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SARS-Cov-2 is a pathogen made by a computer , so simply computer code and only a part portion of what people think represents the genome of the Covid-19 causing virus as NO actual virus has been isolated and identified from an individual clinically determined to be suffering from the illness called Covid. The reference used with the RT-PCR process is nothing more than computer code 'BELIEVED' to represent the real genetic string.

No one can suffer an illness caused by a part string of computer generated and created code. So look at other sources of the illness conditions which appear as no different to most Flu like symptoms. Fever is the natural way along with inflamation to rid the body of materials it needs to.

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The “virus” was certainly invented in a lab but it was a computer lab and the only entity that was intentionally leaked out was a computer simulation. The results of the simulation were sent around the world as digital code over the internet and the resulting PCR primers that weredeployed in kits en masse created the “cases” for the COVID-19 fraud.

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David Martin, in one of his discussions of the 4000+ patent documents and coronavirus research funding documents which he perused, made the statement that a chimeric SARS coronavirus "spike protein" code was uploaded to a Moderna server for use in Moderna's mRNA "vaccine". Martin had either a written statement or a video of Kizzy Corbett saying to Francis Collins something to the effect, "Oh, this is really easy. You can make one of these on your computer and you don't need much of a lab at all"

So, what I see is two possibilities: 1) an mRNA spike protein that codes for some toxic protein peptide ; or 2) as Bryan Ardis seems to believe, a toxic venom protein peptide in the jabs, which cause the same symptoms attributed to the alleged Covid-19 disease, including lost of taste and smell. - I think Martin believes the "spike protein" version might have been aerosolized and spread globally by certain U.S. agencies; and Ardis has pointed out that various venoms are currently being synthesized in labs globally and are readily available on the retail market in aerosols.

Edit: I forgot to include that the "spike protein" code was uploaded to a Moderna server from a server in China. (-:

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Patents do not prove existence of what is patented.

Also Martin admitted that he has not seen any proper evidence of any bio virus.

And such things as nucleotides are not proven to exist.

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As it should be if it describes reality properly.

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This disease was lab-created and was not as deadly as ..the vax that has injured every recipient and killed multi-millions. The whole theory of Vaccination was Bogus...It was simply designed by those who were into the acquisition of money. The ingredients in these vile products were hidden by patents. Many would have totally rejected them, I'm sure, if hey knew .they contained..aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde. Items, which should not be injected into their bloodstreams. The CV-19 vax had far more toxic ingredients...I am not a genius, but as a young mother I knew those specific elements were toxic. Those who try to impress others with their intellect ..use words and terms laypeople do not know...to make people think they are intelligent. Well many of these intellectuals have created this worldwide fiasco. The simple truth: Doctors have not studied prevention or health. They study Treatment of Symptoms. Treatments will NOT provide CURES!

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The virus was not lab created nor was it rising naturally from a zoonitic source. It has not been shown to exist has never been isolated. As Peter Thompkinson stated, it exists on as computer generated code. Sadly Meryl Nass refuses to look or consider this. Examie any study claiming to have found a virus and you will understand the fallacies used to uphold this narrative. The pandemic was planned and anyone thinking it a coincidence that a planned lockdown just happened to coincide with the rise of a novel pathogen needs to rethink things. Of course that is conjecture, the reality is that sars coV2 does not exist, never found to exist.

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Frankly my dear, I don't give a dam (meaning 2 cents). My daughter and I were exposed the very same day. we marketed..and came down with 'something' within hours of each other in less than a week. What ever it was. it floored me and my daughter. It took down many others...whatever you want to call it. Aren't you aware there are labs that are creating biowarfare? Making bioweapons to destroy people. Senator Obama was photographed in one in Ukraine, before he became president. He made a statement that America would help support it. He and Fauci sent Peter Daszak and his EcoHealth Alliance... money to go to Wuhan, too. There are 35 labs in Ukraine. What do you think they are doing in these labs.?

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Details matter. You don't know why you and your daughter were poorly. You can make a bioweapon with anthrax but not a virus my dear cos they dont exist. I hope you and your daughter are better now.

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I have never seen any proper proof that any bacteria can be a weapon.

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It was 2021, when we were exposed to CV-19 and it hit suddenly. At six one evening, I told my daughter, I'm going to bed and I don't usually go to bed, until midnight. i felt totally drained of energy and just couldn't function. My daughter commented that she wasn't feeling well either. However, she insisted that I take her one and only prescription for HCQ. I took it and slept 18 hours. Then, got up and had breakfast. I only had a slight cough that persisted for a couple months, but it was not bad. My daughter did not get out of bed for two weeks. She was drained of energy; with a fever, chills and a cough. I never had another problem. However, every time we went to a gathering. for the next couple days, she wound up in

bed with chills and a fever. We stopped going places, except to the market. We know

someone who works with the military...and we were told about the stockpiling of diseases; measles, smallpox, ebola, and more. I have read about Wuhan and how the lab was working

on making diseases more potent. "Mad Scientists" in action playing with fire...

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Why would you be going to gatherings when you're sick? Or even to the market? Doesn't make any sense...

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How do you know that you were exposed to CV-19?

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You and your daughter being ill is not a proof of any virus.

Are you aware that there are no such things as bioweapons besides specifically conditioned humans and animals like soldiers or combat dogs.

