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If this woman at Carnegie Mellon is a scientist, we are in serious trouble. She notes, “It’s more important to get folks who never got the initial vaccine series vaccinated than to get people like me to get their fifth shot".

Uhh, why? The initial vaccine was coded for the Wuhan strain, which is now, for all practical considerations, extinct. She is suggesting taking an mRNA product that will abundantly code for the most toxic spike protein simulacra of all the SARS-2 variants, yet the that virus is no longer with us.

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Not only that, she also suggests " most people make decisions based on what others in their social network do, or what their political and community leaders recommend, not on esoteric scientific data ".

Would love to see SOMEONE make decisions based on actual, honest medical data. Would be refreshing. I do NOT believe "esoteric" means "follow the narrative".

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Personally, I found her comment insulting to those of us who did make decisions based on real science. Her statement of "what political and community leaders recommend"?! How about mandate? They will never be able to back peddle the mandates as a "recommendation" like the FDA is trying to do with ivermectin.

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Esoteric doctrine (or secret paradigm) by the "Elite" has created the narrative for the "cattle" so that they will willingly follow, like they so blindly do. Exoteric doctrine (obeyed by the MSM) are for you and me, and the rest of the herd to suck up and fearfully trust.

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Oh, you aren't supposed to be a thinking friend! They were hoping you were already dumb enough to go get it now. I mean, it's not fair that she has had five and you haven't had ANY. Do you want her to carry the whole pandemic for you? Obviously, I am kidding. Well, maybe not so obvious these days. There is not one single reason on this planet using ANYONES data, even the CDC's own faulty and limited data, to get that first shot. I hope enough people are getting sick of this crap because we all have some serious work to do.

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I am sorry, by the way. I know a lot of intelligent people who got one. I don't meant they are dumb. What I mean is I think "they" want us dumb and that's why they have been lying to us and slowly poisoning us in multiple ways over time. They want us to be dumb. Clearly you were failing at that part so I am here to help you out. :) Just don't read or think and you should be good!!

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They want us uninformed and completely unable or unwilling to use any critical thinking skills. Do not ask questions! That is my interpretation of "dumb" in this scenario.

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Yep! So they can get away with controlling the world, killing off the "useless eaters" and sitting in their high-chairs (like the one year olds that they are.) But they're very dangerous, and need extraction, like a decayed molar. Not a lot of time left for simple talking about it.

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Yeah, Double yeah! Sick of hearing the 3rd graders lying through their teeth! What an insult, both physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and revolutionary! lol

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Yup! And the term “natural immunity” is completely absent from the entire article. As if infection-acquired immunity doesn’t exist and our only option is to outsource our immunity to pHARMa.

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Well said. Out source.

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She wants to eliminate the control group - the unjabbed. So it's harder to associate health harms with the genetic transfection products.

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Payed shrill

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She probably had Dr. Mommy and Daddy do her science fair project to get her into a good college and then cheated her way through college.

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why?

you gave the answer....

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November 26, 2022
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Truly. I got covid a year ago, unvaxxed. While it wasn't fun, I have only had a few sniffles since but nothing more than a day or two. That is the extent of "waning immunity from prior infection" because immunity against coronaviruses isn't ironclad (it's predominantly cellular not humoral) so yes..you might get a mild cold from time to time and this is no more than a cold at this point (the allergic response to the original spike, and it's similar offshoots, appears to have been the main driver of severity, not the virus and that protein is rare at this point in the wild). Do these experts honestly know so little about immunology? And have they ever talked to someone in the real control group? Honestly, it's ludicrous.

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Well, once "authority" is gained, expertise can be and always is, done away with. It's a planned ordeal from the start. WAAAAY back when, long before even the advent of any type of vaccines, the food industry gained authority to oversee itself, and when concerned "experts" confronted the big players, they were either ignored, fired, killed, or slandered. Business as usual. It's the way of evil. Truth has no place it can rest its head. Not until the Lord returns from heaven. Heaven's books are records for all to see what's happened TRUTHFULLY behind the scenes.

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I think she needs imprisonment. And then, administer her sixth booster! (We need all the prison space we can get!) lol

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How could those 8 mice have been wrong?

