As Vera Sharav has shown in her video documentaries on the holocaust, the holocaust never ended because the same ideology and psychopathic mentality are still at work today, the difference being that the evil is now global in scope and all of humanity itself is expendable without exception; in fact, today's evildoers can be directly traced back to their historical antecedents in one way or another; Niemoller's quote was not just about collective responsibility but personal, individual responsibility which requires that we must take a stand for fellow human beings because we share in the same LIFE granted by our Creator.
It's Seth GRUBER! And his analysis and testimony are brilliant and inspired; he is not afraid to ask the right questions and reveal the historical background and roots of the malaise of our present day predicament; you will NEVER hear or see anything like this from any political or religious "leader" in today's culture anywhere in the world! Thank you for such an invaluable link!
Yes, the US began its hegemony with the settler colonial project that it was , first trying to enslave Natives but failing. So they decided to remove and slaughter them by the millions. And that was replace with an entitlement to kidnap Africans and enslave them for profit. That system morphed into the prison industry we have today. The mindset of entitlement developed into the ideology and policy of imperialism and the false belief that this country, controlled by white male supremacy had the right to control the rest of the world and assume ownership of other people's resources. Everything this country does is all about gaining more power and wealth for the few at the expense of the many. It's thinking under Capitalism resents having to pay workers their due as they 'eat' into profits. Mechanisms for productions like robot are designed to replace labor. American labor is expendable as there is cheaper labor in undeveloped countries that do not have labor laws that the workers fought for and achieved to some degree. And those are being eroded. The GOP has been promoting child labor again and using immigrants for these dangerous jobs. Feels like a repeat of the late 19c-early 20c labor debacles that resulted in mining deaths and factory worker diseases and death. And who doesn't know about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in NYC, 2011.
And yes, Paperclip was the expression of US imperialism, not the cause of it.
Don't forget how during the French and Indian War, smallpox-infected blankets were given as a gift to the Indians near Pittsburgh (Fort Pitt) as a means of extermination. The NAZIs were not the first. In Australia, every single aborigine in Tasmania was exterminated.
Thanks so much for your relentless efforts to bring the truth to light; my full respect to you !!
{...It is not coming from the OTHER. It is from US...}
The origins of most of the US population is of European descent, just in a new place with more space, lots of oil and newer technology enabling an economic and political pole-position.
Seems, the European brain has deeply entrenched and utterly sick non human aberrations ...
Historically a continent with folks constantly ravaged by wars, serfdom, bad weather, famines and all sorts of self-inflicted oppression by self-appointed despots, covering the globe with colonialism and intrinsic deadly diseases for the assaulted locals, ruthless exploitation to meet their never ending greed of power and self-exaltation.
BOTH sides of the North Atlantic suffer (and MAKE suffer), BOTH are evolutionary freaks and monsters ...
Best regards to you from a European spending his life in Northern Africa ... 🤣🤣🤣
The US eugenics program called Abiortion wasn’t in force until Roe in 1973, which was well after WW2. So what else was going on, unless you’re speaking of the Tuskegee radiation tests etc.
I had Niemoller's poem on a postcard that hung on my wall for many years. It is very well known. It's beauty is in its simplicity and clarity as it expresses a deep truth.
In 2007 I ran for mayor of SF to change the situation with homeless folks. Now homeless are literally everywhere, but they shut my business down and put me in jail.
I spoke against the wars and got arrested a bunch of times and went to jail, that was my campaign.
Many decades ago when I still had enough of a brain left to process complexity an underground member of the Socialist Workers’ Party quoted Niemöller to me on the streets and received an answer akin to this: There is a potent but false presumption behind this famous quote, namely that we all think and feel much the same thing and that what allows dictators to rise to unstoppable power is the failure of individual men to give public voice to an inner protest that most already feel and thus to mobilize the pent up resistance to dictatorship and tyranny that would sweep it from the scene, reduce it to cowering surrender as though there were not institutions that it embodied and preserved it. By contrast I suggest that most such individuals who felt as Niemöller did were not representative and that speaking out as he came to wish he had done was based on the false belief that effective mobilization were in the offing if only someone had the courage to give voice to it. But even giving voice to a shared idea does not create the institutions to bring them into power and implement the alternative. A much more likely scenario is that Niemöller would have been punished or trundled off to the camps earlier than he was and have had a much worse chance of surviving them. I may have been a bit more eloquent at the time. I remember this very good and very brave soul stuttering and fumbling and finally becoming so upset that he could not contain his emotions and left.
