Why do people think that those who want the killing of Palestinian women and children to stop means they are pro Hamas. Talk about an inaccurate conflation. Most Jews were never in favour of Zionist ideology. Neither are most people in favour of terrorism no matter which side it comes from.
Your both wrong! In war (that they/ citizens voted for & support) IF? you want the war to stop, you kill all the bastards that elect & support it, or die/ get pushed into the sea/ their goal! Then you start on converting all the infidels! I.e. Just like necrotizing cancer!
Your day pass from the opposite place than Heaven is expired. Killing and starving children and denying the wounded medical supplies are war crimes by most humans.
Would you have a link on how many women & chrildern we/ the USA killed in fire bomb raids in Japan & Germany? OR were those different kind of women & chrildern, that don't count?
FDR's gift to the commies at the Yealta sell out, giving all China & half of Europe to the Godless commies cost the lives of 110 million & enslaved billions, & taught us the failures of Godless, Marxist communism! I.e. that our Lib Dems want to try again!
How enlightening to find out WW2 was 80 years ago! Did you learn that in Lib school?
So using your enlightened thinking, what would presedent pimaCanyon do Dec 7 1941 when Japs bombed Pearl Harbor? Using your modern thinking, to solve warfare? Would you bomb & kill Jap & German citizen or wait till Hitler develop A-Bombs & intercontinental missiles? We could all be speaking Deutsch using your modern woke war strategy! Sieg Heil, Sieg Gott!
you compare apples to oranges, I'm going to point that out. Sorry if it offends you, but when you post something that's not logical, some people will point out the logic flaw.
What is sad is you two can't postulate a lucid retort! Why can't you answer my simple question on WW-2 & our bombing? How about the burning of Atlanta GA? Do you two have anything on all the Jews killed, kidnaped & raped by Palestine’s beloved Hamas freedom fighters? Are you two for running all Jews into the sea? Shame on you two! Try answer my questions!
first of all, no one is required to answer your questions. You haven't answered mine, namely why are you comparing what is happening now to what happened 170 years ago? apples to oranges.
I agree with you that Sherman's march to the sea was horrific. They burned houses, they raped women, they salted the land so crops wouldn't grow. Fire bombing of Dresden, ditto, but they weren't on the ground to see the flames and smell the smell of burning human flesh. Fire bombing of Tokyo, ditto. There I've answered your question. Happy now?
Sherman's army was a bunch of hoodlims, criminals. But so is Israel. They have had Gaza surrounded for nearly 20 years, they bombed repeatedly before Oct 7! The people of Gaza had every right to fight back, to do what they did on Oct 7 and worse. What, because people in the past have committed war crimes, it's okay now for your Zionist friends to commit war crimes? Is that your logic? Pathetic!
Yet y’all keeping wetting your pants about the “history” of Gaza. More like hysteria. Side with humus Nass murderers and herbollah butchers will come back to haunt you. If you have any conscience at all!
¨The Nakba (the Catastrophe) dismantled Palestine and Palestinian society 75 years ago through the destruction of 500 villages, the forced exile of half of the Palestinian population, the loss of prominent Palestinian industries, and the eradication of important social and cultural traditions that united Palestinians...¨
Hey, I just moved into a new neighborhood, stole someone's house who lived there--used to live there! Ha! Now I pick fights all the time with my neighbors, let the air out of their tires, set their trash cans on fire, throw rocks thru their windows.
I can't understand why they say I have no right to exist there, why they want me to leave.
King David united the tribes of Israel into a kingdom in 1000 BCE. King Solomon, David's son, built the first Temple of Jerusalem.
The Palestinian National Council proclaimed establishment November 15, 1988. The declaration did not specify the state's borders. Try moving your "move-in" logic into these facts. Mr. prinCanyon.
Funny comment considering that all one has to do is look at the data to see which side has the murderers and butchers. IfAmericansKnew.org has all the data. And are you aware that Hamas and Hezbollah were created specifically because of Israel's continuous slaughter of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians?
