Hope so. Have to keep an eye on that digital “safety net” being erected all around as we speak and read on substack. As much as I approve what Elon is doing right now- I’m not naive enough to think about the secondary gain and corporate conflicts of interest he could easily have. We must not blindly put people on pedestals.
I love his corporate conflicts of interest, if it will get us to explore, colonize & bioform Mars. The greatest achievement in the entirety of human civilization.
Although his support of Trump didn't stop Trump from killing the EV federal subsidy.
It is all about accurate assessment. If Musk were a restaurant he has been serving some really great food. DJT is a visionary, he sees the way forward. Musk shuttered NSAID, that is a million times more important than what you mention...
Shuttering USAID was a great achievement, but colonizing and bioforming Mars is something that will endure for millennia. In 50yrs if you mention USAID, people will say: "What's that, never heard of it, must be ancient history, how boring".
The reason occupants of Earth are always fighting each other is they've been deluded in the belief of "finite resources" & "The Earth is all we got". When mankind must fight the elements of nature to survive, to build, to explore, to have vision and a higher purpose, then we have no time for foolish, destructive wars.
The destruction of human civilization would be the penultimate in genocide, by a millionX. And as a corollary, the potential saving of human civilization by having an alternative, separated branch on Mars would be the penultimate in Altruism.
You know using AI to push a load of Bullshit makes it stink even worse. I got 4 siblings with PHD's. They all got the shot. Your Big words are a symptom, not a cure!
Gibberish and Strawman arguments, and you call yourself Mr. Commonsense.
I never said going to Mars will fix what all that ails us. Never even implied it. Not one iota.
Obvious to anyone but you (Mr. Commonsense) I was simply referring to the great value to humanity to colonize & bioform Mars. Creation rather than Destruction (I'm vehemently against War). Cost would be maybe 1% of budget for major industrialized nations. Far, far less than what we spend on idiot wars that we always lose (badly) and kill millions of people. And now your leaders are trying to start WW3 with Russia. And you gripe about making Mars a Living World.
Does that sound like I believe it will "fix all that ails us". So what's the other 99% of the budget for?
Do you really believe we made it to moon, in that tinfoil contraption they took photo’s of?
And that they operated the camera that managed to zoom in on them as they took off from the moon to return to earth…that was some remote control they had on earth.
You don't have to go to Mars. Millions of people will volunteer. The best and the brightest. A new, dynamic branch of human civilization and progeny of Mother Earth.
Of course we've been to Mars, there are two rovers operating on Mars right now. I think you're talking about the Moon, and yes humans did land on the Moon, that is incontrovertible.
If you want a REAL Mars conspiracy, rather than a fake one, Why is NASA lying about Extant Life on Mars?
We know almost 100% certain that there are living organisms on Mars, right now. The Viking landers themselves virtually proved it, and the excuses NASA came up with to deny that have been debunked. And there is multiple tracks of compelling evidence that confirm that. But NASA, ever since the Viking landers has essentially banned any further direct testing for life on Mars. And even makes sure it doesn't send rovers where there may be extant life. SOMETHING STINKS AT NASA.
Jan Spacek - 25th Annual International Mars Society Convention:
Dr. Gilbert Levin, the only surviving Principal Investigator of the 1976 NASA Viking Lander biology team, presents his startling and overwhelming proof for life on Mars.
Easy, there is likely extant life on Mars, the only other branch of life we know of in the universe, just waiting for us to explore. Quit possible, Earth life was seeded from Mars life, which was a water world before Earth.
And it is the only planet in our solar system that can be readily bioformed and colonized - permanently. A new, dynamic branch of human civilization. And a genesis of Earth life, the greatest since the Cambrian explosion.
If we fail on Earth, Mars will survive and reseed life on Earth. And vice-versa. Increase the probability by a 100X that the light of consciousness will continue to glow for thousands if not millions of years. A treasure that would be the greatest crime ever to let it be extinguished.
Also Mars will make an incredibly valuable base for exploration of the outer planets & moons and asteroid mining. A single asteroid might easily have over a million $trillion worth of minerals. Very easy to launch off of Mars, unlike Earth. The Starship can launch right off of Mars and travel all the way to Earth, no booster needed.
Same here. Not going to happen though; unlike demonrat leaders, Trump will be held accountable by his constituents.
Hope so. Have to keep an eye on that digital “safety net” being erected all around as we speak and read on substack. As much as I approve what Elon is doing right now- I’m not naive enough to think about the secondary gain and corporate conflicts of interest he could easily have. We must not blindly put people on pedestals.
I love his corporate conflicts of interest, if it will get us to explore, colonize & bioform Mars. The greatest achievement in the entirety of human civilization.
Although his support of Trump didn't stop Trump from killing the EV federal subsidy.
It is all about accurate assessment. If Musk were a restaurant he has been serving some really great food. DJT is a visionary, he sees the way forward. Musk shuttered NSAID, that is a million times more important than what you mention...
Shuttering USAID was a great achievement, but colonizing and bioforming Mars is something that will endure for millennia. In 50yrs if you mention USAID, people will say: "What's that, never heard of it, must be ancient history, how boring".
"The greatest achievement in the entirety of human civilization"
will happen when all the occupants of the earth figure out how to do so peacefully!