I say this as a profound admirer of Meryl, and a great well-wisher, and someone who agrees that in the U.S. as opposed to Germany in the 1930’s there may well be time and space to say something and do something that will do some good as her heroic endeavors have shown. But having just finished the last book (Tony Greenstein, Zionism During the Holocaust: The Weaponisation of Memory in the Service of State and Nation) of perhaps a dozen or so key books providing the actual history of Israel and the Holocaust (e.g., Ben Hecht’s Perfidy, Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ralph Schoenman’s, The Hidden History of Zionism, Sami Hadawi’s, Bitter Harvest: A Modern History of Palestine, etc.) I can’t help but be reminded of the importance of tempering the idealism of Niemöller’s sentiment against the exigencies of the moment. Greenstein’s book is filled with dozens of examples of people high and low who spoke out against Hitler, Nazism and the Holocaust. What happened to each of them, from priests to peasants, depended wholly on particulars of power and circumstance rather than nobility of purpose. Some were arrested, some murdered, some beaten, some imprisoned. Others escaped punishment and turned no tides. There were very few examples of heroic speeches and declarations turning things around and making a difference, and these were almost invariably when individual leaders of already coherent communities did give voice to their feelings in a context where Nazi pragmatics focussed on ongoing concerns for the progress of the war led them to make concessions. I cannot find a single example where speaking out as Niemöller seems to recommend turned things around.
Speaking of which, first they came for JFK, then ("the chickens came home to roost") Malcolm X , then MLK, then RFK, about all of which many of us have been speaking up for a very long time with very little effect. Now they have come for Trump, and keep RFK, Jr. rotating, unprotected, on the spit over the barbecue pit.
This is a wonderful talk by Rowan Williams, who was Archbishop of Canterbury before ex-fossil-fuel exec Dolphin Hat boy, and who is a poet, on moral courage.
What we are up against is so multi-pronged and huge that I'm not sure it is fightable without at least metaphorically adopting a spiritual stance, if not a literal stance grounded in faith. My aunt (the wife of my biological aunt's ex-husband) refused to join the HItler Youth, crossed an ocean alone, as a teenager, as she was having none of that. My mother, secular humanist and English teacher, snuck Bibles and some banned Russian literature into Russia, had her room tossed by the KGB, and ran out to an Orthodox church where she dropped the Bibles into people's laps, standing behind them as they sat in the pews, so it seemed the books dropped from heaven, then she ditched the literature under seats on a train, so she wouldn't get arrested. We all have something like this in us, perhaps not so dramatic, and deep within we know what hill we can fight. There are thousands of people out there fighting their hills.
As Aslan says to Lucy in the Narnia books, "Courage, dear heart."
Well I can think of two groups of great people that not only stood up, spoke with and listened to divine orders, organized, and defeated. One was the ancient Israelites against the wicked gene- altered Canaanites nephilum spawn and Amalakites, and the second being the USA against the tyrant of England. That type of mass bravery and obedience no longer exists in this weakened propagandized technological brew of a world society. And so, we await the very imminent seven year Tribulation period to begin. I know Whom I am saved by and belong to. Do any of you?
‘Collective responsibility’ seems oxymoronic since the collective embraces such little responsibility to exercise speech. Meanwhile the techno-fascist global elite are taking advantage because ’the collective’ remains silent.
I did not expect the term, when I wrote it, to mean that. I thought it meant we all had a piece of this pie and needed to bake it together. But you are right, it is being used to absolve ourselves of responsibility.
I think we are all responsible and the situation is dire and the ovens are coming.
Collective unconsciousness is more realistic, the masses cannot be awake it’s impossible only the individual can or some individuals can. Those can spread the fire like one seed can turn the whole earth green, or the Berlin Wall fell starting with the tiniest pebble, this is the transmission the task of the few who break out of the prison of collective slavery.
And what is the collective these days, anyway? Or speech for that matter? A mirage that most of us view through the internet and social media - created and controlled by the techno-fascist global elites themselves. They're pulling out all the stops to tell us everything is okay, everything is normal. But there IS widespread protest happening right now all across the West, where our "democratically-elected leaders" can't go out in public without being interrupted and shouted down. I agree with Meryl that the situation is dire. But the resistance is there too.