Scott Horton, the editorial director of the Antiwar website, has found further evidence that Hamas is an Israeli-controlled terror organization. Horton points to a recent post at the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. The article is locked up behind a paywall. However, it is posted on the Archive.org website.
During Netanyahu’s fraud trial, writes Gidi Wewitz, the prime minister is quoted as declaring,
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy—to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
Trump told Netanyahu he wants Gaza war over by time he enters office — sources -"Republican nominee has repeatedly called for Israel to end war quickly, but ex-Trump aide and Israeli official are first to reveal that the request has a timeline attached".
Not sure what kind of timeline is involved as the article does not specifically say, One month? two months? One year? Two years?? Pretty vague, actually!!
Trump can say anything he wants , but to have an arms embargo would be up to Biden and Congress until Trump takes power in January.
Meryl Nass should stick to medicine! This is another classic example of Meryl Nass’s extraordinary lack of awareness and understanding of ME history and politics. First, this is not Netanyahu’s war on Gaza, this is Netanyahu responding to the barbaric Hamas attack on Israeli civilians October 7, 2023. Second, President Trump was most definitely NOT suggesting an American arms embargo! President Trump was telling Netanyahu to end the war by WINNING decisively and completely as soon as possible!!
You need to do some research to find out the truth. Hamas was CREATED by Israel so they could use it for just this purpose. To start a "war" so that they could genocide the Palestinians and steal their land. PLEASE WAKE UP.
Really? Bibi Netanyahu: Israel Must “Support Bolstering Hamas and Transferring Money to Hamas”
¨Bibi Netanyahu and his ideological ilk represent more of an existential threat to the continued existence of the Israeli state – and possibly the world if it gets dragged into its geopolitical melodrama — than any foreign adversary ever could hope to.
What many casual news consumers might not know, even ones who consider themselves “informed” – in large part because MSNBC/CIA-funded Washington Post would never tell them – is that Hamas is in no small measure a creation of the Israeli state.
This is not to mean “creation of the Israeli state” in the figurative, obscure sense of “Israel forced the birth of Hamas-style militancy through its Apartheid policies in the Gaza Strip,” although that is certainly true.
I literally mean to say the Israeli government actively and directly participated in creating and propping up Hamas in the service of its own political machinations.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s how Netanyahu schemed behind the scenes for years to promote the terrorist group he now publicly decries and postures as the savior from.
Via Haaretz:
“Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.
‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” Read More
You genocide mongers should understand Islam's fake knock-off Christian book that calls for genociding OR converting ALL infidels! The Jews are just first in line, your next!
After 10/7 last year the Holocaust card has been deemed useless. Agent Orange has now given Benjamin Netanyahoo until innauguration day to finish the job of exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.
There has been a lot of arguing back and forth about how many Palestinians have been killed since 10/7. When the IDF has killed the last Palestinianin Gaza, all you Christian assholes can no longer dispute the fact that the most moral army on the planet has successfully committed genocide.
There is a particularly toasty place awaiting you all in the hereafter.
Wah you 5 experts know all Israel on October 7 2023 firing rockets into, Palistine then kidnaping & rapeing inocent peace loving Palistianiens! When you have no God to believe in, you can be made to believe most anything! Right?
¨The Nakba (the Catastrophe) dismantled Palestine and Palestinian society 75 years ago through the destruction of 500 villages, the forced exile of half of the Palestinian population, the loss of prominent Palestinian industries, and the eradication of important social and cultural traditions that united Palestinians...¨
What people repeatedly overlook is that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory. As such, Hamas is legitimate in employing military means to evict the illegal occupiers....
Nobody should be demanding anything end until all hostages are released, including the babies who have now been held for more than a year. Hamas could have ended this a long time ago.
You just don't get it, do you. Who has the upper hand here? Who is the occupying force? Are you saying that all of Europe should just have stopped fighting the occupant during the first half of the 1940s? Thinking like that is nothing short of insane.
Would that be an anti war movement to stop Yemenites from killing more than 150,000 Muslim Yemenites (plus the 200,000 starved to death there) or Muslims in Syria, or are you only focused on Israel because that makes you feel like somebody?