Or were they rats? I forget

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They were demoRats

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A wonderful, loving, kind, sweet friend was the ONLY person to check on me daily when I was caregiving and when I had covid. He wrote me a beautiful letter when my mother died. He is a Democrat and he worker his way out of poverty in a bad neighborhood raised by a junkie mom and an ex con dad. He has had four shots. The day he dies suddenly is the day I put a bullet in my head.

Fantasizing and laughing about people dying and dehumanizing them by comparing them to dead test animals is something that Nazis did, man.

I regret my 3 shots I spent every free second reading about them and trying to wake my loved ones up. I only got them because my sister had a cardiac arrest after a "mild" covid case in March 2020 and a dissection in her brainstem in July 2020. She still can't taste 3 years on and needs infliximab infusions to stand and walk. I have Lupus and was my mom's caregiver. I was frightened. If that means I deserve to be laughed if I die at bc I voted D in my twenties before I realized elections were fake, then so be it.

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Cait, thank you for writing out your story. You have reminded us of something important, to not lose our compassion, to remember how easy it is to objectify the other guy.

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I am sorry if you were offended by my word,

These folks put me in jail, ScKamala , after I ran against Gavin.

Solitary isolation for me 2007-8

For us all 2020

Please don't be offended

I am terribly sorry you. Were injected, the latest song I wrote is for your struggle,

First line

Did you get injected...

Still finishing song

Please be well

Melatonin helps me, occasionally, very mild

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Thank you. I wasn't offended, it just bugs me to see any dehumanizing talk. I got the shots and I regret them and am terrified. But I never demonized or laughed at or wished death on unvaxed.

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Cait

I had a nice visit to solitary after ran for mayor against Gavin, whom I have called gravel threesome and useless nuisance.

I employ language as the only sword I have, and song.

Words I use and sometimes create

Harmacide, big Harma hacksxxxine viruganda scamdemic...

Every Democrat voted for war against my homeland....

I hope you can find healing and blessings, again sorry to offend

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Again, I'm not offended.

Democrats are not communists.

They are corporate imperialists.

I'm sorry you were locked up in the hole. No communist I am aware of supports Newsom or Harris. I certainly don't.

God bless you as well.

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...... only made left turns, in the maze ?

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They were mice - and in fact, were DEAD RIGHT.

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Mice, not rats, but WTF DIFFERENCE does THAT MAKE? We are NOT RODENTS and the human metabolism is MUCH DIFFERENT, so VOLUNTARY, FULLY INFORMED HUMAN TRIALS ARE NECESSARY BEFORE A SENSIBLE JUDGMENT for approval or NOT can be made.

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The "Rats" were the ones who ordered the experiment

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You're the best warrior, James.

If anyone is going to save us, it is you!!

Thank you

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We know who the rats are. The ones in charge of the now dead mice.

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At the end of the day, the vaccine industry is nothing better than a cult

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In the early days people printed their own money (counterfeiting) and went to jail.

Now you start a vaccine company and you vacuum up the bucks and get praised for it!

(Mental note: Start a vaccine business.)

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Better yet: Begin to grow your own herbs in pots. Learn how to naturally boost your immune system. Grow as much as possible, and the surplus, you can share with friends and neighbors. The time ahead is slated that will likely prove to be in need of natural nutrition, because of the badly degraded condition of ALL or food at the present. It might well be that many of the so called, "degenerative diseases" will be eventually recognized as deficiency syndromes. Certainly, some cerebral-type conditions, are simply a block and thereby a deficiency of O2 to a specified location in the brain, but what if there is a specific micro-nutrient lacking, such as boron. Does anyone actually know what that would lead to? The best way to ensure you're getting all the goods, is to eat a wide variety of fruits and veggies. Organic, of course, or your circulatory and lymphatic system will be dealing with chemical poisoning.

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“We should not spend a lot of political capital trying to get people to get this bivalent booster, because the benefits are limited,” she added. “It’s more important to get folks who never got the initial vaccine series vaccinated than to get people like me to get their fifth shot.”

Bizarre premise, that people need to start building immunity to BQ and beyond by taking shots one through four which do not protect the people who got shots one through four against BQ... but who might have been helped by a fifth shot against BA if only BQ hadn't spoiled it?

As though the last shot is only sprinkles on top of the frosting on top of the cake of immunity that you bake.

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Fabulous analogy!

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Excellent point

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Or maybe we could just stop the madness and treat symptoms as needed….

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With Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and relevant supplements.

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Yes. We are ‘older’ with autoimmune diseases… that is what we did.