If the population decimation project truly wants to lower our numbers by 70-95%, I think the meaning of "Collective" will become apparent to all as we act collectively or die.
Those who have no compassion fer innocent people, being SLAUGHTERED on BOTH SIDES better re-read their Neimoller. My jaw is dropped ta hear BOTH the hoary-bull things said ta Dr. Meryl from BOTH SIDES--oh my golly y'all--don'cha know--there's only ONE SIDE... it ain't ours:
The ROTTEN cabal wants both Jews & Gazans murdered--the entire land clean-slated fer their "smart city." We were all duped, long ago. They will come for ALL OF US.. here in America too.
"OPERATORS are standin' by to take your call..." Don't fall fer the CON... they want ya to--
ps Dr. Meryl here has been tirelessly fightin' the WHO who is one'a the "WHO's WHOs" in this plot ta have us all at each others throats--here and in the Middle East (so don't play "WHO's" on First! y'all)
The Vatican contributed a great deal of monetary support to Hitler and the Nazi Party's Third Reich . Benito Mussolni in Italy was also part of the AXis...which the Roman Catholic Church supported. The third member of the Axis out to take over the world was Japan. I grew up during those years and remember it clearly. They were very serious times.
Apparently the Vatican didn't give enough; more than 1,000 Catholic clerics and seminarians died at the hands of the Nazis in Dachau's "Priesterblock".
I have always loved Neimoller's quote. I prominently displayed it on my wall for years and pondered it often. In all that time, I have never once thought it related to "collective quilt". To me, he couldn't have been clearer. As an individual "I", he didn't fight evil. The failure was his failure. We are called as individuals to fight evil, or not. When we do fight, we will find similar others. They can then form a collective for good but the responsibility still lies with the individual and their individual soul.
Meryl - That's why so many people are attracted to you. They see the goodness in your soul. You have fought evil when others haven't. You'd make Neimoller proud. Get Up. Stand Up. Don't Give Up the Fight!
1. I truly believe that Neimoller was talking about personal responsibility,
2. We are fighting one of the greatest evils in the history of mankind. This evil’s greatest weapon is always collectively lying. Our only way to beat it is always individually telling the truth. The collective liars want to enslave us with their lies and only “the truth shall set you free”. or most assuredly “we will all hang separately”.
As to there are no limits to the amount of food allowed in, then why are Biden, Jordan and other countries air dropping it in? I think that’s hogwash. Kids are dying from starvation.
Sorry not to be clear. It seems fairly obvious that if you take around 2 million people in a prison camp, and stop most of the food going in, that people are going to be short of food. Not much is grown there. If, further, you shell people queueing for flour hand-outs, and fire at them with automatic weapons, that is also going to making obtaining food problematic. I don't regard this as terrorist propaganda.
1. Why not is much grown there? When Israel withdrew, it left behind $$100mln worth of modern gardens farms. Hamas DELIBERATELY destroyed them. How come no one ever asked why? 🤔 No Jews, no questions?
Who turned the promising Gaza paradise into the, what you call, prison camp?
Same people who committed to genocide the last Jew not only in Israel but all over the world
Same people who started this war and still keep hostages and human shields babies
Same people who enslaved Palestinian Arabs to make fortunes:
Haniyeh $5Bln
Marzouk $3Bln
…..
Mashaal $5Bln
But of course the Jews are at fault here. Who else? The minds of Jew-haters work wonders
“I don't regard this as terrorist propaganda.”
Ok, it’s made up by a Jew-hater’s mind propaganda, closely resembling terrorist one.
If you give a damn about Palestinians, why don’t you listen to them?
Its difficult not to be prejudiced, when uneducated people delibrately murder others and you know it's what they have learned. No trust or faith in anything, except money and power. I believe we are all children of one Creator and are born, where we can achieve our greatest growth. I believe that we are all here to learn.. I believe every human has potential...something that if developed will bring the money necessary to pay one's way.. One's talent or skills are more important than anything else, because happiness stems from finding your niche in the world. Most of the Moneycrats running the world are separated from the truth, because their whole lives have been devoted to making money and keeping money. Many others seek careers, which would make them money. Their total faith is, in money and nothing else. They wind up miserably unhappy people who lose sight of their reason-for-being and will do anything for money. This appears to be the state of the world today. Money rules!!!
