I guess pretending that a baby younger than 21 weeks isn't human, alive, and feels pain is what helps these people sleep at night. Abortion is murder, whether it's at 1 week or 40 weeks. We need to do better to help prevent so many unwanted pregnancies in the first place (by raising morality standards; keeping families together to raise their children; after school programs to give teens confidence and somewhere to go, etc) and do a better job at options for an "inconvenient" baby once they are born.
I just realized that 21 weeks is 5 months plus one week. 4 weeks is one month. My God a 5 month old fetus is totally a human infant as is 1 month. And believe you me, I understand how an unwanted pregnancy can reek havoc in a woman's life. Yet, unless the mother's life is as stake, save the child.
That's a very tall order that cannot be done in four years. If Trump is able to chip away at this monstrosity of moral responsibility and unbroken families who's to say that the next one won't dismantle it. Just wiping abortion off the board will not work and will cause so many other problems, you possibly can't even begin to realize. It's safer to keep abortion. I believe in the viability argument. It's lesser evil when there's so much evil that is prevailing in the world. It will take several terms of concerted effort to turn the tide and help people appreciate the gift of life, but until then viability in my personal opinion is the safest and best approach. people that think it's murder after one week are going to have people fleeing to other states to get abortions and needless and quite frankly, not based reality. Wake up!
well said. Yes, this issue is broad and deep, and there is no quick or simple solution. I of course do not want to see back alley abortions happening. I have compassion, especially for the teens and the unwed who are terrified of the consequences of having sex outside of marriage. We need to do better, as a whole, as a society. This isn't the responsibility of the government, but yet we need some oversight in order to also protect the unborn. We also need to give the fathers more rights. This is not only a "woman's issue. " It takes a man to make a baby and he should have a say in what happens to his unborn child. And he should be held responsible financially as well.
Use of Biological specimens from abortions need to be a crime and culturally unacceptable. My thought is that there is a profitable business incentive that is not commonly believed behind opening abortions upto birth. Project veritas undercover video of several years ago showed negotiating a sell of fetal parts taken such a way to preserve viability of organs and usable stem cells opened my mind to medical research as evil. As a research scientist I have never practiced animal research which should be banded as well. I look forward to a world when we stop injecting kids pets babies that hopefully will lead to a healthier population so that animal research can go away. I hope future scientists will see research on primates ect.. such as neuro link unthinkably immoral.
The sale of organs taken from live aborted fetuses has apparently been done by Planned Parenthood for many years. I watched an undercover video a few years ago of a California Planned Parenthood executive and a would-be buyer of fetal organs discussing price. If memory serves, in defending her prices, the executive said “I need a Lamborghini.”
Yeah, I may have gotten project veritas incorrect. It does sound like that was the video I saw that awoken me to this evil lucrative side of abortion generated biologicals.
Congratulations to the USA for bringing reality and common sense back to your politics! Hopefully Trump can get Facebook to stop censoring the TRUTH? Then remove corruption from your (FDA) Food and Medical industries.
The evil medical industry needs such body parts to trial Modified diseases and poisonous injections on!
I'm just surprised the margin wasn't far greater considering the pathetic opposition with their 'lame duck' and their Woke policies that align with the WEF's New World Order who want us as SLAVES!
At last Common Sense returns to the USA - for the time being! I'm not a massive Trump fan but he's a lot closer to reality than the other WEF controlled wimps. I thought the US election was about who can cheat the ballot best? I may have been mislead?
Good for Dana White and other realists like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. I've been an MMA fan since first watching WEC and then UFC going back to around 1997. In the UK TV Bravo were the first to televised this sport and I got hooked immediately. Then came 'Spike TV'.
Make Pfizer LIABLE for all injuries and DEATHS caused by their injections! = More Common Sense!
Rock on RFK (jr). Go get 'em!
Unjabbed Mick (UK) We'll all live longer without corrupted medics who need more of us to be unwell = PROFIT!