Upside down. It is Israel that has become the prime terrorist state if you pay attention. No significant difference between the Holocaust and the genocide in Gaza by its descendants. Different methods, same outcome. Pure evil.
One of the ways Evangelicalism continues selling support for Israel is by painting this as a Muslim vs Jew situation– but that’s not reality. This is a situation of a violent, secular nation state, who is oppressing a group of people that include Christians.
Palestinians include both Muslims and Christians, and Christians are being just as persecuted as the rest of Palestinians. Israel has targeted Christian schools while Christians in the West remained silent. Christian churches and institutions have a long history of being burned and vandalized by the Israelis. Furthermore, Christians have lamented that the Israelis spit on them as they walk down the street, with many Christians ultimately accepting that being spat on in Israel is part of daily life. (Can you imagine if it were the Muslims doing that? Conservative leaders would be calling for war.)
And this is perhaps the top reason why I no longer support Israel: to do so would be a complete betrayal of my Christian brothers and sisters who suffer under anti-Christian persecution in Israel.
There is a particularly warm and toasty place awaiting your arival. There is even someone there who will poke you with a pitch fork if you should happen to fall asleep.
Did you know that Hamas was really created by the Mossad of Israel for the strategic purpose of preventing the creation of a Palestinian state? Thanks to the Mossad, Israel’s “Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks”, the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat’s Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”. Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), “The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority” in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. “They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad.” The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an “Islamic University” in Gaza. “The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza.” At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks), the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression. In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (“uprising”) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): “God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution”, proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization. Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement. The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians who were already poverty stricken and living in metal sheds, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections. Quite unexpectedly, Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered Sheik Ahmed Yassin to be released from prison (“on humanitarian grounds”) where he was serving a life sentence. Meanwhile, Netanyahu, together with President Bill Clinton, was putting pressure on Arafat to control the Hamas. In fact, Netanyahu knew that he could rely, once more, on the Islamists to sabotage the Oslo accords. Worse still: after having expelled Yassin to Jordan, Prime Minister Netanyahu allowed him to return to Gaza, where he was welcomed triumphantly as a hero in October 1997. Arafat was helpless in the face of these events. Moreover, because he had supported Saddam Hussein during the1991 Gulf war (while the Hamas had cautiously abstained from taking sides), the Gulf states decided to cut off their financing of the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, between February and April 1998, Sheik Ahmad Yassin was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries. The budget of the Hamas was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority. These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities. It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas. And in this regard, Israel has done nothing to curb the inflow of money into the occupied territories. The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are exactly on the same wave length.
Netanyahu: Israel Must “Support Bolstering Hamas and Transferring Money to Hamas”
¨Bibi Netanyahu and his ideological ilk represent more of an existential threat to the continued existence of the Israeli state – and possibly the world if it gets dragged into its geopolitical melodrama — than any foreign adversary ever could hope to.
What many casual news consumers might not know, even ones who consider themselves “informed” – in large part because MSNBC/CIA-funded Washington Post would never tell them – is that Hamas is in no small measure a creation of the Israeli state.
This is not to mean “creation of the Israeli state” in the figurative, obscure sense of “Israel forced the birth of Hamas-style militancy through its Apartheid policies in the Gaza Strip,” although that is certainly true.
I literally mean to say the Israeli government actively and directly participated in creating and propping up Hamas in the service of its own political machinations.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s how Netanyahu schemed behind the scenes for years to promote the terrorist group he now publicly decries and postures as the savior from.
Haaretz:
“Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.
‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” Read More
I repeat: There is a particularly warm and toasty place awaiting your arival. There is even someone there who will poke you with a pitch fork if you should happen to fall asleep.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the US to sign on to any kind of Israel arms embargo--in fact, the US will be the last country to keep sending weapons there, even if the entire rest of the world stops. This would be true regardless of who ended up becoming president. Trump has his pluses and minuses, but one thing about him that is well-known is his total support for Israel. And with the current administration, we need not guess--actions speak louder than words.
