I wasn't at all surprised the U.S. denied bombing the pipeline. What surprised me was that anyone doubted that it was a logical outcome of Biden Administration foreign policy.
There is so much coming at us, from every angle, and on a daily basis, that my head is spinning some days. I'm grateful for those who can make sense of it all.
Now, now Meryl. We're dealing with a much greater act of aggression and "threat to our sovereignty" in the form of dangerous "spy balloons" all the way from Montana to Colombia!
The only reason I have doubt is because everything I read in the mainstream turns out to be another false flag or distraction or blatant psy-op. Are we really at war with Russia? Because the truth is we don't give two shits about Ukraine except that it served as the Deep State's headquarters and from whence it has operated since at least 2014. This "war" is all about that and laundering more US dollars. And what of Russia's role? Are they really still "at war" with Ukraine when this really could have been a fait accompli in one weekend? And from the sea alone--no need for ground troops.
How much of all of this is theatre to set up some sort of attack on the U.S.? Either global/WHO/UN forces are driving the strategy (with the U.S.) to start a war with Russia, or Russia is part of all of it also. Either Russia is part of the one-world govt efforts or this is our excuse to get rid of Russia. Either way, we are setting the stage in a dramatic way for something. And we know they need a real catalyst for energy and food shortages, not just fake bird virus and a few CIA flamethrowers on big chicken farms.
All i know is that they WANT us to know about it or news of it wouldn't appear anywhere.
Seymour Hersh, possibly the finest journalist of the last 60 years, became persona non grata at NYT. Many of us think his journalistic method was exploited and he was fed false information on the Bin Laden story — a possible embarrassment — and it is great to see him restored, as it were. But the demonization of Seymour Hersh is a continuing effort, especially on crucial issues. What could be more crucial than this one? The information war is in fact one of the deadliest of all in these “major wars in multiple theaters.”
I'm thinking an EMP false flag attack is coming so they can close the banks and our access to them while they switch 'US' to an all digital monetary system so that we will be completely under their control whoever "they" are. Keep some cash handy because it will work for awhile when the ATMs and the banks are closed. Get ready for whatever they decide to unleash on 'US'.
Catherine Austin Fitts (The Solari Report) says to use all the cash and checks we can... this will keep money in circulation and off digital lines which will more easily be turned into Central Bank Digital Currency control of the population. Banks are having trouble getting their usual amount cash so get it while you can!
"Of course we did it. was there really ever any doubt?" For some time, I have refused to use the words "we" or "us" in reference to this empire. Instead I refer to"the US government," "the cabal", "the deep state, etc," and I encourage all to dissociate ourselves in this linguistic way from the criminal behavior of the latter.
I totally agree. WE didn't do anything. The WEs I know wouldn't do anything of the sort. THEY, the government, are the problem. They don't represent the WE they're supposed to represent.
US President Joe Biden’s administration on Wednesday blasted Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh for claiming that Washington was behind last year’s sabotage of Russia’s Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, saying reporting by the veteran investigative journalist was “utterly false and complete fiction.” https://www.rt.com/news/571193-white-house-denies-nord-stream-sabotage/
Well, they wouldn't use such strong words if they were lying, would they?
I would caution about using the term "we" when talking about the US government.
As we (the real "we", meaning US citizens) are seeing more and more every day, we are not our government. Sure, it's supposed to be a government of, by and for the people, but we know none of those criteria are being met anymore, for the most part.
We certainly DIDN'T blow up that pipeline - it was a rogue and insane government body that made that decision, NOT we the people.
I thought about this type of language device several years ago while listening to local fans claiming "we" won the Superbowl. These fans were deluded - their local team won the game; the fans who couldn't afford the high price of a ticket themselves watched the game on TV while drinking beer. This is the same incorrect thinking that would lead many of these same fans to claim "we won WWII". Unless those fans were Allied veterans in their late 90's, this was simply untrue.
Sure, I know this seems like a game in semantics, but I would urge people out there, in an effort towards clear thinking, to avoid this usage verbally AND mentally. Give credit where it's due, both to our ancestors who fought in the wars, and to the corrupt elite that commits acts of war without our knowledge or approval. THEY blew up the pipeline -- WE didn't. THEY are taking us inch by inch closer to direct confrontation in yet another European war that will most likely end in the decimation of most species of life on Earth. WE aren't that stupid - WE know how dangerous this game is, and WE care about life. THEY do not, and almost certainly hold the illusion that the rest of us are expendable, that a nuclear holocaust is survivable, that "winning" WWIII is a worthy goal. THEY are insane, mad with power.