I like what Elon Musk was saying on the campaign trail that American young women have been brainwashed I think that having a baby will ruin their lives.
It was not Project Veritas that exposed the profitable selling of fetal parts by Planned Parenthood. It was an organization named Center for Medical Progress. Oddly (but not really oddly…predictable), Planned Parenthood was never prosecuted for these crimes, but instead the founder of the group and his “accomplice” were charged with multiple felonies in both Texas and California. Kamala Harris played a part in this in California. The fetal experimentation industry is huge and profitable but flies well under the radar. Whistleblowers testify that it is not unusual for live babies, aborted by the induction method, to be surgically incised, without anesthesia, to obtain fresh and usable organs. Im sick of all the excuses for abortion. Abortion is not compassionate for mother or baby. It is just another population control method and women, starting in elementary school, are indoctrinated to think that killing their babies is no more serious than cutting their toenails, prior to which they are taught that it’s ok to have sex at 14 “if they feel ready”; obviously a set up from Planned Parenthood to make more and more money to terminate these unwanted pregnancies out of “ compassion”. Please WAKE UP!
It’s barbaric, and we are ignorant to think that a country that is so adoring of killing its own children will not pay a very steep price for this in one way or another.
I have to say that I completely agree with you, although I don't know if it's based in reality in our current state of the world. Definitely should make it illegal for any sales of fetal body parts, Oh my God, I didn't know that existed, but I would personally like to be on the team that goes after these black market sales which I'm sure is where it's taking place.
It's an old medical model to test on creatures so I don't know that we can do without it at this point completely because people and change.
I truly believe the answer is to make your own products for the home. I personally never buy any body care products from a store. I am about 98% free of using chemicals in the home.
If everyone did this, we could eliminate most animal testing and **dry up** these corporations that keep coming out with new products that we definitely do not need because it's just more of the same garbage lining the shelves. I am just hoping and praying, really, the RFK Jr. can expose these corporations and how supporting them by consuming their products is WHY we are in our current health crisis.
Always support local, cottage and small businesses and family farms and community gardens wherever possible and make your own products for the home from simple ingredients that are tried and true!
It shouldn’t have been a divisive issue but in practice it was. Abortion had a huge effect on the vote because low-information voters like my wife and the wives of my two nearest neighbors all voted for Kamala because of the lies she and the MSM told about Trump “taking away abortion.”
As you point out that’s a complete lie, but all three women voted for Kamala to “protect reproductive rights” (i.e. abortion). I’m sure millions of other high income white women voted the same way this election. Dupes like them were one of Kamala’s last bastions of support among voters.
Fortunately, voters who took their civic duty more seriously and did the research prevailed and Trump has won a truly historic victory.
Last Friday I made an emotionally neutral statement while sharing a ride to work that "some polls indicate Trump will probably win." We are Canadians. Emotional attachments to US election outcomes is pointless. My friend was triggered and exploded at me with "Do you want desperate girls and women to have NO access to contraception, morning-after pills or legal safe abortion? Because that's what Trump will do!" I was taken aback at the vehemence but said calmly, "SCOTUS put that decision back on individual states, so it is not up to any president." That response didn't sit well with her and after getting even more furious about the fascist bias of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices she angrily berated me as a Trump lover, though I only ever said, all these months, that I would vote for Kennedy if I could. Abortion access is part of our funded health care system. So is euthanasia now. I wanted to point out that Canadian girls and women still can't get an abortion in the province of Prince Edward Island because the conservative government there has severely restricted doctors from providing them. They have to go to another province and pay out of pocket. Indigenous women in the north can't have their babies in their own communities but have to be flown to southern cities to live away from their older children, friends and families for the last six weeks of their pregnancies, because there are no hospitals, doctors, midwives or NICU where they live. But I kept my mouth shut.
Abortion until fetal viability is what makes sense and appears to be what the majority of Americans
want.
Wrong, it's mass murdering of our most innocent.
“Abortion is an act of worship to Satan.”
Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
Abortion is far and away the leading cause of death worldwide. Humanity is ruthlessly mass murdering the most innocent amongst us. This desecration of the miracle of life in the womb is beyond nightmarish it is demonic. According to the World Health Organization, every year in the world there are around 73 million induced abortions. This corresponds to approximately 200,000 abortions per day, that’s 8,333 an hour, 139 every minute, and 2.3 each second. Take a minute or so, to fully comprehend the enormity of evil we are letting happen sink in.
The immorality of what we are doing is beyond unconscionable, yet most seem to feel little or no remorse about it. Thou shalt not kill. Is there something people don't understand about the Sixth Commandment? I do not believe in government-sanctioned killing, whether it be abortion, capital punishment, or being drafted into a war.
There have been about 66,000,000 abortions in the United States, since the despicable Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision on January 22, 1973, that approved this genocidal mass murder, called infanticide.
Abortion is a form of population control while being an excuse for not taking responsibility at the same time. That is why Marxist dems love it. Lets ask the 60 million aborted babies over the last 50 years in the US what they think. Come on A/I, now's your time to really shine and actually provide something of value.
I really like the viability discussion, because it is so ridiculous. So let me understand the argument. A less than 21 week old cannot support itself outside the womb, or live without intervention. Is that right? Whelp, if it is right or close, riddle me this. How does a baby born at 9 months support itself or live/survive without intervention by another human? Or is it just that the intervention or support for a human can ONLY come from the mother (who doesn’t want to be one). ? Make me understand. The arguments are all bullshit. It IS a life in the next x number of weeks and it will still and for a long time not be viable on its own. We are still murdering life before 21 weeks. The baby is alive on day 1, whether we want to consider it so legally or not. On day 1 if you add 22 weeks it is alive. On day 1 if you add 40 weeks it is definitely breathing earths air through its own nose, but still MUST have the same support from a grown human as the not yet born baby. Wake up people.
Here in New Mexico, two Democrats campaigned 95% on the abortion issue and both won, NM being a abortion until born state would never outlaw abortion in any way, yet the voters seemed to be all in on the abortion issue. How can there be that many sex crazed people who want unprotected sex with no restraints? There was a good meme on X showing a lone woman standing away from the destroyed city from the nuclear holocaust saying, "at least we have abortion"
In most cases, that's correct. But even according to the founding fathers, one of the very few jobs of the federal government is to uphold the rights of the citizens so if some states are choosing to legalize the murder of a particular group of people, the federal government should step in and prevent that from happening.
I don't think that's remotely controversial, and neither is the undeniable scientific fact that a human is always a human at every stage of development. So, what we're arguing about here is which humans possess personhood and which don't. And that's a dark road indeed.
Yes, but even there the wisdom of the Founding Fathers was impeccable. Those matters not directly regulated under the Constitution were retained by the States. BUT under the 3 branches of Government established, an Independent judiciary could and does engage in matters of interpretation outside of the influence of politicians or the executive branch.
The Constitution and BOR are truly remarkable documents at the pinnacle of human achievement. As a non-American I have always been in awe of them.
The Constitution doesn’t grant rights, it protects “god-given” rights. I would like to see an amendment that protects bodily autonomy—especially supporting informed consent, another “god-given” right.
We have to stop supporting both orgs, UN and WHO!
The WEF is also a terrorist organization.
Get rid of all lettered agencies and/or make laws to not allow them to influence our world.
I guess pretending that a baby younger than 21 weeks isn't human, alive, and feels pain is what helps these people sleep at night. Abortion is murder, whether it's at 1 week or 40 weeks. We need to do better to help prevent so many unwanted pregnancies in the first place (by raising morality standards; keeping families together to raise their children; after school programs to give teens confidence and somewhere to go, etc) and do a better job at options for an "inconvenient" baby once they are born.
I just realized that 21 weeks is 5 months plus one week. 4 weeks is one month. My God a 5 month old fetus is totally a human infant as is 1 month. And believe you me, I understand how an unwanted pregnancy can reek havoc in a woman's life. Yet, unless the mother's life is as stake, save the child.