Your logical fallacies are appeal to authority, bandwagon, argumentum ad populum, burden of proof, circular reasoning, question begging. Plus confirmation bias.

Also asking people about their speculations what happens in alleged labs is nonsense.

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Did new cellphone tower(s) go up near your home? Do you and/or daughter have cell phones? Where you marketed, were there towers and/or ppl w/ cellphones? As for bioweapons labs, this I am very sure of: our regressive tax $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ are getting spent on them, and a lot of ppl "work" in them, probably getting paid a lot more than I ever got paid for working.

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We live in a fairly rural area and there are no cell phone towers near us. I explained to someone else...we got CV-19 from one of the checkers at the market. We found out later that these checkers had taken the 'jab' and were 'shedders.' Shedding does exist! Its like the 'chickenpox parties' that were held back in the 1940s. People let children associate with other children that had the chicken pox; particularly in one's own family...to get it over with at one time. This I guess could be called shedding...

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How exactly do you know you "got CV-19" from one of the checkers?

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Don’t feed the trolls! These people will ask “Why? How Come?” til the cows come home.

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What is your lifestyle? Are you sure that you are not exposed to toxic substances?

Shedding of what?

Why no one has proven that so-called chicken pox is contagious?

Do you know logic?

If yes, then why do you commit logical fallacies and cognitive biases?

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what is Covid 19?

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Like everything else in the Ukraine, laundering taxpayers' money.

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The point is that it is not necessary to have a complete SARS-Cov-2 corona"virus" to have an alleged Covid-19 disease. A Covid-19 disease resulting in Covid-19 symptoms could be spread via a toxic protein peptide "spike protein" aerosol, which could include even one or more toxic venom protein peptides, or simply the aerosolized venom protein peptide(s). Robert Malone was even testing using cobra venom factor and other toxins in a 1996 patent. See https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/6f/65/07/e39a6bf6d18e9d/US5580859.pdf and search on "cobra" without the quotation marks..this finding courtesy of Karen Kingston. (-:

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Can you prove this alleged toxic protein?

What are venom protein peptides?

Can you prove them?

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patents are filed based on an idea or hypothesis, one can get a patent for an idea. One must prove the existence of a virus or a spike protein that causes illness. I would be curious where you have evidence of the existence of such, not simply a patent.

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You apparently have not read all of my posts within this thread...you are preaching to the choir. There is no isolated SARS-Cov-2. In my opinion SARS-Cov-2 does not exist, except as computer generated synthetic constructs from incomplete sequence data of who knows what.

The "spike protein" I speak of is a fictitious manmade synthetic construct developed in U.S. and Chinese labs. Dr. David Martin has several videos where he goes over the work done on developing this SARS "spike protein" from shortly after 1999 to just prior to the Plandemic. - I suggest you sort this thread chronologically; load all of the posts into memory; and then search down through them for my first name (using the 'find in page' utility from the application menu) and read all of my posts.

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Why no one can prove this alleged spike protein?

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you might find this video and the connections it makes interesting. SV40 has known carcinogenic properties and has been found in Covid jabs. Along with PEG and other materials that many believe are proven highly toxic substance that should NEVER be injected or even ingested by people. As the woman involved at the time stated, there were no controls being used, it was not research, they were developing a Bio-Weapon which is SV40.

https://rumble.com/v3x8l6d-jfk-assassination-60th-anniversary-full-story-kill-shot-the-cias-sv40-cance.html

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Peter, one must actually have the SV40 virus. Please show me the study where one was found. Or are you claiming a virus was made in a lab? Please show me the experiment where that was done

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SV40 need not be an actual 'virus' to do harm when in injected materials. It is perhaps biological material from another species - does it sound like a good idea to inject that in people? I think not.

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A 'virus' or what is being labelled a 'virus' may be anything. What it being shown as a genetic code, or claimed to be the gene sequence of a 'virus' is it seems, simply a collection of 'reads' being tiny pairings of bits of genetic material from 'something or many somethings' cobbled together by a computer programme. Given a name or recognition tag it is then proclaimed as a newly discovered 'virus' or mutated variant of a previously claimed 'virus'.

I guess this means a lab can exist in a computer too!! Does this explain my comment?

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Correct!

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What disease?

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Do you have evidence what causes the flu?

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Read: What Causes Disease by Dawn Lester and David Parker. Visit Dawn’s writings on Substack.

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Did you read it? The same way you read Dr. Bailey’s nonsense?

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Do you have evidence of any alleged bio virus?

Again. Any bio virus?

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You make me doubt any bio existence, except you’re a bio mistake.

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Cognitive dissonance and projection are strong with you.

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Seceral researchers with hospital supplied data found that admissions reporting with severe flu conditions at best about 30% were determined as potentially actual Influenza when tested using normal hospital pathology resources. The problem I have is that the method of isolating, purifying and identifying a suspected Virus is highly questionable as to whether an actual Virus is found and identified PLUS the Virus found must be from an individual exhibiting the target illness as determined by all other means AND after isolation and identification that same Viral source must then produced those self same symptoms of the original illness when another is exposed to it without prior indication of the illness.

AND BTW I used the common term 'Flu like Symptoms' which is used to describe the conditions which can be attributed to many other causes than a possible Flu virus and was/is a description reported for many supposed Covid admission these last few years. The WHO guide to diagnosis issued early 2020 allowed Flu Like Symptoms to be recorded as Covid-19.