I agree. Maybe not even then. We lost a lot of influence after the Federal Reserve took over our economy. The day after my first birthday, they assassinated a sitting president, probably because he thought it might be within his power to end the Vietnam war and the Cold War.
Anyone who was over the age of 5 on November 22, 1963 can tell you exactly where they were that day. I remember that afternoon and the next few days very well...
Well, I was 6 and it was my baptism by fire in regard to media complicity in CIA shenanigans, "official" stories (government lying) and cover-up. No one aged six should be presented with the reality of government investigative committees such as The Warren Commission but it was clear to me even as a first grader what really happened. It was very concerning to me and I felt really cheated finding out to what length the power structure would go to stay on top. Watching the funeral procession was the saddest thing I think I ever saw, with Jacquie in her black Catholic veil and 3-year-old John-John saluting his father's casket as the horses drew it slowly along the street.
It’s so wonderful having a country led by a brain dead pedophile who brags and Gawks like the Grinch who stole Christmas in an unaware fog. Mr. global awareness releasing millions of global warming units into the atmosphere blowing up a lifeline to Germany. This behavior in my opinion deserves impeachment and incarceration for the villains. Our country is being held hostage by the most ignorant maniacal criminals on planet earth. What comes to mind is the Beatles revolution back in the USSR we need to react this BS is mind numbing
“Blowing up a lifeline to Germany”…yet the Germans are still our strong allies and supporters even though our government has done irreparable harm to them that will cause them much suffering. Still bow and kowtow to the U.S. even though they obviously don’t give a **** about them.
The German "Green" party no doubt supports the destruction of the pipeline. Good luck to them. It seems they believe electricity is magically created in their wall sockets.
Especially after it became clear no Red-Adaire will help to limit the damage of sea water flooding the pipes, rendering them corroded and useless forever.
If they would have shoved a plunger (the cleaning-carriages) to the end, as a plug, one could re-use the thing, for whatever. Transportations of medication, communication, even Musk's HyperLoop.
But there's a prior whistle blown I take quite seriously, a P8 deploying cruise missiles able to carry torpedos - or submarine self-navigating bombs, something like slow torpedo.
But it does not matter.
It was the event that wiped out German, thus EU, economy over night.
And it will have consequences. It is THE event that most EU citizens woke up with that they rather do NOT want to do deals with our former friends.
So the WEFians seem to be quite sure if they dare to show their teeth so openly.
Please archive this in safe places, perhaps on paper.
Hersh did not cover the report that the Polish gave permission for some P8 "incognito" submarine hunter to fuel-up in the night before the blow-up for 1,5hrs, after which the plane flew over East Sea and returned home.
Magically, NO other plane was in the whole area of fueling up as well as the path over the East Sea.
I hold this report to be accurate and backed up by many flight tracker hobbyist, so the plane really flew. If it did contain the deadly cargo, not easy to proof if no one wants to look.
But I do not expect we can find remnants of the missile carriers.
Often, when watching the "rescue" team at the beach, I mused to build a matrix of MEMs based ultrasonic transducers, as you can "see" underwater quite detailed with this and a 3D graphics board. You could do pattern matching on distressed movements.
But you could also search the whole East Sea with limited effort for the silent witnesses.
Several details of his report / story do not fit. But well. Now we have three viewpoints to choose our opinion. ;)
- the detonation, if it was planned to be secret and anyone to be blamed, would just have to be ca. 14kg of cutting load, which would have gone unnoticed in the East Sea as nothing special, and destruction would be more severe if using several of them, no one would have the ability to blame anyone specific. Under water, you do not need concrete cover.
But the pattern of the real damage is different. You can listen to the details here:
(inc. the PIG, pipeline inspection gauge for cleaning at 29min.)
- no C4 was used, which is "common stuff" any technician or terr. boy can come by, rather hexo- or octogen.
- the explosion was deliberately made so loud that any seismic station in half the world could hear it, about 500kg TNT equiv. per blast site, just 2 underwater bombs ("ground mines"). It literally rammed the pipeline under ground on a lengths of 50m, ca. 2m deep. The two ends just cut-sheered. Just a "bit" overkill to get the message out.
- the pipeline is forever lost, as the coating (0.1mm) on the inner side for smooth gas flow is not corrosion resistant; now sea water gnaws at it probably a few hundred km long and it is happily rusting.
Coercing people, even a small group of the population, to buy or consume a product, any kind of product even medical ones, which they would not buy or consume if not for the use of the force of the law... is that the only thing that the West produces now?
Are we sure we are exploiting the so called third world countries? Are we sure the oligarchs of certain countries are not exploiting the citizens of the Western countries and blaming their crimes on their victims, including the citizens of those countries?