What people repeatedly overlook is that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory. As such, Hamas is legitimate in employing military means to evict the illegal occupiers....
Yeah, I stopped listening to commies decades ago. If that were actually the case, they would be screaming about South Vietnam being "occupied" and Hong Kong. Weird how they only care about the countries that aren't commies that occupy lands conquered in wars they didn't start.
Why do people think that those who want the killing of Palestinian women and children to stop means they are pro Hamas. Talk about an inaccurate conflation. Most Jews were never in favour of Zionist ideology. Neither are most people in favour of terrorism no matter which side it comes from.
There is a trick to justifying the commission/embodiment of evil by projecting "evil" onto the intended victims.
Anybody can do it...
;-(
Everybody does it.
Almost everybody...
How refreshing to read that. I sure wish more people realized that's part of how the game is played.
"Blame others for your own sins."
-J. V Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1906/12/x01.htm
Churchill Blames His Victims for Greek Slaughter
-John Hanson, title, 1940
https://www.marxists.org/archive/hansen/1945/01/greece5.html
Your both wrong! In war (that they/ citizens voted for & support) IF? you want the war to stop, you kill all the bastards that elect & support it, or die/ get pushed into the sea/ their goal! Then you start on converting all the infidels! I.e. Just like necrotizing cancer!
Your day pass from the opposite place than Heaven is expired. Killing and starving children and denying the wounded medical supplies are war crimes by most humans.
Tell your friends in hamas land jerk!
What do you know about Hamas, and how do you know it?
do you have a link to an article that reports that Trump told Satanyahu to end the slaughter in Gaza before his inauguration?
I had seen that, too, supposedly at Mar-a-Lago this past summer.
Would you have a link on how many women & chrildern we/ the USA killed in fire bomb raids in Japan & Germany? OR were those different kind of women & chrildern, that don't count?
they count. there's one difference: Germany and Japan were 80 years ago. Gaza is now, and it's ongoing.
Not only that, but both of them were anti-Commie, while FDR and Winnie supported Stalin and Mao. Talk about evil!
MG Smedley Butler was correct!
FDR's gift to the commies at the Yealta sell out, giving all China & half of Europe to the Godless commies cost the lives of 110 million & enslaved billions, & taught us the failures of Godless, Marxist communism! I.e. that our Lib Dems want to try again!
How enlightening to find out WW2 was 80 years ago! Did you learn that in Lib school?
So using your enlightened thinking, what would presedent pimaCanyon do Dec 7 1941 when Japs bombed Pearl Harbor? Using your modern thinking, to solve warfare? Would you bomb & kill Jap & German citizen or wait till Hitler develop A-Bombs & intercontinental missiles? We could all be speaking Deutsch using your modern woke war strategy! Sieg Heil, Sieg Gott!
you compare apples to oranges, I'm going to point that out. Sorry if it offends you, but when you post something that's not logical, some people will point out the logic flaw.
What is sad is you two can't postulate a lucid retort! Why can't you answer my simple question on WW-2 & our bombing? How about the burning of Atlanta GA? Do you two have anything on all the Jews killed, kidnaped & raped by Palestine’s beloved Hamas freedom fighters? Are you two for running all Jews into the sea? Shame on you two! Try answer my questions!
first of all, no one is required to answer your questions. You haven't answered mine, namely why are you comparing what is happening now to what happened 170 years ago? apples to oranges.
I agree with you that Sherman's march to the sea was horrific. They burned houses, they raped women, they salted the land so crops wouldn't grow. Fire bombing of Dresden, ditto, but they weren't on the ground to see the flames and smell the smell of burning human flesh. Fire bombing of Tokyo, ditto. There I've answered your question. Happy now?
Sherman's army was a bunch of hoodlims, criminals. But so is Israel. They have had Gaza surrounded for nearly 20 years, they bombed repeatedly before Oct 7! The people of Gaza had every right to fight back, to do what they did on Oct 7 and worse. What, because people in the past have committed war crimes, it's okay now for your Zionist friends to commit war crimes? Is that your logic? Pathetic!
and regarding the "we", I wasn't alive then, nor were you, I would guess.