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You wrote that SARS CoV-2 was a computer generated model, right?

Do you believe that influenzas causing pathogens are also computer generated models?

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Parasites are what they call “viruses.”

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What parasites?

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Good question ! Perhaps those who engendered it could answer that question.

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God help us!

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Look up some of the “patients”. It’s wild what our caring govern mind has been doing for decades !

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Who is “they”?

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No. Most of the conditions described as Flu, or Flu like are likely the body's process of dealing with foreign or harmful materials including waste generated within us. When this is too overwhelming for the body to cope with we die.

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Okay, but why are they happening seasonally? You theory makes no sense unless you can explain why there are no toxins for 6-8 months and not everyone gets too…

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What changes with the seasons? The whole environment and we are part of it, not separate from it no matter how hard we try to isolate ourselves - we depend upon and constantly interact with the environment which is constantly changing just as we are. It is life which is not a static thing but an ever evolving interactive myriad of processes always alive. Dead things are static. So why expect anything living to remain the same day in day out through all the changes?

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Stop thinking 'pathogenic virus cause disease' and start looking at other possibilities for what we accept as illness.

Here's one. the 1918 Spanish Flu, was not Spanish exclusively at all. The so called contagion spread from a large Army training base in America where just coincidently medical experiments were being conducted on the recruits now bound to 'obey' under military rule. A new Bacterial 'Vaccine' from the Rockefeller Institute was given to some recruits and some died. Then it seems this was applied more generally and it just may have been the way to spread Bacterial Pneumonia into the population by the soldiers and this 'Vaccine' was also put to use widely around the world. Not definitive evidence but later attempts, including spitting into another's face and mouth could not be shown to spread a 'virus' when tried. So was the 'Spanish Flu' actually a bio-experiment in which people with bacterial pneumonia together with a bacterial injection were used jointly to induce the deaths and suffering of millions?

Parasite, bacteria, moulds, and a myriad of other influences can disrupt bodily functions and induce illness conditions. Some like bacteria, pheromones and or exosomes and other materials ejected or excreted could be the transmission of harmful effects to others that lead to some becoming ill. Just thinking..

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For the purpose of his post it doesn't matter what causes the flu.

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Are you sure? This is what he wrote:

“ So look at other sources of the illness conditions which appear as no different to most Flu like symptoms.”

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There is a well-known set of symptoms, a syndrome, that is commonly called "flu". He's not denying it exists. (Nobody does.) So what need does he have to make any claim whatsoever as to its cause.

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I don’t think you understand what I’m trying to ask. Again, do you know what causes the common flu symptoms? He claims SARS Cov-2 is computer generated virus. What about the causes of flu? Are they also computer generated?

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What might be called Common Flu or Seasonal Flu seemed to magically disappear when Covid-19 as an illness appeared.

As others have pointed out here I am not talking about seasonal Flu, just that the part string used as the reference for the PCR is generated by a computer program that assembled 'reads' of genetic code, thousands of them, and then one considered to most resemble a similar string claimed as SARS-Cov-1 was selected as the reference. Whether such a string of code ACTUALLY exists in reality and is associated with a SARS-Cov-2 pathogen has to my knowledge NEVER been proven - no evidence to this effect and only claims. So a computer generated Virus it must be.

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the sequence is computer generated. The illness is real and likely has many causes. Each instance of illness must be investigated individually

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He's saying that what is claimed to cause COVID is in reality a made-up in silico genome thrown together by a computer program operating predominantly on human input. So COVID's real cause is MOST likely to not be that and be something else.

Knowing what causes flu is immaterial.

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by saying that sars coV2 is a computer generated virus he is saying that there was NO novel pathogen circulating. The pandemic was scam. The seasonal illnesses were all claimed to be covid based on the PCR test, which itself is fraudulent. So when he says the alleged virus was only in a computer, he means the sequence claiming it exists was created in a computer using a program.

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No one has proven any virus and that flu is caused by any virus.

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Toxins could be be.. the culprit? 5 G, water, food, huge etc….

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How do you prove it by the scientific method with controls? Do you have papers that have proven your claim?

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This same burden of proof is unsatisfied for COVID as well. 🤦‍♂️Controls? The COVID isolation (pseudo-causation) papers never report what happened in the control wells. So there might as well not be any controls in those either. Still, they only test correlation. No study has adequately tested causation.

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What’s it matter ? A man against his Will is of the same option still. ✌️

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yes he wrote that. Illness is caused by many things. Viruses is not one of them.

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⚠️ We can skip the whole virus discussion.

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Stopping the fear to get ill from others and stopping the only harmful injections is the goal.

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When we start with asking for evidence for any transmissible disease and show none of the 60+ experiments could do it:

https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence

we can conclude that no 'vaccine' has ever been proven to be effective. Done!

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The easiest way to know that viruses do not exist:

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⚠️ No disease could ever be proven to be transmissible, so there is nothing that can be called a virus. (by definition)

https://dpl003.substack.com/p/virology-the-damning-evidence

And thus no 'vaccine' has ever been proven to be effective!

These are ALL only harmful injections.

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The papers you cited claim that they have worked out the entire genetic structure of viruses such as “SARS-CoV-2” and uploaded this onto databanks, as Peng Zhou Zheng Li, Pilailuk, and their teams did, and as many have done since. Again, they claim that they have an “isolate” of the virus but this declaration is made after they have “constructed” the genome from their mixed brew containing genetic fragments of unknown provenance.