Biden needs to be impeached for this. I know - Harris? If she knew too, then impeach her. Congress should pass a resolution apologizing to Putin and the world for this illegal act. We need to declare peace on the world, and stop this childishness.
Not that Biden doesn't deserve to be the scapegoat, but the notion that he masterminded this, or even had a lot to do, power-wise, with greenlighting it, seems unlikely.
It was always frankly implausible that the Russians blew the pipelines, not only did they have no reason to do it but if it had been them it would've been all over every Western news outlet for months by now. But I find it unlikely that both Germany and the UK wouldn't be aware of any plan, and the idea that Norway, Sweden and Denmark could act without German knowledge in that area of the Baltic seems pretty unlikely. But did the US do it - or arrange for someone else in the area to do it? Almost certainly
I'd say, "The usual suspects, i.e., Western Billionaires, including but not limited to: Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Gyorgy Schwartz (George Soros to YOU), all the people who will "benefit" from the switch from oil to "electricity," never mind how many electricity generation plants are run by coal and... natural gas. Looks more like Brandon cut off his nose to spite his face, and more apparent that our politicians serve mainly at the pleasure/whims of the Billionaire-owned corporations. Watch "Planet of the Humans," produced by Michael Moore, a few years back. It's free, on YouTube. James Howard Kunstler's article, along with MonkeyWerx's explication of the timeline of The Great Whodunnit, is spot-on, hile most Uhmerukunz sleep right through it all....
Silent weapons for silent wars....so silent no one realises it’s all happening before our eyes, the military Industrial Complex has taken over the Ninjas
i was absolutely floored they denied this prior to Sy’s piece. now it’s simply ridiculous. they look like fools.
They are fools.
I think you misspelled traitors.
I use the term "perpe-traitors."
I wasn't at all surprised the U.S. denied bombing the pipeline. What surprised me was that anyone doubted that it was a logical outcome of Biden Administration foreign policy.
There is so much coming at us, from every angle, and on a daily basis, that my head is spinning some days. I'm grateful for those who can make sense of it all.
Now, now Meryl. We're dealing with a much greater act of aggression and "threat to our sovereignty" in the form of dangerous "spy balloons" all the way from Montana to Colombia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiwgOWo7mDc
The only reason I have doubt is because everything I read in the mainstream turns out to be another false flag or distraction or blatant psy-op. Are we really at war with Russia? Because the truth is we don't give two shits about Ukraine except that it served as the Deep State's headquarters and from whence it has operated since at least 2014. This "war" is all about that and laundering more US dollars. And what of Russia's role? Are they really still "at war" with Ukraine when this really could have been a fait accompli in one weekend? And from the sea alone--no need for ground troops.
How much of all of this is theatre to set up some sort of attack on the U.S.? Either global/WHO/UN forces are driving the strategy (with the U.S.) to start a war with Russia, or Russia is part of all of it also. Either Russia is part of the one-world govt efforts or this is our excuse to get rid of Russia. Either way, we are setting the stage in a dramatic way for something. And we know they need a real catalyst for energy and food shortages, not just fake bird virus and a few CIA flamethrowers on big chicken farms.
All i know is that they WANT us to know about it or news of it wouldn't appear anywhere.
He published it on Substack, not the NYT where he worked 50 + years ago
Ah I see--then I am much more inclined to believe it. Maybe.
Seymour Hersh, possibly the finest journalist of the last 60 years, became persona non grata at NYT. Many of us think his journalistic method was exploited and he was fed false information on the Bin Laden story — a possible embarrassment — and it is great to see him restored, as it were. But the demonization of Seymour Hersh is a continuing effort, especially on crucial issues. What could be more crucial than this one? The information war is in fact one of the deadliest of all in these “major wars in multiple theaters.”
I'm thinking an EMP false flag attack is coming so they can close the banks and our access to them while they switch 'US' to an all digital monetary system so that we will be completely under their control whoever "they" are. Keep some cash handy because it will work for awhile when the ATMs and the banks are closed. Get ready for whatever they decide to unleash on 'US'.
Catherine Austin Fitts (The Solari Report) says to use all the cash and checks we can... this will keep money in circulation and off digital lines which will more easily be turned into Central Bank Digital Currency control of the population. Banks are having trouble getting their usual amount cash so get it while you can!
:(
So, does the CIA need to pay carbon taxes on the environmental catastrophe they created?
Joey 'Ice Cream' Biden and his band of CIA fuckos are global warming.