Yes, eugenics began in the US and Hitler learned much from the US with its racist core that declared Blacks less human than whites. They used this to justify enslavement. And they used this to experiment on Black Woman doing surgery without anesthesia 'believing' they didn't feel pain. It was and is the excuse for experimentation like the Tuskeegee syphyllis experiments on Black men abandoning them to the destruction of the disease without ever informing them of what they were doing.
But the issue of women's right to chose is not about eugenics. This is a woman's issure about being able to chose how to live their life in a time when women demanded access to higher educqtion and the professions with the ability to chose whether and to when to have children. It is also the freedom woman claim to abort pregnancies from rape or the chose to not birth deformed chidlren knowing the impossibilities of dealing with such a child that may not even survied. It is the sexism of men hysterical at losing control of women whom they suddenly were told to deal with equally. The eugenics stamp is a manipulative expression of this sexism often with religion being weaponized to push back on the gains women have made over the past 75 yrs or so for having control over their own lives. And that is the history and fraudulence of the so-called right to life issue.
Well here we have disagreements. A child is one that is born. A fetus, especially in the first 3 months is only an idea, a biological one. My positions is if you don't like abortions, then don't have one. But do not assume you can control my body or my life. Especially since those who oppose abortions never promote support for children born under untenable circumstances. In fact those same people tend to be very judgemental and hostile to those who have children and need help with them. Further, I find the right-to-life movement hipocritical. They make a big issue about abortion but can be quite horrible towards lives that already exist due to impoverishment, disability, racism, sexism, classism. I wonder how many who support your belief, are out on the street opposing the slaughter of Palestinians and using US tax $$$$ to do this genocide. The best I can do with your belief is to respect that it is yours and demand that your respect my position.. This is personal and has no business in the public sphere.
As Vera Sharav has shown in her video documentaries on the holocaust, the holocaust never ended because the same ideology and psychopathic mentality are still at work today, the difference being that the evil is now global in scope and all of humanity itself is expendable without exception; in fact, today's evildoers can be directly traced back to their historical antecedents in one way or another; Niemoller's quote was not just about collective responsibility but personal, individual responsibility which requires that we must take a stand for fellow human beings because we share in the same LIFE granted by our Creator.
Apparently, Operation Paperclip didn't just bring the rocket scientists over, but the eugenicists as well.
One can't help but think the OSS/CIA listened to the Nazis' stories of millions murdered and simply said, "Hold muh beer."
Eugenics started in the US actually. Don't blame paperclip for the mess we are in. It is not coming from the OTHER. It is from US.
True. . . . and then they came for the unborn . . .
This guest-speaker sermon/link is THE BEST I've heard on eugenics and abortion: https://sermons-online.org/jack-hibbs/the-white-rose-resistance
Seth Gerber - covers the entire history of the movement.
Intense. Fast. Witty. Tragic. Impactful.
It's Seth GRUBER! And his analysis and testimony are brilliant and inspired; he is not afraid to ask the right questions and reveal the historical background and roots of the malaise of our present day predicament; you will NEVER hear or see anything like this from any political or religious "leader" in today's culture anywhere in the world! Thank you for such an invaluable link!
Yes, the US began its hegemony with the settler colonial project that it was , first trying to enslave Natives but failing. So they decided to remove and slaughter them by the millions. And that was replace with an entitlement to kidnap Africans and enslave them for profit. That system morphed into the prison industry we have today. The mindset of entitlement developed into the ideology and policy of imperialism and the false belief that this country, controlled by white male supremacy had the right to control the rest of the world and assume ownership of other people's resources. Everything this country does is all about gaining more power and wealth for the few at the expense of the many. It's thinking under Capitalism resents having to pay workers their due as they 'eat' into profits. Mechanisms for productions like robot are designed to replace labor. American labor is expendable as there is cheaper labor in undeveloped countries that do not have labor laws that the workers fought for and achieved to some degree. And those are being eroded. The GOP has been promoting child labor again and using immigrants for these dangerous jobs. Feels like a repeat of the late 19c-early 20c labor debacles that resulted in mining deaths and factory worker diseases and death. And who doesn't know about the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in NYC, 2011.
