existing data and experience better than the virus theory and offer substantially better health outcomes.
There are plenty of flaws in the vaccination regime we have been under for the past several decades but that does not necessarily mean virology itself is based on a false premise.
We cannot really see atoms either but the theory of atomic nuclei has allowed us to build workable nuclear power and weapons and therapy. Recently there have been refinements of what an electron is, but it doesnt change the fact that electricity works.
Viruses have been photographed since the 1940s with the tobacco mosaic virus, which was also the first virus ever identified in the late 1800s. Nor can a virus be "bred" since it isn't a living organism- just a "package" of mRNA or DNA.
Yes, we transferred these viruses from plant to plant when I was in college.
The fact that none of the many virus naysayers posting here have answered any of my questions suggests to me they are not serious contenders, but most are getting paid to post nonsense.
The sheer number of posts by each no-virus advocate suggests rabid motivation. That comes either from being paid, or from the fervor of proselytizing as part of a cult. Can you people offer any other explanation for why you don't just say your peace and go away? You keep beating a dead horse.
You can easily shut them up by providing irrefutable evidence of biological viruses.
Why you can't do this?
Well stated, David.
"Rabid motivation" - yes - that's it! I was trying to figure out why such a barrage of venomous , vicious attacks is being posted. and all from - frankly - seemingly INSANE people! (It reminds me a littel of Don Lemon's stream of vicious attacks on the unvaxxed! ) You have hit the nail on the head, I think! :)
<3 only person in the discussion we know for a fact gets money to post is you, Meryl . And this is the only instance I’d qualify a post of yours as nonsense although I’m sure my assessment isn’t of any importance.
Why is positing for money your only explanation for the no virus people and why is it bad in that context but not your own?
Honestly question: which industry or big whale is going to pay comments for the most unpopular health freedom narrative? Why would they target your Substack as opposed to being real subscribers .
I am not only not getting paid nor seeking it but maybe I’m just dumb but I haven’t the slightly clue as to who would pay for my posting on this topic in comments.
Why does it have to be a conspiracy of sorts to make sense to you ? Bob does this too. Quick to insinuate conspiracy or chaos agents or some other such thing rather than individuals expressing themselves in earnest.
So even if it’s a small list I’d be curious.
By contrast I submit there’s innumerable sources of funding for authors coralling people safely inside the viroLIEgie paradigm
So what gives and I’ll max out my subscription to you if you lead me to a payday (I am very poor and while this is tongue and cheek hey if ever I’ll keep my word). If I got paid to express what i think anyways but at “dark chaos agent rates “ I’d sign up so long as it didn’t force content to post or otherwise sacrifice any principles I hold dear ;3
423 commenters in under 12 hours, most posting rubbish. I'd say that is an army, may some bots, trolls, and almost all never posting here before.
None has answered any questions I posed: in other words, they can read off their talking points but cannot engage in a logical argument. If they cannot answer simple questions about their theory, it seems it is not their theory. They don't understand it themselves.
So are they just being proocative, or paid?
You are surprised by amount of comments. Yet you made unsubstantiated claims and still did not deliver irrefutable evidence of any biological virus.
Commenters or comments? Sounds like the latter and sounds like you have watered down your first claim of 'many naysayers'. Looks more like the small handful Alexander suggested.
How do you not understand the argument 3 years in? Again, you MUST be being stupid on purpose.
There's no theory to explain. It is a REFUTATION of a theory. The theory YOU promote, where the BURDEN OF PROOF lies with YOU.
And what do you do with that burden? Like a churlish child you say 'Im not playing with Cowen et al (ie meeting that burden) because they haven't convinced me of a singular alternate theory. As if that has anything to do with anything. Unbelievable. You are walking proof that intellect and logic don't necessarily go hand in hand.
So if those "terrain" clowns are NOT getting paid by attracting a cult following of scientifically ignorant and paranoid social media consumers, why then are they pushing their bullshit so hard? Answer: they ARE getting paid, and in the old-fashioned snake oil salesman's way, by pushing "products" and "services" on their personal websites. See how easy it was to answer all your passive-aggressive questions?
Maybe get some of the snake oil then in hopes it cleans your glasses and helps you read pdfs :3
You are the one buying snake oil dude.
