When I saw the reports about the HCQ study, the number 17,000 immediately raised a red flag. Currently, Denis Rancourt's research on All Cause Mortality and the estimated 17,000 million vaccine-related deaths globally is being shared widely on alternative media. What better way to muddy the waters than to publish another paper using the same magic number. Those who read only corporate media see that number in the HCQ study and then if they later happen to stumble across Rancourt's work and they see that number in the headline they presume it's about the same thing and read no further.
This is shockingly bad science even by current standards — the model shows so much confounding and design flaw at the most basic level that this is absurd. It’s like bald faced sociopathic lying by the lot of them and the journal and it’s amazing except we’ve lived through so much insane lying and distortion that’s gone by without punishment. I’m wondering if the fact that HCQ was mysteriously removed from common OTC purchase in France in January 2020 (for what reason prior to any C19 emergence?) is involved w this. It was such a telltale sinister move that screams for historical forensic review re plandemic conspiracy that maybe now people want to keep slamming HCQ so that review never takes place. The political punishment of the HCQ advocates makes sense but I think it’s the politics of coverup for conspiracy to commit mass murder.
We can’t forget and must always remember, Satan doesn’t quit, not until he’s overwhelmed by “God Loving People”! This flawed study once again the “EVILDOERS” are pushing their drugs on the world and blocking or forcing great Doctors and Scientists to speak the truth and provide proven and time tested treatments VS? Well VS a bioweapon which has maimed and killed millions of people worldwide! Can this get any more evil? I think so, when they decide it’s time to round everyone up and hold us down for a forced injection! This is the slippery slope we are heading for if we all don’t fight back! May God Bless America and The Entire World!
Dr Lee Merritt, early in the pandemic, found studies proving hydrochloroquine and ivermectine are efficient anti-viral drugs which means that not only the Covid vaccines but the flu vaccine as well are not needed.
That is what they are very afraid people will find out. They want to prevent any such drugs to get in the way of the all vaccine criminal approach seeking to destroy our natural immunity.
The European Union, through Ursula von der Leyen making the deals (still not public) directly with Albert Bourla, bought 4.6 billion vaccines at the beginning of the pandemic, which means 10 vaccines per European citizen!!! That cost a mere 70 some billions to the tax payers!
They have or will destroy 215 million vaccines these days valued at close to 4 billion euros!
The uptake of the 5th vaccine is similar to the US at about 2,7% only, thank God!!!
So thank God too that they are being destroyed making sure they will never get into anybody’s arm but european countries ought to be able to get out of those shady deals without having to pay anything. Enough is enough! They have already paid a very heavy load with many deaths and destroyed lives through severe adverses effects.
The redacted contracts still to this day say everything about the dishonest ways they do business. Investigations and legal lawsuits ought to happen and the non liability agreement should not hold since the pharmaceutical companies obtained the emergency use authorization fraudulently.
I would always believe there was a mistake in the original research as we consider the source (who wrote the research paper) and it wasn't RFK Jr's Defender. Also consider that researchers/scientists can make up any results they want.
Sounds like the WHO Solidarity Trial and the UK (Bill Gates) Recovery Trial were typical Bill Gates
promoted trials that were never intended to be legitimate. It was a money making opportunity to discredit a legitimate product so Bill and the Billionaires could buy shares in the favoured pharmaceutical companies and make a windfall when only MRNA products were allowed to be used.
There must be a new category of scientific research study that is nothing more than propaganda. It's science commandeered by politics. The previous flawed HCQ trial was of the same sort. We might call it kidnapped science.
On target most certainly - the man who advances a powerful therapy 🎯 the plandemic was well in the works in advance of 2019 and the HCQ was a known agent in the literature
You are muddying the waters by citing anything to do with 17,000 deaths that has previously been stated as the number of deaths due to the bioweapon shits. Whose side are you on? You are either controlled opposition or being used as a Useful Idiot by controlled opposition to distract from the 17,000 deaths caused by the bioweapon shots.
Why was this 2024 study even published? I thought it was already argued that back in 2021 or prior to that:
1) the studies claiming HCQ killed hospitalized patients had injected excessive quantities of HCQ into those patients, plus likely other deadly chemicals, thus causing their deaths
2) HCQ is meant to be prescribed (along with zinc, etc.) within the first week or so of the presentation of alleged Covid-19 symptoms and was not meant to be prescribed for patients already hospitalized..
Apparently, none of these "researcher" numbskulls listened to these arguments; or, were they paid by big pharma to conduct these deadly studies again? In my opinion, these "researchers" should be removed from society along with the Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy journal which published their "research".
I received an email pointing to this comment of yours; but, It's not readily apparent to me exactly who in this thread you are criticizing. Pointing to Meryl Nass' thread doesn't explain anything with regard to your criticism. Many of us realize that there have been somewhere between 13 million to 20 million deaths caused by this Plandemic. If I'm reading Dr. Nass' post correctly, the 17,000 is that due to improper use of HCQ on hospitalized patients who allegedly have been diagnosed as presenting with lleged Covid-19 symptoms. So, which post are you criticizing?