That's a very tall order that cannot be done in four years. If Trump is able to chip away at this monstrosity of moral responsibility and unbroken families who's to say that the next one won't dismantle it. Just wiping abortion off the board will not work and will cause so many other problems, you possibly can't even begin to realize. It's safer to keep abortion. I believe in the viability argument. It's lesser evil when there's so much evil that is prevailing in the world. It will take several terms of concerted effort to turn the tide and help people appreciate the gift of life, but until then viability in my personal opinion is the safest and best approach. people that think it's murder after one week are going to have people fleeing to other states to get abortions and needless and quite frankly, not based reality. Wake up!
well said. Yes, this issue is broad and deep, and there is no quick or simple solution. I of course do not want to see back alley abortions happening. I have compassion, especially for the teens and the unwed who are terrified of the consequences of having sex outside of marriage. We need to do better, as a whole, as a society. This isn't the responsibility of the government, but yet we need some oversight in order to also protect the unborn. We also need to give the fathers more rights. This is not only a "woman's issue. " It takes a man to make a baby and he should have a say in what happens to his unborn child. And he should be held responsible financially as well.
Great points!
Use of Biological specimens from abortions need to be a crime and culturally unacceptable. My thought is that there is a profitable business incentive that is not commonly believed behind opening abortions upto birth. Project veritas undercover video of several years ago showed negotiating a sell of fetal parts taken such a way to preserve viability of organs and usable stem cells opened my mind to medical research as evil. As a research scientist I have never practiced animal research which should be banded as well. I look forward to a world when we stop injecting kids pets babies that hopefully will lead to a healthier population so that animal research can go away. I hope future scientists will see research on primates ect.. such as neuro link unthinkably immoral.
The sale of organs taken from live aborted fetuses has apparently been done by Planned Parenthood for many years. I watched an undercover video a few years ago of a California Planned Parenthood executive and a would-be buyer of fetal organs discussing price. If memory serves, in defending her prices, the executive said “I need a Lamborghini.”
And Jon Rappoport wrote a series of stunning articles in 2021 about “murdered infants at the heart of vaccine research:” https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/18/was-covid-vaccine-fetal-tissue-obtained-by-the-murder-of-an-infant/
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/19/the-vaccine-a-religious-exemption-for-the-whole-world/
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/10/21/murdered-infants-at-the-heart-of-vaccine-research-doctors-agree/
Yeah, I may have gotten project veritas incorrect. It does sound like that was the video I saw that awoken me to this evil lucrative side of abortion generated biologicals.
Congratulations to the USA for bringing reality and common sense back to your politics! Hopefully Trump can get Facebook to stop censoring the TRUTH? Then remove corruption from your (FDA) Food and Medical industries.
The evil medical industry needs such body parts to trial Modified diseases and poisonous injections on!
I'm just surprised the margin wasn't far greater considering the pathetic opposition with their 'lame duck' and their Woke policies that align with the WEF's New World Order who want us as SLAVES!
At last Common Sense returns to the USA - for the time being! I'm not a massive Trump fan but he's a lot closer to reality than the other WEF controlled wimps. I thought the US election was about who can cheat the ballot best? I may have been mislead?
Good for Dana White and other realists like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. I've been an MMA fan since first watching WEC and then UFC going back to around 1997. In the UK TV Bravo were the first to televised this sport and I got hooked immediately. Then came 'Spike TV'.
Make Pfizer LIABLE for all injuries and DEATHS caused by their injections! = More Common Sense!
Rock on RFK (jr). Go get 'em!
Unjabbed Mick (UK) We'll all live longer without corrupted medics who need more of us to be unwell = PROFIT!
I like what Elon Musk was saying on the campaign trail that American young women have been brainwashed I think that having a baby will ruin their lives.