Yet y’all keeping wetting your pants about the “history” of Gaza. More like hysteria. Side with humus Nass murderers and herbollah butchers will come back to haunt you. If you have any conscience at all!
¨The Nakba (the Catastrophe) dismantled Palestine and Palestinian society 75 years ago through the destruction of 500 villages, the forced exile of half of the Palestinian population, the loss of prominent Palestinian industries, and the eradication of important social and cultural traditions that united Palestinians...¨
https://www.middleeasteye.net/discover/nakba-palestine-remembering-what-was-lost
Hey, I just moved into a new neighborhood, stole someone's house who lived there--used to live there! Ha! Now I pick fights all the time with my neighbors, let the air out of their tires, set their trash cans on fire, throw rocks thru their windows.
I can't understand why they say I have no right to exist there, why they want me to leave.
King David united the tribes of Israel into a kingdom in 1000 BCE. King Solomon, David's son, built the first Temple of Jerusalem.
The Palestinian National Council proclaimed establishment November 15, 1988. The declaration did not specify the state's borders. Try moving your "move-in" logic into these facts. Mr. prinCanyon.
Funny comment considering that all one has to do is look at the data to see which side has the murderers and butchers. IfAmericansKnew.org has all the data. And are you aware that Hamas and Hezbollah were created specifically because of Israel's continuous slaughter of Palestinian and Lebanese civilians?
Netanyahu Bragged About Zionist Support for Hamas
https://web.archive.org/web/20231014052358/https://kurtnimmo.substack.com/p/netanyahu-bragged-about-zionist-support
Scott Horton, the editorial director of the Antiwar website, has found further evidence that Hamas is an Israeli-controlled terror organization. Horton points to a recent post at the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. The article is locked up behind a paywall. However, it is posted on the Archive.org website.
During Netanyahu’s fraud trial, writes Gidi Wewitz, the prime minister is quoted as declaring,
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy—to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
https://archive.ph/2023.10.10-030658/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-09/ty-article/.premium/another-concept-implodes-israel-cant-be-managed-by-a-criminal-defendant/0000018b-1382-d2fc-a59f-d39b5dbf0000
Here is a link - https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-told-netanyahu-he-wants-gaza-war-over-by-time-he-enters-office-sources/
Trump told Netanyahu he wants Gaza war over by time he enters office — sources -"Republican nominee has repeatedly called for Israel to end war quickly, but ex-Trump aide and Israeli official are first to reveal that the request has a timeline attached".
Not sure what kind of timeline is involved as the article does not specifically say, One month? two months? One year? Two years?? Pretty vague, actually!!
Trump can say anything he wants , but to have an arms embargo would be up to Biden and Congress until Trump takes power in January.
So basically, all this is is conjecture!
thank you!
So many holes to fix. I hope this is one of his first come Jan 20
Meryl Nass should stick to medicine! This is another classic example of Meryl Nass’s extraordinary lack of awareness and understanding of ME history and politics. First, this is not Netanyahu’s war on Gaza, this is Netanyahu responding to the barbaric Hamas attack on Israeli civilians October 7, 2023. Second, President Trump was most definitely NOT suggesting an American arms embargo! President Trump was telling Netanyahu to end the war by WINNING decisively and completely as soon as possible!!
You need to do some research to find out the truth. Hamas was CREATED by Israel so they could use it for just this purpose. To start a "war" so that they could genocide the Palestinians and steal their land. PLEASE WAKE UP.
Genesis 12:3
King James Version
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Trying to appropriate Bible verses to justify an European colonist enterprise does not cut it. Try again.
Up to you my friend
Said the “god” created in the child-killing, virgin-raping image of man.
Repent or hell is that easy
I fear not your “hell” nor your “god”. Both are simply myths created and designed to control the simple minded masses.