The process used to claim “isolation” can be summarised as follows. From the biological “soup” taken from patient’s lungs or nose swabs containing all sorts of material from the human subject, innumerable commensal microbes and potential contaminants, de novo assembly platforms search for short genetic fragments. After finding millions of unique fragments in the brew, these software programmes piece together a “genome” (one long piece) based on parameters set in the programme. Along the way there is a bit of cut-and-pasting and if pieces are “missing”, other ready- made templates can be added to fill the gaps. However, the man-made algorithms, probability models and arbitrary selections cannot deliver the “yes” or “no” answer to the question of its physical existence in nature, not least because any coronavirus “genome” used as a template in its production will likewise be propositional, the methodology providing no confirmable connection with the material or physical universe, making the new member of the Coronavirus genus merely another product of virology’s sui-referential processes.

An analogy for these processes would be that you find a million cards on the floor, each with partial sentences. You start arranging them into full sentences and then eventually a story. If some bits don’t fit you discard them, and if bits seem to be missing you borrow a paragraph from another story. But how would you know that this was an existing story and not something you had just made up? And why could there not be ten smaller stories in there, or no story at all? In short, you cannot claim to know the story unless you have access to the complete story before you start. And herein lies the cited papers deception – the teams did not work with a complete genome because they did not work with a complete virus. They worked with random bits of biological material and then tell us that it constitutes evidence of a virus. However, upon close examination of the methodologies employed, we can see that there’s a problem: there is no material proof of any virus.

The cited papers typify huge issues: what the public is not told is that no virus called SARS-CoV-2 has ever been actually isolated and purified as a whole unique structure. What takes place in the cited and many other papers is simply the shotgun sequencing of crude samples which contain genetic fragments of unknown provenance. Therefore, there is no evidence whatsoever, not even the vaguest guarantee, that the resulting in silico “genome” exists in nature or has anything to do with a “virus”. In this manner, however, the invention of the “virus” is presented as a discovery, its faux status retroactively secured through the act of denotation whereby its naming purports its prior existence and its pathogenicity.

That a notional hypothetical genome invented by such anti-science should lie at the heart of this assault on humanity is a scientific and ethical outrage. It is this false science that has turned the world upside-down, providing opportunity for politicians to assume the role of needle Nazis. That is the insidiousness of virology’s crime, a generalised version of the false claim of isolation provides politicians with “permission” to state-rape those in the government’s employ, and to extend their systematic programme of bodily violation into the private sector, and schools.

How contemporary democracies could have fallen for such preposterous but deadly nonsense is mind blowing.

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Excellent explanation of the fallacies attending in-silico sequencing.

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Hello, MD!! Thanks to a recent like I could find your comnent. I can't take credit for the post on sequencing. That honor goes to Mark Bailey. Some asshole was slagging Mark off on Meryls Substack so I left out Mark‘‘s name. But, yeah, Mark has beautifully explained the “fallacies attending in-silico sequencing.“ World-class researcher!!

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Meryl, you will be interested in this update from Judicial Watch: "The FBI recently released documents to us under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) showing that in early 2020 FBI investigators quickly understood that Dr. Anthony Fauci's National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) funded research at China's Wuhan Institute of Technology that could disguise the Covid coronavirus as "natural.""

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I have a "feeling" that the U.S. government is going to try to make us believe that the pandemic began as an inadvertent lab "leak" from the WIV; whereas, I believe it the "Plandemic" could easily have been started by a deliberate release of aerosolized toxins which would cause the alleged Covid-19 disease. Subsequently, all that was needed to prolong the "Plandemic" and injure, debilitate, and kill many more people was a more deadly bioweapon "vaccine" injection product. Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt have uncovered the U.S. government documents which appear to provide proof of the latter. Sooner or later, we citizens have to realize that we are being attacked...we are at war.

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Meryl,

I assume you may be pointing at me as a "demander" (even tho I asked nicely).

You have a problem with this posting, in that I read thru and early on saw my point of contention (isolation/culture), where you link to the vaunted CDC's website to show where they did so.

Page doesn't exist. So,I tried the next one (same thing). So, the CDC did NOT culture the "virus"??? hohum

By the way, my question was to have you and Sam Bailey (or Kauffman, Cowan, etc) sit down on camera and discuss this, where they can ask you directly the questions I'm beginning to think you are hiding from. Explain the isolation method you claim the CDC uses and then allow them to question you on your explanation. That has not happened. But there is runaround and bad linkage.

Something tells me that you will be OUTRAGED (I tell you) that I would ask this of you, since they are not worthy. However, the more I see these sleight of hand non answers and bogus fake outrage, it makes me very suspicious that I ain't getting the truth. I'm willing to bet a dollar to a donut that many others think the same way.

But you CAN fix it (the doubting of your integrity). But avoiding and calling them names ain't the way to do it.

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Find a virologist. I last isolated viruses 50 years ago. Who are these people who want me to jump cartwheels for them? I am a doctor and a pandemic/biowarfare researcher. Happy to debate areas where I have expertise. I am not a virologist. Pick that fight with someone else. I am a well intentioned novice who still knows more than many dubbers out there.

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Hi Meryl: What steps did you take to isolate a virus? Maybe if you share them you can put to bed those who claim it has never been done.