And yes, Paperclip was the expression of US imperialism, not the cause of it.
Don't forget how during the French and Indian War, smallpox-infected blankets were given as a gift to the Indians near Pittsburgh (Fort Pitt) as a means of extermination. The NAZIs were not the first. In Australia, every single aborigine in Tasmania was exterminated.
please note the century correction as late 19c, not 29c. Typing is not my favorite
Well said!
Thanks so much for your relentless efforts to bring the truth to light; my full respect to you !!
{...It is not coming from the OTHER. It is from US...}
The origins of most of the US population is of European descent, just in a new place with more space, lots of oil and newer technology enabling an economic and political pole-position.
Seems, the European brain has deeply entrenched and utterly sick non human aberrations ...
Historically a continent with folks constantly ravaged by wars, serfdom, bad weather, famines and all sorts of self-inflicted oppression by self-appointed despots, covering the globe with colonialism and intrinsic deadly diseases for the assaulted locals, ruthless exploitation to meet their never ending greed of power and self-exaltation.
BOTH sides of the North Atlantic suffer (and MAKE suffer), BOTH are evolutionary freaks and monsters ...
Best regards to you from a European spending his life in Northern Africa ... 🤣🤣🤣
Dr. Nass, you are correct, but I do think the Nazis took it to a new level with outright murder.
See my comment above re outright murder before the Nazis
The US eugenics program called Abiortion wasn’t in force until Roe in 1973, which was well after WW2. So what else was going on, unless you’re speaking of the Tuskegee radiation tests etc.
Women designated unfit by no standard criteria were being sterilized for 100 years in the US
We were sterilizing people here in the US long before Roe.
Oh it started WAY before that.
I lived with one foster father named Eugene, I didn't know what his name meant at that time.
I had Niemoller's poem on a postcard that hung on my wall for many years. It is very well known. It's beauty is in its simplicity and clarity as it expresses a deep truth.
In 2007 I ran for mayor of SF to change the situation with homeless folks. Now homeless are literally everywhere, but they shut my business down and put me in jail.
I spoke against the wars and got arrested a bunch of times and went to jail, that was my campaign.
God bless scAmerica
The way they hunted down the unvaccinated--and how many people even supported it!--still haunts me.
People ARE beginning to have conversations about What Happened. I won't let an opportunity go by. We NEED to have these conversations!!
Me too. I lost people who were supposed to be my friends. Good riddance!
Many decades ago when I still had enough of a brain left to process complexity an underground member of the Socialist Workers’ Party quoted Niemöller to me on the streets and received an answer akin to this: There is a potent but false presumption behind this famous quote, namely that we all think and feel much the same thing and that what allows dictators to rise to unstoppable power is the failure of individual men to give public voice to an inner protest that most already feel and thus to mobilize the pent up resistance to dictatorship and tyranny that would sweep it from the scene, reduce it to cowering surrender as though there were not institutions that it embodied and preserved it. By contrast I suggest that most such individuals who felt as Niemöller did were not representative and that speaking out as he came to wish he had done was based on the false belief that effective mobilization were in the offing if only someone had the courage to give voice to it. But even giving voice to a shared idea does not create the institutions to bring them into power and implement the alternative. A much more likely scenario is that Niemöller would have been punished or trundled off to the camps earlier than he was and have had a much worse chance of surviving them. I may have been a bit more eloquent at the time. I remember this very good and very brave soul stuttering and fumbling and finally becoming so upset that he could not contain his emotions and left.
I say this as a profound admirer of Meryl, and a great well-wisher, and someone who agrees that in the U.S. as opposed to Germany in the 1930’s there may well be time and space to say something and do something that will do some good as her heroic endeavors have shown. But having just finished the last book (Tony Greenstein, Zionism During the Holocaust: The Weaponisation of Memory in the Service of State and Nation) of perhaps a dozen or so key books providing the actual history of Israel and the Holocaust (e.g., Ben Hecht’s Perfidy, Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ralph Schoenman’s, The Hidden History of Zionism, Sami Hadawi’s, Bitter Harvest: A Modern History of Palestine, etc.) I can’t help but be reminded of the importance of tempering the idealism of Niemöller’s sentiment against the exigencies of the moment. Greenstein’s book is filled with dozens of examples of people high and low who spoke out against Hitler, Nazism and the Holocaust. What happened to each of them, from priests to peasants, depended wholly on particulars of power and circumstance rather than nobility of purpose. Some were arrested, some murdered, some beaten, some imprisoned. Others escaped punishment and turned no tides. There were very few examples of heroic speeches and declarations turning things around and making a difference, and these were almost invariably when individual leaders of already coherent communities did give voice to their feelings in a context where Nazi pragmatics focussed on ongoing concerns for the progress of the war led them to make concessions. I cannot find a single example where speaking out as Niemöller seems to recommend turned things around.
