Wow, so we jumping head first into the GoF or natural debate again? Sometimes birds get sick. Just like humans get sick. Just because the media focuses on every day occurances doesnt mean anything out of the ordinary is happening. Ffs this is 2020 all over. And people are playing right into it again.
Wow, so we jumping head first into the GoF or natural debate again? Sometimes birds get sick. Just like humans get sick. Just because the media focuses on every day occurances doesnt mean anything out of the ordinary is happening. Ffs this is 2020 all over. And people are playing right into it again.
I have no doubt there are sick birds. And I sure as hell dont want to be eating meat from sick birds. But this happens literally all the time. LArge scale ops are notorious vile conditions and if one does get sick, a farmer really has no recourse other than culling the herd. Its standard practice. But for everyone, particularly in the (not-so-concerned-about) truth community, to just fall right into this bullshit again show the vast majority still do not get it. Or have a hidden agenda.
maybe we should be asking for REAL PROOF of any pathogen before we start the franken-virus fear porn again. Nobody asked for proof in 2020 and look where it ended up.
Will all those who believe there exist no pathogens move to your own substack so you can work in harmony together and figure out how to prove your hypothesis, or not, and leave the rest of us alone? If you were sincere that would be the logical thing to do.
We are trying to figure out how to save ourselves and the rest of humanity from these pathogens--did you never see pus? and you are in the way. Apparently deliberately. Go away.
Would you consider a non-biological agent- like a toxin- a 'pathogen'?
I guess the official definition of pathogen includes microorganisms (virus, bacteria, fungi). If you understand the position of "those who believe" (now put in a "camp"), it is not that "there exist no pathogens". We do not "believe"... we know bacteria and fungi exist. We argue what their characterizations and functions are based on examining the evidence from the literature. So you either do not understand or are intentionally mislabeling the position so it has a little "crazy" ring to it for your loyal followers. Either way, it is rather inexcusable.
I wonder how it is, that seemingly dozens if not hundreds of thousands of lay people can wrap their head around fraudulent science after learning what the scientific method is, and yet so many 'doctors' (such as yourself) either cannot or will not. To date, the laboratory technique (cell culture) used for 'proving' viruses has been demonstrated as pseudoscience- and all other lab and computer model gimmickry is downstream from that. How is is possible that you have not learned that yet? All the information is readily available. I ask, do you have an intellectual curiosity and/or thinking crisis?
read all my comments you fucking twit before you start accusing me of shit I am not saying:
Joel Walbert
The Truth Addict Newsletter
49 mins ago
I have no doubt there are sick birds. And I sure as hell dont want to be eating meat from sick birds. But this happens literally all the time. LArge scale ops are notorious vile conditions and if one does get sick, a farmer really has no recourse other than culling the herd. Its standard practice. But for everyone, particularly in the (not-so-concerned-about) truth community, to just fall right into this bullshit again show the vast majority still do not get it. Or have a hidden agenda.
So my issue is everyone is just taking these media reports as gospel and you tell me to go away? Did I say anything about pathogens not existing? No I did not. My bad for suggesting we ask for proof of things. I guess that makes me the bad guy. My god, this is how you act to someone who is merely asking questions? You are fucking pathetic
I was not necessarily speaking to you. Read the rest of the comments--many claim there are no pathogens. Somehow my comment got placed after yours but it was intended to follow a different comment.
you replied to me and told me to go away, while claiming I said something I didnt, and talking about taking people to MY SUBSTACK. You were exactly talking to me. None of the others in the thread have their own substack. What proof is there if these birds are even sick? And if they are, what proof is there that its viral, let alone GoF? Birds get sick all the time, and always have. And the herds get culled. Its SOP for this business. Except this time the known liars in the media are saying its something new and irresponsible people LIKE YOU jump right into bioweapons. Then have the fucking nerve to attack me for asking questions?
GoF is money laundering for a viral fraud. The date of 1st April 2023 for the project initiation is a big clue, April Fool's day. We have had a series of such days every day since 2020 and they are coninuing ad nauseam.
Wow, so we jumping head first into the GoF or natural debate again? Sometimes birds get sick. Just like humans get sick. Just because the media focuses on every day occurances doesnt mean anything out of the ordinary is happening. Ffs this is 2020 all over. And people are playing right into it again.