I can say the same thing about you, i.e., you are getting paid to attack those who question an unsubstantiated claim about existence of biological viruses.
LOL
What is your take Alexander Howse about the idea that planet earth is flat?
Not an interest of mine and hardly a comparable topic?
So you don't know if planet earth is round or flat?
It's the same all over social media. I'm sure the pushers like Kaufman, Cowan, and the Baileys are getting paid. Not so sure if their flunky followers are also. They seem more like cultists shooting up koolaid.
Are you emotionally triggered because more people wake up to a fact that alleged biological viruses have never been proven to exist?
Be so kind and show us scientific papers for what you claim.
I would like to see how they were identified, then how their vital processes observed or how they were experimented on in a form of independent variables.
I will even pay you 50k USD for evidence that irrefutably proves them.
There is no device which is validated to photograph anything on such microscale as there is no reference material to do this.
Electron microscopy is not validated. Making up stories from such a visualization method is antiscientific and illogical.
TMV has never been proven to exist. No identification of it, no observation of it, no experimentation on it.
Existence of nucleotides has never been proven too.
There is no point discussing any of this with you since your ignorance is so vast. Another parrot. Go eat your crackers.
Your coping mechanism makes me laugh.
Keep coping because this is all you have.
Keep laughing.
I do.
I am funny thanku🖕😆
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. EVs are identical to so called viruses. Please tell us how the separate EVs prior to EM to ensure the sample is pure...
The reason there are billions of ‘viruses’ seen on electron microscopes is because what is being looked at are dead cell particles, each one different like a snowflake. However, looking at cell debris on an electron microscope and pointing out some random particle provides absolutely no proof of any pathogenic virus.
So do you want crackers with that, Polly? Parroting the terrainTARD gurus' bullshit isn't "proof" of anything, except that you can repeat bullshit. NONE of that is an accurate description of what goes on under an electron microscope or inside the human body. Exosomes DO exist, btw, but they don't contain FOREIGN RNA or DNA. And in case you weren't aware, as you obviously aren't, viruses are not "cells", but are "capsids" which "encapsuate" RNA or DNA.
No one has proven existence of nucleotides and existence of exosomes.
Breast milk contains exosomes https://www.nestlenutrition-institute.org/publication-series/human-milk-micrornasexosomes-composition-and-biological-effects
ie, lipid envelopes containing proteins, secreted by cells. Those exosomes kept you alive and healthy for awhile.
Unless you are actually a bot and not a human.
Again.
No one has proven any exosome.
No identification of anything specific.
No observation of all vital occurring processes with them.
No isolation of them.
No experimentation on them in a form of independent variables.
Keep your pseudoscientific propaganda for yourself.
I wonder if anyone pays you to spread this pseudoscientific nonsense.
I stand corrected. What I should have written is that exosomes do not carry FOREIGN RNA or DNA as do viruses.
No one has proven existence of nucleotides and existence of exosomes.
Nope. Pointing and declaring is not scientific or logical. You have no clue what is in EM images.
You can't identify, observe, isolate and experiment on them.
yes you thought, and so do innumerable others
Not trying to convert you, as that term is for religious dogma.
There are many "reasons" that sound reasonable, but are false.
The terrain theory was a Louis Pasteur deathbed admission...
No Pasteur did NOT say that. That's viral internet horseshit spread by terrainTARD cultists.
INSTEAD OF DEMONSTRATING YOU UNDERSTAND THE "NO VIRUS" POINT OF VIEW, YOU GASLIGHT AND MAKE FUN OF THEM. THAT'S NOT A DEMONSTRATION OF A GOOD SCIENTIST NOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS US TO COME TOGETHER AND NOT BE DIVIDED. YOUR RHETORIC STOPS UNDERSTANDING AND COLLABORATION NOT PROMOTES IT.
I'd say it's the great work of a coward. There is no room for debate. So, she made sure she can write some dribble without having to debate anyone. Brilliant move. You can actually learn something from this gatekeeper.