I am actually criticising Meryl Nass for distracting from the 17,000 deaths caused by the bioweapon shots as per Denis Rancourts post. Now, we have Meryl Nass citing 17,000 deaths allegedly due to HCQ. Many other replies have also negatively commented on the quality of the research study she used as the basis for her post, and also thought she was muddying the waters. We need to stay focussed on the bioweapon shots and related, unprecedented deaths as a result. Not have Meryl Nass reactivating the party line that HCQ or Ivermectin were suppressed for any justifiable reason.
"modern medicine" does not study cause scientifically. Instead it studies cause statistically. "May have died because..." is a case of statistical speculation. Eg. Nonsense. Even when someone dies in medical care, cause-of-death is generally a nonsense speculation, not wothly of investigation (investigation might reveal medical incompetence, negligence, or simply nonsense. This is even more true for COVID. Nobody dies from a SARS-COV-2 infection. People die from the consequences of the infection, combined with their physical status, their medical treatment or its absence, and many other factors. If we truly want better medical systems, treatments, and cures, we need to take a few cases, some where patients died and some where patients were cured, and study them in detail. We could then create meaningful statistics as we gather more cases. Instead, we speculate about cause of death for a few minutes, write something down because it's a blank on the death certificate, and try to gain statistical information by complex analysis of garbage data.
I have my doubts that anyone died of HCQ. What I do know is there are 40 thousand to 70 thousand flu deaths every year....except 2020 where only a little over a thousand were recorded as flu deaths.
Profoundly flawed data.... HCQ is fine.. on pharmacy shelves for years...
Exactly. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/did-hcq-really-cause-17000-deaths/comment/47121622?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1m8d4d
When I saw the reports about the HCQ study, the number 17,000 immediately raised a red flag. Currently, Denis Rancourt's research on All Cause Mortality and the estimated 17,000 million vaccine-related deaths globally is being shared widely on alternative media. What better way to muddy the waters than to publish another paper using the same magic number. Those who read only corporate media see that number in the HCQ study and then if they later happen to stumble across Rancourt's work and they see that number in the headline they presume it's about the same thing and read no further.
You and I came to the same conclusion and BOTH of us used the term 'muddying the waters'. Spot on.
Exactly my opinion. Spot on. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/did-hcq-really-cause-17000-deaths/comment/47144468?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1m8d4d
This is shockingly bad science even by current standards — the model shows so much confounding and design flaw at the most basic level that this is absurd. It’s like bald faced sociopathic lying by the lot of them and the journal and it’s amazing except we’ve lived through so much insane lying and distortion that’s gone by without punishment. I’m wondering if the fact that HCQ was mysteriously removed from common OTC purchase in France in January 2020 (for what reason prior to any C19 emergence?) is involved w this. It was such a telltale sinister move that screams for historical forensic review re plandemic conspiracy that maybe now people want to keep slamming HCQ so that review never takes place. The political punishment of the HCQ advocates makes sense but I think it’s the politics of coverup for conspiracy to commit mass murder.
You are spot on. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/did-hcq-really-cause-17000-deaths/comment/47121622?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1m8d4d
We can’t forget and must always remember, Satan doesn’t quit, not until he’s overwhelmed by “God Loving People”! This flawed study once again the “EVILDOERS” are pushing their drugs on the world and blocking or forcing great Doctors and Scientists to speak the truth and provide proven and time tested treatments VS? Well VS a bioweapon which has maimed and killed millions of people worldwide! Can this get any more evil? I think so, when they decide it’s time to round everyone up and hold us down for a forced injection! This is the slippery slope we are heading for if we all don’t fight back! May God Bless America and The Entire World!
AJR
Spot on. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/did-hcq-really-cause-17000-deaths/comment/47121622?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1m8d4d
Dr Lee Merritt, early in the pandemic, found studies proving hydrochloroquine and ivermectine are efficient anti-viral drugs which means that not only the Covid vaccines but the flu vaccine as well are not needed.
That is what they are very afraid people will find out. They want to prevent any such drugs to get in the way of the all vaccine criminal approach seeking to destroy our natural immunity.
The European Union, through Ursula von der Leyen making the deals (still not public) directly with Albert Bourla, bought 4.6 billion vaccines at the beginning of the pandemic, which means 10 vaccines per European citizen!!! That cost a mere 70 some billions to the tax payers!
They have or will destroy 215 million vaccines these days valued at close to 4 billion euros!
The uptake of the 5th vaccine is similar to the US at about 2,7% only, thank God!!!
So thank God too that they are being destroyed making sure they will never get into anybody’s arm but european countries ought to be able to get out of those shady deals without having to pay anything. Enough is enough! They have already paid a very heavy load with many deaths and destroyed lives through severe adverses effects.