Unfortunately I guess you will find out, God will not be mocked, Repent tough guy
Brain dead fungus fool
Really? Bibi Netanyahu: Israel Must “Support Bolstering Hamas and Transferring Money to Hamas”
¨Bibi Netanyahu and his ideological ilk represent more of an existential threat to the continued existence of the Israeli state – and possibly the world if it gets dragged into its geopolitical melodrama — than any foreign adversary ever could hope to.
What many casual news consumers might not know, even ones who consider themselves “informed” – in large part because MSNBC/CIA-funded Washington Post would never tell them – is that Hamas is in no small measure a creation of the Israeli state.
This is not to mean “creation of the Israeli state” in the figurative, obscure sense of “Israel forced the birth of Hamas-style militancy through its Apartheid policies in the Gaza Strip,” although that is certainly true.
I literally mean to say the Israeli government actively and directly participated in creating and propping up Hamas in the service of its own political machinations.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s how Netanyahu schemed behind the scenes for years to promote the terrorist group he now publicly decries and postures as the savior from.
Via Haaretz:
“Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.
‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” Read More
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bibi-netanyahu-2019-israel-must-support-bolstering-hamas-transferring-money-hamas/5836624?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
You genocide mongers should understand Islam's fake knock-off Christian book that calls for genociding OR converting ALL infidels! The Jews are just first in line, your next!
So live with it!
Linda you should stick to Genocide washing somewhere else! Israel's depraved Genocide and ethnic cleansing is worse than any Holocaust!
After 10/7 last year the Holocaust card has been deemed useless. Agent Orange has now given Benjamin Netanyahoo until innauguration day to finish the job of exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza.
There has been a lot of arguing back and forth about how many Palestinians have been killed since 10/7. When the IDF has killed the last Palestinianin Gaza, all you Christian assholes can no longer dispute the fact that the most moral army on the planet has successfully committed genocide.
There is a particularly toasty place awaiting you all in the hereafter.
Wah you 5 experts know all Israel on October 7 2023 firing rockets into, Palistine then kidnaping & rapeing inocent peace loving Palistianiens! When you have no God to believe in, you can be made to believe most anything! Right?
Trump said, "Finish your war. This looks terrible", or something to that effect.
Bibi was as aware of October 7 2023 as FDR was of 12/7/1941, and also helped set it up...
A friend wants to know how many mRNA shots you've had, Sister...
Mossad helped a few Hamas people to get into Israel.
This gives Mossad and the IDF plausible deniability.
Hamas did not have the ultralights that we have seeen that they supposedly used to come into Israel.
Hamas did not have the means to torch 50+ cars making escape imposssible for the concert goers.
Hamas did not give the IDF a several hour stand-down order.
Hamas was not the source of the Hanibal Directive that "justified" the killing of inocent Israeli civilians.
¨The Nakba (the Catastrophe) dismantled Palestine and Palestinian society 75 years ago through the destruction of 500 villages, the forced exile of half of the Palestinian population, the loss of prominent Palestinian industries, and the eradication of important social and cultural traditions that united Palestinians...¨
https://www.middleeasteye.net/discover/nakba-palestine-remembering-what-was-lost
WRONG…please read a history book. One that isn’t censored, preferably ones that have been banned.
Boom 💥 Well put
First cogent response here. Kudos!
Really? Not siding with Israel? That can only be a ploy and a scene in the political circus...
What does it incur to have Trump for "President"?
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-does-a-trump-win-mean
"Not siding with Israel?"
It is written that, "A friend will tell you when you are pissing into the wind."
;-}
(I do like the picture of Hitler feeding the squirrel, too.)
What people repeatedly overlook is that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory. As such, Hamas is legitimate in employing military means to evict the illegal occupiers....
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/10/commission-inquiry-finds-israeli-occupation-unlawful-under-international-law
Yeah sure. Now that the genocide has been completed. What a joke. Trump approved of all of this. So did Harris and Biden. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
Nobody should be demanding anything end until all hostages are released, including the babies who have now been held for more than a year. Hamas could have ended this a long time ago.