WHEN WE OBJECT TO PEOPLE'S WRITING AND POINTS OF VIEW WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T EMBODY WHAT WE OBJECT TO....WE WANT TO CALL THEM OUT IN A WAY THAT GIVES THEM ROOM TO CONSIDER THEIR WORDS AND POSITION. WE DON'T ASK PEOPLE LIKE MERYL WHO CLEARLY HAVE A PULPIT TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, JUST DEMONSTRATE THEY UNDERSTAND THE OTHER POSITIONS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO HOLD THOSE VIEWS WITHOUT NAME CALLING OR BELITTLING OR GASLIGHTING THEM. IE. THESE FOLKS WHO BELIEVE IN "NO VIRUS" BELIEVE THAT....ETC, ETC. ...AND THE SCIENCE I'M LOOKING AT DEMONSTRATES THAT VIRUS' ARE REAL BECAUSE....BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...WHILE THEIR SCIENCE SAYS THAT THE VIRUS HAS NEVER BEEN ISOLATED VIA KOCH AND THAT THEY HAVE LIVE MICROSCOPIC EVIDENCE THAT CELLS MORPH INTO VIRUS' IN THE BODY..BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...THAT'S HOW A RESPECTFUL AND PRINCIPLED DISCUSSION MIGHT GO. RESPECTFULL OF ALL.
Forget about Koch's postulates as he only used logic and called it postulates. Stick to logic and what comes from it, i.e., scientific method.
THIS WAS AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE FORM OF AN ARGUMENT....NOT AN ACTUAL ARGUMENT...SO PUT AWAY YOUR GUNS AND DEBATE KOCH WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
I intentionally make Koch insignificant because he did not create logic.
If I would call logic "kordelas' postulates", it would be pathetic.
You're being rather silly and overreacting to what I consider a necessary statement to wake people up to the fraud being perpetrated in order to confuse and control us. I was "respectful" of these charlatans and controlled ops at the beginning when they emerged in full force in 2020. But after repeated failed attempts to get them to explain certain pertinent details of their "theories" it became clear they were being driven by an agenda and were totally disingenuous actors. They don't DESERVE any respect any more than NAZIS or KKK monsters do and it is a big mistake to give them any benefit of doubt. They should be confronted then summarily dismissed at every opportunity.
all caps is online shouting and rude
And YOU are the arbiter of online etiquette or just a virtue signalling KAREN?
When you are a snarker, there is a molecule of intelligence that is not evident when you are printing get out of jail passes for the medical cartel virus hunters...
Shouting is rude, did not make the rules.
But you're trying to "enforce" them like a good little brown shirt NAZI.
Stop shouting, please.
LOL BECAUSE IT HURTS YOUR EARS?
Because it's rude.
Because you're a PRUDE.
At this point I just ignore or block them. Its a religion much like Covidianism. If you believe there is no virus then the scientists who engineered the virus committed no crime in your mind. If you believe WIV engineered the virus then the US scientists who engineered the virus are off the hook. Get it?
https://pete843.substack.com/p/the-blobs-manhattan-project-and-defuse
What scientists are making is toxins that they then inject claiming they will be productive against some ‘disease’ they have also made up.
Has the toxin been isolated and the paper published?
Funny how government and scientists in China and Russia have gone along with the conspiracy for 100 years even during the Cold War and still playing along with it today.
I usually ignore/block them too but I thought it would be entertaining to engage with them one last time and also help increase the activity and reach of this post. Because I so admire the work of Dr Nass and deplore the treatment she's received both by her own profession and the captured mainstream media.
Show me at least one scientific paper that proves bio viruses.
According to the “no virus” claim, even immunology is a scandal. It’s better to get a clear confirmation from a group of super knowledgeable “no virus truthers”.
No virus claim is a claim that existence of viruses is not proven to exist and that the burden of proof is on those who have made a claim that viruses exist as per logic. I and others did our research and no one is able to prove them. Even government institutions from around the world are unable to do this.
All research papers we have seen do not prove any virus as well.
https://viroliegy.com/
Yes, immunology is pseudoscience and genetics as well as they are not based on logical observations and scientific method.
You do talk some rubbish!
@kordelas Actually you and your gang are here to tell us that the germ theory or bacteria infections are lies, am I right?
I am not a part of any gang. But I am here to find out if you and your ilk has any prove of alleged viruses. And to debunk pseudoscientific nonsense.
Yes, no one has proven any infectious disease and that bacteria can cause any disease.
Can you show me a scientific paper that proves existence of biological viruses?