"Of course we did it. was there really ever any doubt?" For some time, I have refused to use the words "we" or "us" in reference to this empire. Instead I refer to"the US government," "the cabal", "the deep state, etc," and I encourage all to dissociate ourselves in this linguistic way from the criminal behavior of the latter.
I totally agree. WE didn't do anything. The WEs I know wouldn't do anything of the sort. THEY, the government, are the problem. They don't represent the WE they're supposed to represent.
Pray that cooler heads prevail.
The system is delaminating and they need war to distract the public from their DeathJab™ and financial woes.
US President Joe Biden’s administration on Wednesday blasted Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh for claiming that Washington was behind last year’s sabotage of Russia’s Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, saying reporting by the veteran investigative journalist was “utterly false and complete fiction.” https://www.rt.com/news/571193-white-house-denies-nord-stream-sabotage/
Well, they wouldn't use such strong words if they were lying, would they?
Meryl,
I would caution about using the term "we" when talking about the US government.
As we (the real "we", meaning US citizens) are seeing more and more every day, we are not our government. Sure, it's supposed to be a government of, by and for the people, but we know none of those criteria are being met anymore, for the most part.
We certainly DIDN'T blow up that pipeline - it was a rogue and insane government body that made that decision, NOT we the people.
I thought about this type of language device several years ago while listening to local fans claiming "we" won the Superbowl. These fans were deluded - their local team won the game; the fans who couldn't afford the high price of a ticket themselves watched the game on TV while drinking beer. This is the same incorrect thinking that would lead many of these same fans to claim "we won WWII". Unless those fans were Allied veterans in their late 90's, this was simply untrue.
Sure, I know this seems like a game in semantics, but I would urge people out there, in an effort towards clear thinking, to avoid this usage verbally AND mentally. Give credit where it's due, both to our ancestors who fought in the wars, and to the corrupt elite that commits acts of war without our knowledge or approval. THEY blew up the pipeline -- WE didn't. THEY are taking us inch by inch closer to direct confrontation in yet another European war that will most likely end in the decimation of most species of life on Earth. WE aren't that stupid - WE know how dangerous this game is, and WE care about life. THEY do not, and almost certainly hold the illusion that the rest of us are expendable, that a nuclear holocaust is survivable, that "winning" WWIII is a worthy goal. THEY are insane, mad with power.
WE are not.
The United States of America isn't, and hasn't been, "We the People" since before FDR.
I agree. Maybe not even then. We lost a lot of influence after the Federal Reserve took over our economy. The day after my first birthday, they assassinated a sitting president, probably because he thought it might be within his power to end the Vietnam war and the Cold War.
Anyone who was over the age of 5 on November 22, 1963 can tell you exactly where they were that day. I remember that afternoon and the next few days very well...
I wasn't over 5, but I remember the funeral being on TV when there should have been cartoons on. I was one mad little kid.
Well, I was 6 and it was my baptism by fire in regard to media complicity in CIA shenanigans, "official" stories (government lying) and cover-up. No one aged six should be presented with the reality of government investigative committees such as The Warren Commission but it was clear to me even as a first grader what really happened. It was very concerning to me and I felt really cheated finding out to what length the power structure would go to stay on top. Watching the funeral procession was the saddest thing I think I ever saw, with Jacquie in her black Catholic veil and 3-year-old John-John saluting his father's casket as the horses drew it slowly along the street.
It’s so wonderful having a country led by a brain dead pedophile who brags and Gawks like the Grinch who stole Christmas in an unaware fog. Mr. global awareness releasing millions of global warming units into the atmosphere blowing up a lifeline to Germany. This behavior in my opinion deserves impeachment and incarceration for the villains. Our country is being held hostage by the most ignorant maniacal criminals on planet earth. What comes to mind is the Beatles revolution back in the USSR we need to react this BS is mind numbing
“Blowing up a lifeline to Germany”…yet the Germans are still our strong allies and supporters even though our government has done irreparable harm to them that will cause them much suffering. Still bow and kowtow to the U.S. even though they obviously don’t give a **** about them.
The German "Green" party no doubt supports the destruction of the pipeline. Good luck to them. It seems they believe electricity is magically created in their wall sockets.
We in DE had no doubt ;)
Especially after it became clear no Red-Adaire will help to limit the damage of sea water flooding the pipes, rendering them corroded and useless forever.
If they would have shoved a plunger (the cleaning-carriages) to the end, as a plug, one could re-use the thing, for whatever. Transportations of medication, communication, even Musk's HyperLoop.
But there's a prior whistle blown I take quite seriously, a P8 deploying cruise missiles able to carry torpedos - or submarine self-navigating bombs, something like slow torpedo.