Yeah, its a false dichotomy designed to keep peeps from realizing there aren't any viruses for toxic jabs to deal with
I have no doubt there are sick birds. And I sure as hell dont want to be eating meat from sick birds. But this happens literally all the time. LArge scale ops are notorious vile conditions and if one does get sick, a farmer really has no recourse other than culling the herd. Its standard practice. But for everyone, particularly in the (not-so-concerned-about) truth community, to just fall right into this bullshit again show the vast majority still do not get it. Or have a hidden agenda.
i dont think there is a debate - GoF is happening and the same culprits are doing it again. this was an article to raise the alarm.
Gain of Fiction
maybe we should be asking for REAL PROOF of any pathogen before we start the franken-virus fear porn again. Nobody asked for proof in 2020 and look where it ended up.
Will all those who believe there exist no pathogens move to your own substack so you can work in harmony together and figure out how to prove your hypothesis, or not, and leave the rest of us alone? If you were sincere that would be the logical thing to do.
We are trying to figure out how to save ourselves and the rest of humanity from these pathogens--did you never see pus? and you are in the way. Apparently deliberately. Go away.
Would you consider a non-biological agent- like a toxin- a 'pathogen'?
I guess the official definition of pathogen includes microorganisms (virus, bacteria, fungi). If you understand the position of "those who believe" (now put in a "camp"), it is not that "there exist no pathogens". We do not "believe"... we know bacteria and fungi exist. We argue what their characterizations and functions are based on examining the evidence from the literature. So you either do not understand or are intentionally mislabeling the position so it has a little "crazy" ring to it for your loyal followers. Either way, it is rather inexcusable.
I wonder how it is, that seemingly dozens if not hundreds of thousands of lay people can wrap their head around fraudulent science after learning what the scientific method is, and yet so many 'doctors' (such as yourself) either cannot or will not. To date, the laboratory technique (cell culture) used for 'proving' viruses has been demonstrated as pseudoscience- and all other lab and computer model gimmickry is downstream from that. How is is possible that you have not learned that yet? All the information is readily available. I ask, do you have an intellectual curiosity and/or thinking crisis?
read all my comments you fucking twit before you start accusing me of shit I am not saying:
Joel Walbert
The Truth Addict Newsletter
49 mins ago
I have no doubt there are sick birds. And I sure as hell dont want to be eating meat from sick birds. But this happens literally all the time. LArge scale ops are notorious vile conditions and if one does get sick, a farmer really has no recourse other than culling the herd. Its standard practice. But for everyone, particularly in the (not-so-concerned-about) truth community, to just fall right into this bullshit again show the vast majority still do not get it. Or have a hidden agenda.
So my issue is everyone is just taking these media reports as gospel and you tell me to go away? Did I say anything about pathogens not existing? No I did not. My bad for suggesting we ask for proof of things. I guess that makes me the bad guy. My god, this is how you act to someone who is merely asking questions? You are fucking pathetic
I was not necessarily speaking to you. Read the rest of the comments--many claim there are no pathogens. Somehow my comment got placed after yours but it was intended to follow a different comment.
maybe the cows being fed chicken shit is the reason for any cows that may be sick. But NOOOOOOOO, must be GoF so we can keep the scam narrative going
https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/04/30/is-chicken-feces-behind-the-bird-flu-outbreaks-in-cows-heres-what-to-know/
shot is the problem
you replied to me and told me to go away, while claiming I said something I didnt, and talking about taking people to MY SUBSTACK. You were exactly talking to me. None of the others in the thread have their own substack. What proof is there if these birds are even sick? And if they are, what proof is there that its viral, let alone GoF? Birds get sick all the time, and always have. And the herds get culled. Its SOP for this business. Except this time the known liars in the media are saying its something new and irresponsible people LIKE YOU jump right into bioweapons. Then have the fucking nerve to attack me for asking questions?
GoF is money laundering for a viral fraud. The date of 1st April 2023 for the project initiation is a big clue, April Fool's day. We have had a series of such days every day since 2020 and they are coninuing ad nauseam.