The only proof you would accept is having a virus big enough for you to see coming up to you and say “ Howdy? I am a big virus and I really do exist. My tiny brothers and sisters are all around you”
There are hundreds of thousands of papers and many millions of uploaded sequences. There is much more evidence as well. Meanwhile your crew have not isolated the toxins and shown scientifically how they are responsible for the various diseases attributed to various infectious diseases except in very general terms
https://pete843.substack.com/p/debunking-virus-denial-bump?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web
His type wouldn't admit to such a proof until it devoured him and his last gasp would be "I do believe in germ theory". Naw, maybe not even then.
Are you crying because you can't prove viruses?
I accept a direct real time observation of all vital occurring processes or experimentation on independent variable.
Amount of papers does not prove that something is true or false.
I do not have to isolate anything or to show anything what causes symptoms as it is not my argument and logic does not require me to do this.
And clearly you did not prove any virus or existence of nucleotides in your link.
The burden is still on you.
You couldnt possibly have read the link in that short time. Blocking in 1,2,3…
I can see that there is nothing clearly proven to be a virus in your article and your coping mechanism (blocking) is not going to change it.
https://viroliegy.com/
LMFAO! Here is another Dell Bigtree fan. This takes the prize. You just got first prize for making a fool of yourself
Completely shameful post that uses the exact methods of the abusers who are destroying everything they can as they attempt to push us into a total control system. Slander and ad hominem attacks to bypass debate and any prospect of measured thought and reason. Sorry, Dr. Nass, if this is your attitude you would get totally schooled by Dr. Kaufman or Dr. Cowan and perhaps get a real education, but I guess name calling is easier, and therefore RFK Jr is just a crazy anti-vaxxer. Unsubscribing
Bye
You're clearly making good money from people you've misled if you're not worried about all the unsubs you're getting from this garbage.
Since what I’m writing is garbage, why don’t you unsubscribe also?
I'd say it's the great work of a coward. There is no room for debate. So she made sure she can write some dribble without having to debate anyone. Brilliant move. You can actually learn something from this gatekeeper.
She's doing great work in trying to bring awareness to the WHO agenda, but I've no reason to stay subscribed to her after this because it does raise serious questions. I do enjoy seeing how many people have come forth in opposition to this tactic and position and hopefully this has some impact.
Meryl did ask for a debate. So far as she has pointed out no one has answered her question.
This is not debate and only someone understudied on the topic would think it is.
I can debate her. And I already answered her question.
What are your scientific /medical qualifications?
Are you trying to commit appeal to authority and genetic logical fallacies instead of addressing my arguments?
But my organization says that I am a champion scientist and champion medical doctor.
Can you say the same about yourself and Meryl?
LOL . what does a "a champion scientist and champion medical doctor." mean in terms of medical/scientific qualifications?
"champion" is just an unqualified adjective.
And what is your organization?
I expect you can look up Meryl's qualifications. I have a Masters in IT from the University of Liverpool plus a few Bachelor of Science degrees from other UK Universities. I have no medical training , but am quite well read on it as a result of the past 4 years
Omg you defend shameless, mercenary snake oil salesmen neither of whom is trained in microbiology or virology because your ridiculous cult has been called out! Who would want YOU as a subscriber? Wait. The cult is looking for you. Go where you belong.
Good! We need more on this. I think it is a psy op, like the "flexible sex" claims that conflate the biology of sex with the psychology of gender identity, which is so aggressively being promoted to lots of gullible people.
"You think" - You see the problem here? People touting a msg they know absolutely nothing about the subject.
If you really want to know here is a good starting point:
https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence
OK, I skimmed through it. I am not a scientist but pay attention to those who are. Whether the contagion is by virus or bacteria is of little concern to me. What most concerns me is the denial of contagion! How do you explain rabies and tuberculosis? What about the reality of Lyme disease? My REAL concern is how medical science has been weaponized and the political implications we have seen in the past three years. Clearly one's immune capacity(terrain) plays a major role on whether and to what extent a person falls ill. But what is it that triggers the illness under your perspective?
What you see in that article is every single attempt at proving transmission of a viral agent over the last 2 centuries. Every single one of them failed.