Speaking of which, first they came for JFK, then ("the chickens came home to roost") Malcolm X , then MLK, then RFK, about all of which many of us have been speaking up for a very long time with very little effect. Now they have come for Trump, and keep RFK, Jr. rotating, unprotected, on the spit over the barbecue pit.
This is a wonderful talk by Rowan Williams, who was Archbishop of Canterbury before ex-fossil-fuel exec Dolphin Hat boy, and who is a poet, on moral courage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koLTeGg2hvM&t=1709s
and this is from Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Do Not Lose Heart, We were made for these times
https://www.dailygood.org/story/1538/do-not-lose-heart-we-were-made-for-these-times-clarissa-pinkola-estes/
What we are up against is so multi-pronged and huge that I'm not sure it is fightable without at least metaphorically adopting a spiritual stance, if not a literal stance grounded in faith. My aunt (the wife of my biological aunt's ex-husband) refused to join the HItler Youth, crossed an ocean alone, as a teenager, as she was having none of that. My mother, secular humanist and English teacher, snuck Bibles and some banned Russian literature into Russia, had her room tossed by the KGB, and ran out to an Orthodox church where she dropped the Bibles into people's laps, standing behind them as they sat in the pews, so it seemed the books dropped from heaven, then she ditched the literature under seats on a train, so she wouldn't get arrested. We all have something like this in us, perhaps not so dramatic, and deep within we know what hill we can fight. There are thousands of people out there fighting their hills.
As Aslan says to Lucy in the Narnia books, "Courage, dear heart."
Marissa Martin seems to have fallen for some NWO propaganda, but Rowan's message was valuable to some.
Nihilism.
A riff on irony.
Both are funny. ;)
Well I can think of two groups of great people that not only stood up, spoke with and listened to divine orders, organized, and defeated. One was the ancient Israelites against the wicked gene- altered Canaanites nephilum spawn and Amalakites, and the second being the USA against the tyrant of England. That type of mass bravery and obedience no longer exists in this weakened propagandized technological brew of a world society. And so, we await the very imminent seven year Tribulation period to begin. I know Whom I am saved by and belong to. Do any of you?
Thank you Meryl for inspiring people to get involved and take action, so as to protect themselves and family.
‘Collective responsibility’ seems oxymoronic since the collective embraces such little responsibility to exercise speech. Meanwhile the techno-fascist global elite are taking advantage because ’the collective’ remains silent.
I did not expect the term, when I wrote it, to mean that. I thought it meant we all had a piece of this pie and needed to bake it together. But you are right, it is being used to absolve ourselves of responsibility.
I think we are all responsible and the situation is dire and the ovens are coming.
Please see "What's Wrong with the Greater Good".
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/whats-wrong-with-the-greater-good
Your last statement is so significant that it deserves a post of its own. I would appreciate hearing your well-informed thoughts.
please see "What's Wrong with the Greater Good ".
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/whats-wrong-with-the-greater-good
Collective unconsciousness is more realistic, the masses cannot be awake it’s impossible only the individual can or some individuals can. Those can spread the fire like one seed can turn the whole earth green, or the Berlin Wall fell starting with the tiniest pebble, this is the transmission the task of the few who break out of the prison of collective slavery.
And what is the collective these days, anyway? Or speech for that matter? A mirage that most of us view through the internet and social media - created and controlled by the techno-fascist global elites themselves. They're pulling out all the stops to tell us everything is okay, everything is normal. But there IS widespread protest happening right now all across the West, where our "democratically-elected leaders" can't go out in public without being interrupted and shouted down. I agree with Meryl that the situation is dire. But the resistance is there too.
If the population decimation project truly wants to lower our numbers by 70-95%, I think the meaning of "Collective" will become apparent to all as we act collectively or die.