It was not Project Veritas that exposed the profitable selling of fetal parts by Planned Parenthood. It was an organization named Center for Medical Progress. Oddly (but not really oddly…predictable), Planned Parenthood was never prosecuted for these crimes, but instead the founder of the group and his “accomplice” were charged with multiple felonies in both Texas and California. Kamala Harris played a part in this in California. The fetal experimentation industry is huge and profitable but flies well under the radar. Whistleblowers testify that it is not unusual for live babies, aborted by the induction method, to be surgically incised, without anesthesia, to obtain fresh and usable organs. Im sick of all the excuses for abortion. Abortion is not compassionate for mother or baby. It is just another population control method and women, starting in elementary school, are indoctrinated to think that killing their babies is no more serious than cutting their toenails, prior to which they are taught that it’s ok to have sex at 14 “if they feel ready”; obviously a set up from Planned Parenthood to make more and more money to terminate these unwanted pregnancies out of “ compassion”. Please WAKE UP!
It’s barbaric, and we are ignorant to think that a country that is so adoring of killing its own children will not pay a very steep price for this in one way or another.
Thank you for the source correction. I saw it in a video podcast once. Did not try to find the expose video, figuring it was likely censored.
I have to say that I completely agree with you, although I don't know if it's based in reality in our current state of the world. Definitely should make it illegal for any sales of fetal body parts, Oh my God, I didn't know that existed, but I would personally like to be on the team that goes after these black market sales which I'm sure is where it's taking place.
It's an old medical model to test on creatures so I don't know that we can do without it at this point completely because people and change.
I truly believe the answer is to make your own products for the home. I personally never buy any body care products from a store. I am about 98% free of using chemicals in the home.
If everyone did this, we could eliminate most animal testing and **dry up** these corporations that keep coming out with new products that we definitely do not need because it's just more of the same garbage lining the shelves. I am just hoping and praying, really, the RFK Jr. can expose these corporations and how supporting them by consuming their products is WHY we are in our current health crisis.
Always support local, cottage and small businesses and family farms and community gardens wherever possible and make your own products for the home from simple ingredients that are tried and true!
WE CAN DO THIS
It shouldn’t have been a divisive issue but in practice it was. Abortion had a huge effect on the vote because low-information voters like my wife and the wives of my two nearest neighbors all voted for Kamala because of the lies she and the MSM told about Trump “taking away abortion.”
As you point out that’s a complete lie, but all three women voted for Kamala to “protect reproductive rights” (i.e. abortion). I’m sure millions of other high income white women voted the same way this election. Dupes like them were one of Kamala’s last bastions of support among voters.
Fortunately, voters who took their civic duty more seriously and did the research prevailed and Trump has won a truly historic victory.
Last Friday I made an emotionally neutral statement while sharing a ride to work that "some polls indicate Trump will probably win." We are Canadians. Emotional attachments to US election outcomes is pointless. My friend was triggered and exploded at me with "Do you want desperate girls and women to have NO access to contraception, morning-after pills or legal safe abortion? Because that's what Trump will do!" I was taken aback at the vehemence but said calmly, "SCOTUS put that decision back on individual states, so it is not up to any president." That response didn't sit well with her and after getting even more furious about the fascist bias of Trump-appointed SCOTUS justices she angrily berated me as a Trump lover, though I only ever said, all these months, that I would vote for Kennedy if I could. Abortion access is part of our funded health care system. So is euthanasia now. I wanted to point out that Canadian girls and women still can't get an abortion in the province of Prince Edward Island because the conservative government there has severely restricted doctors from providing them. They have to go to another province and pay out of pocket. Indigenous women in the north can't have their babies in their own communities but have to be flown to southern cities to live away from their older children, friends and families for the last six weeks of their pregnancies, because there are no hospitals, doctors, midwives or NICU where they live. But I kept my mouth shut.
Hopefully you can get the Trudeau favouring Dominion voting system sorted. Then you might realise FREEDOM is a potential reality! Unjabbed Mick (UK).
Abortion until fetal viability is what makes sense and appears to be what the majority of Americans
want.