What I can say for sure is that anyone who wants to make an attempt at telling you why you are sick is most likely a grifter trying to sell you some magic potion. No one knows your lifestyle and the environment you expose yourself to. There is a plethora of poisons you expose yourself to on a daily basis. As soon as your realize it's not a virus making you sick you can actually start to focus on what's really making you sick. Here is an example - https://www.bitchute.com/video/v4XVOacLQD2Y/
Granted there are many things, as cited in this (appreciatively SHORT) video that negatively affect health. But apparently you still think there is no such thing as contagion? Again, what about rabies and tuberculosis?
What Really Makes You Ill? Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease Is Wrong https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11fr3240dk&hl=en-ZA&q=What+Really+Makes+You+Ill?+Why+Everything+You+Thought+You+Knew+About+Disease+Is+Wrong&kgs=ba30269114ae7c24&shndl=17&shem=opto&source=sh/x/kp/osrp/m5/2
Rabies and tuberculosis have not been addressed specifically. In those regards, do you still reject contagion causation? I intend not to pursue this any further.
Effects do not prove what caused them.
Also no one has proven existence of immune system.
They (human-pathogenic viruses) didn't just fail the "no viruses" isolation requirements. They all fail, and always have, virology's standards for isolation (of the *causative* agent of disease) which are Koch's postulates, still referenced in virology textbooks. Even with the modification accepted that "viruses" are obligate parasites and must be grown in cell culture and not pure culture, no "virus" has ever passed the first postulate since they are detected in *healthy* and sick hosts. Meaning there isn't even established a consistent correlation with a specific disease, let alone the establishment of causation. Not long after virologists figured this out, the theory of specific immunity tries to explain that we don't get sick because our immunes systems defend and destroy the virus. But then, in contradiction, they claim that the viruses (which, mind you, have no brain nor metabolism and have supposedly only one function) go dormant and can be "carried" for many years.
This is not to say these particles and their genetic sequences aren't necessarily being detected or viewed via EM. But that their ability to CAUSE disease cannot be established from current evidence.
Also, from current evidence it's impossible to discard the possiblility that they may be beneficial, possibly symbiotic, helpful in removing or cleaning up after the actual cause of the disease and thus are found after the course of a disease has started. Much like when I dump waste into a compost bin, I'm likely to find a slew of microbes afterward, breaking it all down to something that is not harmful.
Virology has established that the role of viruses in general is to control microbial populations. They save us from bacterial and algal takeover. It's entirely possible, given the scarce effort expended in eliminating other possible causes (including microbial) for many so-called viral diseases, that the detected particles may indeed be putting out the fire and not starting it. The original SARS-Cov-2 isolation paper documented that the researchers tested for the presence of a whopping 4 bacteria and 18 known viruses before deciding that the cause of the atypical pneumonia was most likely a novel "virus". 4 bacteria!
The researchers are ignoring broader virology and the known behavior of viruses in relation to other microbial life by neglecting the more obvious hypothesis that they may be simply performing their most common function in nature. No efforts are made to discard this once a suspicion is made of a "viral" cause of illness.
Do you see the problem?
Separately, controls in these experiments, often referred to as "mock-infection" is never discussed in any paper in a way that the methodology could be held to account or reproduced.
The point is that the evidence is very weak and even contradictory in some cases for the claims made.
And separately, viral "contagion", the idea that illness can be spread from one person to another via respiratory droplets, saliva, liquid from pustules, as a hypothesis has failed every controlled experiment that's tested it. There hasn't been an effort to even test it again with more modern and sensitive equipment and methods in many decades.
However, this disagreement doesn't have to make anyone angry.
Most people believe tons of nonsense that isn't based on objective fact and we still find ways to get along.
Virus "affirmers'" claims lack strong evidence. There simply needs to be more work done. Virus deniers choose not to put stock in an unproven narrative because they have seen the holes in the evidence, and the affirmers' never seem to want to be questioned or defend or fill in the holes.
Koch’s postulates don’t require the disease-causing agent to be sufficient to cause the disease, only that it be necessary. Go back to introductory logic class to understand what this means.
A reference for that please?
Hopefully Koch or someone else explains it a little better...
A living host is necessary for disease, doesn't make it causative. Oxygen is usually necessary, doesn't make it casuative of disease. Candida is a healthy part of everyone's microbiome, but when it gets associated with a certain pathogenesis, it's pretty clear in the current evidence that this is due to a problem with the host (terrain) and not the ubiquitous yeast species.