The reason occupants of Earth are always fighting each other is they've been deluded in the belief of "finite resources" & "The Earth is all we got". When mankind must fight the elements of nature to survive, to build, to explore, to have vision and a higher purpose, then we have no time for foolish, destructive wars.
There is no higher purpose than stopping genocide.
The destruction of human civilization would be the penultimate in genocide, by a millionX. And as a corollary, the potential saving of human civilization by having an alternative, separated branch on Mars would be the penultimate in Altruism.
You know using AI to push a load of Bullshit makes it stink even worse. I got 4 siblings with PHD's. They all got the shot. Your Big words are a symptom, not a cure!
Who said anything about A.I.? And I don't know what basic commonsense has to do with your siblings with PhD's.
I'm saying you respond like a robot. you don't even get subtlety.
Recommending going to mars to fix what ails us, is like doing exploratory brain surgery because you need a haircut!
Basic commonsense? What are you smoking?
Gibberish and Strawman arguments, and you call yourself Mr. Commonsense.
I never said going to Mars will fix what all that ails us. Never even implied it. Not one iota.
Obvious to anyone but you (Mr. Commonsense) I was simply referring to the great value to humanity to colonize & bioform Mars. Creation rather than Destruction (I'm vehemently against War). Cost would be maybe 1% of budget for major industrialized nations. Far, far less than what we spend on idiot wars that we always lose (badly) and kill millions of people. And now your leaders are trying to start WW3 with Russia. And you gripe about making Mars a Living World.
Does that sound like I believe it will "fix all that ails us". So what's the other 99% of the budget for?
What’s the obsession with Mars. I just don’t get it.
Just a virgin territory for us to fight over.
Do you really believe we made it to moon, in that tinfoil contraption they took photo’s of?
And that they operated the camera that managed to zoom in on them as they took off from the moon to return to earth…that was some remote control they had on earth.
I doubt we will be reaching mars ever.
I do not want to go to Mars. I like it here!
You don't have to go to Mars. Millions of people will volunteer. The best and the brightest. A new, dynamic branch of human civilization and progeny of Mother Earth.
Of course we've been to Mars, there are two rovers operating on Mars right now. I think you're talking about the Moon, and yes humans did land on the Moon, that is incontrovertible.
Are you SURE they are on Mars?
That’s what they tell you….just like safe and effective promises.
Absolutely. Zero doubt about it.
If you want a REAL Mars conspiracy, rather than a fake one, Why is NASA lying about Extant Life on Mars?
We know almost 100% certain that there are living organisms on Mars, right now. The Viking landers themselves virtually proved it, and the excuses NASA came up with to deny that have been debunked. And there is multiple tracks of compelling evidence that confirm that. But NASA, ever since the Viking landers has essentially banned any further direct testing for life on Mars. And even makes sure it doesn't send rovers where there may be extant life. SOMETHING STINKS AT NASA.
Jan Spacek - 25th Annual International Mars Society Convention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn7wTKIvYAM
How to Search for Life on Mars. First, stop refusing to look. Robert Zubrin, Steven Benner, Jan Špaček:
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-to-search-for-life-on-mars
Steven Benner - The Case for Extant Life on Mars - 25th Annual International Mars Society Convention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMgIOVXQ_sI
10 Indicators that Mars Might Harbor Life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqf9JloNrts
Will the SpaceX Starship crew find life on Mars? An exclusive interview with Dr. Gilbert Levin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWMdrNpF_nY
Dr. Gilbert Levin, the only surviving Principal Investigator of the 1976 NASA Viking Lander biology team, presents his startling and overwhelming proof for life on Mars.
Lack of territory & resources causes us to fight. Mars and a Mars space base opens up millions of times the resources than we have on Earth.
Are you making my point or arguing against it?
How's about we show some responsible behavior here, before we go fuck up the rest of the universe.
Easy, there is likely extant life on Mars, the only other branch of life we know of in the universe, just waiting for us to explore. Quit possible, Earth life was seeded from Mars life, which was a water world before Earth.
And it is the only planet in our solar system that can be readily bioformed and colonized - permanently. A new, dynamic branch of human civilization. And a genesis of Earth life, the greatest since the Cambrian explosion.
If we fail on Earth, Mars will survive and reseed life on Earth. And vice-versa. Increase the probability by a 100X that the light of consciousness will continue to glow for thousands if not millions of years. A treasure that would be the greatest crime ever to let it be extinguished.
Also Mars will make an incredibly valuable base for exploration of the outer planets & moons and asteroid mining. A single asteroid might easily have over a million $trillion worth of minerals. Very easy to launch off of Mars, unlike Earth. The Starship can launch right off of Mars and travel all the way to Earth, no booster needed.
Yes, got to stay alert for LEFT - RIGHT paradigm from the same monster body…Pass the baton from one relay runner to the next…
Stay vigilant and keep those neurons firing on all cylinders.
Neurons cross synapses. Cars have cylinders... Just saying
every one dances to their own song, and grass is green
Call it creative license - I march to my own beat.
Excellent point.
DJT does not need to be "held accountable" He is the visionary.
Constituents are mostly choir boys.
😂. Not even surprised at the djt hero worship excusing the creature djt from all accountability.
Lets hope so but remember Trump never disowned operation warp speed & now talking AI & OWS II
Give me a break
Poor donny he was misled by fauci. Now he will be misled by the technocrats he surrounds himself with. Simple everyone else’s fault, never donny.
Regarding the left, the tail wags the dog.