The redacted contracts still to this day say everything about the dishonest ways they do business. Investigations and legal lawsuits ought to happen and the non liability agreement should not hold since the pharmaceutical companies obtained the emergency use authorization fraudulently.
May Truth and Justice prevail.
Your comment is great and makes me think the rats are trying to defame the drug so it’s underused going forward too.
Probably there wasn't even one death due to HCQ
I would always believe there was a mistake in the original research as we consider the source (who wrote the research paper) and it wasn't RFK Jr's Defender. Also consider that researchers/scientists can make up any results they want.
Sounds like the WHO Solidarity Trial and the UK (Bill Gates) Recovery Trial were typical Bill Gates
promoted trials that were never intended to be legitimate. It was a money making opportunity to discredit a legitimate product so Bill and the Billionaires could buy shares in the favoured pharmaceutical companies and make a windfall when only MRNA products were allowed to be used.
There must be a new category of scientific research study that is nothing more than propaganda. It's science commandeered by politics. The previous flawed HCQ trial was of the same sort. We might call it kidnapped science.
Those here will, no doubt, find this article from 3/24/2020 interesting in regard to the former French Minister of Health, Agnes Buzyn, her husband, Yves Levy, & Didier Raoult....https://en.reseauinternational.net/conflit-dinterets-autour-du-coronavirus-agnes-buzyn-vs-didier-raoult/
On target most certainly - the man who advances a powerful therapy 🎯 the plandemic was well in the works in advance of 2019 and the HCQ was a known agent in the literature
You are muddying the waters by citing anything to do with 17,000 deaths that has previously been stated as the number of deaths due to the bioweapon shits. Whose side are you on? You are either controlled opposition or being used as a Useful Idiot by controlled opposition to distract from the 17,000 deaths caused by the bioweapon shots.
ie Meryl Nass ought to know better.
Why was this 2024 study even published? I thought it was already argued that back in 2021 or prior to that:
1) the studies claiming HCQ killed hospitalized patients had injected excessive quantities of HCQ into those patients, plus likely other deadly chemicals, thus causing their deaths
2) HCQ is meant to be prescribed (along with zinc, etc.) within the first week or so of the presentation of alleged Covid-19 symptoms and was not meant to be prescribed for patients already hospitalized..
Apparently, none of these "researcher" numbskulls listened to these arguments; or, were they paid by big pharma to conduct these deadly studies again? In my opinion, these "researchers" should be removed from society along with the Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy journal which published their "research".
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/did-hcq-really-cause-17000-deaths/comment/47144468?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1m8d4d
I received an email pointing to this comment of yours; but, It's not readily apparent to me exactly who in this thread you are criticizing. Pointing to Meryl Nass' thread doesn't explain anything with regard to your criticism. Many of us realize that there have been somewhere between 13 million to 20 million deaths caused by this Plandemic. If I'm reading Dr. Nass' post correctly, the 17,000 is that due to improper use of HCQ on hospitalized patients who allegedly have been diagnosed as presenting with lleged Covid-19 symptoms. So, which post are you criticizing?
I am actually criticising Meryl Nass for distracting from the 17,000 deaths caused by the bioweapon shots as per Denis Rancourts post. Now, we have Meryl Nass citing 17,000 deaths allegedly due to HCQ. Many other replies have also negatively commented on the quality of the research study she used as the basis for her post, and also thought she was muddying the waters. We need to stay focussed on the bioweapon shots and related, unprecedented deaths as a result. Not have Meryl Nass reactivating the party line that HCQ or Ivermectin were suppressed for any justifiable reason.
Thanks for the explanation.
You are welcome. Sorry I was unclear. A bit too hasty.
reminds me of the blatant lies they told about "horse paste," which also shows incredible efficacy against CANCER - https://eccentrik.substack.com/p/horse-paste-a-major-cancer-killer
"modern medicine" does not study cause scientifically. Instead it studies cause statistically. "May have died because..." is a case of statistical speculation. Eg. Nonsense. Even when someone dies in medical care, cause-of-death is generally a nonsense speculation, not wothly of investigation (investigation might reveal medical incompetence, negligence, or simply nonsense. This is even more true for COVID. Nobody dies from a SARS-COV-2 infection. People die from the consequences of the infection, combined with their physical status, their medical treatment or its absence, and many other factors. If we truly want better medical systems, treatments, and cures, we need to take a few cases, some where patients died and some where patients were cured, and study them in detail. We could then create meaningful statistics as we gather more cases. Instead, we speculate about cause of death for a few minutes, write something down because it's a blank on the death certificate, and try to gain statistical information by complex analysis of garbage data.
If the "establishment" (the captured agencies and researchers) didn't use flawed data, they wouldn't have any data at all.
You can discredit any RX drug if it is missed used on dosage or timing!
I have my doubts that anyone died of HCQ. What I do know is there are 40 thousand to 70 thousand flu deaths every year....except 2020 where only a little over a thousand were recorded as flu deaths.