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Thank you, Meryl, for this reporting and comments. Mind you, it could be NYT just priming the pump for the next 'miracle' procedure to ram into the public's body/mind/soul.

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Oh it absolutely is. There will have been meetings and discussions before this limited retreat was allowed.

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Listen, if you developed a system, let's say for purchasing stock and it worked flawlessly for 80 percent of the time, what would you do? Would you toss it, because of the missing 20? Would you carefully evaluate a plan to take advantage of the success, and consider the 20 as collateral damage? That's how big business works in its most simple form. The lying and the lying about the lying is all part and parcel of "just business"

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Still fired for refusing the original jab..but they’re not requiring the boosters. Lol.

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Basically my situation (denied access to the venue for performing my work). No booster required.

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Yep. This isn't about health. My situation, too.

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I’m so sorry for the employment injury!!! How have you coped?

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My job requires a rigorous health screening, which always freaked me out, like what if I lost an eye, or a finger, or got some illness?…

So I saved a 2 year emergency fund.

Been enjoying “retirement”. But looking at the money I’ve lost over the last 13 months has me pretty pissed, so I’m going to start looking for something new in a week or so.

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Are you familiar w the job boards for the unjabbed? There are several websites where you can look for jobs that don’t require jabs. I shared the list with a friend and she found a job within a couple of weeks!! It was entry level for which she is overqualified, but working w a health freedom group was more important to her.

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And all I see , no matter how much nonsence any of these so called expert, vaccine stooges try and propogate, is a dismally failed experiment, where even as they admit their own shortsighted, unscientific, baffoon like incompetence, malfeasance and blatant disregard for any real knowledge of any kind about dealing with what is essentially a non event of a plandemic, these idiots still seem think, " thats ok, next time we'll have a better experiment to try out, and we're quite sure, it will work better than round one.....!"their self belief in their own ability is breathtaking, their beligerant insistance, that they've got this is dumfounding, their arrogance has no boundary, yet their "stupidity" is their standout feature.....🙈

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Don't be so sure of yourself, Grant. Consider the odds that this entire campaign was simply an over-reaction to an un-armed assailant. If it were done in a town, it would be the laughing stock of the world. If it were accomplished in an entire state, it would be frightful! In an entire NATION? There MUST BE a STRONG force behind such a thing! But it gets worse! This has been conducted across the entire planet with fierce coercion, and magnificent logistical prowess!

71% of the entire population of the world, my friend, is now carrying around in their bloodstreams the "secret" ingredients of the mfg's. concoctions. Maybe you just haven't noticed yet, or have not awakened to the news re the millions affected, infected, and KILLED, by this death shot. Put away your condemnation of "their" mental capacity. It's tempting to think along those lines, but it's the wrong tree to bark up. Besides, "barking" does absolutely no good at all.

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Look up Red Kahina, Club Des Cordeliers, & K0ba on Twitter. All communists. All against the shots. Please don't use words as slurs until you know for sure what they mean.

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Can you tell me where thepro Vax pro mrna authoritarians eschew commodity fetishization? Where they favor use and labor value over market value? Where they are against imperialism? They LOVE imperialism because they support Zelensky in Ukraine. They LOVE Market value which is why they gut the working class and suppress anything bad about the shots so that only their ads air. They aren't communists. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the word communism means.

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Very odd you think I support Zelenzky. I was one of the few I know calling out the coup under Obama. Assuming makes an ass out of u and me.

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*tenets

Wasn't it free-market capitalism writ large that most of the reigning oligarchs used to acquire their wealth and hence power? And isn't it free-market capitalism writ large that rides roughshod over national and personal sovereignty?

It seems that proud advocates of every political position want to co-opt the current crisis to shore it up.

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The greatest crime and scam in world history!

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The only thing they can’t admit is there a strategy is a total failure. Look at Africa

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Hard pass on all! If I get sick, oh well...if I get super sick, IVM. Not to jinx myself-- but haven’t followed any of their orders and haven’t felt crappy since a 12-hour temp in June 2020. It’s insane that people still fear this. Images of vents and body bags are stuck in their heads.

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Marks is a pimp for whichever pharmaceutical company is buying him at present. When he was asked about a reporting system for adverse events, etc...he blew it off and said they had something in place but needed to roll out the untested bivalent in order to get data into that system. Lovely

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We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in the bill.