Some logic is useful. But pure logic without properly informed context can lead one to erroneous ideas.
Combustible matter may "contribute" to a fire but that doesn't make it the cause.
A dense or sharp object may be necessary to puncture one's abdomen, but the existence of them is not considered the cause of stabbings.
Etc. Etc.
Medical science is widely and loudly claiming that, via allopathic interventions targeted at these "viruses"… we will be free of the diseases they allegedly cause. This is a very strong and now, clearly, dangerous claim that is not well-founded in evidence produced via the careful application of the scientific method.
Also, it hasn't been showed by any type of randomized prospective trial to work in practice for any "virus". Another strike against the theory.
Also, most so-called pathogenic bacteria have yet to fulfill Koch's postulates. It's not just viruses.
Forget about Koch. Stick to logic and scientific method.
Koch's postulates are irrelevant. He just used some logic and called it postulates.
Logic itself and scientific method which comes form logic are what matter.
I delivered a bunch of logic in this thread. But logic without context can lead to harmful ideas.
Here's all the logic one needs:
Have they done experiments to rule out other potential causes of disease? Environmental toxins? (Nope) Increased solar radiation from solar cycles, flares and winds weakening Earth's shields? (Nope) 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G EMFs, radar, did they study any of their long-term or short term effects on humans? (Nope) Pesticides (Nope) Algal blooms, fungal spores, baterial responses to such and associated prevalence. (Nope) ANYTHING else? (Nope)
So have they really narrowed it down to viruses? (Highly unlikely)
However, the field of virology (the topic of debate here) does claim to rely on Koch's postulates to establish "viruses" as causes of disease. See: any current virology textbook.
Again. There is no need for Koch's stuff as logic produced the scientific method.
If anyone claims that Koch's stuff is better than logic and the SM, then the burden of proof is on them.
Also no alleged bio virus has been logically proven.
BTW I am one of those who was teaching people like you about it since the beginning of 2020 by participating in public discussions with virologists and their supporters on social media platforms.
HUH? WTF?
So BigPharma and other parties conflicted by economic interests, ought to be allowed to make the rules as they go.
Let me remind you of the purpose for peer reviewing
What is peer review?
Peer review is designed to assess the validity, quality and often the originality of articles for publication. Its ultimate purpose is to maintain the integrity of science by filtering out invalid or poor quality articles.
https://authorservices.wiley.com/Reviewers/journal-reviewers/what-is-peer-review/index.html
You are clueless about peer review process.
It is not about verification if a research paper adheres to the scientific method.
But it is about checking if the paper agrees with established dogmas. And usually it is done by someone who is neutral or friendly to those who created the paper.
>>>>>>It is not about verification ******if a research paper adheres to the scientific method*******.<<<<<
R E P E A T I N G
Its ultimate purpose is to *****maintain the integrity of science*******
I failed to see the area of disagreement
.
SPECIFICALLY
I don't want Pfizer to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase(a) it needs another gazillion dollars
I don't want the CIA to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase it wants to destroy someone's Presidency or effectuate a color revolution
Wha's wrong with that ?.
Again.
The peer review process is not about verification if a publication adheres to the scientific method.
The integrity of science (pseudoscience) is about making sure that everything is compatible with dogmas.
pseudoscience - "a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method"
There is no such thing proven as pathogen.
Your beloved Pfizer, CIA and Statism religion can't manufacture it.
>>>>>>It is not about verification ******if a research paper adheres to the scientific method*******.<<<<<
R E P E A T I N G
Its ultimate purpose is to *****maintain the integrity of science*******
I failed to see the area of disagreement
.
SPECIFICALLY
I don't want Pfizer to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase(a) it needs another gazillion dollars
I don't want the CIA to manufacture a pathogen or disease causing entity becuase it wants to destroy someone's Presidency or effectuate a color revolution
Wha's wrong with that ?.
Again.
The peer review process is not about verification if a publication adheres to the scientific method.
The integrity of science (pseudoscience) is about making sure that everything is compatible with dogmas.
pseudoscience - "a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method"
There is no such thing proven as pathogen.
Your beloved Pfizer, CIA and Statism religion can't manufacture it.