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I can answer for Meryl. She swabbed someone‘ s nasal cavity then took the swab out of the nostrils. Now the SNOT has been isolated cos of its removal from nostril. To further isolate the snot, its placed in a cell culture of Monkey kidney cells. Isolation is further improved by adding bovine fetal serum. Then to round off the isolation process, the cell culture is poisoned with antibiotics to produce cytopathic effects, and nice corona effects for electron micrograph pics.

But Factscinator what about the virus?

Well, its isolated in the snot?

Oh, you're so frustrating.

Of course!! I'm a viroliegist. It's part of my job description to frustrate, obfuscate. Otherwise, what's the point of us?

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Wendy,

That is but one thing I've asked of this woman many times. The easiest way is for her to sit down in front of a camera with one of her lessors who question her methodology, but she refuses. Just like you, it should raise questions of veracity among her readers.

As a matter of fact, Steve Kirsch had me banned from his comment section because I asked him the same thing. At least (thus far) Meryl is straight up enough to not have banned me. The optics would be even worse than the weasel wording.

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I am in a conversation with an old friend who is trained in the "medical science field" and he is doing his best to appeal to authority with me, claiming my contention that viruses have never been found in nature is a hypothesis that I must prove. He is being arrogant by putting down in a sly and disingenuous way independent investigative journalists (me) and does not seem to understand that virology can not be falsified, does not adhere to the scientific method and is therefore pseudoscience. He says he has seen a virus bud out of a cell and actually enter one, too., not just in pretty pictures created by a computer but under a microscope in a lab. He is going on about "sequence of nucleic acids that have been demonstrated as intercalating themselves onto DNA" this of course through in silico sequencing techniques, that I explained have obfuscated even more the fact that not one study claiming to find a virus has followed that scientific method. Frustrating! So I plan to ask him the same question about how to isolate a virus. Maybe we will no longer be friends since he has been rather demeaning.

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"He says he has seen a virus bud out of a cell and actually enter one, too"

So, in general I would have not know better. But from listening to Dr Sam's (and all the others' work), I now understand that these things are so small that you cannot see them under microscopy (and that electron scanning microscopes would not show anything live, penetrating a cell). Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your friend sounds pigheaded, but with Meryl, I'm not sure that's the problem.

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EM technology is not even validated.

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Your old friend is an idiot.

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LOL 😃 He's seen a virus bud out of a cell. Delusional. Not even the most ardent viroliegist would say thats possible. He must be mainlining fluoride. Its not too kind on IQ

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Steve Kirsch, a free preach absolutist, so long as he's doing the preaching that "SARS COV2" is a thing. What an idiot!!

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I followed his substack until he had his lapdog admin ban my comments. Why did he do so?

Because I was commenting that Ron Unz had written several postings about death numbers in Europe and how Steve's numbers didn't add up. He explained that he and Steve had several telephone conversations where Steve said he'd look into it, then nothing happened.

Since Steve fancies himself as the master covid bettor, I asked in comments why he didn't take Ron Unz up on the thing, respond to the assertions, or actually make the bet.

They told me that Ron Unz (a jew) was an anti-Semite and that since I posted something about him I should be banned for antisemitism.

You can't make this stuff up. Did Steve give money for the antisemitism laws they just implemented?

lol

These people are getting noticed.

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Great work calling Kirsch out!! 👍👍Every one is eventually a Nazi, anti-semite, and transphobe when you challenge the gatekeepers.

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Gosh, Meryl. You are telling us that YOU have isolated viruses (50 years ago even), yet you cannot explain for your readers how it is done in front of a contrary thinker where they can quiz you about your words? You can't sit down with someone who is saying that it isn't true or possible while you have so many readers who have the same question as I? Could you ONLY have such a conversation with a like minded person?

Sounds like you are not prepared for the questions. Why would that be? Is it possible you doubt your isolation method actually isolates anything of value?

Please explain (without the weasel wording) why you cannot do so for your readership? You wouldn't be doing it FOR the anti-virus people, you would be proving them wrong. For some reason this frightens you enough that you beggar the idea that you have superior knowledge that cannot be questioned.

Yet, here we are.

I am telling you that your insistence that we "appeal to your authority" while you are using weasel words and articles with dead links as your sourcing is backfiring.

Yet here we are.

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🎯🎯🎯👊

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" I last isolated viruses 50 years ago. "

This is a big claim. Can you substantiate it? I want to know how you identified an alleged bio virus and what you did to isolate it and verify that it is a virus.

Also can you prove existence of any biological weapon besides specifically conditioned humans and animals, e.g., soldiers or combat dogs?

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She writes a lot of stuff that she cannot prove. She probably did the nasty method of "isolation" that ADDS stuff left and right, in order to "isolate". She is simply regurgitating what she was taught without any actual understanding of what she was doing FIFTY years ago.

Its funny, because she is adding these posts to sway opinion about viruses, yet cannot back anything she writes. Its not like I troll her every posting, but when SHE jumps in with her propaganda, I will ask her about it. She calls it "demands". Victimology 101. So, why would she go there so ineffectually and unprepared?

Then she avoids the actual conversation many of us would love to see straighten all of this out in my (our) minds.

Its really sad.

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Please could you send me the paper for the virus you isolated. It would be greatly appreciated

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This is an unwinnable argument. It’s like talking to a three-year old who always asks, “How come?” Whatever answer you give will require yet another layer of proof.