You just don't get it, do you. Who has the upper hand here? Who is the occupying force? Are you saying that all of Europe should just have stopped fighting the occupant during the first half of the 1940s? Thinking like that is nothing short of insane.
Occupant. OK. Go watch your CNN and suck down their lies.
This is where the US anti-war movement can now mobilize prior to inauguration to exert just such pressure.
Would that be an anti war movement to stop Yemenites from killing more than 150,000 Muslim Yemenites (plus the 200,000 starved to death there) or Muslims in Syria, or are you only focused on Israel because that makes you feel like somebody?
How about an embargo on Hamas,Houthis, Hezbollah, and all Iran proxies. It's ok for them to bombard Israel with no repercussions. Bless Israel 🇮🇱
Upside down. It is Israel that has become the prime terrorist state if you pay attention. No significant difference between the Holocaust and the genocide in Gaza by its descendants. Different methods, same outcome. Pure evil.
Read bible and you will probably get it. Like I said Bless Israel 🇮🇱
I will not bless the Synagogue of Satan. Neither will our Creator.
Between you and God
Ricardo, with due respect, you have been brainwashed. The Truth is available, if you choose it.
Yes it's called the word of God
"The Brainwashing of Clueless American Christians to Support Israel"
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=196004
No, the Bible doesn’t command Christians to “stand with Israel”
https://israelpalestinenews.org/no-bible-doesnt-command-we-stand-with-israel-christians/
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From an article posted in 2017 --
One of the ways Evangelicalism continues selling support for Israel is by painting this as a Muslim vs Jew situation– but that’s not reality. This is a situation of a violent, secular nation state, who is oppressing a group of people that include Christians.
Palestinians include both Muslims and Christians, and Christians are being just as persecuted as the rest of Palestinians. Israel has targeted Christian schools while Christians in the West remained silent. Christian churches and institutions have a long history of being burned and vandalized by the Israelis. Furthermore, Christians have lamented that the Israelis spit on them as they walk down the street, with many Christians ultimately accepting that being spat on in Israel is part of daily life. (Can you imagine if it were the Muslims doing that? Conservative leaders would be calling for war.)
And this is perhaps the top reason why I no longer support Israel: to do so would be a complete betrayal of my Christian brothers and sisters who suffer under anti-Christian persecution in Israel.
From: https://prepareforchange.net/2017/05/17/5-reasons-im-christian-stopped-supporting-israel/
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Go to sleep 😴
There is a particularly warm and toasty place awaiting your arival. There is even someone there who will poke you with a pitch fork if you should happen to fall asleep.
💥👏
Did you know that Hamas was really created by the Mossad of Israel for the strategic purpose of preventing the creation of a Palestinian state? Thanks to the Mossad, Israel’s “Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks”, the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat’s Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”. Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), “The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority” in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. “They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad.” The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an “Islamic University” in Gaza. “The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza.” At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks), the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression. In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (“uprising”) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): “God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution”, proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization. Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement. The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians who were already poverty stricken and living in metal sheds, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections. Quite unexpectedly, Prime Minister Netanyahu ordered Sheik Ahmed Yassin to be released from prison (“on humanitarian grounds”) where he was serving a life sentence. Meanwhile, Netanyahu, together with President Bill Clinton, was putting pressure on Arafat to control the Hamas. In fact, Netanyahu knew that he could rely, once more, on the Islamists to sabotage the Oslo accords. Worse still: after having expelled Yassin to Jordan, Prime Minister Netanyahu allowed him to return to Gaza, where he was welcomed triumphantly as a hero in October 1997. Arafat was helpless in the face of these events. Moreover, because he had supported Saddam Hussein during the1991 Gulf war (while the Hamas had cautiously abstained from taking sides), the Gulf states decided to cut off their financing of the Palestinian Authority. Meanwhile, between February and April 1998, Sheik Ahmad Yassin was able to raise several hundred million dollars, from those same countries. The budget of the Hamas was said to be greater than that of the Palestinian Authority. These new sources of funding enabled the Islamists to effectively pursue their various charitable activities. It is estimated that one Palestinian out of three is the recipient of financial aid from the Hamas. And in this regard, Israel has done nothing to curb the inflow of money into the occupied territories. The Hamas had built its strength through its various acts of sabotage of the peace process, in a way which was compatible with the interests of the Israeli government. In turn, the latter sought in a number of ways, to prevent the application of the Oslo accords. In other words, Hamas was fulfilling the functions for which it was originally created: to prevent the creation of a Palestinian State. And in this regard, Hamas and Ariel Sharon, see eye to eye; they are exactly on the same wave length.