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Let's appoint a committee to oversee the passing of that bill you mentioned!

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dr. nass you might find this interesting. copied from another post.

Today I found this study. It shows that about 20% of athletes had a massive decline in VO2max levels following their booster vaccination. The authors explained the consequences of this effect are still unknown. What you think about it, which consequences could this have?

Abstract:

Background and Aims

The goal of the present study was to systematically evaluate the effect of a booster vaccination with the BNT162b2 messenger RNA (mRNA; Pfizer-BioNTech®) vaccine on maximum oxygen uptake (VO2max), potential signs of (peri)myocarditis, and sports participation.

Methods

Recreational athletes who were scheduled to undergo booster vaccination were evaluated with transthoracic echocardiography, serum measurements of high-sensitivity C-reactive protein(hsCRP) and high-sensitivity troponin I, and a bicycle cardiopulmonary exercise test (CPET) with serum lactate evaluation before the booster vaccine administration. Seven days postvaccination the test battery was repeated. Additionally, the subjects were asked to fill in a questionnaire on side effects and a subjective evaluation of their relative training volume and intensity as compared to the weeks before vaccination.

Results

A group of 42 analysed athletes showed a statistically significant 2.7% decrease in VO2max after vaccination (mean standard error of mean pre: 48.6 (1.4) ml/kg/min; post: 47.3 (1.4) ml/kg/min; p = 0.004). A potentially clinically relevant decrease of 8.6% or more occurred in 8 (19%) athletes. Other CPET parameters and lactate curves were comparable. We found no serological or echocardiographic evidence of (peri)myocarditis. A slight but significant increase in hsCRP was noted 1 week after vaccination. Side effects were mild and sports participation was generally unchanged or mildly decreased after vaccination.

Conclusion

In our population of recreational endurance athletes, booster vaccination with the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine resulted in a statistically significant decrease in VO2max 7 days after vaccination. The clinical impact hereof needs to be further determined. No major adverse events were observed.

Source:

Miljoen H, Bekhuis Y, Roeykens J,et al. Effect of BNT162b2 mRNA booster vaccination on VO2max in recreational athletes: a prospective cohort study Health Sci Rep. 2022;5:e929.

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I was told 14 months ago that athletes were performing worse after the jab. I think it is real. Just think what lots of micro clots everywhere can do. Then consider the other toxicities of this shot...

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Looking at the thesis, in short, it is a conclusion that it is good to be vaccinated because it is not a big deal.

However, in the CONFLICTS OF INTEREST column(I hope there are no lies in this column), the two received funding from Pfizer.

After all, they wear money collars.

When it comes to clinical trial papers, there are a lot of things that we should be careful about.

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It seems the New York times is following the herd in order to stay relevant. If more people were taking this useless booster, would they have written an article in this way?

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I am wondering if this article is the first roll out of a new, approved narrative to quietly sweep the original shot and the boosters under the rug (“nevermind!”) to make way for The Next Shot. Sounds like they are already cooking up a variant-proof idea. In the article, Dr. Moore says, “what we need is better vaccine designs.” It’s an endless pursuit that will continue as long as people are scared or coerced into being experimental mice.

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There's NO experimentation going on here! It's premeditated mayhem, murder, and they're not satisfied with just adults, they're going after your children! I'd use the term "blind bat" but bats are great at navigating in the dark using sonar.

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interesting idea expressed by ms. chapman of carnegie, a health behaviour expert (sounds like a Goebbels health advisor) “It’s more important to get folks who never got the initial vaccine series vaccinated than to get people like me to get their fifth shot.”

these people will never give it up ...

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Do these people know how completely ridiculous they sound? The ironic thing is that they view themselves as “the science”.

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One of the most strategically effective accusations a liar can accuse his opponent of is lying.

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"Diminishing returns from tinkering with the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines call for a new approach to protecting Americans altogether, Dr. Moore and other experts said. "Chasing variants by tweaking the mRNA vaccines is not a sustainable strategy, Dr. Moore said. “There’s a need for better vaccine designs, but that needs a change of attitude at the government level.” No kidding! Okay, so if this really is about keeping ppl out of the hospital, let's try IVERMECTIN. It stopped the plandemic in Japan, Peru, Mexico and worked wonders in Uttar Pradesh. And maybe it's finally time to stop all of the damned lying and actually HELP people instead of murdering them.

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