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The first and foundational fraud from the papers cited for SARS COV2 is that no virus has been isolated and demonstrated to be the aetiologial (causal) agent of COVID-19. The ‘proof‘ of SARS COV2 is a postive PCR test result. This sets up a viciously circular discourse from which there is no escape: the premise of existence is established by the lie of a PCR test result, and through its absolute insistence, existence of the virus is conclusively and repeatedly “confirmed”. Virology thrives on this insistence, for without it, there is no virus, no virology, no “positive” PCR “tests”, and no more jobs for viroliEgists inventing viruses for Big Pharma to fight with miraculous “vaccines”.

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https://youtu.be/9OGuWWI5aHE?si=wlshW30RspByJLp8

How do you work on a virus? To see “it” under an electron microscope means, it has been subjected to antibiotics, dies, heavy metals and other toxic substances. It is devoid of any moisture. It has been incased in resin and the sample containing the alleged virus sliced ever so finely.

To work on a “xyz” means to only see that one thing under a microscope. Not possible, the microscope is not powerful enough. Under an electron microscope? How do you modify an organism that is encased in resin? And what? You slice and dice pieces off, and add other pieces on?

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Electron microscopy has never been validated by comparison to reference material.

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Never….not…..

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Yes, it has not been. Thus its effects are assumptions, guesses, made up stories, fairy tales, etc.

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Yes then no, you’re a mor..

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Are you throwing temper tantrums from being emotionally triggered?

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The papers cited employ a key pillar of the COVID-19 fraud: the misapplication of the PCR (modified as RT-PCR, reverse-transcriptase-PCR in order to detect single-stranded RNA because the PCR can only reliably amplify DNA). This misapplication centres on the amplification of RNA sequences taken from human subjects said to belong to SARS-CoV-2 and also a disease termed COVID-19.

However, the PCR cannot confirm either of these things; its capability is solely confined to the amplification of the selected nucleotide sequences, not to determining their provenance or significance. This fraud, then, relies on the attribution of meaning to the amplified sequences, which is supplied by: (a) reference to the imaginary in silico genome and not to a proven physical entity called SARS-CoV-2; and (b) a “disease” that with absurd circular reasoning has been defined by the PCR result itself. SARS-CoV-2 has never been located in a human subject, isolated, purified and subsequently photographed and biochemically characterised as a whole unique structure.

It has not been proven to exist in nature.

With regards to the short nucleotide sequences being detected by the PCR kits in use, they exist but come from somewhere else, not from a virus labelled “SARS-CoV-2”. (If it is done poorly or at high cycle numbers, as has been typical, the target sequence may not even exist in the sample and a “positive” result is simply an artefact of the process.) Furthermore, the PCR cannot diagnose the infectious status of a human in any proven way and no consistent link has ever been found between a disease state and the PCR results. In short, the misapplication of the PCR means that COVID-19 is a scientifically meaningless construct that represents nothing more than a referential illusion.

From the outset, the purpose of this misapplication was to provide the statistical basis for a pandemic based on a disease invented by the WHO for the benefit of elites and selected members of the pharmaceutical industry, not for humankind. As at 3 January 2020, with only “44 case-patients with pneumonia of unknown aetiology”, there was no basis to prime the start button for the pandemic the WHO and the pharmaceutical industry were desperately seeking; Moderna and BioNTech, Pfizer’s partner, for instance, had lost almost $1 billion between them in 2.5 financial years between 2016 and 2019.

However, following publication on the WHO’s website on 13 and 17 January 2020 of non-peer reviewed PCR assay sequences designed by Christian Drosten et al. to detect the purported virus, assays designed, as the authors acknowledged, “without having virus material available”, COVID-19 case number began to grow.

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How is it that Exosomes can be separated in the latest centrifuges and yet the cov19 can’t AND they are the same size AND both get released from most human cells? Some very famous experts have stated that virus=exosome. Exosomes are now recognised as being cell to cell messengers (a bit like an email being sent from an outbox to one or more inboxes). Unfortunately none of the above article addresses this.

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Can you prove existence of exosomes?

So far I have not seen any identification, observation, isolation, experimentation on them.

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Not…..

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Are you emotionally triggered?

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"enough" for you so you don't have to question and learn? This reader would like to see you engage in a conversation with someone like Jessica Hockett and/or Jonathan Engler and/or Nick Hudson and not puff your chest and turn away when asked to question and evaluate everything. I question whether what we call RNA viruses (single stranded) can 'pandemic' in novel and deadly ways around the world with no sign until a date when testing started. There are so many reasons to question the integrity of the data and the sources in your articles. The PCR test created a false scare of a whooping cough outbreak covered by the NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html). Science has been captured for decades as there is so much money and reputation at stake... Much of what you think is true is not. Many who you think are telling the truth aren't. Hiding from those who have valid data that are clearly inconsistent with the version told on a screen is arrogance on your part as exemplified by "enough for me on this."

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I use my name. You use initials. I show my thoughts. You say I'm hiding. I call that projection.

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No matter how you feel about an issue, when someone draws a line in the sand and says no more, it's their boundary. Like it or not it needs to be respected.

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I think that's the definition of closed minded, but I am always open to learning otherwise.

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Maybe so. It is always wise to be the bigger person and let it go. Everyone is exhausted and personally I dont know how she does it. Have a good rest of the night.😊

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You would be interested in Brian Rose's interview of David Martin, when Martin states that he was able to predict, globally, exactly where SARS coronavirus outbreaks would occur if there were to be a Plandemic.