Only individualists will genuinely say, “Live free or die!” We are already being tested by relatively small fires, compared to the flames coming soon.
PS: Sophie Scholl of the White Rose Resistance personifies the level of individualism needed.
Let's not forget the origin of "decimation." It means eliminating a tenth. For these people, that would be seriously underachieving...
Neimoller knew that not havin' compassion fer yer fellow man will beckon yer own demise.
So did Rogers & Hammerstein when they SO clearly wrote about peoples' minds bein' indoctrinated to hate an' deny the humanity of others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPf6ITsjsgk
Those who have no compassion fer innocent people, being SLAUGHTERED on BOTH SIDES better re-read their Neimoller. My jaw is dropped ta hear BOTH the hoary-bull things said ta Dr. Meryl from BOTH SIDES--oh my golly y'all--don'cha know--there's only ONE SIDE... it ain't ours:
The ROTTEN cabal wants both Jews & Gazans murdered--the entire land clean-slated fer their "smart city." We were all duped, long ago. They will come for ALL OF US.. here in America too.
"OPERATORS are standin' by to take your call..." Don't fall fer the CON... they want ya to--
ps Dr. Meryl here has been tirelessly fightin' the WHO who is one'a the "WHO's WHOs" in this plot ta have us all at each others throats--here and in the Middle East (so don't play "WHO's" on First! y'all)
"from BOTH SIDES": bravo!
Church guilty of same during the rise of Nazi Party/Hitler
The Vatican contributed a great deal of monetary support to Hitler and the Nazi Party's Third Reich . Benito Mussolni in Italy was also part of the AXis...which the Roman Catholic Church supported. The third member of the Axis out to take over the world was Japan. I grew up during those years and remember it clearly. They were very serious times.
Apparently the Vatican didn't give enough; more than 1,000 Catholic clerics and seminarians died at the hands of the Nazis in Dachau's "Priesterblock".
Just like how the Democrats redistricted Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich to get rid of them, even though they were Democrats.
Ya gotta get rid of those with a conscience who won't play along.
And now the Vatican promotes the kill sh0t. Unbelievable…(or maybe not if one knows the history).
I have always loved Neimoller's quote. I prominently displayed it on my wall for years and pondered it often. In all that time, I have never once thought it related to "collective quilt". To me, he couldn't have been clearer. As an individual "I", he didn't fight evil. The failure was his failure. We are called as individuals to fight evil, or not. When we do fight, we will find similar others. They can then form a collective for good but the responsibility still lies with the individual and their individual soul.
Meryl - That's why so many people are attracted to you. They see the goodness in your soul. You have fought evil when others haven't. You'd make Neimoller proud. Get Up. Stand Up. Don't Give Up the Fight!
Thank you for bringing Bob into this discussion. Perfect!
Two points:
1. I truly believe that Neimoller was talking about personal responsibility,
2. We are fighting one of the greatest evils in the history of mankind. This evil’s greatest weapon is always collectively lying. Our only way to beat it is always individually telling the truth. The collective liars want to enslave us with their lies and only “the truth shall set you free”. or most assuredly “we will all hang separately”.
Well said! Please see "What's Wrong with the Greater Good ".
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/whats-wrong-with-the-greater-good
Some facts about food in Gaza:
✅Yesterday a near record number of trucks (260) entered Gaza since 10/7, with 250,000+ tons total in since the war
✅There is aid piling up on the Gazan side of the crossing that the UN has not picked up
✅There are 20 operational bakeries in Gaza, double what there were two weeks ago, supplying 2.5m loaves and pitta a day
✅There are no limits on the amount of aid that can enter Gaza
✅ Hamas is hijacking aid and the UN is covering that up
Can you provide a link to this?
As to there are no limits to the amount of food allowed in, then why are Biden, Jordan and other countries air dropping it in? I think that’s hogwash. Kids are dying from starvation.
“ why are Biden, Jordan and other countries air dropping it in?”
That’s a fantabuous question, given that Hamas bras are multimillionaires on stolen aid money:
Haniyeh $5Bln (That’s with a B)
Marzouk $3Bln (That’s with a B)
….
Mashaal $5Bln (That’s with a B)
«Kids are dying from starvation.»