Wrong, it's mass murdering of our most innocent.
“Abortion is an act of worship to Satan.”
Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò
Abortion is far and away the leading cause of death worldwide. Humanity is ruthlessly mass murdering the most innocent amongst us. This desecration of the miracle of life in the womb is beyond nightmarish it is demonic. According to the World Health Organization, every year in the world there are around 73 million induced abortions. This corresponds to approximately 200,000 abortions per day, that’s 8,333 an hour, 139 every minute, and 2.3 each second. Take a minute or so, to fully comprehend the enormity of evil we are letting happen sink in.
The immorality of what we are doing is beyond unconscionable, yet most seem to feel little or no remorse about it. Thou shalt not kill. Is there something people don't understand about the Sixth Commandment? I do not believe in government-sanctioned killing, whether it be abortion, capital punishment, or being drafted into a war.
There have been about 66,000,000 abortions in the United States, since the despicable Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision on January 22, 1973, that approved this genocidal mass murder, called infanticide.
Mark R. Elsis
Abortion is a form of population control while being an excuse for not taking responsibility at the same time. That is why Marxist dems love it. Lets ask the 60 million aborted babies over the last 50 years in the US what they think. Come on A/I, now's your time to really shine and actually provide something of value.
just because a fetus isn't able to survive on his or her own outside the womb doesn't mean they don't feel pain
I really like the viability discussion, because it is so ridiculous. So let me understand the argument. A less than 21 week old cannot support itself outside the womb, or live without intervention. Is that right? Whelp, if it is right or close, riddle me this. How does a baby born at 9 months support itself or live/survive without intervention by another human? Or is it just that the intervention or support for a human can ONLY come from the mother (who doesn’t want to be one). ? Make me understand. The arguments are all bullshit. It IS a life in the next x number of weeks and it will still and for a long time not be viable on its own. We are still murdering life before 21 weeks. The baby is alive on day 1, whether we want to consider it so legally or not. On day 1 if you add 22 weeks it is alive. On day 1 if you add 40 weeks it is definitely breathing earths air through its own nose, but still MUST have the same support from a grown human as the not yet born baby. Wake up people.
Here in New Mexico, two Democrats campaigned 95% on the abortion issue and both won, NM being a abortion until born state would never outlaw abortion in any way, yet the voters seemed to be all in on the abortion issue. How can there be that many sex crazed people who want unprotected sex with no restraints? There was a good meme on X showing a lone woman standing away from the destroyed city from the nuclear holocaust saying, "at least we have abortion"
God have mercy on us….
And in any case, under the Constitution, it isn't a Federal matter and is the prerogative of the States. It never should have been otherwise.
In most cases, that's correct. But even according to the founding fathers, one of the very few jobs of the federal government is to uphold the rights of the citizens so if some states are choosing to legalize the murder of a particular group of people, the federal government should step in and prevent that from happening.
I don't think that's remotely controversial, and neither is the undeniable scientific fact that a human is always a human at every stage of development. So, what we're arguing about here is which humans possess personhood and which don't. And that's a dark road indeed.
Yes, but even there the wisdom of the Founding Fathers was impeccable. Those matters not directly regulated under the Constitution were retained by the States. BUT under the 3 branches of Government established, an Independent judiciary could and does engage in matters of interpretation outside of the influence of politicians or the executive branch.
The Constitution and BOR are truly remarkable documents at the pinnacle of human achievement. As a non-American I have always been in awe of them.
The Constitution doesn’t grant rights, it protects “god-given” rights. I would like to see an amendment that protects bodily autonomy—especially supporting informed consent, another “god-given” right.
Constitutions protects "secured rights" ONLY.
The Founding Fathers did NOT have any rights to give away.
Which is why they used terms such as “shall not be infringed.”
Monstrous.
Why not dump the UN and WHO altogether? Why continue to let these thugs run our lives?
No matter what state you live in , there are websites to get abortion med if less than 12 weeks….the woman right was hyped up lie