See "Dr. David E Martin - London Real With Brian Rose On A Manufactured Illusion!"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NRm7AN6UK1oK/

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Martin admitted that he never saw any proper evidence of any biological virus.

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Not sure what you are implying by stating that Martin "admitted" he never saw any evidence of any biological virus; but, both Martin and Mikovitz have clearly stated that they believe SARS-Cov-2 does not exist. They do, however, know that synthetic (manmade) SARS coronavirus "spike proteins" do exist.

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Martin was asked by Alec Zeck in interview and by me directly if has any valid evidence of any alleged biological virus. And he admitted that he has not. Mikovitz has been asked about a proof of any virus and she could not provide it. The same with alleged spike protein.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

And do you realize what logical fallacies and cognitive biases you commit?

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Go bother someone else with your questions.

Martin and Mikovits have clearly stated, several times that SARS-Cov-2 does not exist. Why don't you know this?

And, do you think you are the only person in the world who believes there is no proof of any existing "virus".

If you are so knowledgeable, Let's see you write an article and get it published in a peer reviewed journal, proving a synthetic "spike protein" does not exist.

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Do what you preach.

It is irrelevant what they stated. What relevant is what they can prove.

Beliefs are not among my cognitive standards. And I am one of those who has proven to the world in the beginning of 2020 on public social media platforms that such things as bio viruses are not proven by observation or experimentation.

You clearly do not know what you are talking about if you think that articles in journals prove existence of anything just by being published. And that peer review process is irrelevant.

Do you realize that something being published there does not mean that it adheres to the scientific method and that peer review process is not verification if something adheres to the scientific method?

Your logical fallacies are the burden of proof and appeal to authority.

Bring valid arguments next time.

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“If you look at the suppression of effective treatments, the falsely elevated case and death numbers, and the prolonged lockdowns which make little sense--because this is a disease that can be effectively treated, even without remdesivir and vaccines, and which, at this point in time, seems to have mortality similar to influenza (2 in 1,000 cases)--you realize we are being subjected to a wholly different agenda than what is claimed.”

The link to World Homicide Organization indicating that covid-19 has similar mortality to influenza is not working. I think it doesn’t take a doctor with 42 years of clinical experience to figure out why…

At this point Meryl, it doesn’t really matter whether the virus is real or not.

Whatever caused people to develop symptoms that clearly could not be distinguished from influenza and with the same mortality as influenza, and with influenza disappearing at the same time as covid-19 became the only disease in time, all the circumstantial evidence points to one clear conclusion: you have been duped. It’s better to learn it now rather than never…

You are welcome, Meryl!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IFdOSTvvOl9UrTNQyKOv6JZdq1XHriLF/view?usp=share_link

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The idea of gain of function makes no sense to me. All the images we are shown of “Ferin cleavage sites” ect. Are all animated drawings. If the lab in Wuhan is doing it, then all level 4 labs are likely doing it. Show me how this is done. We should have a documentary of some kind?

When I first heard this idea the virus were never shown to exist, I thought it was craziness also.

Now I know what really causes illness and it is not viruses or bacteria. Virology has lots of circumstantial evidence. I can prove Santa exists with circumstantial evidence. Doesn’t make it so.

Look at who has been censured the most. The freedom community members that say there is nothing to be afraid of and here is the how and why? Or the members who are still pushing the fear porn. Spike protein shedding ect. ?

The is no virus, no ferin cleavage site, no spike protein, no spike protein shedding. Yes there is illness and suffering and death. Think toxic(organic and synthetic poisons, venoms, chemicals) overload, mineral deficiencies, imbalances on a physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, electromagnetic levels. There is no one cause to illness. Many pieces to this puzzle.

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There is much evidence that shedding is a reality. Even from the Pfizer data dump that was court order after Pfizer and the FDA requested it be withheld from the public for, what was it, seventy-five years?

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Shedding of what? Skin layers? Hair?

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I'm not quoting here what is stated about shedding in the Pfizer document dump. If you can't find that online, come back to me.

I like Bryan Ardis' explanation of shedding the best: Whenever the human body becomes loaded with too much of a substance, it will attempt to get rid of that substance via shedding, where shedding is the external release of such substance overloads via bodily fluids: sweat, moist breath, nasal discharge, tears, saliva, urine, semen, vaginal fluid, stool, (and anything else I may have missed listing here). There are lots of medical professionals, including physicians, who have written online about having been injured and/or debilitated by other people's shedding.

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Have you verified if what Pfizer document says is correct?

Yes or No?

Is something true because you like it or because it is actually true?

Ardis did not discover anything new. We urinate, we defecate, we ooze matter through pores, we shed dried out skin, we ooze mucus, we cry tears, we exhale gaseous substances, etc. Nothing new under the sun.

You clearly do not pay attention to your body if Ardis had to tell you this. How old are you?

And no, there is no scientific paper (must adhere to the scientific method to be scientific) that proves shedding making other people sick.

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It's obvious you are a troll. The fact that you are denying shedding says it all. Get lost.

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You are an idiot.

Nowhere I deny that we excrete matter in various ways. The thing is that no one has proven that it is contagious.

And no proof of any alleged spike protein.