WOW! So much info it has to be true. Not.
Do your own research Dog: Haaretz
Netanyahu: Israel Must “Support Bolstering Hamas and Transferring Money to Hamas”
¨Bibi Netanyahu and his ideological ilk represent more of an existential threat to the continued existence of the Israeli state – and possibly the world if it gets dragged into its geopolitical melodrama — than any foreign adversary ever could hope to.
What many casual news consumers might not know, even ones who consider themselves “informed” – in large part because MSNBC/CIA-funded Washington Post would never tell them – is that Hamas is in no small measure a creation of the Israeli state.
This is not to mean “creation of the Israeli state” in the figurative, obscure sense of “Israel forced the birth of Hamas-style militancy through its Apartheid policies in the Gaza Strip,” although that is certainly true.
I literally mean to say the Israeli government actively and directly participated in creating and propping up Hamas in the service of its own political machinations.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, here’s how Netanyahu schemed behind the scenes for years to promote the terrorist group he now publicly decries and postures as the savior from.
Haaretz:
“Effectively, Netanyahu’s entire worldview collapsed over the course of a single day. He was convinced that he could make deals with corrupt Arab tyrants while ignoring the cornerstone of the Arab-Jewish conflict, the Palestinians. His life’s work was to turn the ship of state from the course steered by his predecessors, from Yitzhak Rabin to Ehud Olmert, and make the two-state solution impossible. En route to this goal, he found a partner in Hamas.
‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” Read More
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bibi-netanyahu-2019-israel-must-support-bolstering-hamas-transferring-money-hamas/5836624?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles
Genesis 12:3
King James Version
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
I rarely resort to primitive language on the www, but in your case I will make an exception. Fuck you!
Repent heathen
I repeat: There is a particularly warm and toasty place awaiting your arival. There is even someone there who will poke you with a pitch fork if you should happen to fall asleep.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the US to sign on to any kind of Israel arms embargo--in fact, the US will be the last country to keep sending weapons there, even if the entire rest of the world stops. This would be true regardless of who ended up becoming president. Trump has his pluses and minuses, but one thing about him that is well-known is his total support for Israel. And with the current administration, we need not guess--actions speak louder than words.
this would be like telling tony montana to stop dealing cocaine
Watch Colonel (Res.) Joel Piterberg's comment - IDF Helicopter Pilot at 7:15 and other comments. He is comparing Gaza with Warsaw Ghetto in WW2.
Refuseniks and Israeli Soldiers speak out 10:30 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ga0s936ldU
Warsaw Ghetto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto
https://allthatsinteresting.com/warsaw-ghetto
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/warsaw-ghetto-uprising
What people repeatedly overlook is that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian territory. As such, Hamas is legitimate in employing military means to evict the illegal occupiers....
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/10/commission-inquiry-finds-israeli-occupation-unlawful-under-international-law
The lands were conquered from various muslim states who attacked Israel. Your argument is moot.
Not according to the UN
Yeah, I stopped listening to commies decades ago. If that were actually the case, they would be screaming about South Vietnam being "occupied" and Hong Kong. Weird how they only care about the countries that aren't commies that occupy lands conquered in wars they didn't start.
Andrew Korybko has a good morning-after essay:
How America Became Unburdened By What Has Been
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2024/11/how-america-became-unburdened-by-what-has-been/
Everybody wants the genocide in Gaza to stop. Hopefully, the arms embargo could be in place even before Inauguration!