“ Can you provide a link to this?” outside of terrorist propaganda, which you readily parrot 🤔
I’ll be waiting. Thanks!
That sounds implausible
Can you be concrete, what sounds implausible, please?
Sorry not to be clear. It seems fairly obvious that if you take around 2 million people in a prison camp, and stop most of the food going in, that people are going to be short of food. Not much is grown there. If, further, you shell people queueing for flour hand-outs, and fire at them with automatic weapons, that is also going to making obtaining food problematic. I don't regard this as terrorist propaganda.
“Not much is grown there.”
1. Why not is much grown there? When Israel withdrew, it left behind $$100mln worth of modern gardens farms. Hamas DELIBERATELY destroyed them. How come no one ever asked why? 🤔 No Jews, no questions?
Who turned the promising Gaza paradise into the, what you call, prison camp?
Same people who committed to genocide the last Jew not only in Israel but all over the world
Same people who started this war and still keep hostages and human shields babies
Same people who enslaved Palestinian Arabs to make fortunes:
Haniyeh $5Bln
Marzouk $3Bln
…..
Mashaal $5Bln
But of course the Jews are at fault here. Who else? The minds of Jew-haters work wonders
“I don't regard this as terrorist propaganda.”
Ok, it’s made up by a Jew-hater’s mind propaganda, closely resembling terrorist one.
If you give a damn about Palestinians, why don’t you listen to them?
“Sinwar, you are killing us, not Israeli army”
https://t.me/NEWSruIsrael/46880
🎥 MEMRI TV
Hopefully it won’t be the epitaph for our time as well
we will never be quiet nor comply... till Nuremberg..
I hope we can do a lot better than the corrupt whitewashing of Nuremberg
Its difficult not to be prejudiced, when uneducated people delibrately murder others and you know it's what they have learned. No trust or faith in anything, except money and power. I believe we are all children of one Creator and are born, where we can achieve our greatest growth. I believe that we are all here to learn.. I believe every human has potential...something that if developed will bring the money necessary to pay one's way.. One's talent or skills are more important than anything else, because happiness stems from finding your niche in the world. Most of the Moneycrats running the world are separated from the truth, because their whole lives have been devoted to making money and keeping money. Many others seek careers, which would make them money. Their total faith is, in money and nothing else. They wind up miserably unhappy people who lose sight of their reason-for-being and will do anything for money. This appears to be the state of the world today. Money rules!!!
This is so true. We all need to speak out.
Yes, eugenics began in the US and Hitler learned much from the US with its racist core that declared Blacks less human than whites. They used this to justify enslavement. And they used this to experiment on Black Woman doing surgery without anesthesia 'believing' they didn't feel pain. It was and is the excuse for experimentation like the Tuskeegee syphyllis experiments on Black men abandoning them to the destruction of the disease without ever informing them of what they were doing.
But the issue of women's right to chose is not about eugenics. This is a woman's issure about being able to chose how to live their life in a time when women demanded access to higher educqtion and the professions with the ability to chose whether and to when to have children. It is also the freedom woman claim to abort pregnancies from rape or the chose to not birth deformed chidlren knowing the impossibilities of dealing with such a child that may not even survied. It is the sexism of men hysterical at losing control of women whom they suddenly were told to deal with equally. The eugenics stamp is a manipulative expression of this sexism often with religion being weaponized to push back on the gains women have made over the past 75 yrs or so for having control over their own lives. And that is the history and fraudulence of the so-called right to life issue.
Abortion is the death of a child. Never to be condoned.
Well here we have disagreements. A child is one that is born. A fetus, especially in the first 3 months is only an idea, a biological one. My positions is if you don't like abortions, then don't have one. But do not assume you can control my body or my life. Especially since those who oppose abortions never promote support for children born under untenable circumstances. In fact those same people tend to be very judgemental and hostile to those who have children and need help with them. Further, I find the right-to-life movement hipocritical. They make a big issue about abortion but can be quite horrible towards lives that already exist due to impoverishment, disability, racism, sexism, classism. I wonder how many who support your belief, are out on the street opposing the slaughter of Palestinians and using US tax $$$$ to do this genocide. The best I can do with your belief is to respect that it is yours and demand that your respect my position.. This is personal and has no business in the public sphere.
Amen and Please God may all ears and gears open to these truths and the reality that history will repeat itself if we allow it!