Also lol at "AS - Life Sciences, BA - Zoology, PhD - Anatomical Sciences, MST - Taxation, GDPA - Public Accounting"

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PCR has its place but even Fraudci said cycle it past 25 an it is meaningless, so they cycled it at 45. That says a lot. I think there was a virus if for no other reason than I too got COVID with its unusual symptoms, but while it may have been hoped it would have killed billions it didn't... no more than the flu (remember the flu vanished in 2020). I said, "Hey you have a virus that stops the flu and cardiovascular disease (which also vanished) give it to everyone." But I said that tongue in cheek.

The jab may have been planned to do clean up on the survivors. So, that had to modulate the roll out lest it become obvious the jab was killing so many. It wasn't till the 3rd batch that they felt comfortable using the most deadly formulas.

There will be no apologies, and while Daszic and Fraudci may be thrown under the bus, the revelations coupled with the riots and economic collapse will bring down the Federal Government. The States will have to pick up the slack, but that is another topic.

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No, PCR is not a valid method because existence of alleged nucleotides has not been proven.

PCR is just a scam tool.

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Only one scam here YOU

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Typical trolling idiot.

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Just let other commentators judge, you’re the troll buddy

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Cognitive dissonance and projection are strong with you.

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NO. REALISTIC. CONTAGION. MODEL. WAS. USED. IN. ANY. ANIMAL. STUDY. THAT. COULD. EVEN. APPROACH. SATISFYING. ANY. LOGICAL. CRITERIA. FOR. DETERMINING. THE. CAUSATIVE. AGENT. OF. "COVID" SYNDROME.

Meaning: Host to host contagion of COVID syndrome (much less it's causative agent) has not been demonstrated by ANY scientific experiment. (Also true for many other "viruses")

It's amazing this has to be pointed out so often. I'll happily break it down on a live or recorded then subsequently published broadcast.

I do respect your work on everything else.

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If you can't isolate it, you can't sequence it. The sequence is generated from multiple unidentified compounds. You're a quack.

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Dr. Nass:

Three simple questions for you:

1) Andrew Kaufman states at https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/my-story/ that he received a BS from M.I.T. in Molecular Biology. You state that he got it in Biology. Is Kaufman lying?

2) Given the following 3 videos (a, b and c), Why do you appear to believe that a PCR test can be used to diagnose that a person has Covid-19?

In the video titled, "FLASHBAK: Dr Kerry Mullis, inventor of PCR tests, Refuted Fauci's Claims and died mysteriously" at

a) https://www.brighteon.com/896ccd11-d928-49f8-9ce9-17148d9c5b80, Greg Reese states that the PCR was not designed to test for a "virus" and includes Kary Mullis explaining why this is.

b) At https://www.brighteon.com/6b8b11b8-e119-4c5f-929d-38d09024b967 in the video titled, "Kary Mullis PCR Inventor Says Test Cannot Say If You Are Sick" starting at time=3:11, Mullis states, "...PCR is separate from that. It's just a process that's used to make a whole lot of something out of something. It doesn't tell you that you're sick and it doesn't tell you that the thing you ended up with, really, was going to hurt you or anything like that..."

c) At https://www.brighteon.com/f78344d1-78cb-4758-811e-11a0feae1ab7 in the 3 videos within the video titled, "KARY MULLIS - Purpose of PCR & Dr. Thomas Cowan explain why PCR is not effective to detect Covid-19", Mullis talks about receiving the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. This is followed by a graphic of how RT-PCR works. And, this is followed by Dr. Thomas Cowan explaining why PCR is not effective to detect Covid-19.

d) I should add here that when Drosten devised the first PCR test in Germany for the WHO, he did not have an isolated SARS-Cov-2 genome, so he used sequences said to be from other common known "viruses" such as coronavirus and influenza and, after sending his test to China to be tested to see if it worked on alleged Covid-19 patients (which it apparently did), he cautioned that the test would not be able to distinguish between these and the alleged SARS-Cov-2. It then took a number of years for the CDC to admit this fact, but the PCR test is still being used, albeit fraudulently, given the above facts.

e) I have not checked the manufacturer boxes that PCR tests are now shipped in, but all of the first PCR tests that were manufactured came in containers which were labeled with a warning that the PCR test could not be used to diagnose Covid-19. This warning, however, was ignored by everyone and the PCR test was used to fraudulently diagnose "cases" of people who allegedly had Covid-19.

3) You note in your post that "...this (Covid-19) is a disease that can be effectively treated, even without remdesivir and vaccines...", which makes me want to ask you whether you realize that Anthony Fauci lied about the safety and effectiveness of remdesivir when he explained why he was directing remdesivir to be the main drug used in every U.S. hospital's Covid-19 treatment protocol. When you know the truth about remdesivir, you will understand that Fauci should be in prison for at least life, if not awaiting execution for the genocide he caused by his directive.

To learn the truth about remdesivir, view the following video when Dr. Bryan Ardis is interviewed by Dr. Reinner Fuellmich:

"Dr. Bryan Ardis, Dr. Reiner Fuellmich & Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg - Depopulation By Any Means!?"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jTiU5Bv5Idge/

Thank you.

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I don't know about others, but It makes me feel very sad..that people can kill others without any feeling. Were all their minds destroyed by these vaxes? These vaxes destroy the Pineal Gland, the Pituitary Gland, the Hypothalamus, the lymphatic system and organs in the body. Are they now simply unfeeling robots?

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