But it does not matter.
It was the event that wiped out German, thus EU, economy over night.
And it will have consequences. It is THE event that most EU citizens woke up with that they rather do NOT want to do deals with our former friends.
So the WEFians seem to be quite sure if they dare to show their teeth so openly.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/developing-developments/ His source including flight path:
https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage
Please archive this in safe places, perhaps on paper.
Hersh did not cover the report that the Polish gave permission for some P8 "incognito" submarine hunter to fuel-up in the night before the blow-up for 1,5hrs, after which the plane flew over East Sea and returned home.
Magically, NO other plane was in the whole area of fueling up as well as the path over the East Sea.
I hold this report to be accurate and backed up by many flight tracker hobbyist, so the plane really flew. If it did contain the deadly cargo, not easy to proof if no one wants to look.
But I do not expect we can find remnants of the missile carriers.
Often, when watching the "rescue" team at the beach, I mused to build a matrix of MEMs based ultrasonic transducers, as you can "see" underwater quite detailed with this and a 3D graphics board. You could do pattern matching on distressed movements.
But you could also search the whole East Sea with limited effort for the silent witnesses.
Hirsh reported that a plane dropped a signal buoy that helped with the radio controlled demolition
Several details of his report / story do not fit. But well. Now we have three viewpoints to choose our opinion. ;)
- the detonation, if it was planned to be secret and anyone to be blamed, would just have to be ca. 14kg of cutting load, which would have gone unnoticed in the East Sea as nothing special, and destruction would be more severe if using several of them, no one would have the ability to blame anyone specific. Under water, you do not need concrete cover.
But the pattern of the real damage is different. You can listen to the details here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf_IIf2e0Ek
(inc. the PIG, pipeline inspection gauge for cleaning at 29min.)
- no C4 was used, which is "common stuff" any technician or terr. boy can come by, rather hexo- or octogen.
- the explosion was deliberately made so loud that any seismic station in half the world could hear it, about 500kg TNT equiv. per blast site, just 2 underwater bombs ("ground mines"). It literally rammed the pipeline under ground on a lengths of 50m, ca. 2m deep. The two ends just cut-sheered. Just a "bit" overkill to get the message out.
- the pipeline is forever lost, as the coating (0.1mm) on the inner side for smooth gas flow is not corrosion resistant; now sea water gnaws at it probably a few hundred km long and it is happily rusting.
Great catch! Wish more would avail themselves of your post.
Coercing people, even a small group of the population, to buy or consume a product, any kind of product even medical ones, which they would not buy or consume if not for the use of the force of the law... is that the only thing that the West produces now?
Are we sure we are exploiting the so called third world countries? Are we sure the oligarchs of certain countries are not exploiting the citizens of the Western countries and blaming their crimes on their victims, including the citizens of those countries?
Biden needs to be impeached for this. I know - Harris? If she knew too, then impeach her. Congress should pass a resolution apologizing to Putin and the world for this illegal act. We need to declare peace on the world, and stop this childishness.
Not that Biden doesn't deserve to be the scapegoat, but the notion that he masterminded this, or even had a lot to do, power-wise, with greenlighting it, seems unlikely.
I can't argue with that! Thanks Obama!
It was always frankly implausible that the Russians blew the pipelines, not only did they have no reason to do it but if it had been them it would've been all over every Western news outlet for months by now. But I find it unlikely that both Germany and the UK wouldn't be aware of any plan, and the idea that Norway, Sweden and Denmark could act without German knowledge in that area of the Baltic seems pretty unlikely. But did the US do it - or arrange for someone else in the area to do it? Almost certainly
Hersh says the German PM was apprised.
Who benefits?
I'd say, "The usual suspects, i.e., Western Billionaires, including but not limited to: Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Gyorgy Schwartz (George Soros to YOU), all the people who will "benefit" from the switch from oil to "electricity," never mind how many electricity generation plants are run by coal and... natural gas. Looks more like Brandon cut off his nose to spite his face, and more apparent that our politicians serve mainly at the pleasure/whims of the Billionaire-owned corporations. Watch "Planet of the Humans," produced by Michael Moore, a few years back. It's free, on YouTube. James Howard Kunstler's article, along with MonkeyWerx's explication of the timeline of The Great Whodunnit, is spot-on, hile most Uhmerukunz sleep right through it all....
Silent weapons for silent wars....so silent no one realises it’s all happening before our eyes, the military Industrial Complex has taken over the Ninjas
I didn't need Seymour Hersh to tell my the obvious. Anyone who didn't know it was the U.S. either won't care or still won't believe it.